Ibkhaleel001:
You and Paul will see shege today...
To further disgrace himself in the bible Paul says...

2 Corinthians 12:16

Be that as it may, I have not been a burden to you. Yet, crafty (panourgos) fellow that I am, I caught you by trickery (dolos)!


Paul refers to himself as a 'crafty' fellow. The word in Greek is panourgos, which could mean...

1) skilful, clever

a) in a good sense, fit to undertake and accomplish anything, dexterous, wise, sagacious, skilful

b) in a bad sense, crafty, cunning, knavish, treacherous, deceitful

Do you wanna follow the footstep of Saint Paul

Paul said he caught them with trickery according to you, yet you are angry. Would you have been happy if he caught them by force and violence as Muhammad did? Would you have been happy if he struck their necks and cut off their limbs simply because they refused to believe him?
Is that not a crime? Anyone who kills should be killed. No wonder Muhammad ended up poisoned for his violence.

Besides, what greater trickery exists than plagiarism? Is plagiarism not a crime and a trick employed by intellectual fraudsters to claim what does not belong to them?

Agboriotejoye:


Another tissue of nonsense. The topic is the plagiarism of the Quran not Paul's teaching on divorce. Why are you dancing around?

You said Paul was a Jew and yet said people should not divorce. Therefore the Holy Spirit did not inspire him since Jesus gave a condition for divorce. Again I will not go into the fallacy of your argument but the lack of commonsense therein. If Paul said people should not divorce in conflict with Jewish teachings and Jesus also only gave a narrow option for divorce, how does that contradict each other?

Is that why Muhammad went about marrying eleven women including 9 year old Aisha? Do you realize that if Muhammad were to be alive now and in Nigeria, he would be in jail for committing child molestation? Why didn't Allah tell him it is wrong and criminal to make a child a bride? He must be a false prophet!!

Prophet Muhammad's marriage with Aisha was 100% legal and acceptable by all laws and Divine Religions!



So to call Prophet Muhammad a pedophile for marrying a girl that was OFFERED TO HIM by her parents and was accepted by all of the people back then including the enemies of Islam, the pagans, is quite absurd.

The pedophilia in the bible was quite different, because girls were raped at 3-years of age by Moses and his men.

Also, in Exodus 21:7-11 as further elaborated on below, girls were sold off as slave girls by their own fathers to other men. So most certainly, no one is qualified to call the Prophet of Islam a pedophile!

Agboriotejoye:


Paul said he caught them with trickery according to you, yet you are angry. Would you have been happy if he caught them by force and violence as Muhammad did? Would you have been happy if he struck their necks and cut off their limbs simply because they refused to believe him?
Is that not a crime? Anyone who kills should be killed. No wonder Muhammad ended up poisoned for his violence.

Besides, what greater trickery exists than plagiarism? Is plagiarism not a crime and a trick employed by intellectual fraudsters to claim what does not belong to them?

Paul will disapoint you today


Islam is a Religion of action; Christianity is a religion of fabulous words. It does not have the answers to the problems of mankind. Islam superiorly has the solutions to the problems of mankind, the social corruptions in the society.



Islam demands a very high standard of morality which fixes the problems of the world. It’s is a Challenge to religion; a complete system of Life. The lawlessness of Christianity cannot be denied, since Christianity is based on emotions and not history.

Jesus taught the very opposite of what Christianity teaches today. The purpose of Jesus’ mission was to preach the Torah, not to be crucified. He taught salvation came through observing the Law, and not by the ‘eloquent words’ of the later Church. Jesus declared in Matthew 17:21 that salvation is attained through “fasting and prayer”.

Agboriotejoye:


Another tissue of nonsense. When are you going to face the plagiarism carried out by that serial criminal called Muhammad?

Fathers can sell their daughters as slave girls to other men in the Bible:

Exodus 21:7-11
7. "If a man sells his daughter as a female slave, she is not to go free as the male slaves do.
8. "If she is displeasing in the eyes of her master who designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He does not have authority to sell her to a foreign people because of his unfairness to her.
9. "If he designates her for his son [Note: "his son" means that the master is either her father's age or even much older!], he shall deal with her according to the custom of daughters.
10. "If he takes to himself another woman, he may not reduce her food, her clothing, or her conjugal rights.
11. "If he will not do these three things for her, then she shall go out for nothing, without payment of money.

First of all, did the daughter have any choice to be sold off by her father, married off by her master to either himself or his son? No!

Also, the fact that the master can either marry her or marry her off to his son, means that MOST LIKELY, SHE IS HIS DAUGHTER'S AGE and younger than his son!! So he's probably at least 30+ years older than her. Yet, he himself (her father's age or even MUCH older) can marry her.

