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Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 11:19am On Sep 16, 2021
Agboriotejoye:

Hahahaha. Joseph was 90 years old. Anyone ever heard of a 90 year old carpenter? A 90 year old indeed.
So you are now agreeing Muhammad went about plagiarizing the Talmud now? Good!! I guess we're good now.
Your conscience confirms it? You don't know? When I see the sun during a bright day, I need no conscience to see it, nor do I think that I see it. I clearly see it. It's there physically loud and clear before my very eyes. I don't need feel-good-victimhood goosebumps delusions to confirm it. In court, an eye witness doesn't say he's unsure or he thinks he saw something if he/she is to be considered a credible witness. This fraud and lie you are forming bare the only tools you have to face a Muslim...no truth but lies and . propaganda on GOD which is clear blasphemy. More delusions and lies will be dealt with
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:23am On Sep 16, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
The Islamic Rituals of Worship are all supported in the Bible:

The Islamic Fasting, Prostrating to GOD Almighty in Worship, Doing Pilgrimage are all pillars of the Original Faith, and each one of them is supported in the Bible's Scriptures, and also outside of the Bible's Scriptures. 

See Psalm 138:2 “I will bow to you in the direction of your Holy Temple.”,

Genesis 28:16-18.

Judges 20:18.

1 Chronicles 6:47-49.

Numbers 24:3-5.

Deuteronomy 9:17-19.

Deuteronomy 9:25.

1 Kings 18:39.

Matthew 26:39 (Jeusus worshiped the Muslims’ way).

Genesis 47:9.

Psalm 119:54.

Nehemiah 9:1.

Esther 4:3.

Psalm 35:13.

Psalm 69:10.

Daniel 6:18.

Matthew 15:32.

The Bible's fasting is not eating and drinking:  Luke5:33 They said to him, “John’s disciples often fast and pray, and so do the disciples of the Pharisees, but yours go on eating and drinking.”

The Bible also called the path to Mecca "THE PATH OF HOLINESS".

It was the pagans who plagiarized Islam's practices, not the other way around.  The Bible also declares it.

Becca is Mecca in Psalm 4:6.  According to (1) Cambridge commentary, (2) Jewish Encyclopedia and (3) Encyclopedia Biblica in Arabic and other sources.  Ample Jewish and Christian references declare Becca's geography to be modern-day Mecca:
  
You are now coming round to accept the plagiarism in your religion
How can the practices in the Bible and Torah suddenly show up in Quran? May I ask why Muhammad claim something that was already existing in Mecca and Medina was "revealed" to him? You can only reveal what is not known not what is known. The Bible and Torah were already existing before Muhammad came with his Quran which shows how he plagiarized them.

All those verses you mentioned are practices of Judaism not Islam. The holy temple is Jerusalem where Muhammad himself used to pray before he diverted to Mecca claiming Angels asked him to. How could he start praying towards Mecca while idol worship was going on there if not that he had plagiarized the Jewish form of worship?
Becca is not Mecca. Stop lying. Becca was a valley close to Jerusalem or do you mean Mecca is close to Jerusalem. One wonders why you headslammers go about seeking validity from the Bible!!
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 11:23am On Sep 16, 2021
Agboriotejoye:

You are now coming round to accept the plagiarism in your religion
How can the practices in the Bible and Torah suddenly show up in Quran? May I ask why Muhammad claim something that was already existing in Mecca and Medina was "revealed" to him? You can only reveal what is not known not what is known. The Bible and Torah were already existing before Muhammad came with his Quran which shows how he plagiarized them.

All those verses you mentioned are practices of Judaism not Islam. The holy temple is Jerusalem where Muhammad himself used to pray before he diverted to Mecca claiming Angels asked him to. How could he start praying towards Mecca while idol worship was going on there if not that he had plagiarized the Jewish form of worship?
Becca is not Mecca. Stop lying. Becca was a valley close to Jerusalem or do you mean Mecca is close to Jerusalem. One wonders why you headslammers go about seeking validity from the Bible!!
Paul blasphemed against God again (like in 1 Corinthians 1:25) in Galatians 1:8 by saying an Angel from Heaven could be lying and condemned!!!! Angels from Heaven obviously could ONLY be sent by God and thus could only be doing Truthful work ordered for them by Almighty God!!!



So Paul saw it was easy for people to LIE and claim to be sent by God with revelation from his OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE!!!! He recognized this would likely occur many times again after him sometime in the history of humanity! Also the False Apostle Paul and others in his time knew Jesus(PBUH) was NOT the final Prophet of God (see John 14:16, John Ch. 16, etc.). Paul(knowing he had LIED about receiving revelation) saw that he had to pre-emptively strike and try to defend his LYING legacy by saying that even if an "Angel of God" came it would be lying against him, not the reverse which was the obvious truth that Paul had LIED against Almighty God!!!! What an egoistical LIAR!!!!



Finally, Paul again gives NO specifics like names, dates, places, etc. so he is just rambling and makes NO amazing statements once we take everything into consideration!!!! Pagan Christians CANNOT disprove any of the preceding theories as to what Paul was thinking when he wrote Galatians 1:6-9 and they have NO ability to show any alleged "prophecy" once you read the passage and take this ARTICLE into consideration!
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 11:27am On Sep 16, 2021
Agboriotejoye:

You are now coming round to accept the plagiarism in your religion
How can the practices in the Bible and Torah suddenly show up in Quran? May I ask why Muhammad claim something that was already existing in Mecca and Medina was "revealed" to him? You can only reveal what is not known not what is known. The Bible and Torah were already existing before Muhammad came with his Quran which shows how he plagiarized them.

All those verses you mentioned are practices of Judaism not Islam. The holy temple is Jerusalem where Muhammad himself used to pray before he diverted to Mecca claiming Angels asked him to. How could he start praying towards Mecca while idol worship was going on there if not that he had plagiarized the Jewish form of worship?
Becca is not Mecca. Stop lying. Becca was a valley close to Jerusalem or do you mean Mecca is close to Jerusalem. One wonders why you headslammers go about seeking validity from the Bible!!
Stop dodging paul


I'll disapprove your claim using your bible


Becca (Bacca, Baca, Baka) is Mecca in Psalm 84:6:

Psalms and the Glorious Quran.

