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Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Bishopkingsley(op): 4:53am On Aug 07, 2021
HedwigesMaduro:
So in Revelation 3 Jesus Christ was referring to Himself when He said "...Temple of My God"? He has a God who is Himself? I don't know about your god, but my God is not an Author of confusion.
Now listen to understand this aspect

God manifest as
The Father

God manifest as
The son

God manifest as
The holy spirit

When God manifest as the Father he has a specific work to do

When he manifest as the son he has a specific work to do

Same applies to the holy spirit

Now as the son he is both God and man

When Jesus was on earth
As God and man who he was
He has to obey all rules as a man

What are the rules the principles of prayer in the old testament states to pray to God

Jesus as a man to has to obey that set up rule
But notice he expanded it more and teach us more on how to pray

Jesus now introduced God to us as the Father and then said any thing you asked the father in my name
I will do it

This principle was not like that in the old testament

Jesus introduced it

Now God (father) calls Jesus God in the Bible too in genesis God called himself us meaning more than one this is God (father) speaking below

Hebrews 1:8
New International Version
But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.

New Living Translation
But to the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever. You rule with a scepter of justice.

English Standard Version
But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.
Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Nobody: 5:30am On Aug 07, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
Now listen to understand this aspect

God manifest as
The Father

God manifest as
The son

God manifest as
The holy spirit

When God manifest as the Father he has a specific work to do

When he manifest as the son he has a specific work to do

Same applies to the holy spirit

Now as the son he is both God and man

When Jesus was on earth
As God and man who he was
He has to obey all rules as a man

What are the rules the principles of prayer in the old testament states to pray to God

Jesus as a man to has to obey that set up rule
But notice he expanded it more and teach us more on how to pray

Jesus now introduced God to us as the Father and then said any thing you asked the father in my name
I will do it

This principle was not like that in the old testament

Jesus introduced it

Now God (father) calls Jesus God in the Bible too in genesis God called himself us meaning more than one this is God (father) speaking below

Hebrews 1:8
New International Version
But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.

New Living Translation
But to the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever. You rule with a scepter of justice.

English Standard Version
But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.
Jesus was not man in Revelation 3. He was already in heaven. Waiting for the next set of mental gymnastics.
Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Bishopkingsley(op): 5:42am On Aug 07, 2021
HedwigesMaduro:
Jesus was not man in Revelation 3. He was already in heaven. Waiting for the next set of mental gymnastics.
My brother for all eternity Jesus will be the God man for generations to generations

This is the mystery that God revealed he wants to be all in all since Adam failed

Jesus will rule as both man and God

This is the vow the oath God made to David and Abraham Jesus is that seed that son of man
Jesus will be
Ruling both in the new heaven and new earth

All this things are in the scriptures
David saw it that why he said the lord said to my lord

Up till now Jesus scars is till on his body
For all eternity the scars with be with him
The price God paid for us was so great
Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Bishopkingsley(op): 9:10am On Aug 07, 2021
God is beautiful when you understand how he works
Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Kingsnairaland(m): 11:17am On Aug 09, 2021
Why are you afraid? Why shiver? Why in a haste? Who is contending with you?
Calm down brother for you said you that you have dealt with white men who were missionaries expecting to be appointed as one of the members of the Governing Body but later turned against the Organization.

I made him cry like a baby until he started begging me to help him return to the organization. So is it you that only read stories in books that's thinking of challenging me


So relax grin
how do one create an account like your own
Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Bishopkingsley(op): 10:33am On Aug 13, 2021
Archangel Michael is not Jesus


His Name Bears Testimony

Michael, the one who is closest in proximity to the Lord at the top of the angelic creation, bears testimony to the great gap between the Creator and the created. His name means, "who is like God?" The answer, of course, is no one. The closer one gets to God, the more they realize their own nothingness and His greatness. Neither Michael, nor any of the angels, is like God.

