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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:39am On Sep 20, 2021
afrodoc2:
Oga, name your 11. When you were following me around like a creditor asking me to name my 11 you didn’t give or accept all this shalaye. grin

After you can then answer my question.
Your top 11 central defenders in Ligue 1 and your top 11 central defenders in EPL.
grin grin grin grin cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 11:39am On Sep 20, 2021
Our problem in the West Ham was two fold. We played too narrow and we moved the ball around too slowly.

Pogba the nominal LWF was tucking into the midfield, Greenwood the nominal RWF was tucking into the attack WHILE at the same time both full backs were also playing relatively narrow and close to the CBs.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by timay1: 11:40am On Sep 20, 2021
monerozi5590:
I noticed both you and afrodoc2 didn't include Verrati in your combine 11
Verrati is a Rich man's Ndombele.

Good at holding and driving the ball in the middle with good dribble. But poor and erratic passing.

Pogba does the dribbling too and the cherry on top is that he's an excellent passer of the ball, both long and short passes.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:41am On Sep 20, 2021
kushercain:
But Ibra cavani neymar and co are not Messi and Ronaldo and are in the GOAT debate. If Messi doesnt do 40 goals then in your own words he will be considered a failure, capisce?
You missed the point. I used the number of goals scored to highlight that those defenders are not inferior to their peers if not, the likes of Ibra, Cavani, Benzema, Mbappe and Falcai would have broken goal records playing in that league...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nani667: 11:50am On Sep 20, 2021
#OleOUT
#EndOLE
#OleMustGo
#EndOLECluelessness
#SackTheFraud
#KillTheBasterd
‼️
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hoopLA: 11:59am On Sep 20, 2021
afrodoc2:
There is no need to throw stones. It was just funny that some people's reflex reaction to the praise of any other manager is to attack the manager just because they want to defend Amaka.

Imagine comparing Amaka to Marcelo Bielsa? Even if Leeds get relegated and Amaka wins a title shoe get size. I watch Amaka's team and it looks like they are passing a stone and not a football. The opponents get the ball and the stone miraculously turns into a football again.
grin grin grin

Boss,me I get catapult for pocket.

Certain monikers here need serious general mob action for spewing LAWMA grade trash.

Where was Ole when Bielsa began coaching in Spain?
Where was Ole when Bielsa brought Munain & Herrera to drill us right here at Old Trafford in 2012? The Norweigian Ogunbote had not even began relegating Cardiff by then,but somehow,Bielsa is now his mate because they are both in the PL and Amaka has won the Norweigian league.

Then because he beats brain farting Pep, he is the next best thing to Dangote spaghetti.

Honest to Jah Mighty, but some people in here are in the idiotic order.

Even Arteta still dey give am palpitation sef.

Abeg I wan troway stone.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:00pm On Sep 20, 2021
nitrogen:
grin grin grin grin cheesy
grin

My guy no gree name any central defender in Ligue 1. Even though I reduced it from 11 to 5 just to help him out. cheesy

Na Jason Denayer na him be the chairman of central defenders for Ligue 1 o. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:02pm On Sep 20, 2021
timay1:
Verrati is a Rich man's Ndombele.

Good at holding and driving the ball in the middle with good dribble. But poor and erratic passing.

Pogba does the dribbling too and the cherry on top is that he's an excellent passer of the ball, both long and short passes.
Verrati and Ndombele ke?

Verrati poor and erratic passer ke?

shocked shocked shocked
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:06pm On Sep 20, 2021
afrodoc2:
I had to just give him props after he said Ligue 1 defenders were equal to EPL defenders. cheesy

Even though his name is Patrick he is obviously not a strong Christian. cheesy

The guy is was stressing that “name combined 11”, “name combined 11” thinking it would show that United had better players, forgetting that while our attack (our strongest department) is filled with stars and one GOUT, PSG has extra-terrestrials and a GOUT in their attack.

That is why after I named my 11 he was in shock and said he would wait for other lists. cheesy
Imagine after claiming that Ronaldo was playing with better players you combine both teams and find out that Messi has 6 starters while Ronaldo has only 3 starters. cheesy

E choke. grin
grin grin grin Knows the truth but doesn’t want to say it.