- Becca's geography is Mecca. According to (1) Cambridge commentary, (2) Jewish Encyclopedia Volume II, and (3) Encyclopedia Biblica in Arabic and other sources. Ample Jewish and Christian references declare Becca's geography to be modern-day Mecca.
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:27am On Sep 16, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
[s]Your conscience confirms it? You don't know? When I see the sun during a bright day, I need no conscience to see it, nor do I think that I see it. I clearly see it. It's there physically loud and clear before my very eyes. I don't need feel-good-victimhood goosebumps delusions to confirm it. In court, an eye witness doesn't say he's unsure or he thinks he saw something if he/she is to be considered a credible witness. This fraud and lie you are forming bare the only tools you have to face a Muslim...no truth but lies and . propaganda on GOD which is clear blasphemy. More delusions and lies will be dealt with[/s]

How does this incoherent mumbo-jumbo address the plagiarism in the Quran

How does it stop Muhammad from being a criminal who murdered people at will?

No wonder this guy in this thread went and did same?
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 11:28am On Sep 16, 2021
[s]
Agboriotejoye:


How does this incoherent mumbo-jumbo address the plagiarism in the Quran

How does it stop Muhammad from being a criminal who murdered people at will?

No wonder this guy in this thread went and did same?
[/s]How on earth is Paul comparing greed, sexual immorality and uncaring for family on the same level as idolatry? Idolatry is to go ahead and worship other false Gods. We all commit sins. Man by nature is greedy from time to time. Are you trying to say that the sin of being greedy is on the same level as idolatry? Sexual immorality, not caring for the family, being greedy are indeed great and horrible sins. There is no argument there. However, you can be a sinful believer who does that because you still believe in God. But for a person who does that to be worse than a disbeliever is just going a bit too far.
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 11:31am On Sep 16, 2021
Agboriotejoye:


How does this incoherent mumbo-jumbo address the plagiarism in the Quran

How does it stop Muhammad from being a criminal who murdered people at will?

No wonder this guy in this thread went and did same?
The Bible (consisting of both the Old and New Testament) is central to Christianity and so are its many myths, stories and parables. But even though many of these myths help to define the religion, some of them are not original – they have been borrowed or copied from other myths from other religions.
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:33am On Sep 16, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
Paul will disapoint you today


Islam is a Religion of action; Christianity is a religion of fabulous words. It does not have the answers to the problems of mankind. Islam superiorly has the solutions to the problems of mankind, the social corruptions in the society.



Islam demands a very high standard of morality which fixes the problems of the world. It’s is a Challenge to religion; a complete system of Life. The lawlessness of Christianity cannot be denied, since Christianity is based on emotions and not history.

[s]Jesus taught the very opposite of what Christianity teaches today. The purpose of Jesus’ mission was to preach the Torah, not to be crucified. He taught salvation came through observing the Law, and not by the ‘eloquent words’ of the later Church. Jesus declared in Matthew 17:21 that salvation is attained through “fasting and prayer[/s]”.
Yeah action like terrorism and suicide bombing.
Morality of terrorism and enslaving women and marrying them like a herd of cows?

Focus terrorist. Focus on the plagiarism in the Quran which you yourself have unwittingly alluded to
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:36am On Sep 16, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
I[s] have already noted that every teaching of Jesus was already in the literature of the day….. Paul, the founder of Christianity, the writer of half the NT, almost never quotes Jesus in his letters and writings. Did he?


Paul rejected the Jewish Law (Torah) and fabricated a religion called “Christianity” which deviated from the teachings of Jesus, transforming him into a god.

No doubt about all that i have said[/s]

Paul is not the subject of debate. The debate is plagiarism is in the Quran. Face this and face peace.
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:37am On Sep 16, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
[s]Paul is a liar, he claims to follow the Law of Christ when the Law of Christ was the observance of the Torah (Matthew 5:17-20) the very Law that he strongly rejected! The hypocrisy of Paul is further exposed in the following verse:



For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner? (Romans 3:7, King James Version)



But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner? (English Standard Version)



But if the truth of God through my lie abounded unto his glory, why am I also still judged as a sinner? (American Standard Version)[/s]

How does all this change the plagiarism in the Quran?
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:39am On Sep 16, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
You cant compare Human equality in Islam vs Christianity

I'll show you how Islam came to liberate slaves and end the Judeo-Christian and Pagan slavery, and how the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments promotes slavery

Hahahaha. Islam ended slavery?!! Slavery is still legal in so many Arabian countries you fool! So Islam ended slavery in the US and the western world but left it intact in the Arabian world. How can Islam end slavery when the founder was a slave owner? Are you now saying Muhammad was wrong to own slaves?
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:42am On Sep 16, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
Why did slavery exist during Islam? And how did Islam deal with it?

First, it is important to know that thousands of years ago life was different than today. Today, people wouldn't accept slavery for any reason. The reason for this is because people are a lot more independent both financially, education wise, mentally, etc... But people back then were different. When a tribe or a group of people lose a major battle and their money is mostly, if not all, is taken as war booty by the other side, then people could and would accept being slaves for the following reasons:

1- Both financial and social security. When their country or tribe lost the war, they also lost most or all of their money as war booty. Being out of money and food, it becomes necessary for an individual to find the means for basic survival in life. Living as a slave would provide this.

2- Protection from hostile individuals. Even under the Islamic rule, you can still find hostile individuals who violate the Law and take matters into their own hands. An enemy family can be sometime in danger if they don't have a "protector".

3- Widows, Orphans, and the extremely poor of the enemy side need the financial and social protection from a Master. Back then, there were no governments with good social system that protects everyone. Slavery back then was that social system in special cases.

There are probably more points I can add, but I think these are sufficient enough.



Islam and Slavery:

Islam is a religion that came to fight slavery and end it once and for all. During Judaism and Christianity, slavery was at its highest peak in the Middle East. People were enslaved and they and their children were inherited and passed down to generations for ever. This tradition came from Leviticus 25:44-46 in the Bible's Old Testament, and further continued in the New Testament in 1 Timothy 6:1, 1 Peter 2:18, and Colossians 3:22.

Now keep in mind that the entire Bible is corrupted and unreliable and is mostly filled with man-made cultural laws and corruption!

