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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by STENON(f): 7:14pm On Aug 03, 2021
Lexusgs430:

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To ensure she got some ties to Nigeria (working and earning well).........

Once your sister is above 18 years old, you really have no control over her ..........

If the visa is granted and she decides not to return, you guys cannot force her ..... You gerrit .......
Yes sir. Thanks
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by STENON(f): 7:14pm On Aug 03, 2021
EngrSaks:
Yeah if her circumstances change to that of a student then she can apply with details that will favour a student application


thanks Engr. We have applied for a January admission for her . Na money be the koko now angry
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by STENON(f): 7:18pm On Aug 03, 2021
omopapa:
This (bolded) is a faster but expensive route because it will take another 6-9months to tidy her finances and to “present” a tie to Nigeria

thanks omo papa. Yes, I thought of students route but too expensive to afford at once..I was thinking the few months childcare savings from her visitation would be helpful for paying tuition fees, but the ECO got my code undecided

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by EngrSaks(m): 7:20pm On Aug 03, 2021
Na the way o. Hahahahaha


Lexusgs430:



Shame on you........ cool

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by EngrSaks(m): 7:23pm On Aug 03, 2021
Cool, she shouldnt hide the fact that she got denied for a visit visa in the student visa application...as these circumstances are different so them no go fit use that regae spoil this blues..as long as there is proof of funds and admission she go get am


STENON:
thanks Engr. We have applied for a January admission for her . Na money be the koko now angry
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by STENON(f): 7:31pm On Aug 03, 2021
EngrSaks:
Cool, she shouldnt hide the fact that she got denied for a visit visa in the student visa application...as these circumstances are different so them no go fit use that regae spoil this blues..as long as there is proof of funds and admission she go get am


thank you bro. I will try my best for her again, please if you know people charging 2-4% for bank statement, or giving student loan, I don't mind lipsrsealed
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by dustydee: 7:34pm On Aug 03, 2021
EngrSaks:
Guys please think through before rushing to buy a new built house with help to buy o, it's not bad but buying an old house is alot better...

I know 2 people that bought houses roughly the same time...one bought with help to buy and the other bought with the normal old house deposit

The one that got the old house has remortgage, placed the house on rent and have gotten another house...while the one with help to buy has their liability to the govt increased


Even if it means waiting a year extra to gather the old house deposit, gather it, and then upgrade the house small small...in a few years you can remortgage, change the use and get a new house (with the increase in value)

Stay woke!
Please can you elaborate more on the limitations and drawbacks of Help to buy?
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by LagosismyHome(f): 8:04pm On Aug 03, 2021
STENON:
Goodafternoon. I applied for my younger sister for 6 months visiting visa but she was refused. She is a graduate, worked with a private hospital in Nigeria for 1 year prior to January 2021. She left her job, moved to stay with my Parents as Home Care Assistant because they are old and now wanted to visit for holiday. I and My husband are sponsoring her trip but I was disappointed based on the reason for refusing her visa. Why are they interested in her bank details ??

Visiting visa is always harder because the visa officer needs to be convinced you will come back home.... with your sister profile it most likely they would reject her

Don't bother applying for visiting until she has a great job to show she can sponsor herself
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 8:07pm On Aug 03, 2021
EngrSaks:
Na the way o. Hahahahaha




If you can't beat them........... cheesy
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Nobody: 8:15pm On Aug 03, 2021
STENON:
thank you bro. I will try my best for her again, please if you know people charging 2-4% for bank statement, or giving student loan, I don't mind lipsrsealed

How much you need roughly?more details please
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by STENON(f): 8:29pm On Aug 03, 2021
Irenenwaka:


How much you need roughly?more details please
total is 10million naira.

