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Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by livingchrist: 3:30pm On Sep 11, 2021
Janosky:


Who owns the form/image?

Is Colossians 2:9 referencing which form?
earthly form or his Spiritual form?
Gen 1vv26 that image is the image of the Trinity and that image is Christ himself.

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Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by livingchrist: 3:32pm On Sep 11, 2021
Barristter07:

Very incoherent
Greek Morphe ( outward appearance ) appear at Philippians 2 , Yes ?

morphe mean more than just appearance. It includes all the essential qualities that defines a being.

Infact that is where the word morph came from.
A Caterpillar morphs into a butterfly, when a Caterpillar morphs into a butterfly ,it dont just posses the appearance of butterfly but it's full nature.

That is how to understand the greek word 'morphe' Jesus being in the 'morphe' of God mean he possesses God's full attribute that makes God who he is.
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by livingchrist: 3:36pm On Sep 11, 2021
Barristter07:


Finally , you are able to understand the bold. That flesh and blood is what is referred to as Appearance. Learn to comprehend

Likewise Jesus is not like the Father in every way, He only exist in his FORM. That's the point of Philippians 2

FORM


" the visible shape or configuration of something. "
"the form, colour, and texture of the tree"
Similar:
shape
configuration
formation
conformation
structure
construction
arrangement
disposition
appearance
outward form/appearance

exterior
contours
lines
outline
silhouette
profile
design
format
cut
pattern
mould

2.
a particular way in which a thing exists or appears.


OXFORD DiCTIONARY






You are a liar.
I ask you again for the umpteenth time is Adam just an appearance.
So you mean Jesus was just an appearance, who ate, was hungry, slept and died?

@bolded Jesus said all the father his his own, including his throne which is represent the father's authority, Jesus is God Almighty, that is the truth no matter how you hate him, he is your God, your creator and you will bow to him, you have no say in this.
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by livingchrist: 3:38pm On Sep 11, 2021
Barristter07:


He was made to be like his brother's, whom have sin in their flesh. Either he pick that nature which is the qualities of a person or he only took their form/Appearance .

One must be true.



Before that Future , he has no authority.
It is a future of Christ receiving authority after he put down his authority for the sake of the work of salvation.
You cant stand against the truth, nor can you do anything against it.

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Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Barristter07: 7:42pm On Sep 11, 2021
livingchrist:

It is a future of Christ receiving authority after

Interesting. Truth prevail. Receiving shows he was given.



he put down his authority for the sake of the work of salvation.
You cant stand against the truth, nor can you do anything against it.

How can he put down what he doesn't have in the first place ? Don't you just confess his authority is future ? Not something he had before coming to earth ?
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Barristter07: 7:44pm On Sep 11, 2021
livingchrist:
I ask you again for the umpteenth time is Adam just an appearance.
So you mean Jesus was just an appearance, who ate, was hungry, slept and died?

@bolded Jesus said all the father his his own, including his throne which is represent the father's authority, Jesus is God Almighty, that is the truth no matter how you hate him, he is your God, your creator and you will bow to him, you have no say in this.

Nowhere is Jesus called God Almighty. God Almighty cannot have a God. Almighty is not given authority. Again Son of God is not like God himself. Psalm 89:6,7

They are miles apart. So existing in Divine nature doesn't mean same inner qualities.
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Barristter07: 7:46pm On Sep 11, 2021
livingchrist:
morphe mean more than just appearance. It includes all the essential qualities that defines a being.

Infact that is where the word morph came from.
A Caterpillar morphs into a butterfly, when a Caterpillar morphs into a butterfly ,it dont just posses the appearance of butterfly but it's full nature.


That is how to understand the greek word 'morphe' Jesus being in the 'morphe' of God mean he possesses God's full attribute that makes God who he is.

Just as he possess the full attributes of his brothers which is sin and imperfect when he took their Form ?

You see you are an hypocrite. Shame on you

Sons of God like Jesus are never like God ( Psalm 89:6,7)
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Barristter07: 7:49pm On Sep 11, 2021
livingchrist:
"in every way" the previous verses has made what that every way clear.

evil qualities does not make one human.
The right context is Jesus was made in every way that made his brethren humans.

Nothing like that.

