jesusjnr2020:
If you can't see that the idea of a woman being obligated to submit to her husband is a man-made idea, and not of God, then you may never be able get the point.

The only time God ever said such a thing was as a punishment for the woman's role in the fall of man. Try and read Genesis 3 again.

Nothing like that beforehand for God gave both of them authority over the earth and everything He made in the beginning, but as for submission, they were both meant to be submitted to His Own authority, that is the man and his wife, not someone else.

That's what Jesus came to restore, to put God back in charge, therefore for those who claim to be of God, yet want to keep the woman under bondage to such a curse of sin which Jesus had redeemed her from, they are rubbishing the efforts of Jesus in that regard.

Jesus ought to be the Lord and Master over every Christian marriage, not man, because there cannot be two masters in a home. It's either Him or the man, there are no two ways about.

People saying this probably don't know the gravity of what they're saying talking about women submitting to their husbands, since husbands are mere men and humans, therefore taking putting such an authority in their hands instead of God's, would most likely lead to some dangerous repercussions, because men could be evil as most men are.

Obviously the ego of men, including those who claim to be Christians would make it hard for them to accept this Truth, because they want to remain superior and stifling the woman integral to that.

But whom the Son of Man has set free from the bondage of sin is free indeed, so there's nothing any man can do to change that.

God bless.

BRATISLAVA:


They come right after the submission of, so it's just a matter of reading on rather than selectively reading.

Mordecai:


Good, you have accepted there are schools for girls in the north. We are now down to the issue of whether there are enough schools. That is why everyone, including females can vote to select good leaders. Let's focus our attention on the necessary things.



I wonder why you can bring up contemporary marriage experiences in the discussion while he cannot bring in contemporary human experience. Answer his question, please.

@Akuruoulo, please pick up your gauntlet.

I really am taken in by your discussion with Kobo.

Akuruoulo:

Which verse of the Bible were they afraid to read out ?
This is my question

BRATISLAVA:


They(the verses) come right after the submission one, so it's just a matter of reading on rather than selectively reading.

LilMissFavvy:
What are you talking about? Am I a MOG? Do I own a church? You men know the truth yet can never remind your MOGs to preach the needful. You hate it when people speak up.

Akuruoulo:

Why not recite it ?

BRATISLAVA:


Why should I? Any curious man can read it for himself. Or is searching the scriptures forbidden to men?

DEMZEE:

No he's isn't but wen he gets home he's the head of the house period!
Marriage works wen the man is in the leadership position and the woman is in the followership position period!
Men lead
Women follow
Women are not built to lead men especially in a relationship/marriage

johnHerba:
we all liked that, but not in excess especially if you do. But one needs repentance that the act of revolution and not puberty

BRATISLAVA:


Don't mind that character.

He's all over the place asking others to preach, while he did sits back and makes assumptions.

If you ask him why pastors avoid preaching that men who can't take care of their families are infidels, he will tell you to go and preach it, as if you're the pastor who is avoiding it. Too many self serving men in churches.

Don't be surprised it's a woman behind that handle.

hupernikao:


But you have a lord at work, a lord who is your country ruler. Bro, you are seriously under control that you don't even realize.

I don't even want to go to scriptures which you have already misread.

Nature already defines for you what submission is, even the things in natural understand this, even animals understand this. Like I said, your environment has affected your interpretation of scriptures and view of life. See submission beyond lording then you will understand the role of man in a family.

BRATISLAVA:


I don't know why it's hard for people to learn from Jesus. Sexism/masochism isn't of God. All it does is oppress and raise strife, to tell you that it is of no good value. It seems submission is the only verse in some people's Bibles.

That particular Bible verse is always preached, but the Bible has many other verses that talk about what the character of a man should be like, both at home and abroad. It even talks about a man's ability to provide for his family and how to care for them.

Yet these topics aren't touched while pastors beat on submission year in and year out. These people add and subtract to the Bible as they please, while their members get an ego massage. Dangerous brand of Christianity.

Feminism isn't dangerous when they want their wives to wear trousers. It isn't dangerous when they need feminists tithes. It is not dangerous when they want an affair with a feminist. It's not to be outlawed when their daughters are making career gains.

There would be no feminism if men were considerate about women.

Magnoliaa:


Show me a redpiller, and I'll show you a foolish person.

BRATISLAVA:


God bless you for this.

I've learned something new from this post.