GOD Almighty Said: "`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:cool"

The Revised Standard Version makes it even clearer: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:cool"

In either translation, we clearly see that the Jews had so much corrupted the Bible with their man-made cultural laws, that they had turned the Bible into a lie!

See Also Deuteronomy 31:25-29 where Moses peace be upon him predicted the corruption/tampering of the Law (Bible) after his death. The Book of Moses predicted that the Law (Bible) will get corrupted. The Book of Jeremiah which came approximately 826 years after did indeed confirm this corruption.

So Leviticus 25:44-46, 1 Timothy 6:1, 1 Peter 2:18, and Colossians 3:22 above are highly doubtful to be Divine Revelations from GOD Almighty, the Most Just, Most Merciful, and Most Wise. Please visit Just who were the real authors of the Bible? You will see comments from the commentary of the NIV Bible (one of the most used Bibles world wide) itself admitting that most of the Books and Gospels of the Bible are corrupted. No one ever claimed ownership of the current Books and Gospels. The owners/writers are unknown.

When Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him received the Divine Revelations of Islam, slavery among the Pagan Arabs, Jews and Christians was quite common. When he came with Allah Almighty's True Religion of Islam, he gradually eliminated slavery. He couldn't enforce it all at once, because it would've caused Islam to be an unsuccessful religion toward freeing slaves, and would certainly have broken Islam's system for ending slavery.

By gradually freeing slaves and making it be acceptable to the society of many different pagan cultures and traditions, the idea of eliminating slavery became powerful enough that after Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him died, the freed slaves remained free and non of them was ever enslaved again.

Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said:

Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari: "The Prophet said, "Give food to the hungry, pay a visit to the sick and release (set free) the one in captivity (by paying his ransom)." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Food, Meals, Volume 7, Book 65, Number 286)"



Always remember!

It was not Islam that started slavery, but it was Islam that ultimately ended it.

Hahahaha. Muhammad ended slavery by owning slaves. This is comedy of the highest order grin grin. Are your phantom converts reading this?
Muhammad had no qualms killing people who refused his religion but he could not do anything about slavery but had to "stylishly" end it.
Which makes Muhammad an hypocrite!
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 11:46am On Sep 16, 2021
[s]
Agboriotejoye:


Hahahaha. Muhammad ended slavery by owning slaves. This is comedy of the highest order grin grin. Are your phantom converts reading this?
Muhammad had no qualms killing people who refused his religion but he could not do anything about slavery but had to "stylishly" end it.
Which makes Muhammad an hypocrite!
[/s]If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? (NIV Bible)

So very clearly the Christians own gospels have Prophet Jesus PBUH clearly saying that the accursed Satan cannot fight himself and be divided against himself or his “kingdom” will fall (again even according to these Christians own corrupted, contradiction filled New Testament). The Holy Qur’an tells us over and over that the accursed Satan (called Shaytan in Arabic) is our WORST enemy

Let us quickly read some of the verses of the Holy Qur’an on this.

Allah SWT tells us to seek refuge with him (that is Allah the Almighty) against the evil of the accursed Satan (Satan is our worst enemy), before we begin reciting Allah SWT’s Holy Qur’an.

Qur’an al-Kareem Surah 16:98- So when you want to recite the Quran, seek refuge with Allah from Shaitan (Satan), the outcast (the cursed one). (Mushin Khan translation)

Surah 2:168- O mankind! Eat of that which is lawful and good on the earth, and follow not the footsteps of Shaitan (Satan). Verily, he is to you an open enemy. (Mushin Khan translation)

Qur’an Surah 26:210-212 (again from the Mushin Khan English translation of the Holy Qur’an)

26:210 And it is not the Shayatin (devils) who have brought it (this Quran) down,

26:211 Neither would it suit them, nor they can (produce it).

26:212 Verily, they have been removed far from hearing it.



Surah 7:200- And if an evil whisper comes to you from Shaitan (Satan) then seek refuge with Allah. Verily, He is All-Hearer, All-Knower. (Mushan Khan translation of the Qur’an)

And many more verses of the Holy Qur’an could be posted, but the reader gets the point that the Holy Qur’an calls on us to worship Allah SWT our blessed, Holy Creator alone and to shun, fight, and hate the evil accursed Satan. Also how exactly could the accursed Satan tell people to give charity, pray 5 times a day, stay away from the evils of alcohol and fornication, etc. oh Christian missionaries answer that! So again Christians that are being honest and keeping with what they themselves believe from the Bible in Luke 11:18, Mark 3:22-26, and Matthew 12:24-26 (where again their own books have Prophet Jesus PBUH saying that “Satan cannot fight/stand against Satan” for if Satan did this logic shows “his kingdom will fall”). These Christian missionaries have to admit the Holy Qur’an can never allegedly be from Satan, and must either be a revelation of God (Allah) or simply something that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) or some other men allegedly made up on their own. And we know the Holy Qur’an was revealed by Allah SWT because of all the miracles in it, that an illiterate man from the Arabian desert could never have made up on his own in the 7th Century CE
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 11:49am On Sep 16, 2021
[s]
Agboriotejoye:


Hahahaha. Islam ended slavery?!! Slavery is still legal in so many Arabian countries you fool! So Islam ended slavery in the US and the western world but left it intact in the Arabian world. How can Islam end slavery when the founder was a slave owner? Are you now saying Muhammad was wrong to own slaves?
[/s] The truth is clear...make up tour mind and accept it


In the meantime i wil keep educating you and the guilible ones here

It is a common misconception amongst Christians that Paul and the Apostles of Christ were unanimous in their preaching of a crucified Jesus. Christians think that the apostles and Paul were preaching the same doctrine and everyone believed in the divine Jesus who came to be crucified for the sins of the world. However, if one examines the bible carefully, that person would observe that Paul and the disciples were not preaching the same doctrine and did not believe in the same Jesus.

The Apostles in Jerusalem heard that Paul has been preaching a different doctrine in Galatia and Corinthia. Paul was telling them not to follow the law anymore and that they don’t have to eat kosher meat anymore or to be circumcised (according to Genesis 17::14, the covenant is broken if there is no circumcision) etc. So the Apostles went to Galatia and Corinthia and convinced everyone that Paul is wrong, when Paul heard about this he went straight back to the cities………
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:49am On Sep 16, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
Hypocrisy of Jews & Christians

It is quite hypocritical of Jews and Christian to criticize the marriage of Aisha. Talmud (Jewish scripture) says:

"Marrying off one's daughter as soon after she reaches adulthood as possible, even to one's Slave. (From the Talmud, Pesachim 113a)"

As discussed, in biblical times adulthood could refer to the age of Puberty or even younger age.

