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Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 11:19am On Sep 16, 2021 |
Agboriotejoye:Your conscience confirms it? You don't know? When I see the sun during a bright day, I need no conscience to see it, nor do I think that I see it. I clearly see it. It's there physically loud and clear before my very eyes. I don't need feel-good-victimhood goosebumps delusions to confirm it. In court, an eye witness doesn't say he's unsure or he thinks he saw something if he/she is to be considered a credible witness. This fraud and lie you are forming bare the only tools you have to face a Muslim...no truth but lies and . propaganda on GOD which is clear blasphemy. More delusions and lies will be dealt with |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:23am On Sep 16, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001:You are now coming round to accept the plagiarism in your religion How can the practices in the Bible and Torah suddenly show up in Quran? May I ask why Muhammad claim something that was already existing in Mecca and Medina was "revealed" to him? You can only reveal what is not known not what is known. The Bible and Torah were already existing before Muhammad came with his Quran which shows how he plagiarized them. All those verses you mentioned are practices of Judaism not Islam. The holy temple is Jerusalem where Muhammad himself used to pray before he diverted to Mecca claiming Angels asked him to. How could he start praying towards Mecca while idol worship was going on there if not that he had plagiarized the Jewish form of worship? Becca is not Mecca. Stop lying. Becca was a valley close to Jerusalem or do you mean Mecca is close to Jerusalem. One wonders why you headslammers go about seeking validity from the Bible!! |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 11:23am On Sep 16, 2021 |
Agboriotejoye:Paul blasphemed against God again (like in 1 Corinthians 1:25) in Galatians 1:8 by saying an Angel from Heaven could be lying and condemned!!!! Angels from Heaven obviously could ONLY be sent by God and thus could only be doing Truthful work ordered for them by Almighty God!!! So Paul saw it was easy for people to LIE and claim to be sent by God with revelation from his OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE!!!! He recognized this would likely occur many times again after him sometime in the history of humanity! Also the False Apostle Paul and others in his time knew Jesus(PBUH) was NOT the final Prophet of God (see John 14:16, John Ch. 16, etc.). Paul(knowing he had LIED about receiving revelation) saw that he had to pre-emptively strike and try to defend his LYING legacy by saying that even if an "Angel of God" came it would be lying against him, not the reverse which was the obvious truth that Paul had LIED against Almighty God!!!! What an egoistical LIAR!!!! Finally, Paul again gives NO specifics like names, dates, places, etc. so he is just rambling and makes NO amazing statements once we take everything into consideration!!!! Pagan Christians CANNOT disprove any of the preceding theories as to what Paul was thinking when he wrote Galatians 1:6-9 and they have NO ability to show any alleged "prophecy" once you read the passage and take this ARTICLE into consideration! |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 11:27am On Sep 16, 2021 |
Agboriotejoye:Stop dodging paul I'll disapprove your claim using your bible Becca (Bacca, Baca, Baka) is Mecca in Psalm 84:6: Psalms and the Glorious Quran. - Becca's geography is Mecca. According to (1) Cambridge commentary, (2) Jewish Encyclopedia Volume II, and (3) Encyclopedia Biblica in Arabic and other sources. Ample Jewish and Christian references declare Becca's geography to be modern-day Mecca. |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:27am On Sep 16, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001: How does this incoherent mumbo-jumbo address the plagiarism in the Quran How does it stop Muhammad from being a criminal who murdered people at will? No wonder this guy in this thread went and did same? |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 11:28am On Sep 16, 2021 |
[s] Agboriotejoye:[/s]How on earth is Paul comparing greed, sexual immorality and uncaring for family on the same level as idolatry? Idolatry is to go ahead and worship other false Gods. We all commit sins. Man by nature is greedy from time to time. Are you trying to say that the sin of being greedy is on the same level as idolatry? Sexual immorality, not caring for the family, being greedy are indeed great and horrible sins. There is no argument there. However, you can be a sinful believer who does that because you still believe in God. But for a person who does that to be worse than a disbeliever is just going a bit too far. |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 11:31am On Sep 16, 2021 |
