Empiree:
How come?. Did you communicate with him of recent or what?. We havent heard from him almost 4yrs now or he posted a prayer here that you grabbed later?. please enlighten us.

How long you did this for? But I am afraid that you cutoff early bcus it is sometimes normal to come across the Jinn. I think i narrated a sheikh on this thread and "Jinn Stories" thread as well how they disturbed and tried to distract him from reaching his goal. Am afraid this is what happened to you buy you gave up early.

All my Alfa told me he gave me a jinn prayer that call on jinn that he his a dangerous person...

Lekzytlekzydu:


All my Alfa told me he gave me a jinn prayer that call on jinn that he his a dangerous person...

All your explanations are vague sir, that means you arent telling us the whole story, are you? besides if you had taking your time to glance through the thread you could have known that he left few years back.

Lekzytlekzydu:

He gave me different types but I chose d Yasin he said I should do 19 Yasin everyday

19 daily Yasin will never attract jinns. Yasin is a Quranic chapter we all read almost everyday.
I don't really know what you were given or recited though, although I've been opportuned to come across Khodim Yasin in my research. But reciting Yasin alone doesn't invoke it. N.B: I noticed you are a new member, so how was Mr Ikupakuti able to give you something.

Lekzytlekzydu:


All my Alfa told me he gave me a jinn prayer that call on jinn that he his a dangerous person...

Naam. When did he give you this and whats the prayer?

Alhajiemeritus:
19 daily Yasin will never attract jinns. Yasin is a Quranic chapter we all read almost everyday.
I don't really know what you were given or recited though, although I've been opportuned to come across Khodim Yasin in my research. But reciting Yasin alone doesn't invoke it. N.B: I noticed you are a new member, so how was Mr Ikupakuti able to give you something.

I wonder oo.

Lekzytlekzydu:

He gave me different types but I chose d Yasin he said I should do 19 Yasin everyday

So he gave you different ones but Yasin is the one you did and experience Jinn trouble?. Definitely you are wrong. Do you have idea how long I have been in Yasin business?. Na only 19 he told you to recite and you don collapsed already?. What about those of us that do 313 Yasin/day?

littleguy444:
All your explanations are vague sir, that means you arent telling us the whole story, are you? besides if you had taking your time to glance through the thread you could have known that he left few years back.

Exactly. We want answer for this

Brothers, I'll suggest we leave that guy alone. Like ignore him and continue with whatever discussions we are having. My reasons are, it's a new account and the first post is maligning someone who hasn't been around for years now.
The fellow is not saying anything about the alleged prayer he was given.

Being a new account, he obviously didn't contact the person he is accusing via Nairaland. So, how did he contact him and what makes him so sure the person he contacted is the same person as the moniker he is accusing.

Till the fellow posts something meaningful and coherent, I suggest you guys do not indulge him.

He's probably an attention seeker diverting the course of the thread. Pls sheiks, continue with ur lectures. Some of us don't post but we're learning

[quote author=LadunaI post=104861705]Sheikh laduna i would like you to explain what true humbleness and good behaviour really mean.Because all we have been hearing is to be humbled but how to be that i have no idea about so i would really like you to say something about it.Including our big sheikh too, sheikh empire and movado19 and others.

The fellow that made allegation against ikupakuti needs to come clean. His profile is new which makes him suspicious. However, there might be things to learn from him based on his allegation. Truly there are instances where Jinn do bother people regardless whether you are steadfast on Islam or do dhikr. There are instances where Allah allows them to victimize you in order to test you and raise your daraja if you pass the test, not bcus the Jinn have capability to get to you. Your arwah simply allow the Jinn to pass through.

In some cases it could have to do with your نجمة. When نجمة is compromised, Jinn may be disturbing in the sense that they want you to regulate them bcus they want to be at your service. But if you don't know how to go about this they will keep bothering you and hold you back from progressing in life قبلي daili . And you think there are some evil people in some quarters that hypnotize you but it is not. When situation like this happens, a Muslim may need to see sound sincere hisab alfa to do the analysis and possibly help with subduing them. So this usually happens when something is wrong with نجمة. So it can be very annoying bcus the Jinn will keep following you everywhere and stand btw you and your success.

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Lekzytlekzydu:


All my Alfa told me he gave me a jinn prayer that call on jinn that he his a dangerous person...

Salam Alaikum.

