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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 3:30pm On Aug 24, 2021
afrodoc2:


Other clubs will be offering the 64 million. We should just activate the release clause and forget about it. This is not the time for the useless and endless Sancho negotiations.

They wouldn't want to sell without direct replacement, reason Martial will likely make the Offer more appealing to them.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 3:33pm On Aug 24, 2021
ChristineC:
easier to sell Martial to Italy or Spain and make up the Haaland fee.
Martial may not even want a paycut that can secure a transfer and that will be a problem.

I get your point, but same Dortmund increased Sancho wage to €200k+ 2 Seasons ago. Martial is on 250k, experienced, deadly.... its gonna be a Steal for them. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:34pm On Aug 24, 2021
Panther7:
plays in double pivot in Atleti sometimes as a wide midfielder.
Saul is not bad but he is more a CM...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlueAngel444: 3:34pm On Aug 24, 2021
De Gea; Wan-Bissaka, Maguire, Varane, Shaw; Saul, Fred, Fernandes; Sancho, Pogba, Greenwood.

Title winning XI only problem is.... grin

How is united leading the race to sign a player they just started taking to within 24hrs, player they have been chasing for three years.

From Barca being broke and offering Griezmann, to Liverpool losing interesting to Chelsea finally taking up Atletico's offer for a loan bid. Suddenly it's united that's leading cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 3:35pm On Aug 24, 2021
Regarding Ñíguez to Manchester United, I know that the player was discussed by people at United as recently as this morning, so the interest is genuine. And there is currently an open dialogue between United and Saúl’s representatives.

- Jonathan Shrager
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 3:40pm On Aug 24, 2021
This club people dey mad
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 3:42pm On Aug 24, 2021
patrickmuf:
Exactly...

OGS should come back to this thread and pick up a few things, who knows if he sees most of our suggestions and Nani's eternal anthem we might just see a new changeangry

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:48pm On Aug 24, 2021
melodyogonna:
We should really be looking at Yves Bissouma tbh
That guy is the truth...Always in the right position and his composure on the ball is admirable...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:50pm On Aug 24, 2021
elrony:


OGS should come back to this thread and pick up a few things, who knows if he sees most of our suggestions and Nani's eternal anthem we might just see a new changeangry
Hehehe I hope he comes here before deadline day...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 3:54pm On Aug 24, 2021
GloryIsaac:


Watching Pérez yesternight was so underwhelming. Kept trying to see what he offers that Senior Man can’t offer.

Even their EPL stats are similar, with Kelechi scoring higher in crucial areas. Good thing United didn’t go for Maddison, dey for don sack Olé by now lmao

Make I see if he go bench senior man this weekendcheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 3:55pm On Aug 24, 2021
patrickmuf:
Hehehe I hope he comes here before deadline day...

Na next match day lineup I dey look out for, make I confirm if baba don lazzdent finally grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 4:17pm On Aug 24, 2021
Oasis007:
Erling Haaland will be free to leave Borussia Dortmund in January, rather than next summer, when a £64million release clause becomes active.

- Marca


We shouldn't miss out.

There is a reason Dortmund have been silent on that release clause. It is most likely not as low as people think. Be that as it may, there is a reason clubs like Chelsea tried to sign him this season against January when the release clause can be activated for cheaper. The only people to lose out on a huge windfall from Haaland sale will be Dortmund. Here is a speculative breakdown of what the deal will actually be like: Mino Raiola's fees - 50M (to have access to the player), 20M (Haaland's father fees - to convince his son to take your offer), --- M (sign on bonus for Haaland - for signing with your club). That deal will end up being closer to 190M Euros than anything else. Just that only 80M of it will go to Dortmund. MCFC will most likely never go for him because of the hatred between Mino and Pep (by extension MCFC). Real Madrid are going for Mbappe. Chelsea have acquired Lukaku, so the only teams that can meaningfully sign the player are United and Bayern Munich and perhaps Barcelona (if they get their finances in order by some miracle). It won't be as cheap and simplistic as it sounds. Like I said before, there is a reason Real Madrid, MCFC and CFC looked elsewhere.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 4:33pm On Aug 24, 2021
Android17:


There is a reason Dortmund have been silent on that release clause. It is most likely not as low as people think. Be that as it may, there is a reason clubs like Chelsea tried to sign him this season against January when the release clause can be activated for cheaper. The only people to lose out on a huge windfall from Haaland sale will be Dortmund. Here is a speculative breakdown of what the deal will actually be like: Mino Raiola's fees - 50M (to have access to the player), 20M (Haaland's father fees - to convince his son to take your offer), --- M (sign on bonus for Haaland - for signing with your club). That deal will end up being closer to 190M Euros than anything else. Just that only 80M of it will go to Dortmund. MCFC will most likely never go for him because of the hatred between Mino and Pep (by extension MCFC). Real Madrid are going for Mbappe. Chelsea have acquired Lukaku, so the only teams that can meaningfully sign the player are United and Bayern Munich and perhaps Barcelona (if they get their finances in order by some miracle). It won't be as cheap and simplistic as it sounds. Like I said before, there is a reason Real Madrid, MCFC and CFC looked elsewhere.

Chai grin grin...
See as the comot Liverpool for analysis...

Anyways....I'm only here because I enjoy Ole's tomfoolery... cheesy grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 4:35pm On Aug 24, 2021
...And the reason I put -- M for the sign on bonus is because that is where the bidding war will be between the bidding teams. Chelsea wanted to offer 150M GBP for the player - even up to 160M and Dortmund did not budge. Haaland did not cause a ruckus. Rumour mills said Dortmund would have listened at 175M GBP. When you see clubs rather opt to pay 127M GBP (maybe up to 150M GBP for a 28 year old), there must be a reason that others are overlooking.

cc Oasis007
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 4:36pm On Aug 24, 2021
AnfieldFan:


Chai grin grin...
See as the comot Liverpool for analysis...

Anyways....I'm only here because I enjoy Ole's tomfoolery... cheesy grin

Liverpool cannot afford such a figure on one player. They will have to sell Salah to offset his wage to do that. Mbappe would have considered Liverpool but they cannot afford him.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlueAngel444: 4:46pm On Aug 24, 2021
Android17:
...And the reason I put -- M for the sign on bonus is because that is where the bidding war will be between the bidding teams. Chelsea wanted to offer 150M GBP for the player - even up to 160M and Dortmund did not budge. Haaland did not cause a ruckus. Rumour mills said Dortmund would have listened at 175M GBP. When you see clubs rather opt to pay 127M GBP (maybe up to 150M GBP for a 28 year old), there must be a reason that others are overlooking.

cc Oasis007
if Bayern are considering Haaland then it may be not as expensive. €80m–€100m R-Clause plus highest €50m for whatever and whoever, Raiola, signing on fee, Papa o.
Total 130m

As long as Dortmund can't stop him moving, the real negotiation would be on his salary and his interests.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:50pm On Aug 24, 2021
melodyogonna:
We should really be looking at Yves Bissouma tbh
We should be going after this guy. I don't know what's their problem at old Trafford
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 4:59pm On Aug 24, 2021
BlueAngel444:
if Bayern are considering Haaland then it may be not as expensive. €80m–€100m R-Clause plus highest €50m for whatever and whoever, Raiola, signing on fee, Papa o.
Total 130m

As long as Dortmund can't stop him moving, the real negotiation would be on his salary and his interests.

