Ttalk:


If you suffered all these, was it River or Lagos that inflicted it upon you. Why don't you take you case to FG and slug it out with them.
Canvassing for neutrality in the VAT matter is simply saying your region have been benefitting from VAT so we would prefer the status quo

Neutrality means that we have nothing at stake.
Ok let me pour all out since you can't grab from the signs.
Lagos is staking their Port monopoly.
Rivers is staking Igbo Oil wells.

But what are we staking?
Nothing. We have absolutely Nothing to lose but gain.
So tell me why we should interrupt the party?

Blue3k:


Mumu you said they were dragged then admitted they did it out their own self interest. My point stands you're not needed stay out the way. The courts will see who has the better legal arguments.

You are a jelly fish.
Common sense should have told you that "dragged" in that context has nothing to do with force.
Rivers State want as many states backing them as possible.
Now you have not been able to offer the question of why?
Yet you claimed Rivers needed no support.

Ubulu eke!

The Court is still subject to the FG.
The supreme judges are still answerable to the FG and obviously under their control.

Rivers and Lagos wanted it to be a South vs North something.They want the North cornered.
But SE will not play your game. We have our own game to play.

You can continue crying.

BKayy:

Neutrality means that we have nothing at stake.
Ok let me pour all out since you can't grab from the signs.
Lagos is staking their Port monopoly.
Rivers is staking Igbo Oil wells.

But what are we staking?
Nothing. We have absolutely Nothing to lose but gain.
So tell me why we should interrupt the party?

You couldn't have put it better.
You are a genius.

Nwanne, I have to know you offline.

Covidodo:
SE governors are hiding because they bring nothing significant to the table .
Imagine a Boko Haram ravaged Bornu state generating more revenue than most of the AfghanEASTERN States

Is it The army barracks and police stations and prisons that federal government shared around the southeast like confetti that will pay VAT, you all now pretend like you do not know the hatchet job the victors of the civil war carried out on NDIGBO.....go and fight for your VAT please.

Igboid:


You are a jelly fish.
Common sense should have told you that "dragged" in that context has nothing to do with force.
Rivers State want as many states backing them as possible.
Now you have not been able to offer the question of why?
Yet you claimed Rivers needed no support.

Ubulu eke!

The Court is still subject to the FG.
The supreme judges are still answerable to the FG and obviously under their control.

Rivers and Lagos wanted it to be a South vs North something.They want the North cornered.
But SE will not play your game. We have our own game to play.

You can continue crying.

Check this out

BKayy:

Neutrality means that we have nothing at stake.
Ok let me pour all out since you can't grab from the signs.
Lagos is staking their Port monopoly.
Rivers is staking Igbo Oil wells.

But what are we staking?
Nothing. We have absolutely Nothing to lose but gain.
So tell me why we should interrupt the party?

If any of the two (Lagos and Rivers) lose what they put at stake, who will benefit?
Is it not us?
So I don't understand why these people think that we will intrude when we are not stupid

BKayy:

Check this out


If any of the two (Lagos and Rivers) lose what they put at stake, who will benefit?
Is it not us?
So I don't understand why these people think that we will intrude when we are not stupid

Rivers lose out, we take back Obiigbo they stole from us, and take back Egbema and they better say goodbye to all the oil wells currently up for grabs between Imo and Rivers.
I swear, our lack of cunning and slimy Politicians have seen these Southerners do us shege!

Lagos lose, the North will get angry and open up the seaports all over the country, the monopoly they cornered since 1970 and are now crying VAT will be gone.
We will see which VAT they will be crying about going forward.

Ndi ara!

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Newton85:
Lol, don't mind the clown. Regions/states who contribute a huge chunk of VAT are slugging it out with FG and an Eboe is talking? Lol, Eboe psychosis on steroid.

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Ewedu afonja skull mining brown roof dweller

Newton85:
Shut up and keep your grandiose delusions to yourself! Lagos and Rivers don't want your support in the first place. What support can parasitic states that feed off of Lagos and Rivers offer both States? Are you alright in the head at all? "We will only be dragged into it, if any of the warring parties offer us incentives." You mean Lagos and Rivers, both of whom your parasitic South Eastern states feed off of via VAT, should offer your parasitic States "incentives"? I've always known you Eboes suffer from mass psychosis, but your own brand is very chronic. Go take your meds or check into rehab. What a delusional dimwit!

igbos are always claiming self importance you dont know before. . Reason why ghana, sa, kenya and asia countriesarse treating them like rags ..
They are delusional

BKayy:

Neutrality means that we have nothing at stake.
Ok let me pour all out since you can't grab from the signs.
Lagos is staking their Port monopoly.
Rivers is staking Igbo Oil wells.

