₦airaland Forum

007sam:
Bro, am a programmer and have been thinking a way out of this country nigeria because i find it hard to work remotely and get paid by outside companies, so i deside to look for altanative way of leaving Nigeria, at least when i settle in any of the country then i can be able to work remotely from that country.
Please bro, give me a contact i need a cleu from you.

jimcaddy:
Everyone saying Jakpa, jakpa. If you ask them to give you specifics on how to jakpa, you will hear different stories. No one will give you the information you need. Besides shey if those ones did not put their own houses in order, will we see where to migrate to? We used our own hands to spoil our country. Greed and sentiments brought us to where we are in Nigeria today where food has now become a problem. Even if everyone jakpa, will it make Nigeria better? We are only leaving for our individual selfish interests and that of our families.

richmanrichard:
just these 3? Can d 3 be learnt in 6months?

jimcaddy:
Everyone saying Jakpa, jakpa. If you ask them to give you specifics on how to jakpa, you will hear different stories. No one will give you the information you need. Besides shey if those ones did not put their own houses in order, will we see where to migrate to? We used our own hands to spoil our country. Greed and sentiments brought us to where we are in Nigeria today where food has now become a problem. Even if everyone jakpa, will it make Nigeria better? We are only leaving for our individual selfish interests and that of our families.

ShedrachU:
Firstly, you are stup!d for calling an innocent country a zoo. (When you know, humans even you is the problem the earth face—our leaders and politicians are humans).

Secondly, you are a weakling if you can face and stand a business policy. 1% and you ignorantly, blatantly and in a bias sense wrote this epistle forgetting that you gonna pay tax in all those countries you mentioned. Do you know that most FinTech companies in Nigeria don't pay tax?

Thirdly, living is not a bed of rose, nor is Nigeria the worse place to do develop a FinTech company, if it is, Flutterwawe wouldn't have been where they are today.

Nigeria is a free place where you do what you want, yet una go complain say no law, now a law is passed, still una go still complain.

Humans cannot be pleased.

tensazangetsu20:
Tech twitter has been on fire this past few days. First was the new startup law being passed that will see the government taking one percent of startup revenue especially fintechs and the second was the closure of accounts belonging to fintech companies like risevest, investbamboo, and trove. This is just 2 months after the crypto ban.

I predicted this will happen a few months back but some people as usual called me a pessimist. Now, this has happened. They came for gokada first citing stupid reasons yet okadas are still in Lagos driving anyhow. They blocked remittances and made it very difficult to receive money. If you work remotely in Nigeria for a foreign company, you can attest to how difficult it is to receive money. I know people who have lost their jobs just because the companies they work for could not figure out how they could pay them in Nigeria then add the epileptic electricity supply and the bad internet.

If you are a programmer, trust me you are amongst the elite. Walai every day I regret not discovering the tech industry earlier. There's a fucking huge demand for programmers outside the shores of Africa. Latin America, Europe, and Asia. A lot of people think japa and will be thinking USA and Canada. Getting a work visa to these countries as a Nigerian living in Nigeria is almost impossible. It has happened for some people but its not the norm and you should not place your hope on it. The USA has a cap on the amount of work visas that go out every year and those visas most times go to OPT candidates (people who have schooled in the US). Canada doesnt have a cap but they prefer permanent residents or citizens to processing a work visa from scratch for an outsider. Australia same thing.