@ Lekzytlekzydu, you have tried to say so much in very few words, but it still doesn't relay much, except that you want everyone to keep away from Mr. Ikupakuti based on dua he gave to you and what you subsequently encountered.
I do not believe that you came here to purposely tarnish his image, especially as he isn't here to defend himself, but you are clearly overwhelmed by what you have experienced, hence your warning note to all, based on your Alfa's diagnosis of your situation.

Could you please take your time to narrate in detail how this all began and how you got in contact with Ikupakuti, who hasn't been here in years?
Did this happen years back while he was still active here?
What was your spiritual practice prior to this incident?

I would suggest that you read and digest page 13 of this thread in order to gain an understanding of what happened to you.
Truly, everyone's spirit is not the same as some may be stronger than others for certain things.
Even the recitation of Bismillahi Rahmanir Rahim will yield different results for different people.
You cannot engage with a muscle car the way you would your regular cars...you need some level of training, practice, and know-how.

What you experienced was a HEALING CRISIS - a spiritual healing crisis, where you feel worse off before you feel better.
Did you sacrifice/ do sadaka during this period?
Was it only Surah Yasin you recited for 19x ?
How many days was this meant for and when/how did you begin to notice/see changes?

Also, you need to be aware that the expertise of Alfa's/spiritual guides varies much. Not every one of them knows everything concerning spirituality like that. Some are just specialized in a certain area and that's it.
It may be that the one you contacted gave such a verdict based on his own level of knowledge...remember that most people would attribute evil to what they do not understand or fully comprehend!

I pray that you are feeling much better now and no, there is nothing evil about Surah Yasin or any part of the Quran for that matter.
Allah Himself has said it is a healing and mercy to the believers...Q17:82.
Allah says it is a healing, guidance, and mercy for believers...Q10:57
...and so many other verses extolling the virtues of the Quran.

Please explain further so we all can also learn from your experience. Thank you.

movado19:


Salam Alaikum.

@ Lekzytlekzydu,

Exactly what I tried to tell him earlier. There must be challenges before relief

Wow I have missed alot from here. Who is this guy casting aspersion on Ikupakuti, perhaps I guess he's himself the jinn trying to feign ignorance or otherwise lol.

There is no substance in his allegation and we shouldn't be given him undue attention here. Imagine ikupakuti that last posted a little above 4 years ago, now somebody is saying the negative about him. We should beware of this type person here.

May Allah bless ikupakuti wherever he is, keep him safe. Up till now I am still on his trail to find out about him. The guy that promise on getting the info me from Khalifat Sheikh Lukman Jamiu Bulala still tell me once in a while we talk that he is on it.

BTW my good people you are ALL weldone, am kinder missed you all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adRmpI_lARM

Has anybody heard of Jaljalut Duha.
Does it really attract jinns?
Also the book Shams Al-maarif, what's the authencitity? It seems adulterated, if I were to say my opinion on it.

Alhajiemeritus:
Has anybody heard of Jaljalut Duha.
Does it really attract jinns?
Also the book Shams Al-maarif, what's the authencitity? It seems adulterated, if I were to say my opinion on it.

Salam Alaikum and Jumma Karim.

Dua Jaljalut has elements of the Suryaniyyah language in it.
This is the language purported to be spoken by Prophet Adam (A.S.) and it is still being spoken by a few individuals, especially those versed in the spiritual science, (Ilm Ruhaniy).
It is also a language understood and spoken by angels as well as eminent personalities in the Jinn world.

The dua is a form of tawassul to Allah, as well as a means to request from Allah through the Quran itself, names of Allah, RasulAllah (S.A.W.), the special broken letters, and Khatim Sulaiman.

On whether the dua" attracts Jinns", my answer is that you are basically asking Allah to throw open the gates of His blessings and favours to you in such a way through means of his diverse agencies, so everything in obedience to Allah will be attracted to you, Jinn or otherwise.
This definitely requires the watchful guidance of a Sheikh versed in this science.

Regarding the book, Shams Al Ma'rif by Al Bunni (Ibn Arabi's contemporary), there is no book that cannot be adulterated, save the Quran.
There are already diverse copies of this book of his, but I hear that the original can still be traced, though with much difficulty.
Those very old Alfas/sheikhs know the difference between the original and the copies, as this is what has been passed down either through teachers or generation to generation within certain families.

Empiree:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adRmpI_lARM

Thank you for this video, and this man has spoken the truth.
There is much wisdom and goodness in the diverse advice/admonitions given to us by RasulAllah (S.A.W.).
Science verifies and validates Allah's Truth, sooner or later.

movado19:


Salam Alaikum and Jumma Karim.