Agboriotejoye:The Bible (consisting of both the Old and New Testament) is central to Christianity and so are its many myths, stories and parables. But even though many of these myths help to define the religion, some of them are not original – they have been borrowed or copied from other myths from other religions. |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:33am On Sep 16, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001:Yeah action like terrorism and suicide bombing. Morality of terrorism and enslaving women and marrying them like a herd of cows? Focus terrorist. Focus on the plagiarism in the Quran which you yourself have unwittingly alluded to |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:36am On Sep 16, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001: Paul is not the subject of debate. The debate is plagiarism is in the Quran. Face this and face peace. |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:37am On Sep 16, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001: How does all this change the plagiarism in the Quran? |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:39am On Sep 16, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001: Hahahaha. Islam ended slavery?!! Slavery is still legal in so many Arabian countries you fool! So Islam ended slavery in the US and the western world but left it intact in the Arabian world. How can Islam end slavery when the founder was a slave owner? Are you now saying Muhammad was wrong to own slaves? |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:42am On Sep 16, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001: Hahahaha. Muhammad ended slavery by owning slaves. This is comedy of the highest order . Are your phantom converts reading this? Muhammad had no qualms killing people who refused his religion but he could not do anything about slavery but had to "stylishly" end it. Which makes Muhammad an hypocrite! |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 11:46am On Sep 16, 2021 |
[s] Agboriotejoye:[/s]If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? (NIV Bible) So very clearly the Christians own gospels have Prophet Jesus PBUH clearly saying that the accursed Satan cannot fight himself and be divided against himself or his “kingdom” will fall (again even according to these Christians own corrupted, contradiction filled New Testament). The Holy Qur’an tells us over and over that the accursed Satan (called Shaytan in Arabic) is our WORST enemy Let us quickly read some of the verses of the Holy Qur’an on this. Allah SWT tells us to seek refuge with him (that is Allah the Almighty) against the evil of the accursed Satan (Satan is our worst enemy), before we begin reciting Allah SWT’s Holy Qur’an. Qur’an al-Kareem Surah 16:98- So when you want to recite the Quran, seek refuge with Allah from Shaitan (Satan), the outcast (the cursed one). (Mushin Khan translation) Surah 2:168- O mankind! Eat of that which is lawful and good on the earth, and follow not the footsteps of Shaitan (Satan). Verily, he is to you an open enemy. (Mushin Khan translation) Qur’an Surah 26:210-212 (again from the Mushin Khan English translation of the Holy Qur’an) 26:210 And it is not the Shayatin (devils) who have brought it (this Quran) down, 26:211 Neither would it suit them, nor they can (produce it). 26:212 Verily, they have been removed far from hearing it. Surah 7:200- And if an evil whisper comes to you from Shaitan (Satan) then seek refuge with Allah. Verily, He is All-Hearer, All-Knower. (Mushan Khan translation of the Qur’an) And many more verses of the Holy Qur’an could be posted, but the reader gets the point that the Holy Qur’an calls on us to worship Allah SWT our blessed, Holy Creator alone and to shun, fight, and hate the evil accursed Satan. Also how exactly could the accursed Satan tell people to give charity, pray 5 times a day, stay away from the evils of alcohol and fornication, etc. oh Christian missionaries answer that! So again Christians that are being honest and keeping with what they themselves believe from the Bible in Luke 11:18, Mark 3:22-26, and Matthew 12:24-26 (where again their own books have Prophet Jesus PBUH saying that “Satan cannot fight/stand against Satan” for if Satan did this logic shows “his kingdom will fall”). These Christian missionaries have to admit the Holy Qur’an can never allegedly be from Satan, and must either be a revelation of God (Allah) or simply something that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) or some other men allegedly made up on their own. And we know the Holy Qur’an was revealed by Allah SWT because of all the miracles in it, that an illiterate man from the Arabian desert could never have made up on his own in the 7th Century CE |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 11:49am On Sep 16, 2021 |
