Barristter07:

Psalm 89:6,7 none of the Sons of God is like Jehovah. Rest, as long as Jesus bears " Son" . He is not like Jehovah

Your father bears son too because your grand father calls him son but that does not mean he is not your father
Have you forgotten Jesus is called everlasting father too

achorladey:


Some of their books that members will use as reference when making presentations after the presentation that particular member will be called back and corrected for using such reference.

Na when dey know the book contains what they cannot defend they recall them quick quick and some destroyed paapaa.

"Continue to readjust, improve yourself".

You no see am for your Bible?

How many centuries did it take your Trinitarian mentors to formulate the GIBBERISH DECEIVING you?

Achorladey brain no dey where God put am.
Bros, Know this & calm down.

Bishopkingsley:


Your father bears son too because your grand father calls him son but that does not mean he is not your father
Have you forgotten Jesus is called everlasting father too

Was Jesus called "everlasting father"
@ Genesis?

Bishop proven himself LIENUS.

Emusan:


Says the ignorance who doesn't know Trinity has been around before 5th century



50 AD The Huleatt Manuscript
74AD The Letter of Barnabas
80AD Herman
140AD Aristides
150AD Justin Martyr
150AD Polycarp of Smyrna
160AD Mathetes
170AD Tatian the Syrian
177AD Athenagoras
177AD Melito of Sardis
180AD Theophilus of Antioch
180AD Ireneaus
190AD Clement of Alexandria

To list few who taught and wrote about early Christians belief in Trinity.


The same lie your organization propagated in their publication "Should you believe in Trinity?" before it was taken down because of people's reaction.

I thought since your light is brighter than them you should know better but alas you people still stuck in the same old light



History will cure your ignorance when you know the teaching of Trinity predated Constantine

Just as The book Crucifixion—The Archaeological Evidence: By Vassilios Tzaferis exposes the lie of your organization that Jesus died on a STAKE when in history neither Jews nor Roman who crucified Jesus ever used pole to crucify anyone.

AD , many years after Jesus died and his apostles were no more
How many centuries did it take your Trinitarian mentors to formulate the GIBBERISH DECEIVING you?


John 19:6 Bill Mounce Greek Interlinear and Complete Jewish Bible as well as Secular history proven Emusan LIENUS wey lack SENSE.
Your SENSE no tell you say Crux is a Latin invention unknown to the Greek & Aramaic speaking world of Jesus days.
Jehovah's servants , John & others never had any symbol of Jesus impaled.

Greek stauros , upright stake/ pole is NOT pagan cross with a traverse beam.


Emusan LIENUS continue DECEIVING yourself.
Pagans pretending to be Christian

Did Christ die on a cross or a stake?

The most famous person crucified was Jesus Christ. For approximately two thousand years a cross – with or without a body on it – has been the main symbol of Christians of all denominations and in all countries.

It was also a symbol used by the 'Bible Students', an organisation founded by Charles T. Russell in Pennsylvania in 1879. In 1931 this organisation adopted the title 'Jehovah's Witnesses'.

In 1921 they published the book The Harp of God, which has the subtitle 'Proof Conclusive that Millions now Living will Never Die'. By the time of the 1925 edition they had printed more than two million copies (precisely 2,327,000, according to the first page). On page 114 of this book there is a picture (see right), which occupies the whole page, of Christ being crucified on a cross, with the sign written by Pontius Pilate nailed above his head.

But in a change of doctrine, the Jehovah's Witnesses now say that Christ was not crucified; they say that he died on a pole or a stake. It goes without saying that this will astound not only millions of Christians around the world, but also historians. There have been and there still are those who reject the idea of the resurrection of Christ, but up until now practically no-one had doubted His death, nor the means of his execution.

Crucifixion consisted of forming a cross with two wooden beams, one vertical and the other horizontal. The person condemned to death was nailed to the cross, with nails through his hands or wrists and through his feet. The cross was placed in a hole in the ground, with the condemned person hanging by his hands. This usually caused death by asphyxiation, although sometimes people being crucified took days to die. The only respite, to help himself to breathe, was that the condemned person could (as long as he had strength!) push with his feet in order to raise the body a little and thus reduce the force with which the extended arms were pulling, constricting the chest, and in this way it was possible to take a further breath. Sometimes, when a person who was being crucified was taking a long time to die, the Romans broke his legs, and thus he was no longer able to raise his body and so died sooner from asphyxiation – although in many cases the trauma that was caused to the whole body by crucifixion would bring about death before the legs were broken or asphyxiation caused death.