But are we staking?
Nothing. We have absolutely Nothing to lose but gain.
So tell me why we should interrupt the party?

Look I don't have time for all these sensational victim mentality.

Which constitution, policy or law monopolised Lagos port. The fact remains that Lagos port attract more patronage because of its economic advantage over other ports and not because of any monopolization.
Stop whipping up sentiments and focus on subject of discussion that wants Igbos neutrality in VAT issue thereby exposing them as major parasite

BKayy:

Neutrality means that we have nothing at stake.
Ok let me pour all out since you can't grab from the signs.
Lagos is staking their Port monopoly.
Rivers is staking Igbo Oil wells.

But what are we staking?
Nothing. We have absolutely Nothing to lose but gain.
So tell me why we should interrupt the party?

I owe you 2 bottles of Hero lager beer with 2 plates of pepper soup and isi ewu. You have said it better nwanne.

Ttalk:


Look I don't have time for all these sensational victim mentality.

Which constitution, policy or law monopolised Lagos port. The fact remains that Lagos port attract more patronage because of its economic advantage over other ports and not because of any monopolization.
Stop whipping up sentiments and focus on subject of discussion that wants Igbos neutrality in VAT issue thereby exposing them as major parasite

Igbos want Biafra, Yorubas and the rest of NIGERIA want NIGERIA rigged in their favor post 1970 to remain with few more tweaks to allow them gain More.

I wonder who the real parasites are?
Those who want a country of their own, or those preaching fake unity built on inequity?

Ttalk:


Look I don't have time for all these sensational victim mentality.

Which constitution, policy or law monopolised Lagos port. The fact remains that Lagos port attract more patronage because of its economic advantage over other ports and not because of any monopolization.
Stop whipping up sentiments and focus on subject of discussion that wants neutrality in VAT issue thereby exposing them as major parasite

Go and slug ur VAT issue with FG. SE region is neutral and will never join both warring parties. Umu ezi

LILTJAY1:
igbos are always claiming self importance you dont know before. . Reason why ghana, sa, kenya and asia countriesarse treating them like rags ..
They are delusional

But you want us to support your venture nah, and we said No!
Yorubas are liked all over the world, we know, that's why we want to play neutral this time around, inugo!
Fight your VAT war, we watch from sidelines!

Igboid:


Igbos want Biafra, Yorubas and the rest of NIGERIA want NIGERIA rigged in the favor post 1970 to remain with few more tweaks to allow them gain More.

I wonder who the real parasites are?
Those who want a country of their own, or those preaching fake unity built on inequity?

Na a.bokis and afonjas

Igboid:


Rivers lose out, we take back Obiigbo they stole from us, and take back Egbema and they better say goodbye to all the oil wells currently up for grabs between Imo and Rivers.
I swear, our lack of cunning and slimy Politicians have seen these Southerners do us shege!

Lagos lose, the North will get angry and open up the seaports all over the country, the monopoly they cornered since 1970 and are now crying VAT will be gone.
We will see which VAT they will be crying about going forward.

Ndi ara!

You know that what triggered all these is the boundary adjustment issue that saw FG favouring Mr Supreme with the oil wells that are supposed to be in Imo in the first place.
Wike in a bid to get back at FG because the very existence of the confusion in Rivers is to stall Ndigbo came up with VAT as a means to water the loss.

Lagos wey be mumu come put mouth thinking that since Rivers which they calculated would be the only option to water their VAT by reopening Onne Port (rivers) is in the game forgetting that there is Warri port (Delta state). You now see why Okowa didn't waste time to sustain the heat?

In all this, if they win it will be a prryhic victory because
1. Lagos Port monopoly will be ended
2. Warri and Onne Port will be reactivated to Punish Lagos
3. Serious boundary adjustment will occur in Rivers state to punish Wike. This will favour Abia, Imo and Anambra.
4. To make the reactivation of the ports Viable, access road to favour the ports to the main destination of what used to come from Lagos port (SE) will be laid.

So you see. Its all win-win for us.
If the states lose.
FG will most importantly punish Lagos by reopening Onne and warri which will turn Wike, Okowa and Sanwo Olu from allies to competitors, then facilitate the Oil wells destined for Imo state to Imo State and more.
Though this one won't bring a big benefit for us but its something atleast.
Thats why we pray that Wike and Lagos win.