[s] Agboriotejoye:[/s] The truth is clear...make up tour mind and accept it In the meantime i wil keep educating you and the guilible ones here It is a common misconception amongst Christians that Paul and the Apostles of Christ were unanimous in their preaching of a crucified Jesus. Christians think that the apostles and Paul were preaching the same doctrine and everyone believed in the divine Jesus who came to be crucified for the sins of the world. However, if one examines the bible carefully, that person would observe that Paul and the disciples were not preaching the same doctrine and did not believe in the same Jesus. The Apostles in Jerusalem heard that Paul has been preaching a different doctrine in Galatia and Corinthia. Paul was telling them not to follow the law anymore and that they don’t have to eat kosher meat anymore or to be circumcised (according to Genesis 17::14, the covenant is broken if there is no circumcision) etc. So the Apostles went to Galatia and Corinthia and convinced everyone that Paul is wrong, when Paul heard about this he went straight back to the cities……… |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:49am On Sep 16, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001: I thought you said the Bible was filled with false stories. How come you are using the Bibles stories to justify Muhammad? Do you mean Muhammad practiced lies? You should not aprobate and reprobate man. Stay in one place. You even went and quoted Catholic Encyclopedia!! Do you mean you guys are so poor in research that you rely on research from Christians to do your own analysis. If you as a Muslim is relying on the Catholic Encyclopedia, it shows you are following your master who also plagiarized the Bible to form his own religion |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 11:50am On Sep 16, 2021 |
[s] Agboriotejoye:[/s] Galatians 2:11-21 Paul Opposes Peter 11When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he was clearly in the wrong. 12Before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group. ( why did people such as the Apostle James still believe that the law regarding food should still be applied? If Jesus came to replace the law, then why are they still following the law?) 13The other Jews joined him in his hypocrisy, so that by their hypocrisy even Barnabas was led astray. (so, Peter, James and Barnabas are wrong?) |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 11:51am On Sep 16, 2021 |
[s] Agboriotejoye:[/s] it is clear from the Bible it self that not everyone believed in the Jesus who came to get crucified for the sins of the world and to replace the law. That there were different amongst the Apostles and Paul. The Apostles stuck to the true teachings of Jesus, which was upholding the law and that the Apostles who lived with Jesus know him better than Paul who never even saw Jesus except in a "vision". The only deceiver here was Paul and not Allah. |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:51am On Sep 16, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001: How does this justify Muhammad plagiarizing the Bible? That's just wrong!! |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:53am On Sep 16, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001: Is it Paul that asked Muhammad to plagiarize the Quran? You are deviating from the subject of conversation man!! |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 11:54am On Sep 16, 2021 |
[s] Agboriotejoye:[/s]Online you can lie and insult but ofline Christians love to go around smiling at Muslims, saying yes we love you, and God also loves you, yet at the same time they don’t mind insulting our most valued things such as Islam, Allah, the prophet Muhammad and so on. Christians really do make a joke of themselves, do Christians really think that if they insult Islam that will go well with us? Are they so naive to believe that attacking Islam is not attacking a Muslim? So if someone insults your father and mother, you wouldn’t get insulted? Common Christians, stop being such arrogant liars, this is one of the worst things I find in a Christian, they come with smiles and compliments, yet they insult the something to which you hold so dear. Now I am not saying that Christians don’t have a right to insult or critique Islam, no I do not say that. Insult away, the sin will be on your shoulders, however what I am saying is don’t insult Islam and at the same time come tell us you love us and all that other rubbish. The 2 do not mix and Muslims do not buy it. But the Christians are in a problem here, they claim that it is their religion which teaches them to do that, therefore we have a big problem here, and this problem is that their own religion is a cult and an evil liar! How can a God tell you to love someone yet insult everything he believes in? That does not make sense. |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:55am On Sep 16, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001: Explain why Muhammad plagiarized the Bible. Stay focused headslammer. Muhammad's body should be exhumed and locked up in kirikiri for crimes against humanity |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:56am On Sep 16, 2021 |
