MaxInDHouse:
Topic of discussion:

Jesus is Archangel Michael

JWs unanimous response with fine works ~ YES!

The topic already answered the question

Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses?

The OP was mocking JW when he put as claimed
That means the claim was wrong and evil from JW

OP did not say as claimed by the Bible lol

Now holy spirit put the sign under mark to show this is the mark of the children of God

Mark 16:17
run away from the signs Jesus said because you can never have it
JW can never have the sign of God

Jesus is described as The Word of God who became Flesh:

And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth.

JOHN 1:14

If God is Eternal, His Word will be Eternal as well,

If God is Divine, His Word will also be Divine,

If God is to be obeyed, His Word is also worthy of obedience,

If God is Uncreated, His Word is also Uncreated

Therefore, if Jesus is the Word of God, Jesus is Eternal, Divine, Uncreated, Worthy of Obedience and therefore God in Human Form.

DappaD:
You guys must be having sleepless nights, crying and wailing over what another religion chooses to believe which has absolutely nothing to do with you.

To the Witnesses, Jesus occupies the following roles:
1. The firstborn Son of God. Colossians 1:15
2. King of God’s Kingdom. Luke 1:31-33
3. Judge. John 5:22
4. Mediator. Hebrews 9:15
5. Ransomer. 1Timothy 2:6
6. Head of the Christian congregation. Ephesians 1:22
7. High Priest in the manner of Melchizedek. Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 6:20
8. Prophet in the manner of Moses. Deuteronomy 18:15, Acts 3:22
9. Leader of God’s army of angels. Matthew 16:27, Revelation 19:11-15

But to the Witnesses, he is not and will never be the Almighty God Jehovah who sent him to accomplish an assignment on earth. John 6:38
He cannot be the same as the person who told him to sit at his right hand. Psalm 110:1
Jehovah is described as the “living God”.(Jeremiah 10:10) and Jesus “the Son of the living God”. Matthew 16:16
Jehovah is described as the “Most High”(Psalm 83:18) and Jesus the “Son of the Most High”. Luke 1:32

Basically, Witnesses will continue abide by the scriptural truth, we are satisfied with it.

You lack comprehension!

OP challenge JWs but we believe Jesus is Archangel Michael whether you like it or not!

Bishopkingsley:


The topic already answered the question

Is Jesus An Angel As Claimed By Jehovah Witnesses?

The OP was mocking JW when he put as claimed
That means the claim was wrong and evil from JW

OP did not say as claimed by the Bible lol

Now holy spirit put the sign under mark to show this is the mark of the children of God

Mark 16:17
run away from the signs Jesus said because you can never have it
JW can never have the sign of God

MaxInDHouse:
You lack comprehension!

OP challenge JWs but we believe Jesus is Archangel Michael whether you like it or not!

you lack insight and you don't know English
Some one mock you and you can't see it


claim...... Meaning below

Claim means - state or assert that something is the case, typically without providing evidence or proof.

Claim means JW has no proof from the Bible.

That Jesus is Angel Michael lol .

Mark 16:17
run away from the signs Jesus said because you can never have it
JW can never have the sign of God

Michael is working in our midst so instead of arguing fruitlessly on letters why not present the WORKS of your Jesus? James 2:18-26

See the works of Archangel Michael (Jesus Christ) among JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Bishopkingsley:


you lack insight and you don't know English
Some one mock you and you can't see it


claim...... Meaning below

Claim means - state or assert that something is the case, typically without providing evidence or proof.

Claim means JW has no proof from the Bible.

That Jesus is Angel Michael lol .

Mark 16:17
run away from the signs Jesus said because you can never have it
JW can never have the sign of God

MaxInDHouse:
Michael is working in our midst so instead of arguing fruitlessly on letters why not present the WORKS of your Jesus? James 2:18-26

See the works of Archangel Michael (Jesus Christ) among JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

You don't have the works and the marks or sign of Jesus which is in

Mark 16:17

Where is the WORK of your Jesus?

See Archangel Michael in ACTION!

Consider how many JW LIKES of this newly baptized couple that dedicated their llives to JEHOVAH under the captainship of our Master, Lord and King Jesus Christ!
Those LIKES are from JWs who are following this group chat on Facebook!