Summary

There is no biblical evidence to equate Michael the archangel with Jesus. To the contrary, Jesus and Michael are two different personages. Michael is the highest of the angels - an order of created beings while Jesus is the uncreated Second Person of the Trinity, God the Son.

There is a further problem with the identification of Jesus with Michael. The Book of Jude says:

But when the archangel Michael contended with the Devil and disputed about the body of Moses, he did not dare to bring a condemnation of slander against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" (Jude 9).

Michael is obviously not the Lord. He could not rebuke the Devil on his own, but rather called upon the Lord to rebuke him. Jesus has no such problem with the Devil - He personally rebuked him, since He is the Lord.

Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.' " Then the Devil left Him, and behold, angels came and began to minister to Him (Matthew 4:10,11).

There is a further problem with the identification of Jesus with Michael. The Book of Jude says:

But when the archangel Michael contended with the Devil and disputed about the body of Moses, he did not dare to bring a condemnation of slander against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" (Jude 9).

Michael is obviously not the Lord. He could not rebuke the Devil on his own, but rather called upon the Lord to rebuke him. Jesus has no such problem with the Devil - He personally rebuked him, since He is the Lord.

Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.' " Then the Devil left Him, and behold, angels came and began to minister to Him (Matthew 4:10,11).

Michael Highest Of Angels

Michael is the highest of the angels - an order of created beings. He is one of the angels, he is not the Creator of the angels as the Bible says that Jesus is.

for by Him all things in heaven and on earth were created, things visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or powers - all things have been created through Him and for Him (Colossians 1:16).

Though Michael has protected Israel, it is as God's representative. It is ultimately the Lord, not Michael, who is protecting His chosen people.

Voice Like

The fact that Christ comes with the voice, or cry of command, like an archangel does not mean that He is one. The voice He uses will be "like" or "as" that of an archangel. In other words, a powerful voice.

The biblical evidence does not substantiate this. The fact that Michael is called a chief prince only means that he has authority over other angels- not over everything that exists.
In addition, Jesus is never called the chief prince in Scripture. On the contrary He is the king of kings and Lord of Lords.
Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Nancy2020(f): 8:04am On Aug 27, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
I know my own Jesus and his people are JWs globally! smiley
is it true that you said JW group can save human being?
Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Janosky: 12:28pm On Aug 27, 2021
HedwigesMaduro:
Jesus was not man in Revelation 3. He was already in heaven. Waiting for the next set of mental gymnastics.
Bishop's Hebrews 1:8 was fabricated by Trinitarians to suit themselves.
The Screenshots of Hebrew Masoretic Text @ Psalms 45;6-7 is strong evidence which must be the real quote in Hebrews 1:8.
Masoretic Text is far older than ALL English Bibles.
Check Psalms 45:6-7 at The Message Bible, GNT Bible, Catholic Jerusalem Bible & see for yourself.
Compare same with Hebrews 1:8 in those aforementioned Bible versions.
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Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Janosky: 12:32pm On Aug 27, 2021
Nancy2020:
is it true that you said JW group can save human being?
When and where did he do so?
You can Google "Jehovah's witnesses Official website" to learn more.
Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Bishopkingsley(op): 12:36pm On Aug 27, 2021
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Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Nancy2020(f): 12:39pm On Aug 27, 2021
Janosky:
When and where did he do so?
You can Google "Jehovah's witnesses Official website" to learn more.
Forget about GOOGLE they say Jehovah's W will never answer any questions because they are not truthful to themselves and to others let me see if it true.
Is it JW that saves human beings or is it Jesus that saves humanity?
Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Janosky: 12:42pm On Aug 27, 2021
Nancy2020:
Forget about GOOGLE they say Jehovah's W will never answer any questions because they are not truthful to themselves and to others let me see if it true.
Is it JW that saves human beings or is it Jesus that saves humanity?
Is John 3:16 and 1 John 4:14 in your Bible?
That is what JWs believe.
Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Nancy2020(f): 12:43pm On Aug 27, 2021
Janosky:
Is John 3:16 and 1 John 4:14 in your Bible?
That is what JWs believe.
no need now I believe what they tell me about JW.
Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Janosky: 12:49pm On Aug 27, 2021
Nancy2020:
no need now I believe what they tell me about JW.
You believe what 1 John 4:14 and John 3:16 tells you or you believe Bishop LIENUS fictitious claims.
Make your choice, Nancy.
Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Nancy2020(f): 12:55pm On Aug 27, 2021
Janosky:
You believe what 1 John 4:14 and John 3:16 tells you or you believe Bishop LIENUS fictitious claims.
Make your choice, Nancy.
I even read that when JW write a verse from the Bible they won't write down what it says because the verse they wrote always has no relationship to what they say. But my question is stated above.
Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Bishopkingsley(op): 1:00pm On Aug 27, 2021
Nancy2020:
I even read that when JW write a verse from the Bible they won't write down what it says because the verse they wrote always has no relationship to what they say. But my question is stated above.
The reason is they can write John 2:1
And tell you we are JW we abide by it now they don't know what that place says or they will not write it for you to see their error the reason is so that you will think they actually believe in the Bible which they actually don't
Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Nancy2020(f): 1:05pm On Aug 27, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
The reason is they can write John 2:1
And tell you we are JW we abide by it now they don't know what that place says or they will not write it for you to see their error the reason is so that you will think they actually believe in the Bible which they actually don't
the internet exposes many flaws in their character without here I won't notice how they avoid writing down the Bible verse they quote.
Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Janosky: 1:06pm On Aug 27, 2021
Nancy2020:
I even read that when JW write a verse from the Bible they won't write down what it says because the verse they wrote always has no relationship to what they say. But my question is stated above.
I have given you John 3:16 & 1 John 4:14 "God sent His Son as Saviour of the world".