You said and I quote " morphe mean more than just appearance. It includes all the essential qualities that defines a being . " - livingchrist


What are the essential qualities of Jesus brothers ? Imperfections , Sinful body ?

You have no place to hide . Your definition of morphe must satisfy both sides. He must possess their full qualities as well !
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by KNOWMORE56: 7:53pm On Sep 11, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Parents gives birth to children so the children relatively becomes their responsibility.
Why is it that a parent will be arrested for taking the life of his own child? smiley

I don't how this relates to Jesus being the creator of all ( not some) things.

Since you can't undo what the Bible say about Jesus being the person through whom all other things were created. It's evident that someone greater than Jesus is our Grand Creator.

If you use someone to do your job will he take possession?

If God's word now says all things were created through him and for him

The Bible says OF HIM meaning the sources and resources are His; He was the One who created all things using His resources and He created these things for Himself:

*. John 1:1 "KJV:In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2
KJV:The same was in the beginning with God.
3
KJV: All things were made by him ; and without him was not any thing made that was made."

*. Colossians 1:16 "KJV: For by him were all things created , that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, AND FOR HIM : "

*. Romans 11:36 "KJV: For OF HIM, and THROUGH HIM , and TO
*. John 1:1 "KJV:In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2
KJV:The same was in the beginning with God.
3
KJV: All things were made by him ; and without him was not any thing made that was made."

Through whom?

Through God...

*. Colossians 1:16 "KJV: For by him were all things created , that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, AND FOR HIM : "

*. Romans 11:36 "KJV: For OF HIM, [/u]and THROUGH HIM , and TO HIM, are all things : to whom be glory for ever. Amen"

*. Revelations 4:11 "KJV:Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: [u]for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created
"
Again: aeroplane was invented BY the Wright brothers; who invented the aeroplane?

, it simply means God can stay alone without those other things and remain happy {1Timothy 1:11} but God wanted His son to be happy always that's why He taught him the work of creation for the Son to be happy always in the things he is able to make out of the great wisdom of his FATHER:

B for Bible and b for brain; keep your brain but give me the Bible...

Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him; Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men. Proverbs 8:30-31

It's evident that JEHOVAH created all other things through His only begotten Son for the Son to continue rejoicing in the things made! smiley

Answer the question below

Since He is the only Being created by the Father, and the speaker in Proverbs 8 says:

Proverbs 8:26 "KJV: While as yet he had not made the earth [b], nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
27
KJV: When [b] he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
28
KJV: When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
29
KJV: When he gave to the sea his decree, [b/] that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:

Who is this He, is it Jesus speaking of the Father or another being speaking of Jesus, "the creator of all other things"?
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Barristter07: 7:54pm On Sep 11, 2021
livingchrist:
it does not, All things can be used in a restricted manner.

what applies? Is flesh and blood a appearance? Is Adam an appearance? Until you answer these questions your submission will be dismissed.

" MADE IN EVERY WAY " does not allow for exception of sin. You are trying to be fraudulent grin

It's either it included all their imperfect qualities or you rest and admit it's just their form/ outer Appearance



Angel's means servant so, hebrews said they servants.

Keep repeating nonsense to yourself.
Open your ears
" Form of servant "

Show me where Angels are described with that ?

They are never because they ain't humans.
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Barristter07: 7:58pm On Sep 11, 2021
Janosky:

To you, Emusan , is the "US" not your 3 persons deities? grin grin

Emusan claims the "US" is 3 persons, his 3 co equal Gods together.
My question :
Emusan is your holy ghost "THEY"?
How many persons is your oly ghost?

Wahala for Trinity GIBBERISH. grin
Questions for Emusan:
#1
Since it's only your 3 co equal Gods together.
Why is your oly ghost not close to JEHOVAH?

#2
Why must Jesus be brought to JEHOVAH when your Jesus is co equal to JEHOVAH?

#3
Job 2:1, Job 1:6,Job 38:7 is the only true God Jehovah living alone in heaven with his 2 co equal Gods?


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Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Barristter07: 8:02pm On Sep 11, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


Is it charm or a strong delusions placed on them or is it stupidity that they can not see that there is no organization in the Bible

How can someone trust a man more than God

My church or pastor can not even open his mouth to say that rubbish because he knows no one will believe him how can they then believe that from an organization which changes their predictions like we change our
Under wear

Your delusion is very Strong. Show me one single place where I replied you with A man said ? Your points were replied using the scripture, isn't it ?
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:25pm On Sep 11, 2021
KNOWMORE56:

Who is this He, is it Jesus speaking of the Father or another being speaking of Jesus, "the creator of all other things"?