Ibkhaleel001:
Prophet Muhammad's marriage with Aisha was 100% legal and acceptable by all laws and Divine Religions!



So to call Prophet Muhammad a pedophile for marrying a girl that was OFFERED TO HIM by her parents and was accepted by all of the people back then including the enemies of Islam, the pagans, is quite absurd.

The pedophilia in the bible was quite different, because girls were raped at 3-years of age by Moses and his men.

Also, in Exodus 21:7-11 as further elaborated on below, girls were sold off as slave girls by their own fathers to other men. So most certainly, no one is qualified to call the Prophet of Islam a pedophile!

Stop lying. If you take Muhammad to US, UK, Nigeria and about 199 other countries in the world today, he will be facing 14 years jail term!!

Is the prophet so driven by greed that he takes whatever is offered him without thinking of the consequence as long as his libido is fed?

I thought the Bible was false. How come you are using Exodus and the acts of Moses to justify that of Muhammad. At least Moses can claim God asked him to do what he did which you are claiming in furtherance of your lies.
Can Muhammad show us where God asked him to defile innocent 9 year old Aisha? Oh I weep for Aisha's virgin kpekus

Lastly, do you mean Muhammad plagiarized the practice of marrying underaged girls from the old testament? Are you now coming around to reality?

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Agboriotejoye:


Paul said he caught them with trickery according to you, yet you are angry. Would you have been happy if he caught them by force and violence as Muhammad did? Would you have been happy if he struck their necks and cut off their limbs simply because they refused to believe him?
Is that not a crime? Anyone who kills should be killed. No wonder Muhammad ended up poisoned for his violence.

Besides, what greater trickery exists than plagiarism? Is plagiarism not a crime and a trick employed by intellectual fraudsters to claim what does not belong to them?

[/s]Fathers sticking their fingers into their daughters' vaginas before marriage in the Bible.

Also, the fact that there is no AGE LIMIT to how girls in the Bible were sold off and married off to other men, WITHOUT ANY CHOICE, who were much much older than them as also the case with the Biblical Prophets who married 100s of wives each clearly proves the hypocrisy of some Christians who attack Islam through Aisha's very young age, while they clearly ignore the same fact in their own Bible. Here is a sample of the 100s of wives of the Biblical Prophets:

In Exodus 21:10, a man can marry an infinite amount of women without any limits to how many he can marry.

In 2 Samuel 5:13; 1 Chronicles 3:1-9, 14:3, King David had six wives and numerous concubines.

In 1 Kings 11:3, King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.

In 2 Chronicles 11:21, King Solomon's son Rehoboam had 18 wives and 60 concubines.

The fact that his own Biblical Prophets married 100s of wives each and fathers used to sell their daughters as slave girls to other men without any age limit makes it extremely possible and probable that several if not many of these wives were little girls between 9 to 13, while the Prophets were MUCH MUCH OLDER than them. If your own grandmother who exited THOUSANDS of years later still married at 12, then what makes it impossible for girls during Biblical times to have married way much older men than them when they were little ones?

Since there is no age limit for the girl to be sold by her own father as a slave girl to another man, WHO CAN HAVE SEX WITH HER, then I want to ask you

Aren't you a total hypocrite for denying that little girls were sold off and married off during biblical times at very young age to much much older men , while making fierce charges against Islam on Aisha's age?


How old was Mary the mother of your man god when she gave birth to Jesus?

Agboriotejoye:


Stop lying. If you take Muhammad to US, UK, Nigeria and about 199 other countries in the world today, he will be facing 14 years jail term!!

Is the prophet so driven by greed that he takes whatever is offered him without thinking of the consequence as long as his libido is fed?

I thought the Bible was false. How come you are using Exodus and the acts of Moses to justify that of Muhammad. At least Moses can claim God asked him to do what he did which you are claiming in furtherance of your lies.
Can Muhammad show us where God asked him to defile innocent 9 year old Aisha? Oh I weep for Aisha's virgin kpekus

Lastly, do you mean Muhammad plagiarized the practice of marrying underaged girls from the old testament? Are you now coming around to reality?

Aisha's mother and the Muslim women back then were ok with her marriage. It was part of the Arab custom and still is in many of the Muslim and non-Muslim countries today for girls to marry at a very young age. When a girl's body starts showing up (her breasts and her height and physical size), then she would be ready for marriage. This is further elaborated on in the "The Middle Eastern and other Cultures" and "What about Aisha's parents (mon and dad), are they too "Child Molesters"?" and "The life span 1400 years ago was very short"

Your charge is a terrible unfair attack on Islam because it doesn't apply to our beloved prophet in anyway!