Magnoliaa:


Ok. Ehen, good. Me I want to talk too. Shey you won't run as well?

pansophist:


Run from wetin? I full for ground gidigba

Magnoliaa:


How many times have you as a redpiller focused on the northern boy's plight, oga? How does MGTOW aid their cause? Last I checked, I don't see y'all discussing tangible men's issues and solutions except for heartbreak and gaming women. Who says feminism has to speak for all and do all or be every oppressed group's champion? If illiteracy is a general problem in the north, the girl child has it worse. And faces even peculiar problems by virtue of being a girl. Go ahead and be blind to this. Before you jump ahead to ask what feminists are doing about this, the question you asked was for Kobo to list problems of the girl child. For you to turn around and say, "do boys not face it?" then you have to accept the base fact that girls face it, therefore women face issues - generally and as a sex. [Sorry, feminism is not for men. I do not believe this anymore, because it's what y'all latch onto to demand inclusion and that's where the problem comes from for the "feminists" now. They say feminism is for everyone, but still go on to talk about women's issues. There's bound to arise clashes like these, therefore it's important feminism remain woman-centred. That doesn't mean they are the only ones who face societal issues, but as a sex, they cut across all other strata because they are a half of the population and will receive more attention as Whites, Blacks, Asians and so on. We can't call it feminism if we 'jampack' men's issues put and we need specialized movements to work effectively]. Even if I listed a thousand issues women face, you'd spin it around to generalize.

Stating the fact of things is not engaging in an oppression Olympics.

Here...go through this Twitter thread and see the things women experience and men do not, hence the importance of feminism for addressing women's issues. It's a list of discriminatory laws in African constitutions.

https://mobile.twitter.com/a_nickabugu/status/1264295256473964545

These are easily verifiable. Don't be lazy and tell me they are just tweets, deer.

Talking about what women lacked and are denied would rightly not include men because those things in particular do not affect them. Their experiences are literally nonexisten-t in such cases.

Any more deflections and whataboutism yo' gort?

pansophist:

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BJanta:

There's no where in the Bible where GOD gave women the 'right' to be a feminist. .... You can defend and advocate for them from your uninformed, secular and wordly understanding of the evil as much as you may, at fullness of age when they will stand before JESUS to give account, they will then find the eternal error of their ways. And I hope, you all would be around defend them.

mountmoriah:
[b]Jesus was not stupid when he didn't appoint or call any woman as one of the apostles, not that there Is not good women at that time but a woman will always [/b]remain a woman, they can be manipulated, one by the devil, two by materials things, thirdly by the man servicing them well, they can even kill their husband, children because of this, fourthly they themselves are in one way or the other devilish and manipulator, all the problem of man started from a foolish woman called eve, man was design to live forever until eve showed up in the film.

gabicon:

Most things in life are governed by rules and principles, these rules are created to give context to challenges encountered in the respective institution. Marriage is one of such institution the rule is that the man Loves the woman submits, so if you know you can't love your wife don't get married it's not by force, so also if you can't submit to your husband's don't marry.

Human beings like to reap the benefits of an ideology but don't want to submit to the rules and regulations governing the ideology.

A marriage is similar to any other institution that has a chief executive and director, the director can't claim equality with the CEO, the responsibilities are different, so also is marriage.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ had female apostles.

Stop lying in the name of God.

mountmoriah:
out of the 12 how many females

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ had more than 12 apostles before His apostles before His end... He even sent 72 of them out at one point.

jesusjnr2020:
If you have any lord or master other than Jesus, speak for yourself not me, because Jesus is the only Lord and Master I have and who determines my actions.

I have told you to go and bring a place where God said women should submit themselves to their husbands, apart from when He said he shall rule over her, as a punishment for her role in the fall of man among other things, just as He did to the Adam who He cursed the ground for his sake.

It is clearly man-made and not of God but your choice not to accept that glaring truth.

mountmoriah:
name them

omoyankee3:
Feminism is a divisive tool used by the devil to cause enmity between men and women, thereby attacking and destroying the family unit (which is the very foundation of any society).

If you are in doubt about the negative impact of feminism on the family, take a look at America and other western societies that have embraced it. In the U.S., the number if people getting married is dropping fast AND rate of divorce is increasing every year.

You can already see folks of opposite gender fighting and arguing on nairaland....this is how it would be in real life if allowed to take roots.

ThothHermes:
Keep quiet. They preach it. From my experience, they preach love more than submission.
Bloggers just carry submission more than love. For obvious reasons.

BRATISLAVA:


I asked why you're criticizing me to highlight how pointless what you're saying is. If you're criticizing me, what's wrong with criticizing others according to you? The more you post, the more advisory critical you get.

I consider it preaching in the context of your mention since you wanted me to go to a forum. Isn't this a forum? Did you notice the word was in quotes? Obviously not.

Your issue is that I told you I'm not a pastor. Let the pastors preaching the lopsided message be the ones to correct it from the same pulpit, that's my advice.

Or better still, why don't you do the contribution, instead of hiding behind my posts, trying in vain to criticize me to do the things you have not done?

You're becoming more familiar with each post.