There are other countries that exist that do not have a cap on work visas and are desperately looking for programmers. These countries can be used as a stepping stone to your final dream destination instead of wasting your life in Nigeria looking for a US or Canadian visa. Countries like portugal, spain, brazil, mexico, vietnam, japan, south korea. The list is endless. These are countries desperately looking for programmers and their work visas arent difficult to get. Their governments are even encouraging tech migration to prepare for the next industrial revolution. As a Nigerian you have a serious advantage getting there. You speak English. English is the unofficial defacto language of the IT industry. If you go on linkedin and search tech jobs in this countries, you would find out that one of the requirements for most of these jobs is professional english proficiency. Their citizens dont have it and a few who have it are headhunted to countries like the US and Canada leaving a huge gap for skilled third worlders like Nigerians to take advantage of. A japanese programmer who speaks english really well can get into the USA easily. Japan has a visa waiver program with the USA and is one of the few countries that shares a working holiday visa with the US. Brazil has one with germany. Uruguay has with sweden. These are countries you should target because their own people are leaving presenting a very huge gap. Once you can get into these countries, leaving to your dream destination isnt too difficult and even if you dont want to leave, these countries have a lot of opportunities for you to build your own tech business. Their governments are very progressive. Their people arent poor or getting poorer and are very open to using technology. Theres another way of getting to the US via L1 company transfer but how many american tech companies exist in Nigeria and whats the size of the engineering team? These countries have as much 2000 to 3000 size engineering teams. You can move there, switch jobs to an american company and request for an L1 company transfer. The possibilities are limitless.

I myself started testing this theory out and I have gotten ten interviews from companies in Ukraine, Poland, Belarus, Vietnam, and Chile. I am in the mid way of 3 and I really hope one goes through as I want to leave the zoo fast.

You might say stay in Nigeria and start a tech business. Well with what the government is doing to startups and the purchasing power of Nigerians reducing everyday, I dont know how that would be viable. NIgeria is so bad to the point that to eat food is a problem. Growing up, Nigeria was never at a level where food will be a problem. Festival periods and we would have food from all our neighbours even the poorest. Now thas not done and the worst is yet to come.

You can say stay in Nigeria and continue remote. Trust me remote work is sweet in your 20s but a sponsorship job is better as you would be provided insurance for, pension plans and all of that which remote work wont give you and remote jobs arent stable especially with small companies. You can lose them anytime and you need to start looking again. Its not bad in your 20s but will you be doing this at 40 and above. Will you be applying to remote jobs at 50 when your mates who migrated are CTOs for fortune 500 companies earning millions of dollars every year while you are looking for scraps in remote.

Make haste o.

tensazangetsu20:
Oh yes that's why I tell people all the time to learn coding. Infact I have told gerrard59 that when God blesses me the only thing I will do for my homeland is opening a very huge IT centre with a ton of computers for my kinsmen to learn programming. Before I became a programmer I was a mechanic o. I was a mechanic and an auto parts trader with my engineering degree. No job anywhere. I went to volunteer at a mechanic workshop and learnt to fix cars. Left there and went back to ladipo. I was struggling day in day out yet no single Kobo. To even see a 100k in a month was like a huge amount after all expenses were done. It was hell. Even with all the skills I had. I knew digital marketing, how to fix cars yet nothing o. it was a very top guy in the Nigerian tech industry that told me to quit everything I was doing and learn coding. It wasn't easy but everyday I thank God I took that man's advise.

Infact the greatest thing that can lift Nigeria out of poverty now is programming but the greatest hindrance is a laptop and laptops aren't getting cheaper. the laptop I used to learn coding I got it for 75k the same laptop is being sold for at least 140k just in the span of a year.

tensazangetsu20:
Oh yes that's why I tell people all the time to learn coding. Infact I have told gerrard59 that when God blesses me the only thing I will do for my homeland is opening a very huge IT centre with a ton of computers for my kinsmen to learn programming. Before I became a programmer I was a mechanic o. I was a mechanic and an auto parts trader with my engineering degree. No job anywhere. I went to volunteer at a mechanic workshop and learnt to fix cars. Left there and went back to ladipo. I was struggling day in day out yet no single Kobo. To even see a 100k in a month was like a huge amount after all expenses were done. It was hell. Even with all the skills I had. I knew digital marketing, how to fix cars yet nothing o. it was a very top guy in the Nigerian tech industry that told me to quit everything I was doing and learn coding. It wasn't easy but everyday I thank God I took that man's advise.