Oya show us the so called SIGN or MARK nah?

Bishopkingsley:

You don't have the works and the marks or sign of Jesus which is in

Mark 16:17

MaxInDHouse:
Oya show us the so called SIGN or MARK nah?

Mark 16:17

This is the real sign which no JW has..............

Mark 16

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.

This sign no person in Jehovah's Witnesses has that sign in Mark 16:17

STORY! STORY!! STORY!!!
You no fit quote Bible reach my grandson so let's see the WORKS of your Jesus!

Bishopkingsley:


Mark 16:17

This is the real sign which no JW has..............

Mark 16

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.

This sign no person in Jehovah's Witnesses has that sign in Mark 16:17

MaxInDHouse:
STORY! STORY!! STORY!!!
You no fit quote Bible reach my grandson so let's see the WORKS of your Jesus!

John 6:29 ►
New International Version
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

New Living Translation
Jesus told them, “This is the only work God wants from you: Believe in the one he has sent.”


You don't need to do anything once you believe Jesus is God
God will empower you to bring out his works but the work of God is only to believe who Jesus is....

No place in the Bible that God said you should call Jesus Michael lol
But God told you to call Jesus father, God, God with us

EVIDENCE to prove that Jesus is the Archangel Michael!

MaxInDHouse:
Who is Jesus before coming to the earth?
He was the first and foremost creature God singlehandedly made all by Himself so he is called the only begotten Son of God, the archangel, firstborn of all creation and so on.
What other facts can help us to know the true identity of God's only begotten Son?
We will discuss this in the next post!

MaxInDHouse:

According to the first book of the Bible God was not alone during the time of creation He had someone beside Him {Proverbs 8:30 compare to Genesis 1:26} nobody knew who the master craftman working beside God from the beginning not until wise king Solomon was inspired to write how Jehovah began the work of creation! Proverbs 8:22-30
Solomon's inspiration revealed that someone was beside Jehovah all through but this person was God's first creation so in harmony with Solomon's inspiration Apostles Peter and Paul also revealed some sacred secrets regarding the one who was with God in the beginning! John 1:1-2; Colossians 1:15-16
In the Bible only spirit creatures live with God in heaven and this creatures are known as angels meaning (messengers) so if we think deeply over the first few sentences that began the Bible we will grasp the correlation between the one giving orders to another person acting on the orders! Genesis 1:3-26
Jehovah has many spirit sons (angels) in the spirit realms (heaven) {Job 38:7} but He only revealed the name of two angels in His word (Bible) they are Michael and Gabriel {Daniel 8:11; 9:21 & 12:1} this two are the only angels whose names were mentioned.
According to God's word Michael is the one and only angel who always stand to support faithful servants of God. And if we carefully meditate on what Solomon penned down @ Proverbs 8:30-31 there revealed why Michael is always doing so:

Then I was by (God), as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men! KJV

From the above statement we can see why Michael feel so much for faithful servants of His heavenly Father. So if someone should as you "who was the fourth man standing in the fairy furnace with Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego?" {Daniel 3:24-25} surely that was Michael and you can discern why he's always doing that! Proverbs 8:30-31

There are so many cases where Michael often comes in in support of God's faithful servants for instance: he was the angel who led the Israelites to safety {Exodus 14:19} if you read what God's word said before then you will see that this angel was actually representing God in action! Exodus 13:21

So when it's time to send someone who will come and deliver humans from Adamic sin, all the angels in heaven were silent but Michael stood up before all of them and said "here i am, send me" {Isaiah 6:8} this may seem like something happening on earth since it's a prophet of God that wrote it and he also delivered God's message before the Israelites.
But it was much later when Jesus of Nazareth confirmed that Isaiah was actually saying what was happening in heaven when he (Jesus) stood up for the salvation of mankind! Luke 4:16-21
Could this mean that Jesus is the same Archangel Michael?
Let's continue in the next post!

MaxInDHouse:
Well what did Jesus have to say about himself?