PSG’s attack is on a different level, even their midfield is good. Funny how we only have an edge in defense - Shaw and Varane.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by benji93: 12:16pm On Sep 20, 2021
I fold my arms still dey wait for that Sancho assist/goal. cheesy grin. A total of 10 assists and goals is not too much to ask.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hoopLA: 12:24pm On Sep 20, 2021
CapitalCee:
One said that Amaka is a younger Ancelloti, he said Ancelloti has no pattern. Lol. Ancelloti that introduced the famous diamond formation where he will pack the midfield and use marauding FBs to supply a dangerous 18 yard stiker who is good on the air, he doesn't like his CBs venturing forward.
In Ac milan he used Gattuso, Seedorf, Pirlo and Ambrosini,
initially he used Gattuso, Seddorf, Rui costa and Pirlo. At Juve he used Conte, Davids, Deschamps and Zidane.
At Everton it was dacoure, Sigurdsson, Allan and James.
At Chelsea it was Ballack, Lampard, Essien and Mikel he plays Belleti in Midfield too.
Look at the strikers that flourished under him, Inzaghi botha at Juve and Ac milan, Drogba, Calvert Lewin.


Before they said he is the next Sir Alex Ferguson, now na Ancelloti very soon he will degrade to the next Alan Pardew
Ni tori ólórún na who dey yarn all diz ones againhuh

Thank Jah I didn't see this bullzack with my own Koro Koro eye.
If not na to pluck them out and wash them in Osun river.

Biko NL needs to be banning people on the basis of idiocy.
This is lunatic stuff.

Ole and Don Carlo?

I can excuse the Fergie one since Sir Alex coached United

But Ancelotti?

My gawd.

Shey diz thread no be placed wey dem actually breed morons?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hoopLA: 12:28pm On Sep 20, 2021
afrodoc2:
grin

My guy no gree name any central defender in Ligue 1. Even though I reduced it from 11 to 5 just to help him out. cheesy

Na Jason Denayer na him be the chairman of central defenders for Ligue 1 o. cheesy
William Saliba came from there and has hardly played for Arsenal.
Useless arteta can't find any use for him in a useless team.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:34pm On Sep 20, 2021
GloryIsaac:
grin grin grin Knows the truth but doesn’t want to say it.

PSG’s attack is on a different level, even their midfield is good. Funny how we only have an edge in defense - Shaw and Varane.
They way una dey reduce Pogba and Bruno to average midfielders when it comes to an argument dey always amaze me...

Neymar, Mbappe and Messi look formidable on paper but are they workable? It's left to be seen. PSG team is not balanced at all, for things to click, Poch might have to bin Veratti and go with Gueye, Paredes/Herrera and Wijnaldum because those guys in front will not put in the shift. I streamed their match yesterday, Messi was strolling as was Neymar and Mbappe without the ball...I think under the right set up, we have a good mix in our attack...

Anyway sha...Time will tell.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:38pm On Sep 20, 2021
hoopLA:
William Saliba came from there and has hardly played for Arsenal.
Useless arteta can't find any use for him in a useless team.
It's not down to his footballing abilities...If we start listing players that the French Ligue 1 has produced we won't stop anytime soon.

If was that easy, Falcao, Ibra, Benzema, Cavani, Mbappe, Neymar and co would have been scoring 40 - 50 goals every season while they were/are there...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 12:45pm On Sep 20, 2021
afrodoc2:
I dey always gbadun your optimism. cheesy
Come rain come shine
Come Fred come ice cold
Come Mourinho come van gaal
Come ogs come nwoyes
I want United to win grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:46pm On Sep 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
It's not down to his footballing abilities...If we start listing players that the French Ligue 1 has produced we won't stop anytime soon.

If was that easy, Falcao, Ibra, Benzema, Cavani, Mbappe, Neymar and co would have been scoring 40 - 50 goals every season while they were/are there...
Let’s list players that Brazilian league has produced and conclude that it is better than EPL then?

We don’t want you to name all the players that Ligue 1 has produced sef. That’s too difficult.
Just name the 5 good international grade defenders that Messi will face there. Since 11 is too hard we have reduced it to 5.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:56pm On Sep 20, 2021
afrodoc2:
Let’s list players that Brazilian league has produced and conclude that it is better than EPL then?