Infact the greatest thing that can lift Nigeria out of poverty now is programming but the greatest hindrance is a laptop and laptops aren't getting cheaper. the laptop I used to learn coding I got it for 75k the same laptop is being sold for at least 140k just in the span of a year.

biosystech:
I'm guessing it's a Folio 9480m or 9470m?

Sheriman:
Everything in Nigeria is becoming worsening. I want to learn 3D Animation but I need a good laptop of 16gig RAM 8GIG Nvidia graphics card worth 500K. No where to get the money nobody to borrow you

richmanrichard:
just these 3? Can d 3 be learnt in 6months?

tensazangetsu20:
Tech twitter has been on fire this past few days. First was the new startup law being passed that will see the government taking one percent of startup revenue especially fintechs and the second was the closure of accounts belonging to fintech companies like risevest, investbamboo, and trove. This is just 2 months after the crypto ban.

I predicted this will happen a few months back but some people as usual called me a pessimist. Now, this has happened. They came for gokada first citing stupid reasons yet okadas are still in Lagos driving anyhow. They blocked remittances and made it very difficult to receive money. If you work remotely in Nigeria for a foreign company, you can attest to how difficult it is to receive money. I know people who have lost their jobs just because the companies they work for could not figure out how they could pay them in Nigeria then add the epileptic electricity supply and the bad internet.

If you are a programmer, trust me you are amongst the elite. Walai every day I regret not discovering the tech industry earlier. There's a fucking huge demand for programmers outside the shores of Africa. Latin America, Europe, and Asia. A lot of people think japa and will be thinking USA and Canada. Getting a work visa to these countries as a Nigerian living in Nigeria is almost impossible. It has happened for some people but its not the norm and you should not place your hope on it. The USA has a cap on the amount of work visas that go out every year and those visas most times go to OPT candidates (people who have schooled in the US). Canada doesnt have a cap but they prefer permanent residents or citizens to processing a work visa from scratch for an outsider. Australia same thing.

There are other countries that exist that do not have a cap on work visas and are desperately looking for programmers. These countries can be used as a stepping stone to your final dream destination instead of wasting your life in Nigeria looking for a US or Canadian visa. Countries like portugal, spain, brazil, mexico, vietnam, japan, south korea. The list is endless. These are countries desperately looking for programmers and their work visas arent difficult to get. Their governments are even encouraging tech migration to prepare for the next industrial revolution. As a Nigerian you have a serious advantage getting there. You speak English. English is the unofficial defacto language of the IT industry. If you go on linkedin and search tech jobs in this countries, you would find out that one of the requirements for most of these jobs is professional english proficiency. Their citizens dont have it and a few who have it are headhunted to countries like the US and Canada leaving a huge gap for skilled third worlders like Nigerians to take advantage of. A japanese programmer who speaks english really well can get into the USA easily. Japan has a visa waiver program with the USA and is one of the few countries that shares a working holiday visa with the US. Brazil has one with germany. Uruguay has with sweden. These are countries you should target because their own people are leaving presenting a very huge gap. Once you can get into these countries, leaving to your dream destination isnt too difficult and even if you dont want to leave, these countries have a lot of opportunities for you to build your own tech business. Their governments are very progressive. Their people arent poor or getting poorer and are very open to using technology. Theres another way of getting to the US via L1 company transfer but how many american tech companies exist in Nigeria and whats the size of the engineering team? These countries have as much 2000 to 3000 size engineering teams. You can move there, switch jobs to an american company and request for an L1 company transfer. The possibilities are limitless.

I myself started testing this theory out and I have gotten ten interviews from companies in Ukraine, Poland, Belarus, Vietnam, and Chile. I am in the mid way of 3 and I really hope one goes through as I want to leave the zoo fast.