BKayy:

You know that what triggered all these is the boundary adjustment issue that saw FG favouring Mr Supreme with the oil wells that are supposed to be in Imo in the first place.
Wike in a bid to get back at FG because the very existence of the confusion in Rivers is to stall Ndigbo came up with VAT as a means to water the loss.

Lagos wey be mumu come put mouth thinking that since Rivers which they calculated would be the only option to water their VAT by reopening Onne Port (rivers) is in the game forgetting that there is Warri port (Delta state). You now see why Okowa didn't waste time to sustain the heat?

In all this, if they win it will be a prryhic victory because
1. Lagos Port monopoly will be ended
2. Warri and Onne Port will be reactivated to Punish Lagos
3. Serious boundary adjustment will occur in Rivers state to punish Wike. This will favour Abia, Imo and Anambra.
4. To make the reactivation of the ports Viable, access road to favour the ports to the main destination of what used to come from Lagos port (SE) will be laid.

So you see. Its all win-win for us.
If the states lose.
FG will most importantly punish Lagos by reopening only Onne which will turn Wike and Sanwo Olu from allies to competitors, then facilitate the Oil wells destined for Imo state to Imo State and more.
Though this one won't bring a big benefit for us but its something atleast.
Thats why we pray that Wike and Lagos win.

You so strategical in thinking.
Thanks for this exposition.

You should try and write articles on this topic and share on Facebook.
You can do it under anonymous tag.
But please do consider this.

Our people have not learnt to deal with Non Igbos in Nigeria with the ruthlessness they truly deserve and have dealt with us in the past.

We need to evolve our thinking as per relationship with non Igbo tribes in Nigeria ASAP.

Thanks for this dissection of issues.
You are good.

BKayy:

You know that what triggered all these is the boundary adjustment issue that saw FG favouring Mr Supreme with the oil wells that are supposed to be in Imo in the first place.
Wike in a bid to get back at FG because the very existence of the confusion in Rivers is to stall Ndigbo came up with VAT as a means to water the loss.

Lagos wey be mumu come put mouth thinking that since Rivers which they calculated would be the only option to water their VAT by reopening Onne Port (rivers) is in the game forgetting that there is Warri port (Delta state). You now see why Okowa didn't waste time to sustain the heat?

In all this, if they win it will be a prryhic victory because
1. Lagos Port monopoly will be ended
2. Warri and Onne Port will be reactivated to Punish Lagos
3. Serious boundary adjustment will occur in Rivers state to punish Wike. This will favour Abia, Imo and Anambra.
4. To make the reactivation of the ports Viable, access road to favour the ports to the main destination of what used to come from Lagos port (SE) will be laid.

So you see. Its all win-win for us.
If the states lose.
FG will most importantly punish Lagos by reopening only Onne which will turn Wike and Sanwo Olu from allies to competitors, then facilitate the Oil wells destined for Imo state to Imo State and more.
Though this one won't bring a big benefit for us but its something atleast.
Thats why we pray that Wike and Lagos win.

You hit the nail. And why is this issue not discussed in Igbo groups? I thought Slayerforever opened a closed Facebook group to that effect. It's obvious both Uzodinma, Umahi & Obiano are following this neutrality case seriously. Obiano and Anambra recently benefitted from being added to oil producing states.

Umahi is focusing on Igbo interest as regards a lot of burning issue. Uzodinma is not joking with the boundary adjustment to retrieve both ONELGA and Oyigbo from Rivers state. And the Supreme Court judgement for boundary adjustment is coming up this month if I’m correct. I also noticed that Imo state Governors from Udenwa to Uzodinma are following the template began from Mbakwe who started the battle to reclaim Igbo border communities handed to the SS.

Wike my smart Governor, seeing that Rivers might lose the oil wells battle to Imo decided to play smart with the VAT distraction. It's obvious Uzodinma is not taking non of that.

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Igboid:


You are a jelly fish.
Common sense should have told you that "dragged" in that context has nothing to do with force.
Rivers State want as many states backing them as possible.
Now you have not been able to offer the question of why?
Yet you claimed Rivers needed no support.

Ubulu eke!

The Court is still subject to the FG.
The supreme judges are still answerable to the FG and obviously under their control.

Rivers and Lagos wanted it to be a South vs North something.They want the North cornered.
But SE will not play your game. We have our own game to play.