[s]Regarding the Marriage of Mary to Joseph, Catholic Encyclopaedia says:

"When forty years of age, Joseph married a woman called Melcha or Escha by some, Salome by others; they lived forty-nine years together and had six children, two daughters and four sons, the youngest of whom was James (the Less, "the Lord's brother"wink. A year after his wife's death, as the priests announced through Judea that they wished to find in the tribe of Juda a respectable man to espouse Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age, Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old, went up to Jerusalem among the candidates; a miracle manifested the choice God had made of Joseph, and two years later the Annunciation took place."
Encyclopedialopaedia goes on to conclude "...retained the belief that St. Joseph was an old man at the time of marriage with the Mother of God." If Christians do not find any difficulty in accepting "Mother of God" (according to Catholic Encyclopaedia), who was 12-14, marrying a 90 year old man then why do they raise objection towards the marriage of Aisha (RA) to the Prophet?
[/s]




12- What about the Bible's Prophets' marriages?

When we read the Bible, we learn about some Prophets marrying many wives, even hundreds of wives in some cases. Let us look at some of the verses from the Old Testament:

In Exodus 21:10, a man can marry an infinite amount of women without any limits to how many he can marry.

In 2 Samuel 5:13; 1 Chronicles 3:1-9, 14:3,

I thought you said the Bible was filled with false stories. How come you are using the Bibles stories to justify Muhammad? Do you mean Muhammad practiced lies? You should not aprobate and reprobate man. Stay in one place. You even went and quoted Catholic Encyclopedia!! Do you mean you guys are so poor in research that you rely on research from Christians to do your own analysis.

If you as a Muslim is relying on the Catholic Encyclopedia, it shows you are following your master who also plagiarized the Bible to form his own religion
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 11:50am On Sep 16, 2021
[s]
Agboriotejoye:


Hahahaha. Islam ended slavery?!! Slavery is still legal in so many Arabian countries you fool! So Islam ended slavery in the US and the western world but left it intact in the Arabian world. How can Islam end slavery when the founder was a slave owner? Are you now saying Muhammad was wrong to own slaves?
[/s] Galatians 2:11-21

Paul Opposes Peter
11When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he was clearly in the wrong. 12Before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group. ( why did people such as the Apostle James still believe that the law regarding food should still be applied? If Jesus came to replace the law, then why are they still following the law?) 13The other Jews joined him in his hypocrisy, so that by their hypocrisy even Barnabas was led astray. (so, Peter, James and Barnabas are wrong?)
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 11:51am On Sep 16, 2021
[s]
Agboriotejoye:


I thought you said the Bible was filled with false stories. How come you are using the Bibles stories to justify Muhammad? Do you mean Muhammad practiced lies? You should not aprobate and reprobate man. Stay in one place. You even went and quoted Catholic Encyclopedia!! Do you mean you guys are so poor in research that you rely on research from Christians to do your own analysis.

If you as a Muslim is relying on the Catholic Encyclopedia, it shows you are following your master who also plagiarized the Bible to form his own religion
[/s] it is clear from the Bible it self that not everyone believed in the Jesus who came to get crucified for the sins of the world and to replace the law. That there were different amongst the Apostles and Paul. The Apostles stuck to the true teachings of Jesus, which was upholding the law and that the Apostles who lived with Jesus know him better than Paul who never even saw Jesus except in a "vision". The only deceiver here was Paul and not Allah.
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:51am On Sep 16, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
[s]I will love to on the pulpit of your church and give lectures on paul...


Still On Paul...


Amazingly, Paul went to such extremes that he claimed Jesus destroyed the Jewish Law!



“He (Jesus) brought the hostility to an end, by abolishing the Law of commandments with its regulations”. (Ephesians 2:14)



Needless to say, the passage contradicts Matthew 5:17-20 where Jesus specifically states that he came to preach the Law, not to destroy it.



Paul gave evidence that he was building a new religion, a complete deviation from Jesus’ teachings:



Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man's foundation: (Romans 15:20)



What is Paul implying here?


If Paul had been spreading the original teaching of Jesus, then “another man’s foundation” would have been the same as his. They would both have been involved in building the same structure. The people who were hearing about Jesus, or rather Christ, for the first time from Paul’s lips, had no means of comparing his account with that of the Apostles who still held to Jesus’ teaching. Paul’s version was the only one to which they had access.


Paul was developing a new religion under the doctrines he was fabricating According to Acts, Paul traveled to Arabia for three years[/s]

How does this justify Muhammad plagiarizing the Bible? That's just wrong!!
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:53am On Sep 16, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
[s][/s] [s]Paul the comedian.... Please say something about Paul...defend your Paul....

Paul's Delusions: In 1 Corinthians 7:40, he claimed that he "thinks" that he has the Holy Spirit in him!

1- Paul calls the Bible fables and lies.
2- Paul's claim in Romans 13:1-5. Were the Christian martyrs evil then?

You are a product of your environment. Paul was a rodent from an infestation of rodents.

Lol Paul's perfect, sinless and infallible pedophiles and thieves (1 Corinthians 2:15).
Shege Paul could lift mountains[/s].

Is it Paul that asked Muhammad to plagiarize the Quran? You are deviating from the subject of conversation man!!
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 11:54am On Sep 16, 2021
[s]
Agboriotejoye:


How does this justify Muhammad plagiarizing the Bible? That's just wrong!!
[/s]Online you can lie and insult but ofline Christians love to go around smiling at Muslims, saying yes we love you, and God also loves you, yet at the same time they don’t mind insulting our most valued things such as Islam, Allah, the prophet Muhammad and so on.

Christians really do make a joke of themselves, do Christians really think that if they insult Islam that will go well with us? Are they so naive to believe that attacking Islam is not attacking a Muslim? So if someone insults your father and mother, you wouldn’t get insulted? Common Christians, stop being such arrogant liars, this is one of the worst things I find in a Christian, they come with smiles and compliments, yet they insult the something to which you hold so dear.