Dua Jaljalut has elements of the Suryaniyyah language in it.
This is the language purported to be spoken by Prophet Adam (A.S.) and it is still being spoken by a few individuals, especially those versed in the spiritual science, (Ilm Ruhaniy).
It is also a language understood and spoken by angels as well as eminent personalities in the Jinn world.

The dua is a form of tawassul to Allah, as well as a means to request from Allah through the Quran itself, names of Allah, RasulAllah (S.A.W.), the special broken letters, and Khatim Sulaiman.

On whether the dua" attracts Jinns", my answer is that you are basically asking Allah to throw open the gates of His blessings and favours to you in such a way through means of his diverse agencies, so everything in obedience to Allah will be attracted to you, Jinn or otherwise.
This definitely requires the watchful guidance of a Sheikh versed in this science.

Regarding the book, Shams Al Ma'rif by Al Bunni (Ibn Arabi's contemporary), there is no book that cannot be adulterated, save the Quran.
There are already diverse copies of this book of his, but I hear that the original can still be traced, though with much difficulty.
Those very old Alfas/sheikhs know the difference between the original and the copies, as this is what has been passed down either through teachers or generation to generation within certain families.

Hmm Thank you my brother.
I have read that the other names of Allah mentioned there that are not in Arabic are Suraiyah names, are there similar works that have elements of this strange language in them? or was Al buni the only person who authored this kind of work?
Recently I've been coming across different duhas that I've never come across in my life. Every single one making claim of being legit, we need to separate the chaff from the wheat.
Also brother Movado, what do you think about the magic squares present in the work? If we see something like this, does it call for us to throw out the whole book?

^^^
Point of correction Alhajiemeritus, movado is a sister.

Away from that, I really appreciate movado's perspective on the moniker who came to say stuff about ikupakuti. Shukran Sis.

May Allah continue to guide and guard us, Amin

Hkana:
^^^
Point of correction Alhajiemeritus, movado is a sister.

Really?. Thanks for this. We tend to think by default, everyone is male until further notice . Our brain is wired this way bcus most religious Books by default give preference to male (positive or negative) lol. All I know about her is that she lives in TX by her acknowledgement.

But I definitely thought she was male all along.

Hkana:
^^^
Point of correction Alhajiemeritus, movado is a sister.

Away from that, I really appreciate movado's perspective on the moniker who came to say stuff about ikupakuti. Shukran Sis.

May Allah continue to guide and guard us, Amin

Thanks for the clarification.
I'm surprised though.

Alhajiemeritus:
Hmm Thank you my brother.
I have read that the other names of Allah mentioned there that are not in Arabic are Suraiyah names, are there similar works that have elements of this strange language in them? or was Al buni the only person who authored this kind of work?
Recently I've been coming across different duhas that I've never come across in my life. Every single one making claim of being legit, we need to separate the chaff from the wheat.
Also brother Movado, what do you think about the magic squares present in the work? If we see something like this, does it call for us to throw out the whole book?

Al Bunni certainly wasn't the first or only person, but he is unique because he created a Magnus Opus, a compendium of Ruhanniy knowledge, which wasn't just taught verbally from teacher to student but was now in the form of a book with copies handed down across generations.
He was successful in large part because of the Era of intellectual liberty/freedom which he found himself in.
People were thirsty for knowledge and thus travelled great distances to acquire such.
Despite the air of liberty that pervaded his time, such works were still guarded and not divulged to the masses, except for those who had undertaken such spiritual journeys/travels and could be vouched for by thier peers or teachers, as well as understood the nuances therein.

Jabir Ibn Hayyan was a century or so before Al Bunni, and his body of work was later "anglicized" as PICATRIX to the Latin - and to date - the English-speaking audience has definitely been bastardized, removing Allah as Godhead and trying as much as possible to divorce its Islamic roots.

Kitab Al Bulhan (Book of Wonders) came into the scene after Al Bunni. It is of the same persuasion as the Shams Al Ma'rif.

Truly, there are a lot of duas out there and a case could be made for it as being so due to the height of Islamic Scholarship during those centuries/periods. Everything about their lives revolved around Allah, so you would find, say, a mathematician who understood the deeper meaning of numbers and their effects on a person's psychology, etc.
Also, a lot of books that were obscure to the English-speaking masses are now being translated into English, so it would seem that these duas are "springing from nowhere".
We still need to exercise caution with anything that comes our way though.