You can continue crying.

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Lol typical mumu still claiming others were forced to act in their interest. Stay neutral bystanders while others correct mistakes through the courts. Rivers leads while you idiots pretend to be sophisticated. Nobody is dragging you mumus. Most likely your clown governors will tag along like usual.

We call that "sitting on the fence"and it's wicked.

orisa37:
We call that "sitting on the fence"and it's wicked.

There's nothing wicked about not jumping into the fry. If it doesn't matter to you sit back. Who called them anyway?

BKayy:

You know that what triggered all these is the boundary adjustment issue that saw FG favouring Mr Supreme with the oil wells that are supposed to be in Imo in the first place.
Wike in a bid to get back at FG because the very existence of the confusion in Rivers is to stall Ndigbo came up with VAT as a means to water the loss.

Lagos wey be mumu come put mouth thinking that since Rivers which they calculated would be the only option to water their VAT by reopening Onne Port (rivers) is in the game forgetting that there is Warri port (Delta state). You now see why Okowa didn't waste time to sustain the heat?

In all this, if they win it will be a prryhic victory because
1. Lagos Port monopoly will be ended
2. Warri and Onne Port will be reactivated to Punish Lagos
3. Serious boundary adjustment will occur in Rivers state to punish Wike. This will favour Abia, Imo and Anambra.
4. To make the reactivation of the ports Viable, access road to favour the ports to the main destination of what used to come from Lagos port (SE) will be laid.

So you see. Its all win-win for us.
If the states lose.
FG will most importantly punish Lagos by reopening Onne and warri which will turn Wike, Okowa and Sanwo Olu from allies to competitors, then facilitate the Oil wells destined for Imo state to Imo State and more.
Though this one won't bring a big benefit for us but its something atleast.
Thats why we pray that Wike and Lagos win.

So after rereading this again.
It turns out that our best card here should be neutrality.

Atleast I got that one right, even without being able to connect the missing dots like you did.

Igbo masses need to know this, so that they should stop bashing our governors for refusing to pitch tent with the SS and SW.

I'm not a fan of SE governors, but for once, they got their act right.
I Know Umahi must have done the maths. The rest there are just empty heads.

Igboid:


So after rereading this again.
It turns out that our best card here should be neutrality.

Atleast I got that one right, even without being able to connect the missing dots like you did.

Igbo masses need to know this, so that they should stop bashing our governors for refusing to pitch tent with the SS and SW.

I'm not a fan of SE governors, but for once, they got their act right.
I Know Umahi must have done the maths. The rest there are just empty heads.

You should target this message to IPOB daft leaders and their zombie followers. Spoilers alert.

Eastlink:
You hit the nail. And why is this issue not discussed in Igbo groups? I thought Slayerforever opened a closed Facebook group to that effect. It's obvious both Uzodinma, Umahi & Obiano are following this neutrality case seriously. Obiano and Anambra recently benefitted from being added to oil producing states.

Umahi is focusing on Igbo interest as regards a lot of burning issue. Uzodinma is not joking with the boundary adjustment to retrieve both ONELGA and Oyigbo from Rivers state. And the Supreme Court judgement for boundary adjustment is coming up this month if I’m correct. I noticed that Imo state Governors from Udenwa to Uzodinma are following the template began from Mbakwe who started the battle to reclaim Igbo border communities handed to the SS.

Wike my smart Governor, seeing that Rivers might lose the decided to Imo decided to play smart with the VAT distraction. It's obvious Uzodinma is not taking non of that.

Good work on the part of Uzodimma finally.
Even a prodigal son is still a son and must have a value.

It's time we played the spoiler to so called Southerners and regained all they cunningly took from us when we went to fight the North.
If we get back Egbema and Ndoni to Imo . And Oyigbo back to Abia! Nnaa! Uzodimma would be forgiven of all his sins and should be immortalized in the annals of Igbo history.

Interesting times ahead.

Fingers crossed for SE governors meeting press release tomorrow.

Eastlink:
You should target this message to IPOB daft leaders and their zombie followers. Spoilers alert.

Nnaa! IPOB better mind themselves.

If Uzodimma regains Ndoni and Egbema to Imo and goes extra mile to have Oyigbo returned to Abia!
I will rank him higher than Zik!

And what is the deal with Mary Odili?
Shouldn't she be helping us regain Egbema and Ndoni from those thieves claiming to be our neighbors and brothers?
Why am I hearing stories of her siding our enemies?
What's her plan?