What about Mary, Jesus' Mother peace be upon both of them? How old was she when she got pregnant?

Not only was it a custom in the Arab society to Engage/Marry a young girl it was also common in the Jewish society. The case of Mary the mother of Jesus comes to mind, in non biblical sources she was between 11-14 years old when she conceived Jesus. Mary had already been "BETROTHED" to Joseph before conceiving Jesus. Joseph was a much older man. therefore Mary was younger than 11-14 years of age when she was "BETHROED" to Joseph. We Muslims would never call Joseph a Child Molester, nor would we refer to the "Holy Ghost" of the Bible, that "Impregnated" Mary as a "Rapist" or "Adulterer".

Ibkhaleel001:
lol so you've had enough about plagiarized Fabricated bible and you are now turning to the marriage of our Prophet

Hahaha running away from topics will not save your ass today...

I can deal with any topic you bring and pose you challenges you cant handle ..

Aisha in Islam:

Let's discuss the age of Aisha being 9 when she married our Prophet in Islam!

First of all, it is important to know:

Aisha's parents were the ones who married her to our Prophet, and that no Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it was widely practiced. And even until today in 3rd world countries (Muslims and non-Muslims), little girls as young as 9 or 10 do get married. Anyway, the reason no one objected was to the Prophet's marriage was:

People used to have very short life-spans in Arabia. They used to live between 40 to 60 years maximum. So it was only normal and natural for girls to be married off at ages 9 or 10 or similar.

Marriage for young girls was widely practiced among Arabs back then, and even today in many third-world non-Muslim and Muslim countries.

It is important to know that girls during the Islamic days used to be married at young ages when they either had their first periods, or their breasts start showing off. In other words, when they turn into "women", then they would be suitable for marriage. It was quite different for men on the other hand, because physical power and the ability of living an independent life had always been and will always be a mandatory requirement for men to have in life. So men waited much longer than women in terms of getting married. The guy had to develop both his body and mind before he was ready for marriage.

That is why you see girls as young as 9 or 10 were married to men as old as 30 or even older. The culture back then and in many third world countries today (NON-MUSLIM ONES TOO) is quite different than what you live in today.



Prophet Muhammad's marriage with Aisha was 100% legal and acceptable by all laws and Divine Religions!

Stop lying. Nigeria and Benin are third world countries and child marriage is a crime there!! If Muhammad were to be in Lagos state today with poor 9 year old Aisha, he would be heading straight to kirikiri!!

As a prophet, was he supposed to bow to the customs of pagan Arabs and covet a poor 9 year old breast? Which breast 9 year old get? You guys are just deranged.
You still did not attend to the issue of plagiarism starring at you o

Ibkhaleel001:
Online liar are you ready for the debate....give me your phone number I'll come over to your place!

The truth needs to be publicized for people to see!

Dont be a coward like the rest of the Christian s lying and insulting people online

Be bold enough to defend your wrecked faith...accept the challenge and see shege

Sorry. I don't meet with terrorists. Let's do the debate here. Open a thread

Agboriotejoye:


Stop lying. If you take Muhammad to US, UK, Nigeria and about 199 other countries in the world today, he will be facing 14 years jail term!!

Is the prophet so driven by greed that he takes whatever is offered him without thinking of the consequence as long as his libido is fed?

I thought the Bible was false. How come you are using Exodus and the acts of Moses to justify that of Muhammad. At least Moses can claim God asked him to do what he did which you are claiming in furtherance of your lies.
Can Muhammad show us where God asked him to defile innocent 9 year old Aisha? Oh I weep for Aisha's virgin kpekus

Lastly, do you mean Muhammad plagiarized the practice of marrying underaged girls from the old testament? Are you now coming around to reality?

Simply because your sisters are alowed to wallow in prostitution you see anything opposite of it as bad..

Joseph, Mary's husband, was "90 years old" when he married 12 to 14-year old Mary! Was he too a pedophile?

I enjoy debunking Hypocrisy of Jews & Christians

It is quite hypocritical of Jews and Christian to criticize the marriage of Aisha. Talmud (Jewish scripture) says:

"Marrying off one's daughter as soon after she reaches adulthood as possible, even to one's Slave. (From the Talmud, Pesachim 113a)"

Ibkhaleel001:


PAUL EXPOSED IN MY HANDS TODAY

Paul, the founder of Christianity, rejected the message of Jesus (and everything he stood for) while replacing the Gospel with his own distorted version.

CAN YOU DENY THIS?