Magic squares from my limited knowledge was taught to Prophet Idris (A.S.)
It's part and parcel of Islamic spiritual science, but with everything, it has also undergone perversion of some kind in certain quarters.
That notwithstanding, we cannot say because it is used by certain folks for certain things which are unwholesome, then we do away with it completely!
Are we going to do away with statistics because some people boldly use it to tell lies and distort people's perceptions of the true reality of events? No! Rather, I believe a more balanced approach would be to understand the fundamental concepts of anything and be versed in spotting its perversion/abuse, even if we never get to personally apply such sciences.
As long as there is night, there will be day. Good and evil. Immaculate and perversion, Hot and cold. Wet and dry. Sweet and Bitter. Soft and hard, etc.

With regards to the recent discussions, I found this channel on YouTube for the Dua Jaljalut and in depth review of the book that provides this Dua which is Shams Al Ma’arif by Al Buni


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lg5BWUcxWI

Eye opening and interesting

Hkana:
^^^
Point of correction Alhajiemeritus, movado is a sister.

Away from that, I really appreciate movado's perspective on the moniker who came to say stuff about ikupakuti. Shukran Sis.

May Allah continue to guide and guard us, Amin

Movado19 a sister I can't believe this. With all these stuff "she" is dishing out here. I have not for once think in that direction. I doff my hat for "her" verse knowledge in mysticism if what you say is true.

Égbó "Sister" Movado19 is this true . Perhaps I am beginning to believe what sheikh empiree opined earlier that you're somewhat related to/or ikupakuti...i may guess may be you're his "Twin Sister"

LadunaI:

Movado19 a sister I can't believe this. With all these stuff "she" is dishing out here. I have not for once think in that direction. I doff my hat for "her" verse knowledge in mysticism if what you say is true.

Égbó "Sister" Movado19 is this true . Perhaps I am beginning to believe what sheikh empiree opined earlier that you're somewhat related to/or ikupakuti...i may guess may be you're his "Twin Sister"

My sheikh pls can u help me with d question i asked up there.

littleguy444:
My sheikh pls can u help me with d question i asked up there.

Sorry my brother. As we all know the definition of humbleness:

"Thinking lowly of one's self; claiming little for one's self; not proud, arrogant, or assuming; lowly"
www.wikitionary.com

So, that it is self explanatory. But in Sufism, some Sufi Scholars will go to an extent that, if you consider yourself better that any other fellow Muslims, then you've got some iota of pride in you which is opposite of being humble.

There was an anecdote when Sheikh Shebili if am not mistaken after entering Sufi path in which his murshid tell him to shave his head and go round the city, knocking at people door and greet them. And this somebody that is a former governor of the state. He find it irritating at first which is as result of pride in him, he later summoun courage and I do it, that's first step towards entering the path. Here he has cleansed himself of high opinion of himself or feeding his ego. So he practically humble himself and his spiritual journey become alot easier for him.

So, it simply thinking low about yourself, so that you might not be tempted to always thinking you're better than others whereas in the sight of Allah those you belittle are indeed better than you. And the more you humble yourself, the more you're exalted by Allah because the garment of PRIDE belongs to Allah alone.

LadunaI:


Égbó "Sister" Movado19 is this true

Na'am. I'm a woman.

movado19:


Na'am. I'm a woman.

Subnallah! With this level of your scholarship, I surmise you might be in your early forties or above.

LadunaI:

Subnallah! With this level of your scholarship, I surmise you might be in your early forties or above.

Correct, I'm in my early forties.

LadunaI:

Sorry my brother. As we all know the definition of humbleness:

"Thinking lowly of one's self; claiming little for one's self; not proud, arrogant, or assuming; lowly"
www.wikitionary.com

So, that it is self explanatory. But in Sufism, some Sufi Scholars will go to an extent that, if you consider yourself better that any other fellow Muslims, then you've got some iota of pride in you which is opposite of being humble.

There was an anecdote when Sheikh Shebili if am not mistaken after entering Sufi path in which his murshid tell him to shave his head and go round the city, knocking at people door and greet them. And this somebody that is a former governor of the state. He find it irritating at first which is as result of pride in him, he later summoun courage and I do it, that's first step towards entering the path. Here he has cleansed himself of high opinion of himself or feeding his ego. So he practically humble himself and his spiritual journey become alot easier for him.

So, it simply thinking low about yourself, so that you might not be tempted to always thinking you're better than others whereas in the sight of Allah those you belittle are indeed better than you. And the more you humble yourself, the more you're exalted by Allah because the garment of PRIDE belongs to Allah alone.

shukran shaykh.