lol. The release clause fee goes to the club. Mino's fee is most likely fixed and since Haaland is signed to him, it means Haaland will need to pay him that amount to fire him. The figures that may be flexible will be his dad's fee but the sign on bonus to the player - for not making the buying club pay a huge fee to the club as well as to outbid other teams is what will make him perhaps the most expensive player in history. If you think salary is what will move Mino/Haaland/Erling, you are living in La La Land. Every club that I mentioned can pay him the salary. By the way, Bayern cannot dictate for the market (they paid 72M GBP for a LB/CB in 2019), they either play ball or step aside. You are dealing with a generational talent not Mario Gotze or even Robert Lewandowski. Do you think the only money PSG offered Messi is his 1M/week salary (before taxes)?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 5:15pm On Aug 24, 2021
Yves Bissouma is a CM!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 5:16pm On Aug 24, 2021
Android17:
...And the reason I put -- M for the sign on bonus is because that is where the bidding war will be between the bidding teams. Chelsea wanted to offer 150M GBP for the player - even up to 160M and Dortmund did not budge. Haaland did not cause a ruckus. Rumour mills said Dortmund would have listened at 175M GBP. When you see clubs rather opt to pay 127M GBP (maybe up to 150M GBP for a 28 year old), there must be a reason that others are overlooking.


I enjoy your Analysis, but no way he's gonna cost directly or indirectly more than. £100m, if the release clause is real.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlueAngel444: 5:33pm On Aug 24, 2021
Android17:


lol. The release clause fee goes to the club. Mino's fee is most likely fixed and since Haaland is signed to him, it means Haaland will need to pay him that amount to fire him. The figures that may be flexible will be his dad's fee but the sign on bonus to the player - for not making the buying club pay a huge fee to the club as well as to outbid other teams is what will make him perhaps the most expensive player in history. If you think salary is what will move Mino/Haaland/Erling, you are living in La La Land. Every club that I mentioned can pay him the salary. By the way, Bayern cannot dictate for the market (they paid 72M GBP for a LB/CB in 2019), they either play ball or step aside. You are dealing with a generational talent not Mario Gotze or even Robert Lewandowski. Do you think the only money PSG offered Messi is his 1M/month salary (before taxes)?
like I wrote Bayern could afford 130m – 150m for him, like other teams would, the question is still down to Haaland agreeing to join whichever club. You said Riaola fee is fixed, at the time of Chelsea's bid it was 130m to Dortmund with 30m to Riaola and and about 20 to his Dad, of which Chelsea offered to pay just 40m and was agreed, only left with Dortmund who were refusing to sell.

Haaland interest is Real Madrid, if Madrid don't bite then maybe Bayern or an EPL club, maybe PSG but I doubt that.

Frankly speaking either Dortmund are silly or there isn't a release clause to begin with or the clause is higher and up to €100m as some pointed out.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 5:33pm On Aug 24, 2021
Oasis007:


I enjoy your Analysis, but no way he's gonna cost directly or indirectly more than. £100m, if the release clause is real.

Release clause is what you pay his club. That is not in relation to how much he will cost you to get him. Even if you can pay Dortmund the release clause, other clubs can too. Then you have to be willing to get Mino and his father on board which will now give you access to him. That is what will make him very expensive. Look at it this way, if United offered to pay Grealish's release clause as well, you will have to outbid MCFC for the wages, signon bonus and whatever his agent tells you or else, they will listen to the other club willing to negotiate those terms. That is what those other clubs were avoiding.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:34pm On Aug 24, 2021
elrony:


Make I see if he go bench senior man this weekendcheesy cheesy cheesy

No chance, as only replacement is Daka. E fit switch to 4-4-2.