HE is JEHOVAH and Jesus is the one speaking.

Jesus did all the work after JEHOVAH Created Him but the son gave all the glory to his Father who empowered him to do the work.

A parent owns his child but gives the glory to God who empowered him to father the child yet he can't just take the life of his own child simply because he's the father. So also Jesus is the creator of all other things but he believes that the right to do and undo over any creature lies in the hands of the One who empowered him. John 8:28

Note that Jesus will rule the whole earth after he has chained Satan {Revelations 20:1-3} but he didn't take laws into his hand to destroy the unbelievers {Luke 9:51-56} but after God has given him the order {Psalms 110:1-3} Jesus will kill all unbelievers! Luke 19:27

Where you people are getting us wrong is the misconception that we don't acknowledge Jesus, surely we acknowledged him as our Lord, Master and King but worship belongs only to our Grand Maker JEHOVAH even though Jesus is the one whom JEHOVAH employed to do that job he himself told us that his God is our God! John 20:17 smiley
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by livingchrist: 8:54pm On Sep 11, 2021
Barristter07:


Interesting. Truth prevail. Receiving shows he was given.
He was given what belongs to him



Howcan he put down what he doesn't have in the first place ? Don't you just confess his authority is future ? Not something he had before coming to earth ?
All that the father has belongs to christ.

John 17:5
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Emusan(m): 8:57pm On Sep 11, 2021
Barristter07:
In short no such exist.

Check your previous post, you'll see it there.

In our IMAGE , not images. It's a single image belonging to the invisible God.

That shows you that both are viewed as ONE!

You haven't answered my question.

Was Jesus part of that US & OUR?

Image of Jesus is a future project by the Father , and only those called participate , Your foolish idea m and every human that ever lived was declared righteous and glorified. - Romans 8:29,30

Jesus is part of US & OUR or not?

The reason he was brought was stated right there,

cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Who brought him?
How can Jesus be brought to the same person He was with throughout eternity before the creation of the universe?

Your delusion never do cheesy grin grin grin grin

To be given authority which he doesn't have before!

The text is clear, "SOME ONE LIKE SON OF MAN" which is even evident since angels never have that LOOK of LIKE A SON OF MAN in heaven.

The text said nothing about the identity of those who brought him,

So Jesus can still be brought to the same Father he was with throughout eternity shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked Even your father the Devil will so ashamed of you on this.

but it made it clear that Jesus wasn't human,

But it's LIKE SON OF MAN..

Are you OK at all?

He was " LIKE " son of man. Not son of man.

How many being in heaven LOOK like SON OF MAN?

The expression SON OF MAN shows it's a HUMAN BEING

This is what you fraudster can't stomach.

When in reality you're the fraudulent one here, claiming to be LIKE SON OF MAN doesn't mean He is not HUMAN.

IF Jesus wasn't presented as HUMAN in that verse why that expression in the first place, when you know He is a Spirit being?

Fraudulent liar!

Christ has no authority until he was permitted/given . Fact

You can keep crying on that

Just have it in mind that Jesus is your Creator and still uphold the universe by the power of His word.

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Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by livingchrist: 9:03pm On Sep 11, 2021
Barristter07:


Nowhere is Jesus called God Almighty. God Almighty cannot have a God. Almighty is not given authority. Again Son of God is not like God himself. Psalm 89:6,7

They are miles apart. So existing in Divine nature doesn't mean same inner qualities.
He has the FULLNESS of God's nature. Almighty is given glory and honor
Jesus is Almighty God, He has all power in heaven and on earth.

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Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Emusan(m): 9:09pm On Sep 11, 2021
Janosky:

To you, Emusan , is the "US" not your 3 persons deities? grin grin

The US is the TRINITY

So can you answer my question, was Jesus part of that US & OUR?