However, the Jehovah's Witnesses now claim that this is not how Christ died. In this article we will look at the evidence that they allege supports this claim and other relevant evidence.

https://www.bethinking.org/jehovahs-witnesses/did-christ-die-on-a-cross-or-a-stake

Janosky:

[b]AD , many years after Jesus died and his apostles were no more
How many centuries did it take your Trinitarian mentors to formulate the GIBBERISH DECEIVING you?[

If it was a stake the Roman military men won't ask if those on the stake were dead because stake death is very fast and quick

Read in your Bible the military men asked if those hung are dead they broke the leg of the other men beside Jesus when they came to Jesus read what happened

Janosky:

"Continue to readjust, improve yourself".

You no see am for your Bible?

How many centuries did it take your Trinitarian mentors to formulate the GIBBERISH DECEIVING you?

Achorladey brain no dey where God put am.
Bros, Know this & calm down.

Out of the the abundance of his hearts, his mouth speaks and fingers type this time.......

Achorladey brain no dey where God put am

Be grateful for yours then abi, this is my personal copy that has been making my lies and false claims used by you as TRUTH

Then went further....

How many centuries did it take your Trinitarian mentors to formulate the GIBBERISH DECEIVING you?......Janosky

This is what the TRINITARIAN MENTORS help your founding fathers formulate below which are 100% APOSTATES, GIBBERISH DECEIVING and still DECEIVING since it is on such basis JEHOVAH declared the organisation your founding fathers set up and you belong as TRUE CHRISTIANS . See below....


Watchtower of November 1,1917, published a year after Russell’s death,
contained an article titled: “A Tribute to the Seventh Messenger.” In part,

For the other five epochs of the Church, the Lord provided messengers in the order named;

St. John, Arius, Waldo, Wycliffe and Luther.

Each in his turn bore the message (TRINITY, IMMORALITY THE OF SOUL, HELL FIRE e.t.c due to be understood during the epoch he represented.

The two most prominent messengers, however, are the first and the last: St. Paul and Pastor Russell

Continue to readjust, improve yourself".............

Yes continue to readjust, improve yourself based on what your religious leaders teaches you and whose foundations are steeped deep in the works of their TRINITARIAN mentors

freshboi88:


Your new world translation perverted bible calls u a liar.

Rev 5: 13 And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and underneath the earth+ and on the sea, and all the things in them, saying: “To the One sitting on the throne+ and to the Lamb+ be the blessing and the honor+ and the glory and the might forever and ever.”+ 14 The four living creatures were saying: “Amen!” and the elders fell down and worshipped.

1. Why does the NWT say Jesus is not part of every creature ? NWT or JW G.B who do we believe now ?

2. Why does the NWT say Jesus receives d same glory, praise, honor, worship and might with Jehovah ?

NWT= Jesus receives the same glory, praise, worship , honor that Jehovah receives

JW G.B= Jesus is not to be worshiped.

Confused religion.........

Maybe you should add this to the question above.

1. What is the difference or similarity between "ALL THINGS" and ALL OTHER THINGS" as captured in their NWT

2. What is the difference between not one thing came into existence and by means of him all other things were made to exist



John 1: 3 All things came into existence through him,+ and apart from him not even one thing came into existence.

and

Colossians 1: 16,17 because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible,+ whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him+ and for him. 17 Also, he is before all other things,+ and by means of him all other things were made to exist,

freshboi88:


Bla bla bla................exact representation: Meaning: Correct in every detail.

How can an finite Jesus be the exact representation of an infinite Jehovah?

Oya answer this one now

Thank God for the bold. No escape for fraudsters.

Bishopkingsley:


Your father bears son too because your grand father calls him son but that does not mean he is not your father
Have you forgotten Jesus is called everlasting father too

Because he came from someone as well


Son simply means someone Create/procreate you.

That's the point. Jesus was created

Consider this: Why is the Father not ever addressed as " son " ?

livingchrist:
ask yourself if you make sense.
Is flesh and blood appearance? Adam was not created with sin going by your logic Adam is only an appearance? Right

He was made to be like his brother's, whom have sin in their flesh. Either he pick that nature which is the qualities of a person or he only took their form/Appearance .

One must be true.

Barrister Daniel 7:14 is a vision of future event

Before that Future , he has no authority.

Barristter07:


Because he came from someone as well


Son simply means someone Create/procreate you.

That's the point. Jesus was created

Consider this: Why is the Father not ever addressed as " son " ?

Until you understand who you are before you can understand God

You are not only a body

You are soul, body, spirit

If you don't understand this you won't understand who created you and said you are his image

Bishopkingsley:


Until you understand who you are before you can understand God

You are not only a body

You are soul, body, spirit

If you don't understand this you won't understand who created you and said you are his image

Bishop LIENUS, Is God body ,soul and spirit?