The message of Jesus was pure and simple, the complete submission and surrender to God alone. He preached the religion of Islam; he fasted and prayed in the manner taught by the Prophets before him. He abstained from eating pork and drinking wine.

Paul rejected these laws and concocted his own religion, claiming “salvation comes through faith only” (sound familiar?) and not physical action or bodily prayer.

The Bible teaches the exact opposite, the stories of the Prophets teach us that salvation is attained through fasting, physical prayer, and righteous deeds, not just having faith, which is merely an article required in any organized religion.

CAN YOU NOW SEE HOW PAUL DECEIVED YOU GUYS?

ANYWAY YOU HAVE EARS BUT CANT HEAR, EYES BUT CANT SEE...

DEAF DUMB AND BLIND PEOPLE

Show Moses, Abraham, Jesus observing the Ramadan, praying salat, giving zakat, going on pilgrimage to Mecca.
Lastly, when will you respond to the plagiarism by your criminal prophet

Ibkhaleel001:
When i finish beating paul I'll turn back and explain to you Taqiyya in details... because it seems you lack the brain to understand what islam is really standing bfor instead you chose to cherry pick things you do not have full understanding of and take then as points bto bash Islam....

Unknown to you that you are only digging your grave

Explain the plagiarism and then taqiyya. Plagiarism first!!

Agboriotejoye:


Sorry. I don't meet with terrorists. Let's do the debate here. Open a thread

So your life revolves around allegations and lies? I dont blame you for calling me a Terrorist this show how i habe terorisised your lies and empty hatred....

We are already doing it..are you confused...dont run pls stay and continue digging your grave

Agboriotejoye:


Explain the plagiarism and then taqiyya. Plagiarism first!!

scroll up and read them av finshed with that two days back...

Are you deaf and dumb to see?

Agboriotejoye:


Show Moses, Abraham, Jesus observing the Ramadan, praying salat, giving zakat, going on pilgrimage to Mecca.
Lastly, when will you respond to the plagiarism by your criminal prophet

The Islamic Rituals of Worship are all supported in the Bible:

The Islamic Fasting, Prostrating to GOD Almighty in Worship, Doing Pilgrimage are all pillars of the Original Faith, and each one of them is supported in the Bible's Scriptures, and also outside of the Bible's Scriptures. 

See Psalm 138:2 “I will bow to you in the direction of your Holy Temple.”,

Genesis 28:16-18.

Judges 20:18.

1 Chronicles 6:47-49.

Numbers 24:3-5.

Deuteronomy 9:17-19.

Deuteronomy 9:25.

1 Kings 18:39.

Matthew 26:39 (Jeusus worshiped the Muslims’ way).

Genesis 47:9.

Psalm 119:54.

Nehemiah 9:1.

Esther 4:3.

Psalm 35:13.

Psalm 69:10.

Daniel 6:18.

Matthew 15:32.

The Bible's fasting is not eating and drinking:  Luke5:33 They said to him, “John’s disciples often fast and pray, and so do the disciples of the Pharisees, but yours go on eating and drinking.”

The Bible also called the path to Mecca "THE PATH OF HOLINESS".

It was the pagans who plagiarized Islam's practices, not the other way around.  The Bible also declares it.

Becca is Mecca in Psalm 4:6.  According to (1) Cambridge commentary, (2) Jewish Encyclopedia and (3) Encyclopedia Biblica in Arabic and other sources.  Ample Jewish and Christian references declare Becca's geography to be modern-day Mecca:

Agboriotejoye:


Explain the plagiarism and then taqiyya. Plagiarism first!!

Your tactics of empty rantings wil never distract me from exposing you ....

Jesus came to uphold the Mosaic Law and restore its teachings which had been discarded; he never founded a new religion. The followers of Jesus regarded him as the ‘new Moses’ sent to the Children of Israel. Jesus declared he was only sent to the Jews.



Paul is the founder of Christianity who established lawlessness; the doctrine of “salvation through faith only” is simply an echoing of Paul’s words and distorted teachings.

You Christians are following the anti-Christ without knowing it.



“If Christianity needed an Anti-Christ, they need look no further than Paul”

Agboriotejoye:


Sorry. I don't meet with terrorists. Let's do the debate here. Open a thread

I have already noted that every teaching of Jesus was already in the literature of the day….. Paul, the founder of Christianity, the writer of half the NT, almost never quotes Jesus in his letters and writings. Did he?


Paul rejected the Jewish Law (Torah) and fabricated a religion called “Christianity” which deviated from the teachings of Jesus, transforming him into a god.

No doubt about all that i have said

Agboriotejoye:


Explain the plagiarism and then taqiyya. Plagiarism first!!