We don’t want you to name all the players that Ligue 1 has produced sef. That’s too difficult.
Just name the 5 good international grade defenders that Messi will face there. Since 11 is too hard we have reduced it to 5.
Okay, I accept they're no international grade defenders in the whole league but then, why didn't/haven't Ibra, Cavani, Benzema, Falcao, Mbappe, Neymar etc scored more than 40-50 league goals not even consistently but at least for once?. Who was stopping them, farmers? Must be farmers who can play the beautiful game then...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mrviktor(m): 1:03pm On Sep 20, 2021
MRTA7:
I think Fred's problem might be his short legs. cheesy
lwkmd

kante and modric too has short legs..

there was a time in yesterdays match..

he misplaced a pass..
d ball came back to him.. he couldnt control it first time...


i was like wtffffff


mactominay on d other hand mehnnn that guy left his soul on d pitch
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2:
patrickmuf:
Okay, I accept they're no international grade defenders in the whole league but then, why didn't/haven't Ibra, Cavani, Benzema, Falcao, Mbappe, Neymar etc scored more than 40-50 league goals not even consistently but at least for once?. Who was stopping them, farmers? Must be farmers who can play the beautiful game then...
Zlatan dropped from 38 goals in Ligue 1 to 17 goals in EPL next season. Discuss

Using not more than 250 words explain how Lacazette dropped from 28 goals in Ligue 1 to 14 goals the next season in EPL.

Using diagrams and audiovisual illustration, explain how Mbappe is averaging practically a goal a game in Ligue 1 despite playing only just above half of the matches as CF?

Without asking Ifa, Orunmila, or Delphic oracle can you explain how Falcao averaged 0.6 goals per game in Ligue 1 but 0.14 goals per game in EPL?

a) With the help of google can you tell us how many Ligue 1 teams have ever won the Champions League?
b) Calculate the ratio of this to the number of EPL teams that have won the
Champions League.
c) Finally using all mighty formula can you tell us the degree of blame to be apportioned to Ligue 1 defenders for the result of b above.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PrinceofAgoAre(m): 1:10pm On Sep 20, 2021
CapitalCee:
Please are you sure of what you are saying? I have helped people like these before and discovered later that its scam. TBH i dont like scam.
I'm a 100percent sir. I can swear with my life. This nt a scam.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:18pm On Sep 20, 2021
CapitalCee:
But Ole has played against 11 men Chelsea away and did not lose.
Yeah, by parking the bus.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 1:23pm On Sep 20, 2021
timay1:
Verrati is a Rich man's Ndombele

Good at holding and driving the ball in the middle with good dribble. But poor and erratic passing

Pogba does the dribbling too and the cherry on top is that he's an excellent passer of the ball, both long and short passes.
Marco Verrati or Tunde Verrati??

cheesy cheesy

For your perusal:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPWSZg-3Nec
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by LMDyaya(m): 1:29pm On Sep 20, 2021
cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:32pm On Sep 20, 2021
patrickmuf:
I am not sure you are right...It is graded as 2 and not 1.5...Kindly check again.
Ligue 1 isn’t far behind from PL. The only thing PL has over Ligue 1 apart from money is hype. We should stop pretending that we haven’t seen direct transfers from Ligue 1 coming to boss the overhyped PL.

Eden Hazard, Riyadh Mahrez, Ngolo Kante, etc all came from the so called Farmer’s league to win PFA player of the year in the overhyped PL back to back without sweats.

Salah also came straight from Serie A(another so called farmer’s league) to dog-walk the overhyped PL defenders. There’s also Ruben Dias that came straight from Portuguese league and he won player of the season. Bruno Fernandes from the same farmer’s league is also bossing PL defenders - and he should have won the last PFA awards.

PL is 70% footballing ability, 30% media hype. Just try and watch the Euro final again and see how Italian players from the so called farmer’s league totally destroyed the overhyped PL players.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheLequte: 1:42pm On Sep 20, 2021
3-2 penalty win means bossing the opponent.

This place ehn grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by slimghost(m): 1:42pm On Sep 20, 2021
Solskjaer was asked about winning the Premier League title after the match.

He replied: “You’re not gonna get me on that one now. It’s five games into the season.

“I was probably down and out and lost my job yesterday. That’s the way it is at Man United.

“We deserved three points [against West Ham]. It’s a hard place to come, here. Hopefully these points can make a difference. Let’s see [about the title] when we get towards April and May.”
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by timay1: 1:46pm On Sep 20, 2021
Expert17:
Marco Verrati or Tunde Verrati??

cheesy cheesy

For your perusal:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPWSZg-3Nec
Even Fred get YouTube compilations that will make him look like prime Pirlo grin

But on a serious, I'm not Comparing Verrati with Ndombele.

Verrati is good in his own right but the point o was making was that Pogba is head and shoulders above him when it comes to passing, hence why I support tye combined 11 someone dropped, where Pogba gets the nod ahead of him
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:47pm On Sep 20, 2021
TheLequte:
3-2 penalty win means bossing the opponent.