6million naira to put in the account plus 4 million naira as deposit for school fees.
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by EngrSaks(m): 8:37pm On Aug 03, 2021
I will just use my guys cases to give the limitations of help to buy

As the amount of the house increased, the amount he owed also increased

After 5 years, your interest rate increases, it also increased with the increase in value

Hard to remortgage to get out money to reinvest in another property

In a traditional "old" house, you can add a new toilet, refurbish the bathroom or upgrade the kitchen or add a conservatory and get instant increase in property value

In a new built, to make amendment you need plenty talk to get approval for minor renovation


Now I'm looking at home ownership as a means of wealth generation...if you can be remortgaging and buying new property every 5-8 years then at retirement you should have at least four houses without too much stress


Plus, everyone should get life insurance themselves and their partners o...na life insurance oyibo take dey ensure say their house go remain for the family after them die...insurance will pay off any unpaid mortgage after death

dustydee:

Please can you elaborate more on the limitations and drawbacks of Help to buy?

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by EngrSaks(m): 8:39pm On Aug 03, 2021
grin

Lexusgs430:



If you can't beat them........... cheesy

Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by tushqueen(f): 9:09pm On Aug 03, 2021
DeeOneBangin:


Not sure about a younger person, but the latest case I am aware of is that of my aunt (62yrs old). Fully sponsored by her nephew in the uk and she didn’t show her SOA. Her visit visa was granted

Thanks for this.

Can I also ask if having kids /spouse in naija could serve as a tie, kids between age 19-15. And her husband signs the consent letter
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by bigtt76(f): 9:30pm On Aug 03, 2021
How did she achieve the bolded


Lexusgs430:



Yes ...... Once someone is independent, they need to show ties to Nigeria.......

Those ties must be tidy enough, to resist temptation...... May we all have the ability to resist temptation........ grin

Even if she provided that bank statement, they would find another reason to refuse her ........

A couple of years ago, when my younger sister applied. She was refused, according to the jobsworth that dealt with her file, my mum's bank statement was FAKE ..........

My younger sister was working and earning well..........

My elder sister and I put our legal wigs on, appealed the decision (had loads of evidence on tow ).......

We headed down to Feltham on the hearing day, within one hour, case was over ........ Immigration judge ruled in our favour ........ Sent a letter to UKBA to issue visa ........... tongue

My younger sister is now fully resident and legal in the UK ..... grin
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Jbloc: 10:03pm On Aug 03, 2021
I beg to disagree.
The are both the same scenario, with HTB is even better
Person 2 can sell off his Help to Buy house in year 2, pay off his government liability and buy an old house. He has effectively used the interest free loan to get a leverage.
No point to wait an extra year and be paying rent, leverage the loan and get on the ladder.

EngrSaks:
Guys please think through before rushing to buy a new built house with help to buy o, it's not bad but buying an old house is alot better...

I know 2 people that bought houses roughly the same time...one bought with help to buy and the other bought with the normal old house deposit

The one that got the old house has remortgage, placed the house on rent and have gotten another house...while the one with help to buy has their liability to the govt increased


Even if it means waiting a year extra to gather the old house deposit, gather it, and then upgrade the house small small...in a few years you can remortgage, change the use and get a new house (with the increase in value)

Stay woke!

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by twizzie: 10:06pm On Aug 03, 2021
You can get a lawyer to help send a letter to the home office. Not appeal as I don't think that is possible now.

Personal experience of someone I know, visit visa denied, 1st last 2 years, then this year. Got a lawyer here who sent a letter addressing what the VO stated as reason for denial cos it seemed they just copied what was in the last refusal.(Which was what the VO did)
They responded they will review and get back in 3 months. 3 months later, asked that he send his passport and visa was approved.

A more expensive route but was better than just re-applying which will have resulted in another definite refusal. (Stenon this advise is not for you, just try organize study visa for your sis, it's better for her.)

Please this innovate website no get Nigeria on list of Countries, thought we could apply for renewal now. Help a sister please.
bigtt76:
How did she achieve the bolded


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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Jbloc: 10:07pm On Aug 03, 2021
No oga.
You can remortgage, sell or do whatever you want on the house. You can pay off your loan early too, irrespective of the current house value. Its all a win-win situation.