He said repeatedly that he was SENT by his father {Matthew 15:24; John 3:16; 4:34} so according to Jesus' own words he is God's messenger who came down from heaven just like the angels. John 8:23


Unlike Gabriel, Michael was so compassionate when dealing with God's faithful servants. Take for instance. When God wanted to inform Zachariah (John's father) that he's going to have a son in his oldage with his old wife (Elizabeth) God sent Gabriel. After delivering God's message to the Highpriest of Israel that faithful day the old man doubted Gabriel, did you know what happened next? Gabriel got provoked and smote Zachariah with dumbness! Luke 1:8-20

Please don't take offense with Gabriel. He got provoked because of some sound reasons. Zachariah was serving as the Highpriest that year so he was standing in the most holy place on planet earth at that time. This most holy or holy of holies is a room inside Jerusalem's Temple. Only the Highpriest of Israel do enter this room and he only does once a year. Before entering he must have made sacrifices otherwise the angel guarding the Ark of God will kill him. So there's no way a man could be there with Zachariah. Secondly Zachariah supposed to be the first and foremost human who should teach others about the sanctify of the most holy. So there's no reason why he should doubt the man standing before him in the most holy place on planet earth!

So Gabriel's action is justified but do you think Michael could have done the same?
There has been several cases where God's people and servants does stupid things yet Michael always have compassion for them all because humans are his choicest of all God's creation not to talk of imperfect and sinful descendants of Adam who are trying to live a godly life. Now you should know why Michael (Jesus) is always considerate when dealing with humans.

Twice Michael (Jesus) cursed living creatures!
He cursed a tree and it withered, he also allowed demons to go after 2,000 pigs so that they drown in the sea. Note that Jesus cursed that tree because this tree didn't produce the fruit yet looked as if it's producing {Matthew 21:19-20} but when humans insulted him he never cursed them {Luke 9:51-56} and do you still remember why he allowed demons to destroy 2,000 living creatures? Well Michael (Jesus) did so just to save one single human! Mark 5:2-13

Of course there are still much to learn about Michael (Jesus) and his relationship with his heavenly father because their closeness has been so cordial that he could say "whoever has seen me has also seen my father" John 14:8-9

What is Michael (Jesus) doing presently and what will he do in the future?

Well discuss that later!
Good evening!

DappaD:


Concocted teachings have no hold on us anyways, so better look for where to channel your energy to.

When the above is applied to the organization you belong the person is termed MENTALLY DISEASED, INSANE, apostates

livingchrist:
the teachings of op is purely true, you have nothing against one's teaching but just to appear still faithful Jehovah witness you decided to slander. who are the 'us' because there are many Jehovah witnesses looking for the truth, of cause they will not voice it out for fear.

I decide to channel my energe for God's kingdom.

The us are himself and those who count themselves as steadfast in their own eyes. They definitely don't include members within their group of whom Max and Dap see as HYPOCRITE and both look such ones with suspicion

Bishopkingsley:
lol

Mark 16:17

run away from the signs Jesus said because you can never have it

JW can never have the sign of God

After calling the Op to reset his brain, he remembers his own brain need to return back to the topic of discussion

DappaD:
You guys must be having sleepless nights, crying and wailing over what another religion chooses to believe which has absolutely nothing to do with you.

To the Witnesses, Jesus occupies the following roles:
1. The firstborn Son of God. Colossians 1:15
2. King of God’s Kingdom. Luke 1:31-33
3. Judge. John 5:22
4. Mediator. Hebrews 9:15
5. Ransomer. 1Timothy 2:6
6. Head of the Christian congregation. Ephesians 1:22
7. High Priest in the manner of Melchizedek. Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 6:20
8. Prophet in the manner of Moses. Deuteronomy 18:15, Acts 3:22
9. Leader of God’s army of angels. Matthew 16:27, Revelation 19:11-15

But to the Witnesses, he is not and will never be the Almighty God Jehovah who sent him to accomplish an assignment on earth. John 6:38
He cannot be the same as the person who told him to sit at his right hand. Psalm 110:1
Jehovah is described as the “living God”.(Jeremiah 10:10) and Jesus “the Son of the living God”. Matthew 16:16
Jehovah is described as the “Most High”(Psalm 83:18) and Jesus the “Son of the Most High”. Luke 1:32

Basically, Witnesses will continue abide by the scriptural truth, we are satisfied with it.