Paul is a liar, he claims to follow the Law of Christ when the Law of Christ was the observance of the Torah (Matthew 5:17-20) the very Law that he strongly rejected! The hypocrisy of Paul is further exposed in the following verse:



For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner? (Romans 3:7, King James Version)



But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner? (English Standard Version)



But if the truth of God through my lie abounded unto his glory, why am I also still judged as a sinner? (American Standard Version)

Ibkhaleel001:
Fathers can sell their daughters as slave girls to other men in the Bible:

Exodus 21:7-11
7. "If a man sells his daughter as a female slave, she is not to go free as the male slaves do.
8. "If she is displeasing in the eyes of her master who designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He does not have authority to sell her to a foreign people because of his unfairness to her.
9. "If he designates her for his son [Note: "his son" means that the master is either her father's age or even much older!], he shall deal with her according to the custom of daughters.
10. "If he takes to himself another woman, he may not reduce her food, her clothing, or her conjugal rights.
11. "If he will not do these three things for her, then she shall go out for nothing, without payment of money.

First of all, did the daughter have any choice to be sold off by her father, married off by her master to either himself or his son? No!

Also, the fact that the master can either marry her or marry her off to his son, means that MOST LIKELY, SHE IS HIS DAUGHTER'S AGE and younger than his son!! So he's probably at least 30+ years older than her. Yet, he himself (her father's age or even MUCH older) can marry her.

You're condemning the Bible for encouraging slavery? Do you realize Muhammad owned slaves? If he was alive now, he would be in jail for slave trading. Slave trading is a crime bro. Jesus Christ who is our Lord and savior never owned slaves though. He is upright in the eyes of both men and God from ages to ages. No need to stand up and explain any of his crimes cause he has no crime attached to him.

However, if Muhammad owned slaves because the Quran allowed him to and surprising, same is found in the Old Testament, is this not further proof that he plagiarized the Bible? That's just wrong!!

Agboriotejoye:


You're condemning the Bible for encouraging slavery? Do you realize Muhammad owned slaves? If he was alive now, he would be in jail for slave trading. Slave trading is a crime bro. Jesus Christ who is our Lord and savior never owned slaves though. He is upright in the eyes of both men and God from ages to ages. No need to stand up and explain any of his crimes cause he has no crime attached to him.

However, if Muhammad owned slaves because the Quran allowed him to and surprising, same is found in the Old Testament, is this not further proof that he plagiarized the Bible? That's just wrong!!

You cant compare Human equality in Islam vs Christianity

I'll show you how Islam came to liberate slaves and end the Judeo-Christian and Pagan slavery, and how the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments promotes slavery

Ibkhaleel001:
[s][/s][b]Fathers sticking their fingers into their daughters' vaginas before marriage in the Bible.

[/b]Also, the fact that there is no AGE LIMIT to how girls in the Bible were sold off and married off to other men, WITHOUT ANY CHOICE, who were much much older than them as also the case with the Biblical Prophets who married 100s of wives each clearly proves the hypocrisy of some Christians who attack Islam through Aisha's very young age, while they clearly ignore the same fact in their own Bible. Here is a sample of the 100s of wives of the Biblical Prophets:

In Exodus 21:10, a man can marry an infinite amount of women without any limits to how many he can marry.

In 2 Samuel 5:13; 1 Chronicles 3:1-9, 14:3, King David had six wives and numerous concubines.

In 1 Kings 11:3, King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.

In 2 Chronicles 11:21, King Solomon's son Rehoboam had 18 wives and 60 concubines.

The fact that his own Biblical Prophets married 100s of wives each and fathers used to sell their daughters as slave girls to other men without any age limit makes it extremely possible and probable that several if not many of these wives were little girls between 9 to 13, while the Prophets were MUCH MUCH OLDER than them. If your own grandmother who exited THOUSANDS of years later still married at 12, then what makes it impossible for girls during Biblical times to have married way much older men than them when they were little ones?

Since there is no age limit for the girl to be sold by her own father as a slave girl to another man, WHO CAN HAVE SEX WITH HER, then I want to ask you

Aren't you a total hypocrite for denying that little girls were sold off and married off during biblical times at very young age to much much older men , while making fierce charges against Islam on Aisha's age?


How old was Mary the mother of your man god when she gave birth to Jesus?

None of those people you mentioned were prophets nor is anyone worshipping them as peferct men. But you who worship Muhammad is here using their misdeeds to justify Muhammad's. Is that not another example of plagiarism again?