[quote author=Ibkhaleel001 post=105869792]Fabricated Bible: Allah Almighty Said in the Noble Quran about the fabricated Bible: "Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: "This is from God," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby. (The Noble Quran, 2:79)"[/quote So the Bible is talked about in the Quran? Yet the Quran went ahead and copied same Bible. At least the Quran is not mentioned in the Bible. There we can see who copied who |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:57am On Sep 16, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001: Christianity is a lie yet taqiyya is practiced in Islam. Islam keeps claiming people who have nothing to do with it as Muslims. Jewish religious figures like Abraham, Moses, Joshua, David are suddenly Muslims. Why you dey copy copy? |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:59am On Sep 16, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001: What does this mumbo jumbo have to do with the plagiarism committed by the Quran |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:02pm On Sep 16, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001: So Mecca is close to Jerusalem abi Psalm 84 5 Blessed is the man whose strength is in thee; In whose heart are the highways [to Zion]. Does your Mecca mean weeping and is it in a valley on the way to Zion in Jerusalem? You plagiarists no dey tire? |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 12:02pm On Sep 16, 2021 |
Numbers 16 29 If these men die a natural death and experience only what usually happens to men, then the LORD has not sent me. 30 But if the LORD brings about something totally new, and the earth opens its mouth and swallows them, with everything that belongs to them, and they go down alive into the grave, then you will know that these men have treated the LORD with contempt." 31 As soon as he finished saying all this, the ground under them split apart Note: I believe this is where they were transformed into apes and swines. The earth probably never opened up and swallowed them. Or may be it did after they were shown to everyone. Only Allah Almighty Knows about the exact timing. Very Important Point regarding the Swines and Apes conversion: Since the entire Bible is a rewrite and not the original Holy Word of GOD Almighty as clearly proven by the bible's own theologians' quotes and detailed analysis on every "book" and "gospel", it is quite possible that the writers of the Bible got the narration about the earth opening up and swallowing them wrong. It was rather when they turned into apes and swines and literally disappeared completely from the rest of the Israelites, people thought that the earth opened up and swallowed them. Even today people use the public saying "Did the earth open up and swallow him?" when referring to someone who can't be found! 12- The story of building Noah's Ark is brief. The details of how the ark was built, what material was used to build it, how many people helped in building it, and how long it took to build it are not mentioned in the Noble Quran. Allah Almighty only Gave brief and pithy details: "We sent Noah to his people (with a mission): "I have come to you with a Clear Warning: "That ye serve none but God: Verily I do fear for you the penalty of a grievous day." But the chiefs of the Unbelievers among his people said: "We see (in) thee nothing but a man like ourselves: Nor do we see that any follow thee but the meanest among us, in judgment immature: Nor do we see in you (all) any merit above us: in fact we thing ye are liars!" He said: "O my people! See ye if (it be that) I have a Clear Sign from my Lord, and that He hath sent Mercy unto me from His own presence, but that the Mercy hath been obscured from your sight? shall we compel you to accept it when ye are averse to it? "And O my people! I ask you for no wealth in return: my reward is from none but God: But I will not drive away (in contempt) those who believe: for verily they are to meet their Lord, and ye I see are the ignorant ones! "And O my people! who would help me against God if I drove them away? Will ye not then take heed? "I tell you not that with me are the treasures of God, nor do I know what is hidden, nor claim I to be an angel. Nor yet do I say, of those whom your eyes do despise that God will not grant them (all) that is good: God knoweth best what is in their souls: I should, if I did, indeed be a wrong-doer." They said: "O Noah! thou hast disputed with us, and (much) hast thou prolonged the dispute with us: now bring upon us what thou threatenest us with, if thou speakest the truth!?" He said: "Truly, God will bring it on you if He wills,- and then, ye will not be able to frustrate it! "Of no profit will be my counsel to you, much as I desire to give you (good) counsel, if it be that God willeth to leave you astray: He is your Lord! and to Him will ye return!" Or do they say, "He has forged it"? Say: "If I had forged it, on me were my sin! and I am free of the sins of which ye are guilty! It was revealed to Noah: "None of thy people will believe except those who have believed already! So grieve no longer over their (evil) deeds. "But construct an Ark under Our eyes and Our inspiration, and address Me no (further) on behalf of those who are in sin: for they are about to be overwhelmed (in the Flood)." Forthwith he (starts) constructing the Ark: Every time that the chiefs of his people passed by him, they threw ridicule on him. He said: "If ye ridicule us now, we (in our turn) can look down on you with ridicule likewise! "But soon will ye know who it is on whom will descend