You have not really proven that Jesus is Michael.

Christianity is not a new revelation. It is a continuation of Paganism by another name. The gospel story of Jesus is not a biography. It is a Jewish reworking of ancient Pagan myths of the dying and resurrecting Godman Osiris-Dionysus, which had been popular for centuries throughout the ancient Mediterranean.
The stories told about Osiris-Dionysus will sound familiar. He is the Son of God who is born to a virgin on the 25th of December before three shepherds. He is a prophet who offers his followers the chance to be born again through the rites of baptism. He is a wonderworker who raises the dead and miraculously turns water into wine at a marriage ceremony. He is God incarnate who dies at Easter, sometimes through crucifixion, but who resurrects on the third day. He is a savior who offers his followers redemption through partaking in a meal of bread and wine, symbolic of his body and blood. The Jesus story is a synthesis of the Jewish belief of the Messiah with Pagan myths of the dying and resurrecting Godman.
The conquests of Alexander the Great had turned the Mediterranean world into one culture with a common language. This created an age of eclecticism, much like our own, in which different spiritual traditions met and synthesized. Jewish mystics of this period, such as Philo Judeas, were obsessed with synthesizing Jewish and Pagan mythology.
At the time, both Pagans and Christians were well aware that the Jesus story was a myth. The early Christians, known as Gnostics, understood the Jesus story as allegory, not history, and even called Jesus by the names of the Pagan Godman. The Gnostics were brutally eradicated by the Roman Church in the 4th and 5th centuries.
The Gnostics had synthesized Jewish and Pagan mythology to produce the Jesus story and many other extraordinary Christian myths largely unknown today. The Roman Church was a later deviation, which misunderstood the Jesus story as history. It was, as the Gnostics said at the time, an imitation Church teaching a superficial Christianity designed for the masses.

Roman Christianity, and all its subsequent offshoots, is based on the idea that if you believe in the existence of an historical Jesus you will go to heaven when you die. The historical figure of Jesus has been so central to Western culture that it is hard to question his existence. As soon as we hear his name we can see him in our mind's eye, in his flowing white robes, with long hair and a beard. Yet this picture of Jesus was not created until the 8th century.

The fact is that everything we think we know about Jesus, like this romantic picture of the bearded savior, is a creation of the human imagination. Actually there is barely a shred of evidence for the existence of an historical Jesus and this dissolves on closer inspection. Paul, the earliest Christian source, shows no knowledge of an historical man, only a mystical Christ. The gospels have been thoroughly discredited as eyewitness reports. Other bits of traditional evidence, such as references to Jesus by the Jewish historian Josephus, have been shown to be later forgeries. If solid evidence had existed, there would have been no need to have created such fabrications.

Perhaps within a generation people will look back at the beginning of the 21st century and be amazed that a culture with the technology to travel to the moon could see the fabulous story of Jesus as anything other than a myth. It is truly the greatest lie ever told, because it has been thousands of years in the making.

MaxInDHouse:


They're the ones making a fool of themselves!

Unlike JWs misinformed Churchgoers are:
Neither diligent nor studious.
Not doing God's work wholeheartedly.
Not ready to obey.
Divided in their doctrines.
Don't have LOVE among themselves.

So they're seeing only JWs very high as if on the top of the highest mountain! Matthew 5:13-16 compare to Isaiah 2:2

No wonder anytime they gather to discuss about their troubles the only topic that unite them is "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"!

All we demand from the studious is clear proof not conjectures.
I once contributed on similar topic


The making of archangel Michael Jesus to me doesn't have clear biblical inferences like that. Before the mention of the name Michael as related to an angel, people had been bearing Michael, NUM 13: 13; IChr. 5:14,. Ezra 8: 8 among others. The name means, ' who is like God?. It doesn't sound as ' one like God as JWs and SDA posited.
Anyways, I am still doing research. I am not convinced.[qouted/]

1. Another one, Jesus is the Messager of the Covenant, what is the Message of the Covenant?
2. What covenant?
3. Another, How did He carry out the message?

4. Does ,' Who is like God?, translate to, ' One like God or God's incarnate?

Do anyone need to defend anything here?