What does Mary's age have to do with Muhammad marrying poor Aisha at 9 year old? I thought a virgin is not to be married out except she consents. What would a 9 year old have known to consent or not? That's a crime man!!

Agboriotejoye:


You're condemning the Bible for encouraging slavery? Do you realize Muhammad owned slaves? If he was alive now, he would be in jail for slave trading. Slave trading is a crime bro. Jesus Christ who is our Lord and savior never owned slaves though. He is upright in the eyes of both men and God from ages to ages. No need to stand up and explain any of his crimes cause he has no crime attached to him.

However, if Muhammad owned slaves because the Quran allowed him to and surprising, same is found in the Old Testament, is this not further proof that he plagiarized the Bible? That's just wrong!!

Why did slavery exist during Islam? And how did Islam deal with it?

First, it is important to know that thousands of years ago life was different than today. Today, people wouldn't accept slavery for any reason. The reason for this is because people are a lot more independent both financially, education wise, mentally, etc... But people back then were different. When a tribe or a group of people lose a major battle and their money is mostly, if not all, is taken as war booty by the other side, then people could and would accept being slaves for the following reasons:

1- Both financial and social security. When their country or tribe lost the war, they also lost most or all of their money as war booty. Being out of money and food, it becomes necessary for an individual to find the means for basic survival in life. Living as a slave would provide this.

2- Protection from hostile individuals. Even under the Islamic rule, you can still find hostile individuals who violate the Law and take matters into their own hands. An enemy family can be sometime in danger if they don't have a "protector".

3- Widows, Orphans, and the extremely poor of the enemy side need the financial and social protection from a Master. Back then, there were no governments with good social system that protects everyone. Slavery back then was that social system in special cases.

There are probably more points I can add, but I think these are sufficient enough.



Islam and Slavery:

Islam is a religion that came to fight slavery and end it once and for all. During Judaism and Christianity, slavery was at its highest peak in the Middle East. People were enslaved and they and their children were inherited and passed down to generations for ever. This tradition came from Leviticus 25:44-46 in the Bible's Old Testament, and further continued in the New Testament in 1 Timothy 6:1, 1 Peter 2:18, and Colossians 3:22.

Now keep in mind that the entire Bible is corrupted and unreliable and is mostly filled with man-made cultural laws and corruption!

GOD Almighty Said: "`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:"

The Revised Standard Version makes it even clearer: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:"

In either translation, we clearly see that the Jews had so much corrupted the Bible with their man-made cultural laws, that they had turned the Bible into a lie!

See Also Deuteronomy 31:25-29 where Moses peace be upon him predicted the corruption/tampering of the Law (Bible) after his death. The Book of Moses predicted that the Law (Bible) will get corrupted. The Book of Jeremiah which came approximately 826 years after did indeed confirm this corruption.

So Leviticus 25:44-46, 1 Timothy 6:1, 1 Peter 2:18, and Colossians 3:22 above are highly doubtful to be Divine Revelations from GOD Almighty, the Most Just, Most Merciful, and Most Wise. Please visit Just who were the real authors of the Bible? You will see comments from the commentary of the NIV Bible (one of the most used Bibles world wide) itself admitting that most of the Books and Gospels of the Bible are corrupted. No one ever claimed ownership of the current Books and Gospels. The owners/writers are unknown.

When Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him received the Divine Revelations of Islam, slavery among the Pagan Arabs, Jews and Christians was quite common. When he came with Allah Almighty's True Religion of Islam, he gradually eliminated slavery. He couldn't enforce it all at once, because it would've caused Islam to be an unsuccessful religion toward freeing slaves, and would certainly have broken Islam's system for ending slavery.

By gradually freeing slaves and making it be acceptable to the society of many different pagan cultures and traditions, the idea of eliminating slavery became powerful enough that after Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him died, the freed slaves remained free and non of them was ever enslaved again.

Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said:

Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari: "The Prophet said, "Give food to the hungry, pay a visit to the sick and release (set free) the one in captivity (by paying his ransom)." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Food, Meals, Volume 7, Book 65, Number 286)"



Always remember!

It was not Islam that started slavery, but it was Islam that ultimately ended it.

Agboriotejoye:


None of those people you mentioned were prophets nor is anyone worshipping them as peferct men. But you who worship Muhammad is here using their misdeeds to justify Muhammad's. Is that not another example of plagiarism again?

What does Mary's age have to do with Muhammad marrying poor Aisha at 9 year old? I thought a virgin is not to be married out except she consents. What would a 9 year old have known to consent or not? That's a crime man!!