[s]Emusan claims the "US" is 3 persons, his 3 co equal Gods together.
My question :
Emusan is your holy ghost "THEY"?
How many persons is your oly ghost?[/s]

What rubbish is he speaking here

[s][b]Wahala for Trinity GIBBERISH. grin
Questions for Emusan:
#1
Since it's only your 3 co equal Gods together.
Why is your oly ghost not close to JEHOVAH?[/s]

Tactic to deviate from the main issue.

Was Jesus part of US & OUR? Is my question cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

#2
Why must Jesus be brought to JEHOVAH when your Jesus is co equal to JEHOVAH?

Oponu....when you couldn't reason and lack simple comprehension.

The verse was talking about Jesus HUMAN FORM after He had EMPTIED HIMSELF of the GOD'S NATURE.

The reason why your deluded brother wants to force that verse to be pre-human Jesus in heaven when in reality the verse is very cleared.

[s]#3Job 2:1, Job 1:6,Job 38:7 is the only true God Jehovah living alone in heaven with his 2 co equal Gods?[/s]

Stop jumping like kangaroo.....

Always remember to go home with your brain after dropping it at your hall.
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by livingchrist: 9:12pm On Sep 11, 2021
Barristter07:


Just as he possess the full attributes of his brothers which is sin and imperfect when he took their Form ?

You see you are an hypocrite. Shame on you

Sons of God like Jesus are never like God ( Psalm 89:6,7)
shame on you! Liar


Hebrews 2:17 Wherefore in all things it
behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
Wherefore is a continuation of the previous verses.
Vs 17 is continuation of other verses before it, you cannot interpret without other verses
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Emusan(m): 9:16pm On Sep 11, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Brother, watch out for that moniker (Emusan) he's empty spiritually speaking,

Thanks for single me out.

all he's trying to do is get you annoyed so as to engage you in hurtful words.

Who got you annoyed before you start raising caustic word on this forum? grin cheesy grin grin cheesy grin

Such a person only need that as proof that JWs aren't angels (they also do say hurtful things to people)

See the hypocrite!
So I can only got you annoyed but the spirit of your father the devil in your will start manifesting cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin after pretence of being gentle cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

So let him continue ranting, just give him the response (when necessary) but if not then allow him to continue talking to himself!

Just as you can't stop mentioning my moniker

I stopped responding to him and guess what? He felt so bad that he kept coming after me but just as i decided to chat with him again as a neighbour he quickly switch over to his real motive: insults!

Says the hypocrite that keeps insulting people here! I understand the severe pain!

So i cut him off immediately! smiley

Let's see maybe he'll be able to cut him off immediately grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by livingchrist: 9:38pm On Sep 11, 2021
Barristter07:


You said and I quote " morphe mean more than just appearance. It includes all the essential qualities that defines a being . " - livingchrist


What are the essential qualities of Jesus brothers ? Imperfections , Sinful body ?

You have no place to hide . Your definition of morphe must satisfy both sides. He must possess their full qualities as well !
You are off point!
Hebrews 2vv17 is not talking of sin nature but human nature.
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Bishopkingsley(m): 9:53pm On Sep 11, 2021
Barristter07:


Your delusion is very Strong. Show me one single place where I replied you with A man said ? Your points were replied using the scripture, isn't it ?


Not every one is created to make the new earth so remain here hope the GB told you people that the earth is where you are going to live in so stay here and take over my house and I will be in the new earth when God wipes you away we shall see who is saying the truth

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Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Emusan(m): 9:54pm On Sep 11, 2021
Janosky:

#1Emusan LIENUS is confused. His sentence is NOT coherent.
JWs rejects Trinity GIBBERISH & won't propagate it.

It's only incoherent with you because those writings of the early church fathers proof Trinity teaching predated Constantine. cheesy grin

A pagan Roman emperor rubber stamped the GIBBERISH DECEIVING you.

When you couldn't counter those statement of early church fathers remember your organization says "What THEY teach is of INTERESTING" cheesycheesycheesycheesycheesy

Mr LIENUS DECEIVING himself.
Matthew 4:10, Jesus told Satan:
Worship only Jehovah your God, him alone you shall SERVE"
God is a "Him" , singular pronoun.
Kindergarten pupils knows that.
JWs SERVE & worship only Jehovah God, we follow Jesus instructions @ Matthew 4:10.

At least you agreed with Jesus in that Matt 4:10, so are you serving Jesus according to Daniel 7:14? grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

Emusan LIENUS arguing aimlessly.
Did Emusan see Latin Crux in bill Mounce Greek interlinear of John 19:7?