I don't think so!

Just hold tight to whatever your Papa taught you while i hold on what my GB taught me.

If there's anything i'll like to discuss now it's

WHY are your Churches having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines?

And why are you not mentioning the name of your numerous different Churches yet you're all quick to come against JWs who only have a different beleive just the way all of you do?

So whatever JWs believe is of no importance now since all your various Churches also have different beliefs!

MightySparrow:



All we demand from studious is clear proof not conjectures.
I once contributed on similar topic


The making of archangel Michael Jesus to me doesn't have clear biblical inferences like that. Before the mention of the name Michael as related to an angel, people had been bearing Michael, NUM 13: 13; IChr. 5:14,. Ezra 8: 8 among others. The name means, ' who is like God?. It doesn't sound as ' one like God as JWs and SDA posited.
Anyways, I am still doing research. I am not convinced.[qouted/]

1. Another one, Jesus is the Messager of the Covenant, what is the Message of the Covenant?
2. What covenant?
3. Another, How did He carry out the message?

4. Does ,' Who is like God?, translate to, ' One like God or God's incarnate?

MaxInDHouse:


Keep lying to your own soul!

So you're saying they will not open up even on FACELESS social media like Nairaland, shey?

Why are you people so stupid?

All of you are hiding your Churches because you know nobody can see your faces, then you now wish JWs are like you but they can't hide behind some faceless social media to air their personal opinion, shey?

Your brains needs a reset!

I can see your frustrations, you are pained because some Jehovah witnesses may read this post and begin to question your organisation let me tell you that yes many people will leave that darkness called Jehovah witness organisation as their eyes will be opened to the truth, your hate and insults cannot stop it.

MaxInDHouse:
UNITY is just one out of the EVIDENCES JWs are presenting to the world!

Oya PRESENT just one EVIDENCE of your God that's in line with scriptural prophecies about Christians!

you mean the unity that is founded on threat of disfellowship, the hold Jehovah witness has on her members is fear and lies including showing hatred for christianity in their heart.
I see how your magazine promote raw hate against Christians.

Paul did not preach group, Jesus did not preach group neither did any other apostles they presented the truth of God's word.

achorladey:


The us are himself and those who count themselves as steadfast in their own eyes. They definitely don't include members within their group of whom Max and Dap see as HYPOCRITE and both look such ones with suspicion

I tell you, they only try to appear as stead fast they dont know they are deceiving themselves. Those Jehovah witness who are sincere and seeking for God quietly read and take note. That is why I believe that there many Jehovah witnesses out there who are honest that is why op wrote this post. Max and the rest are here trying to poison the well for others.

livingchrist:

I can see your frustrations, you are pained because some Jehovah witnesses may read this post and begin to question your organisation let me tell you that yes many people will leave that darkness called Jehovah witness organisation as their eyes will be opened to the truth, your hate and insults cannot stop it.

Do you think that's my problem?
When majority of the disciples left Jesus does it changes the truth that only one straight path leads to Paradise? John 6:66-68

Sorry you don't know that each person is responsible for building his own FAITH {Matthew 7:24-27; Galatians 6:5} in the truth, we're not just blown about by the wind! Isaiah 57:20

Meanwhile what is the name of your own Church since you called out another Church?

livingchrist:
you mean the unity that is founded on threat of disfellowship, the hold Jehovah witness has on her members is fear and lies including showing hatred for christianity in their heart.
I see how your magazine promote raw hate against Christians.

Paul did not preach group, Jesus did not preach group neither did any other apostles they presented the truth of God's word.

They did not PREACH group yet Jesus publicly said his own mother and brothers are not his real families for not believing the same thing as he does! Matthew 12:46-49

Go and PREACH your confusion to yourself!

livingchrist:
I tell you, they only try to appear as stead fast they dont know they are deceiving themselves. Those Jehovah witness who are sincere and seeking for God quietly read and take note. That is why I believe that there many Jehovah witnesses out there who are honest that is why op wrote this post. Max and the rest are here trying to poison the well for others.

Your stupidity is on the highest level!

You called out a group out of over 42,000 groups claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.
You hypocritically hid your own religion claiming you're a Christian when everyone knows that there are one thousand and one difference in the way churches worship and their beliefs!