Now I am not saying that Christians don’t have a right to insult or critique Islam, no I do not say that. Insult away, the sin will be on your shoulders, however what I am saying is don’t insult Islam and at the same time come tell us you love us and all that other rubbish. The 2 do not mix and Muslims do not buy it.

But the Christians are in a problem here, they claim that it is their religion which teaches them to do that, therefore we have a big problem here, and this problem is that their own religion is a cult and an evil liar! How can a God tell you to love someone yet insult everything he believes in? That does not make sense.
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:55am On Sep 16, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
[s][/s][s]Your silly allegations have been dealt with and cleared!

If you insist on it then call for an ooen physical debate....

Your confusing, incoherent and oxymoronic statements had caused for sinful things to become lawful and for lawful things to become sinful, and for pious believers to be considered disbelievers, and for disbelievers and hypocrites to be considered pious believers. This in itself is a blasphemy against GOD Almighty.

I'll love to handle you face to face and disgrace you mentally retarded polytheist pagan[/s]

Explain why Muhammad plagiarized the Bible. Stay focused headslammer. Muhammad's body should be exhumed and locked up in kirikiri for crimes against humanity
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:56am On Sep 16, 2021
[quote author=Ibkhaleel001 post=105869792]Fabricated Bible:

Allah Almighty Said in the Noble Quran about the fabricated Bible:

"Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: "This is from God," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby. (The Noble Quran, 2:79)"[/quote

So the Bible is talked about in the Quran? Yet the Quran went ahead and copied same Bible. At least the Quran is not mentioned in the Bible. There we can see who copied who
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:57am On Sep 16, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
Christianity is a lie that grew as a rolling snow ball. Allah Almighty allows the doomed-to-Hell infidels to thrive and prosper in their lies here in this life, because it is theirs and not ours. Our life is the Hereafter in Heaven, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).

Christianity is a lie yet taqiyya is practiced in Islam. Islam keeps claiming people who have nothing to do with it as Muslims. Jewish religious figures like Abraham, Moses, Joshua, David are suddenly Muslims. Why you dey copy copy?
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:59am On Sep 16, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
[s]Paul blasphemed against God again (like in 1 Corinthians 1:25) in Galatians 1:8 by saying an Angel from Heaven could be lying and condemned!!!! Angels from Heaven obviously could ONLY be sent by God and thus could only be doing Truthful work ordered for them by Almighty God!!!



So Paul saw it was easy for people to LIE and claim to be sent by God with revelation from his OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE!!!! He recognized this would likely occur many times again after him sometime in the history of humanity! Also the False Apostle Paul and others in his time knew Jesus(PBUH) was NOT the final Prophet of God (see John 14:16, John Ch. 16, etc.). Paul(knowing he had LIED about receiving revelation) saw that he had to pre-emptively strike and try to defend his LYING legacy by saying that even if an "Angel of God" came it would be lying against him, not the reverse which was the obvious truth that Paul had LIED against Almighty God!!!! What an egoistical LIAR!!!!



Finally, Paul again gives NO specifics like names, dates, places, etc. so he is just rambling and makes NO amazing statements once we take everything into consideration!!!! Pagan Christians CANNOT disprove any of the preceding theories as to what Paul was thinking when he wrote Galatians 1:6-9 and they have NO ability to show any alleged "prophecy" once you read the passage and take this ARTICLE into consideration![/s]

What does this mumbo jumbo have to do with the plagiarism committed by the Quran
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:02pm On Sep 16, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
Stop dodging paul


I'll disapprove your claim using your bible


Becca (Bacca, Baca, Baka) is Mecca in Psalm 84:6:

Psalms and the Glorious Quran.

- Becca's geography is Mecca. According to (1) Cambridge commentary, (2) Jewish Encyclopedia Volume II, and (3) Encyclopedia Biblica in Arabic and other sources. Ample Jewish and Christian references declare Becca's geography to be modern-day Mecca.


So Mecca is close to Jerusalem abi Psalm 84
5 Blessed is the man whose strength is in thee; In whose heart are the highways [to Zion].
6 Passing through the valley of Weeping (Bacca) they make it a place of springs; Yea, the early rain covereth it with blessings

Does your Mecca mean weeping and is it in a valley on the way to Zion in Jerusalem?

You plagiarists no dey tire? undecided
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 12:02pm On Sep 16, 2021
Numbers 16
29 If these men die a natural death and experience only what usually happens to men, then the LORD has not sent me.
30 But if the LORD brings about something totally new, and the earth opens its mouth and swallows them, with everything that belongs to them, and they go down alive into the grave, then you will know that these men have treated the LORD with contempt."
31 As soon as he finished saying all this, the ground under them split apart

Note: I believe this is where they were transformed into apes and swines. The earth probably never opened up and swallowed them. Or may be it did after they were shown to everyone. Only Allah Almighty Knows about the exact timing.



Very Important Point regarding the Swines and Apes conversion:

Since the entire Bible is a rewrite and not the original Holy Word of GOD Almighty as clearly proven by the bible's own theologians' quotes and detailed analysis on every "book" and "gospel", it is quite possible that the writers of the Bible got the narration about the earth opening up and swallowing them wrong. It was rather when they turned into apes and swines and literally disappeared completely from the rest of the Israelites, people thought that the earth opened up and swallowed them.



Even today people use the public saying "Did the earth open up and swallow him?" when referring to someone who can't be found!