You might say stay in Nigeria and start a tech business. Well with what the government is doing to startups and the purchasing power of Nigerians reducing everyday, I dont know how that would be viable. NIgeria is so bad to the point that to eat food is a problem. Growing up, Nigeria was never at a level where food will be a problem. Festival periods and we would have food from all our neighbours even the poorest. Now thas not done and the worst is yet to come.

You can say stay in Nigeria and continue remote. Trust me remote work is sweet in your 20s but a sponsorship job is better as you would be provided insurance for, pension plans and all of that which remote work wont give you and remote jobs arent stable especially with small companies. You can lose them anytime and you need to start looking again. Its not bad in your 20s but will you be doing this at 40 and above. Will you be applying to remote jobs at 50 when your mates who migrated are CTOs for fortune 500 companies earning millions of dollars every year while you are looking for scraps in remote.

Make haste o.

Gerrard59:
In 2000, no one envisaged people would be kidnapped and huge ransoms paid to have them released. Ten years later, kidnappings became rife.

Prior to the late 2000s, no one believed Nigerians will indulge in suicide bombings. Ten years later, suicide bombings became a norm. In 2010, no one ever thought that school children would be kidnapped, raped and some killed or ransoms close to N1BN will be paid for their release. Just more than ten years on, such is rampant.

Currently, aircrafts are being shot down. By 2031, it will become a norm for aircrafts, commercial and military, to be shot down daily.

The Nigeria of today will be a paradise to the Nigeria in the next ten years.

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Don't say you were not warned.

CSTRR:
Why those three in particular?

Johnnyessence:
you are 100% right bro, I celebrate you here. I’m presently learning python programming too. I started last month, in 5 months time I will be true with it.

TJoshy:
I studied Microbiology in my BSc. I work at an FMCG company as a Quality Assurance. I'm planning now to do a Postgraduate Diploma in Computer Science and thereafter I'll do MSc Computer Science at Unilag during this time I'll be learning hard-core programming, I'm 30. I hope it's a good plan.

tensazangetsu20:
Yes. Check my previous post for a roadmap.

jimcaddy:
Everyone saying Jakpa, jakpa. If you ask them to give you specifics on how to jakpa, you will hear different stories. No one will give you the information you need. Besides shey if those ones did not put their own houses in order, will we see where to migrate to? We used our own hands to spoil our country. Greed and sentiments brought us to where we are in Nigeria today where food has now become a problem. Even if everyone jakpa, will it make Nigeria better? We are only leaving for our individual selfish interests and that of our families.

Gerrard59:
In 2000, no one envisaged people would be kidnapped and huge ransoms paid to have them released. Ten years later, kidnappings became rife.

Prior to the late 2000s, no one believed Nigerians will indulge in suicide bombings. Ten years later, suicide bombings became a norm. In 2010, no one ever thought that school children would be kidnapped, raped and some killed or ransoms close to N1BN will be paid for their release. Just more than ten years on, such is rampant.

Currently, aircrafts are being shot down. By 2031, it will become a norm for aircrafts, commercial and military, to be shot down daily.

The Nigeria of today will be a paradise to the Nigeria in the next ten years.

---

Don't say you were not warned.

Sheriman:
Everything in Nigeria is becoming worsening. I want to learn 3D Animation but I need a good laptop of 16gig RAM 8GIG Nvidia graphics card worth 500K. No where to get the money nobody to borrow you

KushLyon:
It depends on the amount of time you put into learning . I learnt html and css for 4 months (I started April this year) but it took longer time because I'm currently a student, so i don't have enough time to learn programming. But if you have enough time, html and css will take you about 2 to 3 months. As for javascript....hmmm....just know it will take you at least 6 months

tensazangetsu20:
Oh yes that's why I tell people all the time to learn coding. Infact I have told gerrard59 that when God blesses me the only thing I will do for my homeland is opening a very huge IT centre with a ton of computers for my kinsmen to learn programming. Before I became a programmer I was a mechanic o. I was a mechanic and an auto parts trader with my engineering degree. No job anywhere. I went to volunteer at a mechanic workshop and learnt to fix cars. Left there and went back to ladipo. I was struggling day in day out yet no single Kobo. To even see a 100k in a month was like a huge amount after all expenses were done. It was hell. Even with all the skills I had. I knew digital marketing, how to fix cars yet nothing o. it was a very top guy in the Nigerian tech industry that told me to quit everything I was doing and learn coding. It wasn't easy but everyday I thank God I took that man's advise.