JaNosense arguing blindly.

How can one see Latin word in Greek writing grin cheesy cheesy cheesy grin cheesy grin

Are you sure you're OK?

Emusan no get conscience. He lies like kilode. grin grin grin

Says the greatest JaNosense the lying liar like his father the devil.

Emusan read BBC News/ Washington Post screenshot proven the instrument of Jesus death was NEVER known as cross grin

You haven't get cure from your delusion.

Where is the screenshot?

Matthew 27:25,Acts 3:14-15, Acts 5:30, the Jews did.
Emusan LIENUS & him Roman GIBBERISH
grin grin

Even you yourself know you're lying for saying it's Jews who CARRIED OUT JESUS EXCUTION.

Did Mr Tsaferi tell Emusan the Romans executed Jesus on the cross?
Emphatic no !!!!!


Mr Tsaferi proved that Roman has never executed anyone on a STAKE OR POLE.

Where has Roman execute anyone on a stake or pole is what you're still disturbing Google for since grin cheesy grin grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

Clean your tears Mr lying liar JWs like his father the devil.

Emusan LIENUS is confused & wedded to FALSEHOOD.
Joshua 10:26 = Deuteronomy 21:21-23 grin
Joshua impaled the king of Ai on a Pole.
Joshua also impaled 5 kings on a Pole.
(Screenshot evidences)
Emusan LIENUS shame on you
!! [/b]

If I say you lack scriptural understanding, you'll think I'm joking.

Joshua ONLY HUNG THOSE KING'S body after they were ALREADY DEAD, which is what Deu 21:22-23 is all about.

CEV: Joshua made sure every building in Ai was burned to the ground. He told his men to kill the king of Ai and hang his body on a tree. Then at sunset he told the Israelites to take down the body, throw it in the gateway of the town, and cover it with a big pile of rocks. Those rocks are still there, and the town itself has never been rebuilt. Joshua 8:29

CEV: Joshua killed the five kings and told his men to hang each body on a tree. Then at sunset Joshua 10:28


Now compare this with the statement of that Deu 21:22

CEV: Moses said to Israel: If a criminal is put to death, and you hang the dead body on a tree

ESV: “And if a man has committed a crime punishable by death and he is put to death, and you hang him on a tree,

TLB: “If a man has committed a crime worthy of death, and is executed and then hanged on a tree,
NWT: “And in case there comes to be in a man a sin deserving the sentence of death, and he has been put to death, and you have hung him upon a stake,


You can see that Deu is talking about when the victim has been put to DEATH first before being hanged on a tree which is what Joshua did. No Jews ever put anyone on tree till died and when Jews later copied this practice, it was CROSS they used not POLE just from where they COPIED IT FROM.

I guess your Jesus was first executed before being hanged on your pole grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Besides, Roman is the one that executed Jesus Christ and Roman never used pole to execute anyone. This is what Tsaferi says which you're still twisting.

So Mr JaNosense couple with lying liar.

Try to inform your brainwashed in the hall tomorrow about this grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin grin cheesy cheesy grin

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Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Barristter07: 10:15am On Sep 12, 2021
livingchrist:

You are off point!
Hebrews 2vv17 is not talking of sin nature but human nature .
Trapped man grin
Outer form only without the essential Sin qualities ?
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Barristter07: 10:16am On Sep 12, 2021
livingchrist:
He has the FULLNESS of God's nature. Almighty is given glory and honor
Jesus is Almighty God, He has all power in heaven and on earth.

No Son of God is like God!

Rest
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by KNOWMORE56: 10:54am On Sep 12, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


HE is JEHOVAH and Jesus is the one speaking.

Jesus did all the work after JEHOVAH Created Him but the son gave all the glory to his Father who empowered him to do the work.

May the Lord Jesus Christ bless you for saying it as it is in the Word....

Jesus created ALL (not some) things...
The Bible says if there's anything created it's by Jesus Christ

*. John 1:1 "KJV:In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2
KJV:The same was in the beginning with God.
3
KJV: All things were made by him ; and without him was not any thing made that was made ."

Anytime watch Tower wants to deceive you with the meaning of the word BY/THROUGH...

tell them "aeroplane was invented BY Wright brothers"

Does it mean Wright brothers were just channels?