12- The story of building Noah's Ark is brief. The details of how the ark was built, what material was used to build it, how many people helped in building it, and how long it took to build it are not mentioned in the Noble Quran. Allah Almighty only Gave brief and pithy details:

"We sent Noah to his people (with a mission): "I have come to you with a Clear Warning: "That ye serve none but God: Verily I do fear for you the penalty of a grievous day." But the chiefs of the Unbelievers among his people said: "We see (in) thee nothing but a man like ourselves: Nor do we see that any follow thee but the meanest among us, in judgment immature: Nor do we see in you (all) any merit above us: in fact we thing ye are liars!" He said: "O my people! See ye if (it be that) I have a Clear Sign from my Lord, and that He hath sent Mercy unto me from His own presence, but that the Mercy hath been obscured from your sight? shall we compel you to accept it when ye are averse to it? "And O my people! I ask you for no wealth in return: my reward is from none but God: But I will not drive away (in contempt) those who believe: for verily they are to meet their Lord, and ye I see are the ignorant ones! "And O my people! who would help me against God if I drove them away? Will ye not then take heed? "I tell you not that with me are the treasures of God, nor do I know what is hidden, nor claim I to be an angel. Nor yet do I say, of those whom your eyes do despise that God will not grant them (all) that is good: God knoweth best what is in their souls: I should, if I did, indeed be a wrong-doer." They said: "O Noah! thou hast disputed with us, and (much) hast thou prolonged the dispute with us: now bring upon us what thou threatenest us with, if thou speakest the truth!?" He said: "Truly, God will bring it on you if He wills,- and then, ye will not be able to frustrate it! "Of no profit will be my counsel to you, much as I desire to give you (good) counsel, if it be that God willeth to leave you astray: He is your Lord! and to Him will ye return!" Or do they say, "He has forged it"? Say: "If I had forged it, on me were my sin! and I am free of the sins of which ye are guilty! It was revealed to Noah: "None of thy people will believe except those who have believed already! So grieve no longer over their (evil) deeds. "But construct an Ark under Our eyes and Our inspiration, and address Me no (further) on behalf of those who are in sin: for they are about to be overwhelmed (in the Flood)." Forthwith he (starts) constructing the Ark: Every time that the chiefs of his people passed by him, they threw ridicule on him. He said: "If ye ridicule us now, we (in our turn) can look down on you with ridicule likewise! "But soon will ye know who it is on whom will descend a penalty that will cover them with shame,- on whom will be unloosed a penalty lasting:" At length, behold! there came Our command, and the fountains of the earth gushed forth! We said: "Embark therein, of each kind two, male and female, and your family - except those against whom the word has already gone forth,- and the Believers." but only a few believed with him. So he said: "Embark ye on the Ark, In the name of God, whether it move or be at rest! For my Lord is, be sure, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful!" (The Noble Quran, 11:25-41)"



13- The story of the Great Flood was also mentioned in the Noble Quran in briefly:

"So the Ark floated with them on the waves (towering) like mountains, and Noah called out to his son, who had separated himself (from the rest): "O my son! embark with us, and be not with the unbelievers!" The son replied: "I will betake myself to some mountain: it will save me from the water." Noah said: "This day nothing can save, from the command of God, any but those on whom He hath mercy! "And the waves came between them, and the son was among those overwhelmed in the Flood. Then the word went forth: "O earth! swallow up thy water, and O sky! Withhold (thy rain)!" and the water abated, and the matter was ended. The Ark rested on Mount Judi, and the word went forth: "Away with those who do wrong!" And Noah called upon his Lord, and said: "O my Lord! surely my son is of my family! and Thy promise is true, and Thou art the justest of Judges!" He said: "O Noah! He is not of thy family: For his conduct is unrighteous. So ask not of Me that of which thou hast no knowledge! I give thee counsel, lest thou act like the ignorant!" Noah said: "O my Lord! I do seek refuge with Thee, lest I ask Thee for that of which I have no knowledge. And unless thou forgive me and have Mercy on me, I should indeed be lost!" (The Noble Quran, 11:42-47)"



14- The ending of the flood was also mentioned briefly:

"The word came: "O Noah! Come down (from the Ark) with peace from Us, and blessing on thee and on some of the peoples (who will spring) from those with thee: but (there will be other) peoples to whom We shall grant their pleasures (for a time), but in the end will a grievous penalty reach them from Us." Such are some of the stories of the unseen, which We have revealed unto thee: before this, neither thou nor thy people knew them. So persevere patiently: for the End is for those who are righteous. (The Noble Quran, 11:48-49)"

"Then the word went forth: "O earth! swallow up thy water, and O sky! Withhold (thy rain)!" and the water abated, and the matter was ended. The Ark rested on Mount Judi, and the word went forth: "Away with those who do wrong!" (The Noble Quran, 11:44)"



15- The story of the people of 'Ad was also mentioned briefly:

"To the 'Ad People (We sent) Hud, one of their own brethren. He said: "O my people! worship God! ye have no other god but Him. (Your other gods) ye do nothing but invent! "O my people! I ask of you no reward for this (Message). My reward is from none but Him who created me: Will ye not then understand? "And O my people! Ask forgiveness of your Lord, and turn to Him (in repentance): He will send you the skies pouring abundant rain, and add strength to your strength: so turn ye not back in sin!" They said: "O Hud! No Clear (Sign) that hast thou brought us, and we are not the ones to desert our gods on thy word! Nor shall we believe in thee! "We say nothing but that (perhaps) some of our gods may have seized thee with imbecility." He said: "I call God to witness, and do ye bear witness, that I am free from the sin of ascribing, to Him, "Other gods as partners! so scheme (your worst) against me, all of you, and give me no respite. "I put my trust in God, My Lord and your Lord! There is not a moving creature, but He hath grasp of its fore-lock. Verily, it is my Lord that is on a straight Path. "If ye turn away,- I (at least) have conveyed the Message with which I was sent to you. My Lord will make another people to succeed you, and you will not harm Him in the least. For my Lord hath care and watch over all things." So when Our decree issued, We saved Hud and those who believed with him, by (special) Grace from Ourselves: We saved them from a severe penalty. Such were the 'Ad People: they rejected the Signs of their Lord and Cherisher; disobeyed His apostles; And followed the command of every powerful, obstinate transgressor. And they were pursued by a Curse in this life,- and on the Day of Judgment. Ah! Behold! for the 'Ad rejected their Lord and Cherisher! Ah! Behold! removed (from sight) were 'Ad the people of Hud! (The Noble Quran, 11:50-60)"

There are more Noble Verses in the Noble Quran about the people of 'Ad, but their Wisdom is similar to the above, which is Worship only GOD Almighty and associate no partners with Him.

There are more stories in the Noble Quran that I can post here, but I believe the above are sufficient enough to prove my point.



Again, the Divine Wisdom from all of the pithy and brief stories in the Noble Quran is to teach the followers of Islam that they must worship only Allah Almighty and associate no partners (gods, idols or humans created from dust) with Him.