Infact the greatest thing that can lift Nigeria out of poverty now is programming but the greatest hindrance is a laptop and laptops aren't getting cheaper. the laptop I used to learn coding I got it for 75k the same laptop is being sold for at least 140k just in the span of a year.

PeaceJoyLove:
I am not saying boys and girls should not move out...infact, I am moving out too again also cos I have done my best too in the little ways God sent me. However, I do not appreciate the way OP is doing it.

He is going to be a secondary citizen where he is going. Well, who cares about that? But the issue is that he has relatives here. So? What about that?

Anyone who talks like OP has the tendency to just leave, forget about Nigeria, even abandon everything including his friends.

With that kind of style, they always return only when they want to contest for political positions. Though, they tell you they will not, but trust me ...they will.

And if care is not taking, there are jobs he will want or progress he desires that he needs to still look Niaja side. If Naija is destroyed, he wont have such. No matter what and whenever he fills any form, he will forever wrote Nigeria as his place of birth. The reference will be there for the rest of his life. That's it.

So, why cant we be positive in the midst of calamities? I dont pray Nigeria turns to Afghanistan.

So sir, take back your statement. Nigeria will never go beyond redemption. If you understand this negative statement, you will never utter it.

RedEnergy:
Python and Java are platform independent. You don't need to keep rewriting the codes. C++ is popular for games and business apps. So learning and becoming an expert in these 3 gives me a solid chance of being a programmer in demand.

PeaceJoyLove:
We really need to discuss. Bro, relax.

I sympathize with you and all. I feel same too. Nigeria is becoming harder, no doubt. But....hmmmmm!

Personally, I have a problem with the kinds of techs around. Some of them are used to launder money and we know this is true.

Also, all these investment techs...they are thieves. Really, I need to look into these new cases. Imagine some of these starts up, they start with something, and before you know it....they start promoting different investments which at the end are rubbish. I can count many of them just opening real estate and agro investments which are the top tools for scamming fo olish Nigerians. And they contract them out to illiterates in bushes. Many of them have squandered millions. Meanwhile, if they used all in the said businesses, fine...but they dont. They divert the money for their own enjoyment. If they use it for something tangible...fine...but they buy luxurious cars and you start seeing pictures on Instagram pages testifying to the goodness of God meanwhile, businesses are failing. Annoying part is they pay tithes from investment funds. Meaning they had made profit already... And they dont even protect themselves from been liable to paying back debts. Let's get it straight and not just blame government for everything.

We are the reasons forex and why govt releases terrible policies. Govt banned BDC, people cried they are not good. Meanwhile, it will have positive effect on someone like you. Yet, people who arent driving our economic positively are the ones always having upper hands.

Well, in a way...hmmm I see Nigeria going the Afghanistan route., but I keep praying against it. And the whole world knows if this happen, the whole of WEST africa is in trouble. Bro, rather than this to happen, the south will break. And if this happens, I swear, north will suffer. Is it Niger or the upper part that are able to team up with the north and flourish? But if the south breaks, just look at our partners - Benin, Togo, Ghana, Ivory Coast, etc. So, this thing is not only about govt only.

Corruption is what finished Afghanistan. Imagine the president there right under the nose of the Americans....according to Russians ran away with cars loaded with money and the chopper he used too was loaded. Just imagine this. It means the man had money at home anytime ready to take off. Corruption is the main issue.