EngrSaks:
I will just use my guys cases to give the limitations of help to buy

As the amount of the house increased, the amount he owed also increased

After 5 years, your interest rate increases, it also increased with the increase in value

Hard to remortgage to get out money to reinvest in another property

In a traditional "old" house, you can add a new toilet, refurbish the bathroom or upgrade the kitchen or add a conservatory and get instant increase in property value

In a new built, to make amendment you need plenty talk to get approval for minor renovation


Now I'm looking at home ownership as a means of wealth generation...if you can be remortgaging and buying new property every 5-8 years then at retirement you should have at least four houses without too much stress


Plus, everyone should get life insurance themselves and their partners o...na life insurance oyibo take dey ensure say their house go remain for the family after them die...insurance will pay off any unpaid mortgage after death

Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by OkanlawonB(m): 10:16pm On Aug 03, 2021
Irenenwaka:


Hello Ola, let’s always remember that this is life where everything doesn’t always go as planned.
I have seen people who get accommodation in 1-2 weeks, i have seen others as well who don’t secure a place in like 2 months.

If i tell you can secure a place in 20 days, what happens in you are unable to do so? Have you got extra cash for more days on airbnb?(if you do then you can go with the airbnb option, whereas if you don’t it could be a risky option)

If i were in your shoes i would accept the accommodation my family is offering at Manchester. The location might not meet my requirements but at least i could stay there and gradually look for an accommodation in my desired location without being under any pressure.

Living in a shared accommodation as someone highlighted can be very challenging even with your kids but who knows you might get a very good place.

Just to add the time scale required to find a place depends on a lot of factors such as if you have enough money to pay upfront for rent as you are new to the uk, if you going to rent directly from landlord or agent, if you find an accommodation that suits the family needs and so on.

In summary stay away from any option that puts the family under unnecessary stress, duress and financial strain and most importantly pray about your plans.

Hi Irenewaka , a very important factor as regards accommodation and new arrivals from Nigeria is WHERE in the UK are they seeking this accommodation , this is not a mater of just hoping but more a question of availability. In the northwest of the UK accommodation is in excess supply. So long you can proof your financial capability to the landlord and you have the right to rent, you will only be making choices. Northern England is unlike London and environs or even republic of Ireland where accommodation is a big issue.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 10:29pm On Aug 03, 2021
bigtt76:
How did she achieve the bolded




Wetin pesin dey take chop eko, e dey put am under leaf ............ cheesy

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by tushqueen(f): 10:30pm On Aug 03, 2021
STENON:
Thank you, but she is not paying anything, we are sponsoring her trip. What is the best thing to say she is coming for?


Is she married
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by STENON(f): 10:37pm On Aug 03, 2021
tushqueen:



Is she married
no, she is single
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by EngrSaks(m): 10:43pm On Aug 03, 2021
I doubt we are referring to the same thing


Jbloc:
I beg to disagree.
The are both the same scenario, with HTB is even better
Person 2 can sell off his Help to Buy house in year 2, pay off his government liability and buy an old house. He has effectively used the interest free loan to get a leverage.
No point to wait an extra year and be paying rent, leverage the loan and get on the ladder.

Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by EngrSaks(m): 10:49pm On Aug 03, 2021
I am talking about using your house as a means of generating funds but still keeping the house and building a portfolio without too much financial pressure

Jbloc:
No oga.
You can remortgage, sell or do whatever you want on the house. You can pay off your loan early too, irrespective of the current house value. Its all a win-win situation.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by RalphJean: 11:14pm On Aug 03, 2021
Lexusgs430:



Yes ...... Once someone is independent, they need to show ties to Nigeria.......

Those ties must be tidy enough, to resist temptation...... May we all have the ability to resist temptation........ grin

Even if she provided that bank statement, they would find another reason to refuse her ........

A couple of years ago, when my younger sister applied. She was refused, according to the jobsworth that dealt with her file, my mum's bank statement was FAKE ..........

My younger sister was working and earning well..........

My elder sister and I put our legal wigs on, appealed the decision (had loads of evidence on tow ).......