Question wey dey blow Bishop LIENUS:
"Consider this: Why is the Father not ever addressed as " son " ?"

Bishop LIENUS begin yarn GIBBERISH.

Janosky:

Bishop LIENUS, Is God body ,soul and spirit?

Question wey dey blow Bishop LIENUS:
"Consider this: Why is the Father not ever addressed as " son " ?"

Bishop LIENUS begin yarn GIBBERISH.

As long as you don't understand who you are you can't understand God

achorladey:


Maybe you should add this to the question above.

1. What is the difference or similarity between "ALL THINGS" and ALL OTHER THINGS" as captured in their NWT

2. What is the difference between not one thing came into existence and by means of him all other things were made to exist



John 1: 3 All thingscame into existence through him,+ and apart from him not even one thing came into existence.

and

Colossians 1: 16,17 because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible,+ whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him+ and for him. 17 Also, he is before all other things+ and by means of [/b]him all other things were made to exist,

[b] Colossians 1:16-17, John 1:3, 1 Cor 8:6, Greek Dia, "by means of"/through him"

Bill Mounce your Trinity mentor proven Jesus is the instrumentality/Medium/Agency for Creation.
Jesus is NOT the Creator.
God his Father is the Creator,1Corinthians 8:6 confirmed


John 1:3 & Colossians 1:16-17, 1 Cor 8:6, Bill Mounce Greek interlinear proven Achorladey wrong.

Achorladey brain no dey where God put am.

Bishopkingsley:


[s]As long as you don't understand who you are you can't understand God[/s]

You know nah nah !
Stop DECEIVING yourself typing GIBBERISH.

Bishopkingsley:

My beloved brother this is not finger of God this is the spirit of God his name is the holy spirit

[s]God is in three dimensions just like he created man in three dimensions

Until you understand this truth before you can know how God functions

God did not create Jesus because Jesus is already God[/s]

Luke 11:20
"But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come on you.

Exodus 8:19
Then the magicians said unto Pharaoh, This is the finger of God: and Pharaoh's heart was hardened, and he hearkened not unto them; as Jehovah had said.

Matthew 12:28
But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you."

Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28, we confirmed Jesus Christ is NOT LYING.

But you are proven LIENUS Bishop.

Janosky:

You know nah nah !
Stop DECEIVING yourself typing GIBBERISH.

Until you understand how God created you then you can easily understand how God is without stress

Bishopkingsley:


Until you understand who you are before you can understand God

You are not only a body

You are soul, body, spirit

If you don't understand this you won't understand who created you and said you are his image

Again " Son " indicate a beginning. Jesus have a beginning like other " Sons of God "

And we are created in the image of one single person, The Father. Not three persons. So your Analogy slip right into the gutter. Everyone created are called " Sons " of that one single person.

Barristter07:


Again " Son " indicate a beginning. Jesus have a beginning like other " Sons of God "

And we are created in the image of one single person, The Father. Not three persons. So your Analogy slip right into the gutter. Everyone created are called " Sons " of that one single person.

Do you know you as a man

What make a total man.
Is body soul and spirit

Bishopkingsley:


Do you know you as a man

What make a total man.
Is body soul and spirit

Define each . Let's start from there

Janosky:


Luke 11:20
"But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come on you.

Exodus 8:19
Then the magicians said unto Pharaoh, This is the finger of God: and Pharaoh's heart was hardened, and he hearkened not unto them; as Jehovah had said.

Matthew 12:28
But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you."

Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28, we confirmed Jesus Christ is NOT LYING.

But you are proven LIENUS Bishop.

You don't know everything about God is God you can't understand it till you understand who you are

Barristter07:


Define each . Let's start from there

Now your body is a man
Your spirit is a man
Your soul is a man

All three is equally a man

Are you seeing it

Bishopkingsley:


[s]Until you understand how God created you then you can easily understand how God is without stress[/s]

Because Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28 proven you're LYING.

Janosky:


Because Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28 proven you're LYING.

Stop acting like a cult when you write a verse state what it says so people will see you are talking what makes sense

Bishopkingsley:


Now your body is a man
Your spirit is a man
Your soul is a man

All three is equally a man

Are you seeing it

Spirit doesn't have flesh and bones, so how does your own spirit becomes a man ?

KNOWMORE56:


This your explanations..., is it taken from the Word or from Watch Tower?

Because the Word reveals something like OF HIM, Jesus ( i.e His resources) FOR HIM ( He's the Owner of the things created):

*. Colossians 1:16 "KJV:For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: "

*. Romans 11:36 "KJV:For OF HIM, and THROUGH HIM, and TO HIM, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

Glory be to Jesus for ever and ever. Amen!

KNOWMORE56 is a nice guy, I like him.
But , he's been very good at twisting the holy scriptures.