a penalty that will cover them with shame,- on whom will be unloosed a penalty lasting:" At length, behold! there came Our command, and the fountains of the earth gushed forth! We said: "Embark therein, of each kind two, male and female, and your family - except those against whom the word has already gone forth,- and the Believers." but only a few believed with him. So he said: "Embark ye on the Ark, In the name of God, whether it move or be at rest! For my Lord is, be sure, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful!" (The Noble Quran, 11:25-41)" 13- The story of the Great Flood was also mentioned in the Noble Quran in briefly: "So the Ark floated with them on the waves (towering) like mountains, and Noah called out to his son, who had separated himself (from the rest): "O my son! embark with us, and be not with the unbelievers!" The son replied: "I will betake myself to some mountain: it will save me from the water." Noah said: "This day nothing can save, from the command of God, any but those on whom He hath mercy! "And the waves came between them, and the son was among those overwhelmed in the Flood. Then the word went forth: "O earth! swallow up thy water, and O sky! Withhold (thy rain)!" and the water abated, and the matter was ended. The Ark rested on Mount Judi, and the word went forth: "Away with those who do wrong!" And Noah called upon his Lord, and said: "O my Lord! surely my son is of my family! and Thy promise is true, and Thou art the justest of Judges!" He said: "O Noah! He is not of thy family: For his conduct is unrighteous. So ask not of Me that of which thou hast no knowledge! I give thee counsel, lest thou act like the ignorant!" Noah said: "O my Lord! I do seek refuge with Thee, lest I ask Thee for that of which I have no knowledge. And unless thou forgive me and have Mercy on me, I should indeed be lost!" (The Noble Quran, 11:42-47)" 14- The ending of the flood was also mentioned briefly: "The word came: "O Noah! Come down (from the Ark) with peace from Us, and blessing on thee and on some of the peoples (who will spring) from those with thee: but (there will be other) peoples to whom We shall grant their pleasures (for a time), but in the end will a grievous penalty reach them from Us." Such are some of the stories of the unseen, which We have revealed unto thee: before this, neither thou nor thy people knew them. So persevere patiently: for the End is for those who are righteous. (The Noble Quran, 11:48-49)" "Then the word went forth: "O earth! swallow up thy water, and O sky! Withhold (thy rain)!" and the water abated, and the matter was ended. The Ark rested on Mount Judi, and the word went forth: "Away with those who do wrong!" (The Noble Quran, 11:44)" 15- The story of the people of 'Ad was also mentioned briefly: "To the 'Ad People (We sent) Hud, one of their own brethren. He said: "O my people! worship God! ye have no other god but Him. (Your other gods) ye do nothing but invent! "O my people! I ask of you no reward for this (Message). My reward is from none but Him who created me: Will ye not then understand? "And O my people! Ask forgiveness of your Lord, and turn to Him (in repentance): He will send you the skies pouring abundant rain, and add strength to your strength: so turn ye not back in sin!" They said: "O Hud! No Clear (Sign) that hast thou brought us, and we are not the ones to desert our gods on thy word! Nor shall we believe in thee! "We say nothing but that (perhaps) some of our gods may have seized thee with imbecility." He said: "I call God to witness, and do ye bear witness, that I am free from the sin of ascribing, to Him, "Other gods as partners! so scheme (your worst) against me, all of you, and give me no respite. "I put my trust in God, My Lord and your Lord! There is not a moving creature, but He hath grasp of its fore-lock. Verily, it is my Lord that is on a straight Path. "If ye turn away,- I (at least) have conveyed the Message with which I was sent to you. My Lord will make another people to succeed you, and you will not harm Him in the least. For my Lord hath care and watch over all things." So when Our decree issued, We saved Hud and those who believed with him, by (special) Grace from Ourselves: We saved them from a severe penalty. Such were the 'Ad People: they rejected the Signs of their Lord and Cherisher; disobeyed His apostles; And followed the command of every powerful, obstinate transgressor. And they were pursued by a Curse in this life,- and on the Day of Judgment. Ah! Behold! for the 'Ad rejected their Lord and Cherisher! Ah! Behold! removed (from sight) were 'Ad the people of Hud! (The Noble Quran, 11:50-60)" There are more Noble Verses in the Noble Quran about the people of 'Ad, but their Wisdom is similar to the above, which is Worship only GOD Almighty and associate no partners with Him. There are more stories in the Noble Quran that I can post here, but I believe the above are sufficient enough to prove my point. Again, the Divine Wisdom from all of the pithy and brief stories in the Noble Quran is to teach the followers of Islam that they must worship only Allah Almighty and associate no partners (gods, idols or humans created from dust) with Him. 2- Examples of figurative speech in the Bible: On a side note, the many figurative speech in the Bible prove that Jesus must not be MAGNIFIED to the level of the Creator! Please visit my ample refutations to every single "trinitarian" verse at: Answering Trinity section. Anyway, read section 3 below to see ample evidence from the Bible scholars proving that the original manuscripts of the Bible had been lost, and the authors, dates and locations of the "books" and "gospels" of the bible of today are UNKNOWN. Moving on, here are samples of the figurative speech in the Bible: GOD Almighty's figurative Temptation: Luke 11 2 He said to them, "When you pray, say: " 'Father, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. 3 Give us each day our daily bread. 4 Forgive us our sins, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us. And lead us not into temptation.' " 5 Then he said to them, "Suppose one of you has a friend, and he goes to him at midnight and says, 'Friend, lend me three loaves of bread, YET, GOD ALMIGHTY DOESN'T TEMPT: James 1 13When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me." For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; 14but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed. 15Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full -grown, gives birth to death. Luke 11:2-5 and James 1:13-15 above, clearly prove that GOD Almighty does allow satan to tempt, not only us but also His Prophets. GOD Almighty's Hand: 1 Samuel 5 9 But after they had moved it, the LORD's hand was against that city, throwing it into a great panic. He afflicted the people of the city, both young and old, with an outbreak of tumors. 10 So they sent the ark of God to Ekron. As the ark of God was entering Ekron, the people of Ekron cried out, "They have brought the ark of the god of Israel around to us to kill us and our people." 11 So they called together all the rulers of the Philistines and said, "Send the ark of the god of Israel away; let it go back to its own place, or it will kill us and our people." For death had filled the city with panic; God's hand was very heavy upon it. The verses obviously are not talking about GOD Almighty's physical Arm, Hand and Fingers. They figuratively saw GOD Almighty: "Moses and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and the seventy elders of Israel went up and saw the God of Israel. Under his feet was something like a pavement made of sapphire, clear as the sky itself. But God did not raise his hand against these leaders of the Israelites; they saw God, and they ate and drank. (From the NIV Bible, Exodus 24:9-11)" "Jacob said, "Please tell me your name." But he replied, "Why do you ask my name?" Then he blessed him there. So Jacob called the place Peniel, saying, "It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared." The sun rose above him as he passed Peniel, and he was limping because of his hip. (From the NIV Bible, Genesis 32:29-31)" "But Esau said, "I already have plenty, my brother. Keep what you have for yourself." "No, please!" said Jacob. "If I have found favor in your eyes, accept this gift from me. For to see your face is like seeing the face of God, now that you have received me favorably. Please accept the present that was brought to you, for God has been gracious to me and I have all I need." And because Jacob insisted, Esau accepted it. (From the NIV Bible, Genesis 33:9-11)" GOD Almighty figuratively hid His Face from them: Deuteronomy 31 16 And the LORD said to Moses: "You are going to rest with your fathers, and these people will soon prostitute themselves to the foreign gods of the land they are entering. They will forsake me and break the covenant I made with them. 17 On that day I will become angry with them and forsake them; I will hide my face from them, and they will be destroyed. Many disasters and difficulties will come upon them, and on that day they will ask, 'Have not these disasters come upon us because our God is not with us?' 18 And I will certainly hide my face on that day because of all their wickedness in turning to other gods. Psalm 27 8 My heart says of you, "Seek his face!" Your face, LORD , I will seek. 9 Do not hide your face from me, do not turn your servant away in anger; you have been my helper. Do not reject me or forsake me, O God my Savior. 10 Though my father and mother forsake me, the LORD will receive me. Psalm 80 2 before Ephraim, Benjamin and Manasseh. Awaken your might; come and save us. 3 Restore us, O God; make your face shine upon us, that we may be saved. 4 O LORD God Almighty, how long will your anger smolder against the prayers of your people? Isaiah 59 1 Surely the arm of the LORD is not too short to save, nor his ear too dull to hear. 2 But your iniquities have separated you from your God; your sins have hidden his face from you, so that he will not hear. 3 For your hands are stained with blood, your fingers with guilt. Your lips have spoken lies, and your tongue mutters wicked things. But in reality and actuality, no one has seen GOD Almighty, because they would then die: Exodus 3 4 When the LORD saw that he had gone over to look, God called to him from within the bush, "Moses! Moses!" And Moses said, "Here I am." 5 "Do not come any closer," God said. "Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy ground." 