Now you're saying members of the religion you singled out of ten of thousands shouldn't come to expose your unquestionable stupidity.

Why not present what you believe and see how many people will pick interest in your nonsense and ingredients?

If you want to commit suicide better go and hang yourself now, because JWs are the one and only mountain that has been raised high above all other hills like your church that you're ashamed to mention {Micah 4:1-3 compare with Matthew 5:14-16} that's why all of you are converging with wicked intentions over our matter! Matthew 5:11-12

MaxInDHouse:
Do anyone need to defend anything here?

I don't think so!

Just hold tight to whatever your Papa taught you while i hold on what my GB taught me.

If there's anything i'll like to discuss now it's

WHY are your Churches having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines?

And why are you not mentioning the name of your numerous different Churches yet you're all quick to come against JWs who only have a different beleive just the way all of you do?

So whatever JWs believe is of no importance now since all your various Churches also have different beliefs!

Are you afraid to teach those of us church goers or have nothing to defend?

MaxInDHouse:


Do you think that's my problem?
When majority of the disciples left Jesus does it changes the truth that only one straight path leads to Paradise? John 6:66-68

Sorry you don't know that each person is responsible for building his own FAITH {Matthew 7:24-27; Galatians 6:5} in the truth, we're not just blown about by the wind! Isaiah 57:20

Meanwhile what is the name of your own Church since you called out another Church?

The name of my church is irrelevant since I dont present my church as the way to salvation, my church is not a religion unlike JWO that termed herself as the only true religion and way to heaven.

MaxInDHouse:


They did not PREACH group yet Jesus publicly said his own mother and brothers are not his real families for not believing the same thing as he does! Matthew 12:46-49

Go and PREACH your confusion to yourself!

[b] Jesus said anyone that does his father's will are his brethren,

Matthew 12:50
For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

He didnt preach group confused max

MaxInDHouse:


Your stupidity is on the highest level!

You called out a group out of over 42,000 groups claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.
You hypocritically hid your own religion claiming you're a Christian when everyone knows that there are one thousand and one difference in the way churches worship and their beliefs!

Now you're saying members of the religion you singled out of ten of thousands shouldn't come to expose your unquestionable stupidity.

Why not present what you believe and see how many people will pick interest in your nonsense and ingredients?

If you want to commit suicide better go and hang yourself now, because JWs are the one and only mountain that has been raised high above all other hills like your church that you're ashamed to mention {Micah 4:1-3 compare with Matthew 5:14-16} that's why all of you are converging with wicked intentions over our matter! Matthew 5:11-12

hiding behind emojis to thrown tantrums and insults, your bitterness means nothing. I guess if you see me now you may decide to pull the trigger.

MightySparrow:

Are you afraid to teach those of us church goers or have nothing to defend?

My own personal findings about Jesus the Archangel Michael!

MaxInDHouse:
Who is Jesus before coming to the earth?
He was the first and foremost creature God singlehandedly made all by Himself so he is called the only begotten Son of God, the archangel, firstborn of all creation and so on.
What other facts can help us to know the true identity of God's only begotten Son?
We will discuss this in the next post!

MaxInDHouse:

According to the first book of the Bible God was not alone during the time of creation He had someone beside Him {Proverbs 8:30 compare to Genesis 1:26} nobody knew who the master craftman working beside God from the beginning not until wise king Solomon was inspired to write how Jehovah began the work of creation! Proverbs 8:22-30
Solomon's inspiration revealed that someone was beside Jehovah all through but this person was God's first creation so in harmony with Solomon's inspiration Apostles Peter and Paul also revealed some sacred secrets regarding the one who was with God in the beginning! John 1:1-2; Colossians 1:15-16
In the Bible only spirit creatures live with God in heaven and this creatures are known as angels meaning (messengers) so if we think deeply over the first few sentences that began the Bible we will grasp the correlation between the one giving orders to another person acting on the orders! Genesis 1:3-26
Jehovah has many spirit sons (angels) in the spirit realms (heaven) {Job 38:7} but He only revealed the name of two angels in His word (Bible) they are Michael and Gabriel {Daniel 8:11; 9:21 & 12:1} this two are the only angels whose names were mentioned.
According to God's word Michael is the one and only angel who always stand to support faithful servants of God. And if we carefully meditate on what Solomon penned down @ Proverbs 8:30-31 there revealed why Michael is always doing so:

Then I was by (God), as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men! KJV

From the above statement we can see why Michael feel so much for faithful servants of His heavenly Father. So if someone should as you "who was the fourth man standing in the fairy furnace with Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego?" {Daniel 3:24-25} surely that was Michael and you can discern why he's always doing that! Proverbs 8:30-31

There are so many cases where Michael often comes in in support of God's faithful servants for instance: he was the angel who led the Israelites to safety {Exodus 14:19} if you read what God's word said before then you will see that this angel was actually representing God in action! Exodus 13:21

So when it's time to send someone who will come and deliver humans from Adamic sin, all the angels in heaven were silent but Michael stood up before all of them and said "here i am, send me" {Isaiah 6:8} this may seem like something happening on earth since it's a prophet of God that wrote it and he also delivered God's message before the Israelites.
But it was much later when Jesus of Nazareth confirmed that Isaiah was actually saying what was happening in heaven when he (Jesus) stood up for the salvation of mankind! Luke 4:16-21
Could this mean that Jesus is the same Archangel Michael?
Let's continue in the next post!

MaxInDHouse:
Well what did Jesus have to say about himself?

He said repeatedly that he was SENT by his father {Matthew 15:24; John 3:16; 4:34} so according to Jesus' own words he is God's messenger who came down from heaven just like the angels. John 8:23


Unlike Gabriel, Michael was so compassionate when dealing with God's faithful servants. Take for instance. When God wanted to inform Zachariah (John's father) that he's going to have a son in his oldage with his old wife (Elizabeth) God sent Gabriel. After delivering God's message to the Highpriest of Israel that faithful day the old man doubted Gabriel, did you know what happened next? Gabriel got provoked and smote Zachariah with dumbness! Luke 1:8-20

Please don't take offense with Gabriel. He got provoked because of some sound reasons. Zachariah was serving as the Highpriest that year so he was standing in the most holy place on planet earth at that time. This most holy or holy of holies is a room inside Jerusalem's Temple. Only the Highpriest of Israel do enter this room and he only does once a year. Before entering he must have made sacrifices otherwise the angel guarding the Ark of God will kill him. So there's no way a man could be there with Zachariah. Secondly Zachariah supposed to be the first and foremost human who should teach others about the sanctify of the most holy. So there's no reason why he should doubt the man standing before him in the most holy place on planet earth!

So Gabriel's action is justified but do you think Michael could have done the same?
There has been several cases where God's people and servants does stupid things yet Michael always have compassion for them all because humans are his choicest of all God's creation not to talk of imperfect and sinful descendants of Adam who are trying to live a godly life. Now you should know why Michael (Jesus) is always considerate when dealing with humans.

Twice Michael (Jesus) cursed living creatures!
He cursed a tree and it withered, he also allowed demons to go after 2,000 pigs so that they drown in the sea. Note that Jesus cursed that tree because this tree didn't produce the fruit yet looked as if it's producing {Matthew 21:19-20} but when humans insulted him he never cursed them {Luke 9:51-56} and do you still remember why he allowed demons to destroy 2,000 living creatures? Well Michael (Jesus) did so just to save one single human! Mark 5:2-13

Of course there are still much to learn about Michael (Jesus) and his relationship with his heavenly father because their closeness has been so cordial that he could say "whoever has seen me has also seen my father" John 14:8-9

What is Michael (Jesus) doing presently and what will he do in the future?

Well discuss that later!
Good evening!

livingchrist:
The name of my church is irrelevant since I dont present my church as the way to salvation, my church is not a religion unlike JWO that termed herself as the only true religion and way to heaven.

OK the highlighted is your problem, shey?

Go and sue Jesus! John 14:6

livingchrist:
Jesus said anyone that does his father's will are his brethren,
Matthew 12:50
For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
He didnt preach group confused max

So all the over 42,000 different sects claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines are all doing that will, shey?

Keep deceiving yourself!