2- Examples of figurative speech in the Bible:

On a side note, the many figurative speech in the Bible prove that Jesus must not be MAGNIFIED to the level of the Creator! Please visit my ample refutations to every single "trinitarian" verse at: Answering Trinity section. Anyway, read section 3 below to see ample evidence from the Bible scholars proving that the original manuscripts of the Bible had been lost, and the authors, dates and locations of the "books" and "gospels" of the bible of today are UNKNOWN.

Moving on, here are samples of the figurative speech in the Bible:


GOD Almighty's figurative Temptation:

Luke 11
2 He said to them, "When you pray, say: " 'Father, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come.
3 Give us each day our daily bread.
4 Forgive us our sins, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us. And lead us not into temptation.' "
5 Then he said to them, "Suppose one of you has a friend, and he goes to him at midnight and says, 'Friend, lend me three loaves of bread,

YET, GOD ALMIGHTY DOESN'T TEMPT:

James 1
13When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me." For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone;
14but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed.
15Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full -grown, gives birth to death.

Luke 11:2-5 and James 1:13-15 above, clearly prove that GOD Almighty does allow satan to tempt, not only us but also His Prophets.



GOD Almighty's Hand:

1 Samuel 5
9 But after they had moved it, the LORD's hand was against that city, throwing it into a great panic. He afflicted the people of the city, both young and old, with an outbreak of tumors.
10 So they sent the ark of God to Ekron. As the ark of God was entering Ekron, the people of Ekron cried out, "They have brought the ark of the god of Israel around to us to kill us and our people."
11 So they called together all the rulers of the Philistines and said, "Send the ark of the god of Israel away; let it go back to its own place, or it will kill us and our people." For death had filled the city with panic; God's hand was very heavy upon it.

The verses obviously are not talking about GOD Almighty's physical Arm, Hand and Fingers.



They figuratively saw GOD Almighty:

"Moses and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and the seventy elders of Israel went up and saw the God of Israel. Under his feet was something like a pavement made of sapphire, clear as the sky itself. But God did not raise his hand against these leaders of the Israelites; they saw God, and they ate and drank. (From the NIV Bible, Exodus 24:9-11)"

"Jacob said, "Please tell me your name." But he replied, "Why do you ask my name?" Then he blessed him there. So Jacob called the place Peniel, saying, "It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared." The sun rose above him as he passed Peniel, and he was limping because of his hip. (From the NIV Bible, Genesis 32:29-31)"

"But Esau said, "I already have plenty, my brother. Keep what you have for yourself." "No, please!" said Jacob. "If I have found favor in your eyes, accept this gift from me. For to see your face is like seeing the face of God, now that you have received me favorably. Please accept the present that was brought to you, for God has been gracious to me and I have all I need." And because Jacob insisted, Esau accepted it. (From the NIV Bible, Genesis 33:9-11)"


GOD Almighty figuratively hid His Face from them:

Deuteronomy 31
16 And the LORD said to Moses: "You are going to rest with your fathers, and these people will soon prostitute themselves to the foreign gods of the land they are entering. They will forsake me and break the covenant I made with them.
17 On that day I will become angry with them and forsake them; I will hide my face from them, and they will be destroyed. Many disasters and difficulties will come upon them, and on that day they will ask, 'Have not these disasters come upon us because our God is not with us?'
18 And I will certainly hide my face on that day because of all their wickedness in turning to other gods.

Psalm 27
8 My heart says of you, "Seek his face!" Your face, LORD , I will seek.
9 Do not hide your face from me, do not turn your servant away in anger; you have been my helper. Do not reject me or forsake me, O God my Savior.
10 Though my father and mother forsake me, the LORD will receive me.

Psalm 80
2 before Ephraim, Benjamin and Manasseh. Awaken your might; come and save us.
3 Restore us, O God; make your face shine upon us, that we may be saved.
4 O LORD God Almighty, how long will your anger smolder against the prayers of your people?

Isaiah 59
1 Surely the arm of the LORD is not too short to save, nor his ear too dull to hear.
2 But your iniquities have separated you from your God; your sins have hidden his face from you, so that he will not hear.
3 For your hands are stained with blood, your fingers with guilt. Your lips have spoken lies, and your tongue mutters wicked things.


But in reality and actuality, no one has seen GOD Almighty, because they would then die:

Exodus 3
4 When the LORD saw that he had gone over to look, God called to him from within the bush, "Moses! Moses!"
And Moses said, "Here I am."
5 "Do not come any closer," God said. "Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy ground."
6 Then he said, "I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob." At this, Moses hid his face, because he was afraid to look at God.

Judges 13
21 When the angel of the LORD did not show himself again to Manoah and his wife, Manoah realized that it was the angel of the LORD .
22 "We are doomed to die!" he said to his wife. "We have seen God!"
23 But his wife answered, "If the LORD had meant to kill us, he would not have accepted a burnt offering and grain offering from our hands, nor shown us all these things or now told us this."

1 John 4
11 Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.
12 No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.
13 We know that we live in him and he in us, because he has given us of his Spirit.


Jehovah or Yahweh Almighty was the One and Only LORD! The "God" title was distorted in the Bible. Even satan was called "God":

2 Corinthians 4
3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing.
4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

The word "hotheos" in 2 Corinthians 4:2 which means "God" or "god" was the same exact word used in John 1:1. For more details and proofs please visit: The "God" title was given to people before and after Jesus in the Bible.

Only Yahweh (Jehovah in English) is not figurative. Exactly like no one has ever seen GOD Almighty's Face exactly like Moses is also not figurative.


Can anyone really move a mountain with his eyes?

" Jesus replied, 'I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and it will be done. If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.' (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 21:21)"


Can anyone really survive a poisonous snake's venom without treatment?

"And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well. (From the NIV Bible, Mark 16:17-18)"
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:03pm On Sep 16, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
[s][/s][s]How on earth is Paul comparing greed, sexual immorality and uncaring for family on the same level as idolatry? Idolatry is to go ahead and worship other false Gods. We all commit sins. Man by nature is greedy from time to time. Are you trying to say that the sin of being greedy is on the same level as idolatry? Sexual immorality, not caring for the family, being greedy are indeed great and horrible sins. There is no argument there. However, you can be a sinful believer who does that because you still believe in God. But for a person who does that to be worse than a disbeliever is just going a bit too far[/s].