More also, Jesus said that those things you guys are saying the Father gave Him are His own:

*. John 16:14 "KJV:He shall glorify me: for he ( the Father ) shall receive of MINE , and shall shew it unto you.
15
KJV: All things that the Father hath are MINE : therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you."

*. John 17:10 "KJV: And ALL MINE ARE THINE, and THINE ARE MINE ; and I am glorified in them."

watch Tower worshipers trying hard to disapprove the Word (Jesus)! cheesy grin grin
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Barristter07: 11:27am On Sep 12, 2021
Emusan:


That shows you that both are viewed as ONE!
You haven't answered my question.
Was Jesus part of that US & OUR?
Jesus is part of US & OUR or not?

Rather shows Jesus existed in the image of His Father, as a creation himself . The Image clearly belong to the invisible God - Col 1:15

I think that's one Fact we can't deny

If all humans have Jesus image, it means all are righteous! Rom 8:29. Delusion




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Who brought him?
How can Jesus be brought to the same person He was with throughout eternity before the creation of the universe?

Your delusion never do cheesy grin grin grin grin

The text is clear, "SOME ONE LIKE SON OF MAN" which is even evident since angels never have that LOOK of LIKE A SON OF MAN in heaven.

So Jesus can still be brought to the same Father he was with throughout eternity shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked Even your father the Devil will so ashamed of you on this.
But it's LIKE SON OF MAN..

Are you OK at all?
How many being in heaven LOOK like SON OF MAN?
The expression SON OF MAN shows it's a HUMAN BEING
When in reality you're the fraudulent one here, claiming to be LIKE SON OF MAN doesn't mean He is not HUMAN.

IF Jesus wasn't presented as HUMAN in that verse why that expression in the first place, when you know He is a Spirit being?

Fraudulent liar!


" LIKE " means Similar, it's a simile , NOT a Metaphor

Tunde look like a goat, Doesn't mean Tunde is a Goat. You ought to have done this in school

After Jesus returned to heaven to get this authority, the expression " like " was used because he is not human , Revelation 1:13

" And standing in the middle of the lampstands was someone like the Son of Man. He was wearing a long robe with a gold sash across his chest. "

Some heavenly persons were represented also as having Face Like a Lion, Bird etc . LIKE means it's just a means of description , not who they are.

Even the Father was said to look LIKE man. Like makes it clear the Father is not a man. Ezekiel 1:26

Clearly, Daniel 7:13,14 was not describing a human but a spirit person. Who doesn't even have such authority until he was given.
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Barristter07: 11:33am On Sep 12, 2021
livingchrist:
He was given what belongs to him

All that the father has belongs to christ.

John 17:5
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.



" And what do you have that you did not receive? Now if you did indeed receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it? " - 1Corinthians 4:7

Your brain ought to correct you when typing the bold. As long as you receive it from someone, it's nothing to boast about. Its a Gift
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by KNOWMORE56: 12:35pm On Sep 12, 2021
livingchrist:
I ask you again for the umpteenth time is Adam just an appearance.
So you mean Jesus was just an appearance, who ate, was hungry, slept and died?

@bolded Jesus said all the father his his own, including his throne which is represent the father's authority, Jesus is God Almighty, that is the truth no matter how you hate him, he is your God, your creator and you will bow to him, you have no say in this.

"that is the truth no matter how you hate him, he is your God, your creator and you will bow to him, you have no say in this."

Very correct....

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Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:04pm On Sep 12, 2021
The highlighted said it all.
Thanks! smiley

KNOWMORE56:


May the Lord Jesus Christ bless you for saying it as it is in the Word....

Jesus created ALL (not some) things...
The Bible says if there's anything created it's by Jesus Christ

*. John 1:1 "KJV:In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
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KJV:The same was in the beginning with God.
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KJV: All things were made by him ; and without him was not any thing made that was made ."

Anytime watch Tower wants to deceive you with the meaning of the word BY/THROUGH...

tell them "aeroplane was invented BY Wright brothers"

Does it mean Wright brothers were just channels?

More also, Jesus said that those things you guys are saying the Father gave Him are His own:

*. John 16:14 "KJV:He shall glorify me: for he ( the Father ) shall receive of MINE , and shall shew it unto you.
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KJV: All things that the Father hath are MINE : therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you."