Here is the evidence.
#1.
Bill Mounce, his fellow Trinitarian devotee, proven that Greek Dia meaning "by means of"/"through" references Jesus Christ as "instrumentality/Agency/Medium for Creation @ John 1:3, Colossians 1:16 & 1 Cor 8:6.
1 Corinthians 8:6 & Ephesians 4:6 ,3:14-15 proven God his "Father of ALL" is the Creator.


#2.
Romans 11:33,35-36 refers to God his Father.

Romans 11:33
"Oh, how great are God’s riches and wisdom and knowledge! How impossible it is for us to understand his decisions and his ways!

Romans 11:35-36
And who has given him so much that he needs to pay it back? For everything comes from him and exists by his power and is intended for his glory. All glory to him forever! Amen"

1 Corinthians 8:6= Romans 11:36 & John 17:7
" Everything comes from God" his Father.
John 17:7 Jesus Christ confess it!

Barristter07:
I challenge you to provide where I said he command them FROM HEAVEN?

Where will Jesus commanded them from?

Ole....despite the fact that I exposed your lying mouth, you still have mouth to talk.

The Fact remains Christ has no authority over humans before coming to earth - Daniel 7:14. He is not their God.

He is your creator!
His uphold the whole universe without His power.
He is eternal life.
And many more.....

The same Daniel 7:14 says you and your father the devil will SERVE Jesus

Barristter07:


Spirit doesn't have flesh and bones, so how does your own spirit becomes a man ?

2 Corinthians 4:16
Therefore we do not lose heart, but though our outer man is decaying, yet our inner man is being renewed day by day.

2 Corinthians 4:16
New Living Translation
That is why we never give up. Though our bodies are dying, our spirits are being renewed every day.

I put two translation to help u understand better

Look at what God is saying here that there are two types of man he explain here note here did not explain the third part here speaks of two part the outer man called the body of man
And the inner man called the spirit of the man Are you seeing what God is saying here

God is saying through Paul that the spirit in the man which is a man
can be renewed but the outer man the body which is a man
he call the body man that that outer man can decay and die


So God explains two man inside one man
Are you seeing how deep God creation is

Your spirit looks like you only spirit can touch spirit but it looks like you

Bishopkingsley:


Stop acting like a cult when you write a verse state what it says so people will see you are talking what makes sense

Sifia pained Bishop

Bishop, continue LYING.
The ink of your LYING is still fresh in this thread.

The screenshot and scriptures confirm that.
Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28 holy spirit is God's finger, according to Jesus Christ

Janosky:

Sifia pained Bishop

Bishop, continue LYING.
The ink of your LYING is still fresh in this thread.

The screenshot and scriptures confirm that.
Luke 11:20 & Matthew 12:28 holy spirit is God's finger, according to Jesus Christ

Let take it step by step

Let start from you do you know you
Are

Body soul and spirit

Janosky:

AD , many years after Jesus died and his apostles were no more
How many centuries did it take your Trinitarian mentors to formulate the GIBBERISH DECEIVING you?

At least the evidence is that Trinity predated Constantine which your lying organization always propagated.

And if this people who lived close to the time of Jesus can say the early Christians worshipped Jesus along side of Father, is it your lying organization who came thousand years after the scene we should believe?

Mr JaNosense the lying liar JWs like his father the devil.

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John 19:6 Bill Mounce Greek Interlinear and Complete Jewish Bible as well as Secular history proven Emusan LIENUS wey lack SENSE.

Despite the fact that you quoted Mounce Greek where it's written boldly [b]"CRUCIFY HIM" you can still be calling it as your witness

When you know the word CRUCIFY was derived from CRUX

Secular history indeed!

can you provide the secular history that says Roman Empire killed anyone ON A STAKE?

Your SENSE no tell you say Crux is a Latin invention unknown to the Greek & Aramaic speaking world of Jesus days.
Jehovah's servants , John & others never had any symbol of Jesus impaled.

Greek stauros , upright stake/ pole is NOT pagan cross with a traverse beam.
[/b]

Emusan LIENUS continue DECEIVING yourself.
Pagans pretending to be Christian

Reason why the lying liar couldn't answer my questions.

Here are they again:
1. Who killed Jesus? Jews or Roman?
2. Has Roman ever killed anyone on pole or stake? Provide the evidence.

Even the Deu 21:22 you always run to doesn't favour you, I'll expose your ignorance on this if you try to say nonsense on this.

Lastly, even the Jews never used crucifixion as capital punishment. The Jews only have four capital punishments: stoning, burning, decapitation, and strangulation.

So how can Jesus be killed on a pole when neither the Jews and Romans used pole to kill anyone

Enjoy your delusion and lies