Incoherent mumbo-jumbo. Is that why Muhammad went and plagiarized the Bible?
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 12:04pm On Sep 16, 2021
Agboriotejoye:


Incoherent mumbo-jumbo. Is that why Muhammad went and plagiarized the Bible?
Lets see the plagiarism


What does the Bible and Quran say about God

-Does God Relax?

-God's Power

-Can God be seen?

-God's Description

-Is God Just?

-Does God sleep?

-Is God Unhelpful?

Who is foolish
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:04pm On Sep 16, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
The Bible (consisting of both the Old and New Testament) is central to Christianity and so are its many myths, stories and parables. But even though many of these myths help to define the religion, some of them are not original – they have been borrowed or copied from other myths from other religions.



Show the religions they were copied from. Is that why Muhammad went ahead and copied the Bible too? It's intellectual fraud man!!
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 12:06pm On Sep 16, 2021
Agboriotejoye:

You are now coming round to accept the plagiarism in your religion
How can the practices in the Bible and Torah suddenly show up in Quran? May I ask why Muhammad claim something that was already existing in Mecca and Medina was "revealed" to him? You can only reveal what is not known not what is known. The Bible and Torah were already existing before Muhammad came with his Quran which shows how he plagiarized them.

All those verses you mentioned are practices of Judaism not Islam. The holy temple is Jerusalem where Muhammad himself used to pray before he diverted to Mecca claiming Angels asked him to. How could he start praying towards Mecca while idol worship was going on there if not that he had plagiarized the Jewish form of worship?
Becca is not Mecca. Stop lying. Becca was a valley close to Jerusalem or do you mean Mecca is close to Jerusalem. One wonders why you headslammers go about seeking validity from the Bible!!
I wilk show you plagiarism in detail...wait and see dont run


What does the Bible and Quran say about Prophet Jesus?

-Was Jesus Crucified and Cursed

-Prophet Jesus' Behavior Towards His Mother

-Prophet Jesus' Behavior Towards People

What the Bible and Quran say about Women

-Women's Original Sin

-Women's Veil

-Women's Role

-Women's Testimony

-Women's Inheritance

-Women's Cleanness

-Women's Right to Worship

-Women's Right to Divorce

Other Teachings and Beliefs

-Faith and Deeds

-The original sin

-Polygamy

-The Biblical and Quranic Styles

-Wisdom and Knowledge

-Racism

-Killing the Enemy's Women and Children

-Languages

-Worship

-Forbidding Evil

-Hypocrisy

-Wine

-Blood Sacrifice

All of these stories differ in the Quran and the Bible...
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 12:08pm On Sep 16, 2021
Agboriotejoye:


Show the religions they were copied from. Is that why Muhammad went ahead and copied the Bible too? It's intellectual fraud man!!
We are talking about your favourite lie of plagiarism....dont run

What the Bible and Quran say about God



Does God Relax?

Bible says:

Exodus 31:17

for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
Genesis 2:2

By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work


God would not even try to compare himself to a man.

All translations say 'rested', not stopped or ceased.

Quran says:

Surah 50:38

We created the heavens and the earth and all between them in Six Days, nor did any sense of weariness touch Us.



Would you rather worship the God of the bible who gets tired and needs to take a rest and needs to be refreshed or worship a God that never gets tired? That being the only true God, the God that revealed the Glorious Quran.


So here also we clearly see how the Quran copied the bible in shamelessly describing God
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:09pm On Sep 16, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
[s][/s]If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? (NIV Bible)

So very clearly the Christians own gospels have Prophet Jesus PBUH clearly saying that the accursed Satan cannot fight himself and be divided against himself or his “kingdom” will fall (again even according to these Christians own corrupted, contradiction filled New Testament). The Holy Qur’an tells us over and over that the accursed Satan (called Shaytan in Arabic) is our WORST enemy

Let us quickly read some of the verses of the Holy Qur’an on this.

Allah SWT tells us to seek refuge with him (that is Allah the Almighty) against the evil of the accursed Satan (Satan is our worst enemy), before we begin reciting Allah SWT’s Holy Qur’an.

Qur’an al-Kareem Surah 16:98- So when you want to recite the Quran, seek refuge with Allah from Shaitan (Satan), the outcast (the cursed one). (Mushin Khan translation)

Surah 2:168- O mankind! Eat of that which is lawful and good on the earth, and follow not the footsteps of Shaitan (Satan). Verily, he is to you an open enemy. (Mushin Khan translation)

Qur’an Surah 26:210-212 (again from the Mushin Khan English translation of the Holy Qur’an)

26:210 And it is not the Shayatin (devils) who have brought it (this Quran) down,

26:211 Neither would it suit them, nor they can (produce it).

26:212 Verily, they have been removed far from hearing it.



Surah 7:200- And if an evil whisper comes to you from Shaitan (Satan) then seek refuge with Allah. Verily, He is All-Hearer, All-Knower. (Mushan Khan translation of the Qur’an)

And many more verses of the Holy Qur’an could be posted, but the reader gets the point that the Holy Qur’an calls on us to worship Allah SWT our blessed, Holy Creator alone and to shun, fight, and hate the evil accursed Satan. Also how exactly could the accursed Satan tell people to give charity, pray 5 times a day, stay away from the evils of alcohol and fornication, etc. oh Christian missionaries answer that! So again Christians that are being honest and keeping with what they themselves believe from the Bible in Luke 11:18, Mark 3:22-26, and Matthew 12:24-26 (where again their own books have Prophet Jesus PBUH saying that “Satan cannot fight/stand against Satan” for if Satan did this logic shows “his kingdom will fall”). These Christian missionaries have to admit the Holy Qur’an can never allegedly be from Satan, and must either be a revelation of God (Allah) or simply something that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) or some other men allegedly made up on their own. And we know the Holy Qur’an was revealed by Allah SWT because of all the miracles in it, that an illiterate man from the Arabian desert could never have made up on his own in the 7th Century CE

Exactly what i'm saying!! How can a slave owner who spent all his lives owning slaves and using women as sex slaves end slavery? Seems your brain is beginning to work small small.

He was an illiterate but he wasn't deaf was he? The biblical stories torah were common in those days. Don't forget Khadijah whom he married to cure his poverty had a cousin who was a Christian. So Muhammad cannot claim ignorance of Bible stories

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