We headed down to Feltham on the hearing day, within one hour, case was over ........ Immigration judge ruled in our favour ........ Sent a letter to UKBA to issue visa ........... tongue

My younger sister is now fully resident and legal in the UK ..... grin


By their posts, we can estimate their age. Ancient of days... its no longer called UKBA. Its UKVI now.
Repeat after me:
U-K-V-I

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by RalphJean: 11:17pm On Aug 03, 2021
bigtt76:
How did she achieve the bolded




The bolded was 'easily' achievable in those days. Those days. those days. if you want to know how long ago those days are, read @Lexusgs430's post again, he referred to UKVI as UKBA - Gives you an idea, a rough idea how long ago that was.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Estroller: 11:27pm On Aug 03, 2021
I'm sure EngrSaks is referring to HTB equity loan which gives the government a stake in your property, and yes you can remortgage but you won't have the luxury of choice available to someone with an old build.
Also when you come to sell, government will be cashing in the % of their stake left in the property.

Jbloc:
No oga.
You can remortgage, sell or do whatever you want on the house. You can pay off your loan early too, irrespective of the current house value. Its all a win-win situation.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 11:32pm On Aug 03, 2021
RalphJean:



By their posts, we can estimate their age. Ancient of days... its no longer called UKBA. Its UKVI now.
Repeat after me:
U-K-V-I


Old habits die hard ......... cheesy

Home office would have been a better acronym...... All this name changes, just makes lawyers busy reading and updating............. cheesy

With name changes, comes policy updates, repeals, subtractions and additions ........ wink

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Estroller: 11:34pm On Aug 03, 2021
In that year 2, the person will most likely be dealing with negative equity as the new build would have been bought at a premium, so if he sells he will be doing so at a loss or at best breaking even.

Jbloc:
I beg to disagree.
The are both the same scenario, with HTB is even better
Person 2 can sell off his Help to Buy house in year 2, pay off his government liability and buy an old house. He has effectively used the interest free loan to get a leverage.
No point to wait an extra year and be paying rent, leverage the loan and get on the ladder.

Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by EngrSaks(m): 11:46pm On Aug 03, 2021
Thanks for helping to clarify things,...its something that played out in my direct circle of friends....

Its just more tidy, quicker and straightforward to stick with old houses if you have plans to expand and dominate in this Mama charly land


Just something I thought to tell the house....I see a trend with our naija people and help to buy....

Estroller:
I'm sure EngrSaks is referring to HTB equity loan which gives the government a stake in your property, and yes you can remortgage but you won't have the luxury of choice available to someone with an old build.
Also when you come to sell, government will be cashing in the % of their stake left in the property.

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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Jbloc: 11:56pm On Aug 03, 2021
I'm not entirely sure what you mean buying at premium and selling at a loss.
There is equally no guarantee an old build will appreciate in value in 2 yrs.
After 2 years, your deposit and your monthly equity is intact. If house appreciates, it's a plus. My point it's a better savings, than waiting 2 extra years to save money for an old build. The rent you are paying for 2 years, is effectively saved to buy your old build cool and build your portfolio


Estroller:
In that year 2, the person will most likely be dealing with negative equity as the new build would have been bought at a premium, so if he sells he will be doing so at a loss or at best breaking even.

Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Estroller: 12:56am On Aug 04, 2021
New builds are known to be generally more expensive than old builds because they are freshly minted and this gives the occupiers the privilege of being the first to live in the house but that privilege adds extra cost to the price hence the premium.

True there are no guarantees of price increase on an old build in 2 years, but you are much more likely to make that gain with an old build expecially one that you've added value to than you will with a new build within thesame time frame.

Your deposit and equity(which will be negligible because your lender will front load their interest in the first few years of the mortgage) will still amount to thesame initial stake you own in the property except you've paid off or significantly reduced the government loan. This I reckon won't exactly put you in a position to buy without another help or at best leave you with the option of buying with a high LTV which you could have done earlier anyway without the HTB equity loan.

HTB equity loan I will say is mostly suitable for those finding it difficult to save up a deposit, if saving up a deposit is not a challenge then steer off HTB equity loan and if you must use it be prepared to stay put for a while before considering selling.

Jbloc:
I'm not entirely sure what you mean buying at premium and selling at a loss.
There is equally no guarantee an old build will appreciate in value in 2 yrs.
After 2 years, your deposit and your monthly equity is intact. If house appreciates, it's a plus. My point it's a better savings, than waiting 2 extra years to save money for an old build. The rent you are paying for 2 years, is effectively saved to buy your old build cool and build your portfolio


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