Nancy, you are proven that SENSE far from you.

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Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Nancy2020(f): 1:09pm On Aug 27, 2021
Janosky:
I have given you John 3:16 & 1 John 4:14 "God sent His Son as Saviour of the world".

Nancy, you are proven that SENSE far from you.

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like I said your running up and down like the devil.
When I go to church they say no one or group can save you except Jesus Christ
This is my question to you

is it true that you said JW group can save human being?
Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Janosky: 1:10pm On Aug 27, 2021
Nancy2020:
the internet exposes many flaws in their character without here I won't notice how they avoid writing down the Bible verse they quote.
Even though she read John 3:16 & 1John 4:14, she prefers to type GIBBERISH.
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Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Nancy2020(f): 1:14pm On Aug 27, 2021
Janosky:
Even though she read John 3:16 & 1John 4:14, she prefers to type GIBBERISH.
grin cheesy
you act like the devil because you don't know God that is why you are not bold. You are truly of your father the devil bye for now let me attend to important things.
Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Bishopkingsley(op): 1:16pm On Aug 27, 2021
Nancy2020:
you act like the devil because you don't know God that is why you are not bold. You are truly of your father the devil bye for now let me attend to important things.
Let me write down what they are afraid to write

John 3:1-8
King James Version
3 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.


1 John 4:14
King James Version
14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Bishopkingsley(op): 1:18pm On Aug 27, 2021
Nancy2020:
you act like the devil because you don't know God that is why you are not bold. You are truly of your father the devil bye for now let me attend to important things.
Question
that is why you are not bold.

Answer
They are not bold because they tell weak minds that JW is the group that can save their lives

But they will quote the Bible to look like they believe in the Bible
Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Janosky: 1:39pm On Aug 27, 2021
Nancy2020:
like I said your running up and down like the devil.
When I go to church they say no one or group can save you except Jesus Christ
This is my question to you

is it true that you said JW group can save human being?
You don't seem to understand 1 John4:14 and John 3:16, that's your problem.
John 9:4 Jesus and the the disciples are working for JEHOVAH, the God & Father of Jesus Christ, John 20:17.