Hypocrisy of Jews & Christians

It is quite hypocritical of Jews and Christian to criticize the marriage of Aisha. Talmud (Jewish scripture) says:

"Marrying off one's daughter as soon after she reaches adulthood as possible, even to one's Slave. (From the Talmud, Pesachim 113a)"

As discussed, in biblical times adulthood could refer to the age of Puberty or even younger age.

Regarding the Marriage of Mary to Joseph, Catholic Encyclopaedia says:

"When forty years of age, Joseph married a woman called Melcha or Escha by some, Salome by others; they lived forty-nine years together and had six children, two daughters and four sons, the youngest of whom was James (the Less, "the Lord's brother". A year after his wife's death, as the priests announced through Judea that they wished to find in the tribe of Juda a respectable man to espouse Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age, Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old, went up to Jerusalem among the candidates; a miracle manifested the choice God had made of Joseph, and two years later the Annunciation took place."
Encyclopedialopaedia goes on to conclude "...retained the belief that St. Joseph was an old man at the time of marriage with the Mother of God." If Christians do not find any difficulty in accepting "Mother of God" (according to Catholic Encyclopaedia), who was 12-14, marrying a 90 year old man then why do they raise objection towards the marriage of Aisha (RA) to the Prophet?





12- What about the Bible's Prophets' marriages?

When we read the Bible, we learn about some Prophets marrying many wives, even hundreds of wives in some cases. Let us look at some of the verses from the Old Testament:

In Exodus 21:10, a man can marry an infinite amount of women without any limits to how many he can marry.

In 2 Samuel 5:13; 1 Chronicles 3:1-9, 14:3,

Agboriotejoye:


None of those people you mentioned were prophets nor is anyone worshipping them as peferct men. But you who worship Muhammad is here using their misdeeds to justify Muhammad's. Is that not another example of plagiarism again?

What does Mary's age have to do with Muhammad marrying poor Aisha at 9 year old? I thought a virgin is not to be married out except she consents. What would a 9 year old have known to consent or not? That's a crime man!!

I will love to on the pulpit of your church and give lectures on paul...


Still On Paul...


Amazingly, Paul went to such extremes that he claimed Jesus destroyed the Jewish Law!



“He (Jesus) brought the hostility to an end, by abolishing the Law of commandments with its regulations”. (Ephesians 2:14)



Needless to say, the passage contradicts Matthew 5:17-20 where Jesus specifically states that he came to preach the Law, not to destroy it.



Paul gave evidence that he was building a new religion, a complete deviation from Jesus’ teachings:



Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man's foundation: (Romans 15:20)



What is Paul implying here?


If Paul had been spreading the original teaching of Jesus, then “another man’s foundation” would have been the same as his. They would both have been involved in building the same structure. The people who were hearing about Jesus, or rather Christ, for the first time from Paul’s lips, had no means of comparing his account with that of the Apostles who still held to Jesus’ teaching. Paul’s version was the only one to which they had access.


Paul was developing a new religion under the doctrines he was fabricating According to Acts, Paul traveled to Arabia for three years

Ibkhaleel001:
Aisha's mother and the Muslim women back then were ok with her marriage. It was part of the Arab custom and still is in many of the Muslim and non-Muslim countries today for girls to marry at a very young age. When a girl's body starts showing up (her breasts and her height and physical size), then she would be ready for marriage. This is further elaborated on in the "The Middle Eastern and other Cultures" and "What about Aisha's parents (mon and dad), are they too "Child Molesters"?" and "The life span 1400 years ago was very short"

Your charge is a terrible unfair attack on Islam because it doesn't apply to our beloved prophet in anyway!

What about Mary, Jesus' Mother peace be upon both of them? How old was she when she got pregnant?

Not only was it a custom in the Arab society to Engage/Marry a young girl it was also common in the Jewish society. The case of Mary the mother of Jesus comes to mind, in non biblical sources she was between 11-14 years old when she conceived Jesus. Mary had already been "BETROTHED" to Joseph before conceiving Jesus. Joseph was a much older man. therefore Mary was younger than 11-14 years of age when she was "BETHROED" to Joseph. We Muslims would never call Joseph a Child Molester, nor would we refer to the "Holy Ghost" of the Bible, that "Impregnated" Mary as a "Rapist" or "Adulterer".

Lol. So because he was in Arabia, he was learning from the Arabs yet turned round to kill them. So he was picking and choosing which part of their practices suited him and he jumped at it. You already said it. Muhammad was more a politician than a prophet!! Doing contract marriage. Shame

There is no definite agreement on Mary's age but what is obvious is she was praised for her chastity. Now I don't know how twisted you are but I don't think anyone would go about praising an 11 year old for being chaste. She would have been much older than that given that Elizabeth was her aunt and was well into her advanced age.
Also, the Holy Spirit did not have sex with Mary. It was a breath/enablement that was delivered upon her. She still remained a virgin till she gave birth to Jesus. Go and check out the meaning of rape and adultery to understand things.
Your beloved prophet is a pedophile and his body should be exhumed and jailed to serve justice to poor 9 year old Aisha!!