*. John 17:10 "KJV: And ALL MINE ARE THINE, and THINE ARE MINE ; and I am glorified in them."

watch Tower worshipers trying hard to disapprove the Word (Jesus)! cheesy grin grin
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Barristter07: 1:38pm On Sep 12, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


Not every one is created to make the new earth so remain here hope the GB told you people that the earth is where you are going to live in so stay here and take over my house and I will be in the new earth when God wipes you away we shall see who is saying the truth


And what exactly is the above all about, are you denying the Bible teach that there will be a new earth ?
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Bishopkingsley(m): 1:51pm On Sep 12, 2021
Barristter07:


And what exactly is the above all about, are you denying the Bible teach that there will be a new earth ?

Face others when you have finished with them let me know

This acts of trying to reply everyone at once is making you not to understand the things they say to you
Re: Beware Of The Leaven Of Jehovah's Witnesses by Bishopkingsley(m): 1:52pm On Sep 12, 2021
Jesus and Jehovah (or Yahweh) and Jesus as the Word (Logos)

Responses to Jehovah's Witnesses

"As usual, Paul entered there and . . . discussed the Scriptures with them." -- Acts 17:2 (International Study Bible)

Excerpts from email exchange with a Jehovah's Witness

Jehovah's Witness question: Where in Scripture does it say that Jesus is the same as Jehovah?
My answer: Well, take a look at what Jesus said about Himself. Take a look at what was said about Him in Scripture. Here are some Bible passages that indicate Jesus was Yahweh incarnate:
What was Jesus like? Scripture ascribes to Jesus characteristics which only Yahweh Himself can possess.
Preexistence (that means there was no previous point in time or eternity in which He did not exist):
John 1:15,
John 8:58,
John 6:51,
John 3:13,
John 17:5
Divine names and titles:
Matthew 3:3,
Isaiah 40:3 (Mighty God),
Romans 10:13,
Joel 3:32,
John 20:28,
Acts 10:36,
John 1:1 (Word was God),
Romans 9:5,
1 John 5:20
Self-existence (which only God has):
John 2:19,
John 10:17-18,
John 5:26
Eternality or everlastingness (which only God possesses):
John 1:1-2, 17:5, 24,
Hebrews 1:8, 10-12,
1 John 1:2
Omnipresence (which only God possesses): Matthew 18:20, 28:20,
John 3:13,
Ephesians 1:21
Omnipotence (which only God possesses): Matthew 28:18,
Luke 21:15,
John 1:3, 10:18,
1 Corinthians 1:24,
Ephesians 1:22,
Philippians 3:21,
Colossians 2:10,
Revelation 1:18
Immutability or changelessness (which only God possesses):
Hebrews 1:11-12, 13:8
What did Jesus do? Actions which only God can do are attributed in Scripture to Jesus.
Creation:
John 1:3, 10,
1 Corinthians 8:6,
Colossians 1:16,
Hebrews 1:10
Upholds and preserves all things: Colossians 1:17, Hebrews 1:3
Forgives sins: Mark 2:5-10,
Luke 5:20-24, 7:47-49,
Acts 5:31
Gives the Holy Spirit: Luke 24:40,
John 16:7, 20:22,
Acts 2:33
Gives true peace: John 14:27, 16:33,
Romans 15:33, 16:20,
2 Corinthians 13:11,
Philippians 4:9,
1 Thessalonians 5:23,
Hebrews 13:30
Gives light: John 1:4-9, 8:12, 9:5, 12:35, 46,
1 John 1:5-7,
Revelation 21:23
Gives eternal life: John 17:2
Confers spiritual gifts: Ephesians 4:8-13
Receives worship: Matthew 14:33,
Luke 24:51-52,
Acts 1:24, 7:59-60,
Hebrews 1:6,
Revelation 5:13
What rights and prerogatives did Jesus have? Powers and privileges belonging solely to Yahweh are claimed by Jesus for Himself.
Jesus said he was Lord of the Sabbath:
Mark 2:28
Jesus claimed to be the final judge of all human beings: Matthew 7:21-23, 13-41-43, 19:28, 25:31-33,
Mark 14:62,
Luke 9:26

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