This place ehn grin grin grin
Look at the match stats.

The score line flattered England. It made it seem like a tough game. The truth is the Italians destroyed England with number of shots, possession, passing accuracy, etc.

Most of them play in the farmer’s league - it got me wondering how the overhyped PL players could only make 420 passes in 120 minutes in comparison to the 820 passes from the Italians.

If Football was like wrestling, the referee would have stopped the match. English players took a jungle justice sort of beating. They were totally destroyed.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by jargooflife912(m): 1:51pm On Sep 20, 2021
Dropped? Nah he was rested for the Denmark match not dropped same as Mbappe Matuidi Lloris and Pavard
patrickmuf:
In that world cup, he started the first game or thereabout and had a stinker and was dropped (My memory might not be spot on) for the proceeding game after much criticism from the French people. Baba had to step up...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Roland17(m): 1:52pm On Sep 20, 2021
afrodoc2:
Zlatan dropped from 38 goals in Ligue 1 to 17 goals in EPL next season. Discuss

Using not more than 250 words explain how Lacazette dropped from 28 goals in Ligue 1 to 14 goals the next season in EPL.

Using diagrams and audiovisual illustration, explain how Mbappe is averaging practically a goal a game in Ligue 1 despite playing only just above half of the matches as CF?

Without asking Ifa, Orunmila, or Delphic oracle can you explain how Falcao averaged 0.6 goals per game in Ligue 1 but 0.14 goals per game in EPL?

a) With the help of google can you tell us how many Ligue 1 teams have ever won the Champions League?
b) Calculate the ratio of this to the number of EPL teams that have won the
Champions League.
c) Finally using all mighty formula can you tell us the degree of blame to be apportioned to Ligue 1 defenders for the result of b above.
Just when I thought your madness has been healed, you carry this one come!

And Na always on Mondays u dey carry new one come.. Doc ehhhh grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 2:00pm On Sep 20, 2021
Roland17:
Just when I thought your madness has been healed, you carry this one come!

And Na always on Mondays u dey carry new one come.. Doc ehhhh grin


I always dey fresh on Mondays after a nice weekend's rest and hanging out with family. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:13pm On Sep 20, 2021
afrodoc2:
Zlatan dropped from 38 goals in Ligue 1 to 17 goals in EPL next season. Discuss

Using not more than 250 words explain how Lacazette dropped from 28 goals in Ligue 1 to 14 goals the next season in EPL.

Using diagrams and audiovisual illustration, explain how Mbappe is averaging practically a goal a game in Ligue 1 despite playing only just above half of the matches as CF?

Without asking Ifa, Orunmila, or Delphic oracle can you explain how Falcao averaged 0.6 goals per game in Ligue 1 but 0.14 goals per game in EPL?

a) With the help of google can you tell us how many Ligue 1 teams have ever won the Champions League?
b) Calculate the ratio of this to the number of EPL teams that have won the
Champions League.
c) Finally using all mighty formula can you tell us the degree of blame to be apportioned to Ligue 1 defenders for the result of b above.
Hehehe Zlatan played for PSG, the best team in the league and when he came to England, he joined the 5th best team and was older...

Mbappe scored 27 goals last season, that's good but hardly jaw dropping...Salah doesn't play as a CF but he also post better numbers...

The Falcao that arrived in England was already watched up...

Lacazette? How many stellar seasons did he have in Ligue 1? What team did he join in England? It's like leaving Liverpool for Real Betis/Valencia and expecting to drop the same stats. Lyon was the 2nd/3rd best team in France at that time, he joined Arsenal that were on their way down...

If Zlatan, Cavani, Mbappe played for the present City or Liverpool whilst at the peak of their powers, they'd have dropped top numbers...

That's me trying to point out things clearly but we all know football can't be judged that way, Immobile was thrash at Dortmund but he has since been back banging goals for Lazio...Ordinarily, one would look at the Bundesliga and think it is easier to score there than in the Serie A but it didn't happen...

Another instance, Ronaldo left Madrid for Juventus but was beaten to the golden boot by an old man Quagliarella in his first season and Immobile in his second season, it's only last season he was able to win the golden boot...Same Ronaldo that scored for fun in LA Liga and the UCL, are we to believe the Serie A is tougher or have better defenders? If yes, why then is Immobile doing so well there after failing in Germany?

There’s more to football...

I had a laugh when I read your reply...You this man, you funny sha.
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