Kelechi go use Norwich pad him stats quickly before going back to bench grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 5:34pm On Aug 24, 2021
Android17:
There is a reason Dortmund have been silent on that release clause. It is most likely not as low as people think. Be that as it may, there is a reason clubs like Chelsea tried to sign him this season against January when the release clause can be activated for cheaper. The only people to lose out on a huge windfall from Haaland sale will be Dortmund. Here is a speculative breakdown of what the deal will actually be like: Mino Raiola's fees - 50M (to have access to the player), 20M (Haaland's father fees - to convince his son to take your offer), --- M (sign on bonus for Haaland - for signing with your club). That deal will end up being closer to 190M Euros than anything else. Just that only 80M of it will go to Dortmund. MCFC will most likely never go for him because of the hatred between Mino and Pep (by extension MCFC). Real Madrid are going for Mbappe. Chelsea have acquired Lukaku, so the only teams that can meaningfully sign the player are United and Bayern Munich and perhaps Barcelona (if they get their finances in order by some miracle). It won't be as cheap and simplistic as it sounds. Like I said before, there is a reason Real Madrid, MCFC and CFC looked elsewhere.
all the analysis depend on the buying clubs. it has been shown recently that many clubs are no longer open to throwing ridiculous fees about. very few clubs will offer up to £250k weekly.
if that release clause is accurate, then the total fee won't exceed £100m.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:35pm On Aug 24, 2021
Oasis007:
Yves Bissouma is a CM!
No, he isn't...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:36pm On Aug 24, 2021
Oasis007:
Offer Martial plus €30m for Haaland, and see the done with Dortmund.

Will Dortmund agree to pay Martial £250k weekly? grin

United’s major challenge isn’t exactly selling players, it’s if the potential buyers are willing to pay a similar wage to the player in question, or if he’s willing to take a huge pay cut.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 5:38pm On Aug 24, 2021
BlueAngel444:
like I wrote Bayern could afford 130m – 150m for him, like other teams would, the question is still down to Haaland agreeing to join whichever club. You said Riaola fee is fixed, at the time of Chelsea's bid it was 130m to Dortmund with 30m to Riaola and and about 20 to his Dad, of which Chelsea offered to pay just 40m and was agreed, only left with Dortmund who were refusing to sell.

Haaland interest is Real Madrid, if Madrid don't bite then maybe Bayern or an EPL club, maybe PSG but I doubt that

Yes, Mino and his father agreed, you are right. But they agreed for less than the purported fee because they are not in control for now - Dortmund are. They knew the hard part will be meeting Dortmund's demands. But when the new year is upon us, the control goes back to Haaland, so his agent and Dad can charge you more. Real Madrid might be his favorite, but they want Mbappe now. They even want to pay 120M euros even though Kylian has 1 year left and can come to them free. They are resolved to get him this season for 120M euros or wait and get him free next season. They even said they will pay him whatever wages PSG are offering -which is why he has been rejecting PSG. Real Madrid seem to prefer paying for Kylian than Haaland. Because of Mino Raiola.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 5:40pm On Aug 24, 2021
ChristineC:
all the analysis depend on the buying clubs. it has been shown recently that many clubs are no longer open to throwing ridiculous fees about. very few clubs will offer up to £250k weekly.
if that release clause is accurate, then the total fee won't exceed £100m.

Not for Kylian Mbappe or Erling Haaland. Kylian was offered 450k/week after tax in PSG and he is refusing. I am not referring to total fee paid to club for Haaland. I am referring to total fee that it will cost United (for e.g to get him). We will be here next season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 5:42pm On Aug 24, 2021
BlueAngel444:


Frankly speaking either Dortmund are silly or there isn't a release clause to begin with or the clause is higher and up to €100m as some pointed out.

I already said I doubt that release clause figure we have been hearing about.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 5:45pm On Aug 24, 2021
GloryIsaac:


Will Dortmund agree to pay Martial £250k weekly? grin

United’s major challenge isn’t exactly selling players, it’s if the potential buyers are willing to pay a similar wage to the player in question, or if he’s willing to take a huge pay cut.

grin

Sancho at 21yrs old was earning £200k at same Club. Ice Cold is an experienced Lad. A Winner and deadly player on his Day.

£250k shouldn't be a problem, coz he's gonna fit in perfectly into their first XI.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 5:46pm On Aug 24, 2021
patrickmuf:
No, he isn't...

Check credible Sites, he is.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:49pm On Aug 24, 2021
Oasis007:


Check credible Sites, he is.
I watch Brighton enough to know he is a CDM...

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