Igboid:


Good work on the part of Uzodimma finally.
Even a prodigal son is still a son and must have a value.

It's time we played the spoiler to so called Southerners and regained all they cunningly took from us when we went to fight the North.
If we get back Egbema and Ndoni to Imo . And Oyigbo back to Abia! Nnaa! Uzodimma would be forgiven of all his sins and should be immortalized in the annals of Igbo history.

Interesting times ahead.

Fingers crossed for SE governors meeting press release tomorrow.

Who is the head of the South-East Governors forum? A lot of political battles are rearing their head. A lot of talking point. And I think since 1979, this is the first time Igbo leaders are putting Igbo interest first.

From 1995 till date, it was usually a pattern to support the south. SW and SS have always benefitted from SE magnanimity. I think it's time the SE play their politics right and benefit too. The era of fighting battles for others to enjoy should be a thing of the past.

Eastlink:
Who is the head of the South-East Governors forum? A lot of political battles are rearing their head. A lot of talking point. And I think since 1979, this is the first time Igbo leaders are putting Igbo interest first.

From 1995 till date, it was usually a pattern to support the south. SW and SS have always benefitted from SE magnanimity. I think it's time the SE play their politics right and benefit too. The era of fighting battles for others to enjoy should be a thing of the past.

It's still Umahi.
History beckons on him.
We must get it right this time around.

I would be devastated if I wake up and learn they didn't choose neutrality in that meeting.

I will lose hope totally in all of them and give my support fully to IPOB.

That stupid era of magnanimity to ungrateful wicked folks is gone with the wind.
I tell you, if GEJ event of 2010 happened now, I would campaign in all online forums to sway Igbo opinion against offering him any support.

From now onwards, we only offer support to things concerning us and that we stand to benefit directly from.

Anything else, we play neutrality and weigh our options.

Were you In this forum in 2010?

Igboid:


Nnaa! IPOB better mind themselves.

If Uzodimma regains Ndoni and Egbema to Imo and goes extra mile to have Oyigbo returned to Abia!
I will rank him higher than Zik!

And what is the deal with Mary Odili?
Shouldn't she be helping us regain Egbema and Ndoni from those thieves claiming to be our neighbors and brothers?
Why am I hearing stories of her siding our enemies?
What's her plan?

Mary Odili will always side her husband who is the benefactor to Wike. Rivers state elevated her to the Supreme Court position and so she'll side her interest. And we all know who will be the biggest loser if ONELGA is handed to the SE. Peter Odili himself.

Igboid:


It's still Umahi.
History beckons on him.
We must get it right this time around.

I would be devastated if I wake up and learn they didn't choose neutrality in that meeting.

I will lose hope totally in all of them and give my support fully to IPOB.

You’re following your emotions again. And who told you IPOB is fighting for Igbo interest? Know this and know peace. IPOB, MASSOB and BZM are anti-Igbo. Relegating Igbos to the background was the intention of those who formed IPOB and that has been happening since 2001.

Both of us have discussed this in the past and many of you haven't still learnt your lessons. Look behind the facade and you’ll see the real financiers and those benefitting from the SE lapse in federal politics.

You can't give what you don't have.

Igboid:
Somehow, I like the position of SE Governors on this stuff.
I think we should assume a neutral ground and let SS/SW battle it out with the North, while we watch from sidelines.

cc:Bkayy
Slayerforever

Eastlink:
Mary Odili will always side her husband who is the benefactor to Wike. Rivers state elevated her to the Supreme Court position and so she'll side her interest. And we all know who will be the biggest loser if ONELGA is handed to the SE. Peter Odili himself.

So how can we override this big impediment/encumbrance to our goal?

Chai! SE lack an intelligentsia!

Eastlink:
You’re following your emotions again. And who told you IPOB is fighting for Igbo interest? Know this and know peace. IPOB, MASSOB and BZM are anti-Igbo. Relegating Igbos to the background was the intention of those who formed IPOB and that has been happening since 1999.
Both of us have discussed this in the past and many of you haven't still learnt your lessons. Look behind the facade and you’ll see the real financiers and those benefitting from the SE lapse in federal politics.

So if SE Governors arise from that meeting in Enugu tomorrow and give support to SW/SS , considering the insight currently at our disposal here, what would you make of that?

Igboid:


So how can we override this big impediment/encumbrance to our goal?

Chai! SE lack an intelligentsia!

IPOB is the new intelligentsia