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Agboriotejoye:


You're condemning the Bible for encouraging slavery? Do you realize Muhammad owned slaves? If he was alive now, he would be in jail for slave trading. Slave trading is a crime bro. Jesus Christ who is our Lord and savior never owned slaves though. He is upright in the eyes of both men and God from ages to ages. No need to stand up and explain any of his crimes cause he has no crime attached to him.

However, if Muhammad owned slaves because the Quran allowed him to and surprising, same is found in the Old Testament, is this not further proof that he plagiarized the Bible? That's just wrong!!

[/s] Paul the comedian.... Please say something about Paul...defend your Paul....

Paul's Delusions: In 1 Corinthians 7:40, he claimed that he "thinks" that he has the Holy Spirit in him!

1- Paul calls the Bible fables and lies.
2- Paul's claim in Romans 13:1-5. Were the Christian martyrs evil then?

You are a product of your environment. Paul was a rodent from an infestation of rodents.

Lol Paul's perfect, sinless and infallible pedophiles and thieves (1 Corinthians 2:15).
Shege Paul could lift mountains.

Ibkhaleel001:
Simply because your sisters are alowed to wallow in prostitution you see anything opposite of it as bad..

Joseph, Mary's husband, was "90 years old" when he married 12 to 14-year old Mary! Was he too a pedophile?

I enjoy debunking Hypocrisy of Jews & Christians

It is quite hypocritical of Jews and Christian to criticize the marriage of Aisha. Talmud (Jewish scripture) says:

"Marrying off one's daughter as soon after she reaches adulthood as possible, even to one's Slave. (From the Talmud, Pesachim 113a)"

Hahahaha. Joseph was 90 years old. Anyone ever heard of a 90 year old carpenter? A 90 year old indeed.
So you are now agreeing Muhammad went about plagiarizing the Talmud now? Good!! I guess we're good now.

Ibkhaleel001:
So your life revolves around allegations and lies? I dont blame you for calling me a Terrorist this show how i habe terorisised your lies and empty hatred....

We are already doing it..are you confused...dont run pls stay and continue digging your grave

Run ke? plagiarism is still unexplained. Where will I run to

Ibkhaleel001:
scroll up and read them av finshed with that two days back...

Are you deaf and dumb to see?

Lies. All you went about is the bible contains errors bla bla bla, Face the plagiarism in the Quran dumbo

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Agboriotejoye:


Lol. So because he was in Arabia, he was learning from the Arabs yet turned round to kill them. So he was picking and choosing which part of their practices suited him and he jumped at it. You already said it. Muhammad was more a politician than a prophet!! Doing contract marriage. Shame

There is no definite agreement on Mary's age but what is obvious is she was praised for her chastity. Now I don't know how twisted you are but I don't think anyone would go about praising an 11 year old for being chaste. She would have been much older than that given that Elizabeth was her aunt and was well into her advanced age.
Also, the Holy Spirit did not have sex with Mary. It was a breath/enablement that was delivered upon her. She still remained a virgin till she gave birth to Jesus. Go and check out the meaning of rape and adultery to understand things.
Your beloved prophet is a pedophile and his body should be exhumed and jailed to serve justice to poor 9 year old Aisha!!

[/s]Your silly allegations have been dealt with and cleared!

If you insist on it then call for an ooen physical debate....

Your confusing, incoherent and oxymoronic statements had caused for sinful things to become lawful and for lawful things to become sinful, and for pious believers to be considered disbelievers, and for disbelievers and hypocrites to be considered pious believers. This in itself is a blasphemy against GOD Almighty.

I'll love to handle you face to face and disgrace you mentally retarded polytheist pagan

Agboriotejoye:


Lies. All you went about is the bible contains errors bla bla bla, Face the plagiarism in the Quran dumbo

Fabricated Bible:

Allah Almighty Said in the Noble Quran about the fabricated Bible:

"Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: "This is from God," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby. (The Noble Quran, 2:79)"

Agboriotejoye:


Run ke? plagiarism is still unexplained. Where will I run to

Christianity is a lie that grew as a rolling snow ball. Allah Almighty allows the doomed-to-Hell infidels to thrive and prosper in their lies here in this life, because it is theirs and not ours. Our life is the Hereafter in Heaven, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).