6 Then he said, "I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob." At this, Moses hid his face, because he was afraid to look at God. Judges 13 21 When the angel of the LORD did not show himself again to Manoah and his wife, Manoah realized that it was the angel of the LORD . 22 "We are doomed to die!" he said to his wife. "We have seen God!" 23 But his wife answered, "If the LORD had meant to kill us, he would not have accepted a burnt offering and grain offering from our hands, nor shown us all these things or now told us this." 1 John 4 11 Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. 12 No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us. 13 We know that we live in him and he in us, because he has given us of his Spirit. Jehovah or Yahweh Almighty was the One and Only LORD! The "God" title was distorted in the Bible. Even satan was called "God": 2 Corinthians 4 3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. The word "hotheos" in 2 Corinthians 4:2 which means "God" or "god" was the same exact word used in John 1:1. For more details and proofs please visit: The "God" title was given to people before and after Jesus in the Bible. Only Yahweh (Jehovah in English) is not figurative. Exactly like no one has ever seen GOD Almighty's Face exactly like Moses is also not figurative. Can anyone really move a mountain with his eyes? " Jesus replied, 'I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and it will be done. If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.' (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 21:21)" Can anyone really survive a poisonous snake's venom without treatment? "And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well. (From the NIV Bible, Mark 16:17-18)" |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:03pm On Sep 16, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001: Incoherent mumbo-jumbo. Is that why Muhammad went and plagiarized the Bible? |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 12:04pm On Sep 16, 2021 |
Agboriotejoye:Lets see the plagiarism What does the Bible and Quran say about God -Does God Relax? -God's Power -Can God be seen? -God's Description -Is God Just? -Does God sleep? -Is God Unhelpful? Who is foolish |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:04pm On Sep 16, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001: Show the religions they were copied from. Is that why Muhammad went ahead and copied the Bible too? It's intellectual fraud man!! |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 12:06pm On Sep 16, 2021 |
Agboriotejoye:I wilk show you plagiarism in detail...wait and see dont run What does the Bible and Quran say about Prophet Jesus? -Was Jesus Crucified and Cursed -Prophet Jesus' Behavior Towards His Mother -Prophet Jesus' Behavior Towards People What the Bible and Quran say about Women -Women's Original Sin -Women's Veil -Women's Role -Women's Testimony -Women's Inheritance -Women's Cleanness -Women's Right to Worship -Women's Right to Divorce Other Teachings and Beliefs -Faith and Deeds -The original sin -Polygamy -The Biblical and Quranic Styles -Wisdom and Knowledge -Racism -Killing the Enemy's Women and Children -Languages -Worship -Forbidding Evil -Hypocrisy -Wine -Blood Sacrifice All of these stories differ in the Quran and the Bible... |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Ibkhaleel001: 12:08pm On Sep 16, 2021 |
Agboriotejoye:We are talking about your favourite lie of plagiarism....dont run What the Bible and Quran say about God Does God Relax? Bible says: Exodus 31:17 for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. Genesis 2:2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work God would not even try to compare himself to a man. All translations say 'rested', not stopped or ceased. Quran says: Surah 50:38 We created the heavens and the earth and all between them in Six Days, nor did any sense of weariness touch Us. Would you rather worship the God of the bible who gets tired and needs to take a rest and needs to be refreshed or worship a God that never gets tired? That being the only true God, the God that revealed the Glorious Quran. So here also we clearly see how the Quran copied the bible in shamelessly describing God |
Re: Man Searched Quran For Forgiveness Of Murder, Before Slashing Ex-wife's Throat by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:09pm On Sep 16, 2021 |
Ibkhaleel001: Exactly what i'm saying!! How can a slave owner who spent all his lives owning slaves and using women as sex slaves end slavery? Seems your brain is beginning to work small small. He was an illiterate but he wasn't deaf was he? The biblical stories torah were common in those days. Don't forget Khadijah whom he married to cure his poverty had a cousin who was a Christian. So Muhammad cannot claim ignorance of Bible stories |
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