So, look at the fintechs people are creating...invest this...invest that...bla bla bla. And cos they know about crypto, fx, etc...politicians use them to move out stolen loots too. Let us not close our eyes to these issues.

If you read me well, my stuff are towards making Nigeria better. There are start ups we can do. I still know we can do it.

Yes, I agree with you...anyone who wants to jakpa should. There is no thinking about it. Just Jakpa. But we can still save Nigeria.

TheOldGods:
coding with laptops is not even expensive.. I do coding in my animations, I use java, my desktop cost me 800k plus just to set up. I did medical laboratory in school, which was a wrong move for me. However,I've corrected it. The best thing is to find a remote contract work that can give a person upto 10million within 12 months, then expand and invest in your own company."like me now, I used some of my money to buy lands, and some I have resolved and made back upto 5million on the sale, I am looking to importing of cars, plus I also opened a studio in Enugu, which is an animation school, I want it to be the biggest motion graphics school in Nigeria". The guy shouting leave Nigeria, forgets that he spend the exact dollars over there and they pay huge tax coupled with very expensive house rent. For example, a burger there cost about 5$ which is 2500 or ,2000 here, but actually a burger here cost 700 naira. Imagine making that money and spending it here. Not everyone that is intelligent has wisdom.

tensazangetsu20:
Oh yes that's why I tell people all the time to learn coding. Infact I have told gerrard59 that when God blesses me the only thing I will do for my homeland is opening a very huge IT centre with a ton of computers for my kinsmen to learn programming. Before I became a programmer I was a mechanic o. I was a mechanic and an auto parts trader with my engineering degree. No job anywhere. I went to volunteer at a mechanic workshop and learnt to fix cars. Left there and went back to ladipo. I was struggling day in day out yet no single Kobo. To even see a 100k in a month was like a huge amount after all expenses were done. It was hell. Even with all the skills I had. I knew digital marketing, how to fix cars yet nothing o. it was a very top guy in the Nigerian tech industry that told me to quit everything I was doing and learn coding. It wasn't easy but everyday I thank God I took that man's advise.

Infact the greatest thing that can lift Nigeria out of poverty now is programming but the greatest hindrance is a laptop and laptops aren't getting cheaper. the laptop I used to learn coding I got it for 75k the same laptop is being sold for at least 140k just in the span of a year.

Angelawhite:
Keep your advice to yourself. I can see you are very much emotionally attached to your dear motherland. You want us to thank God for what we have. Yes we thank him for the remote jobs. But even the MD of NNPC is still aspiring for greater heights and so are Nigerian youths and programmers in general.

Same reason why doctors are leaving in droves is same reason why most people want to leave. It's a funny that you want us to "give back to the society". We don't owe any society a dime. I paid and worked for everything I have and I don't owe shi-shi to anyone.

tensazangetsu20:
Oh yes that's why I tell people all the time to learn coding. Infact I have told gerrard59 that when God blesses me the only thing I will do for my homeland is opening a very huge IT centre with a ton of computers for my kinsmen to learn programming. Before I became a programmer I was a mechanic o. I was a mechanic and an auto parts trader with my engineering degree. No job anywhere. I went to volunteer at a mechanic workshop and learnt to fix cars. Left there and went back to ladipo. I was struggling day in day out yet no single Kobo. To even see a 100k in a month was like a huge amount after all expenses were done. It was hell. Even with all the skills I had. I knew digital marketing, how to fix cars yet nothing o. it was a very top guy in the Nigerian tech industry that told me to quit everything I was doing and learn coding. It wasn't easy but everyday I thank God I took that man's advise.

Infact the greatest thing that can lift Nigeria out of poverty now is programming but the greatest hindrance is a laptop and laptops aren't getting cheaper. the laptop I used to learn coding I got it for 75k the same laptop is being sold for at least 140k just in the span of a year.