Acts 15:14,17 , this group are chosen to bear Jehovah's name.
Have you removed these verses from your Bible?
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Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Janosky: 1:41pm On Aug 27, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
Let me write down what they are afraid to write

John 3:1-8
King James Version
3 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.


1 John 4:14
King James Version
14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
Bishop LIENUS quotes what he neither explains nor understands.
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Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Janosky: 1:46pm On Aug 27, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
Question
that is why you are not bold.

Answer
They are not bold because they tell weak minds that JW is the group that can save their lives

But they will quote the Bible to look like they believe in the Bible
John 17:6-7, According to Jesus, who owns the group?
Jehovah God his Father.
Have you removed Isaiah 43:10-12, John9:4, Acts15:14,17 from your Bible?

2 Chronicles 7:14, the people JEHOVAH chosen to bear His name. Acts 15:14,17.
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Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Bishopkingsley(op): 1:50pm On Aug 27, 2021
Janosky:
John 17:6-7, According to Jesus, who owns the group?
Jehovah God his Father.
Have you removed Isaiah 43:10-12, John9:4, Acts15:14,17 from your Bible?

2 Chronicles 7:14, the people JEHOVAH chosen to bear His name. Acts 15:14,17.
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Read
Matthew 1:7,2:6,3:6,4:2,2:1,3:1
John 1:7,2:6,3:6,4:2,2:1,3:1
Mark 1:7,2:6,3:6,4:2,2:1,3:1
Luke1:7,2:6,3:6,4:2,2:1,3:1

To understand the name Jehovah witness is not in the Bible and to see who to believe in
Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Bishopkingsley(op): 1:52pm On Aug 27, 2021
Janosky:
John 17:6-7, According to Jesus, who owns the group?
Jehovah God his Father.
Have you removed Isaiah 43:10-12, John9:4, Acts15:14,17 from your Bible?

2 Chronicles 7:14, the people JEHOVAH chosen to bear His name. Acts 15:14,17.
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Janosky
LIENUS quotes what he neither explains nor understands.
Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Janosky: 2:26pm On Aug 27, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
Question
that is why you are not bold.

Answer
They are not bold because they tell weak minds that JW is the group that can save their lives

But they will quote the Bible to look like they believe in the Bible
Continue typing GIBBERISH.
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Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Janosky: 2:29pm On Aug 27, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
Janosky
LIENUS quotes what he neither explains nor understands.
Because you have removed John 17:6-7, Isaiah 43:10-12, John9:4, Acts15:14,17 & 2 Chronicles 7:14 from your Bible.

Bishop & LYING na 5 & 6.
Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Janosky: 2:33pm On Aug 27, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
Read
Matthew 1:7,2:6,3:6,4:2,2:1,3:1
John 1:7,2:6,3:6,4:2,2:1,3:1
Mark 1:7,2:6,3:6,4:2,2:1,3:1
Luke1:7,2:6,3:6,4:2,2:1,3:1

To understand the name Jehovah witness is not in the Bible and to see who to believe in
Matthew 1:7
"Solomon the father of Rehoboam,

Rehoboam the father of Abijah,

Abijah the father of Asa"


Bishop LIENUS how does Matthew 1:7 relate to the name JEHOVAH'S Witnesses?

This is the GIBBERISH you have been feeding Nancy2020.
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Re: ⚫⚫ Trinity... Bible Proves That Jesus Is God by Bishopkingsley(op): 3:23pm On Aug 27, 2021
Janosky:
Because you have removed John 17:6-7, Isaiah 43:10-12, John9:4, Acts15:14,17 & 2 Chronicles 7:14 from your Bible.

Bishop & LYING na 5 & 6.
Janosky LIENUS how does John 17:6-7, Isaiah 43:10-12, John9:4, Acts15:14,17 & 2 Chronicles 7:14 relate to the name JEHOVAH'S Witnesses?

This is the GIBBERISH you have been feeding people and what Your GB feeds u
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