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Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by k4kenny(f): 11:34am On Oct 08, 2021
chigator2:


So do you qualify for Heaven by the number of Hours you pray or by actually being a good person.

As I said, this mentality breeds Hypocrisy.

According to your Explanation, A terrorist can be confident in his atrocity as long as he prays he a stipulated quantity of hours or so.

This is what differentiates True Faith from Earthly Religion

I've decided a while back to simply stop responding to posts made by bigots but I feel it'll be unjust to leave you with your misunderstanding of our Deen.

@Bolded, Islam is against random acts of violence, forget what the media and those who misquote the Qu'ran say. Islamis a deen balanced on Imaan(faith) and 'amal(deeds). If you pray from morning to night and don't balance it with sincere good deeds, your bad acts will be used against you on the Day of reocmpense. Conversely, if you engage in charitable acts and don't balance it with sincere acts of worship to Allah, the deeds will carry no weight on the Day.

So do you qualify for Heaven by the number of Hours you pray or by actually being a good person.

As Allah repeatedly states in the Qur'an BOTH have to be sincererly fulfilled if one hopes to meet with his Lord in the Hereafter.

And Allah knows best.

Ma salaam.

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Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Babaheekmat: 11:36am On Oct 08, 2021
Like I knew..

Nonsense fatawa this lukgaf will pass..
I pity those of you that refuses to learn about Islam and just jump at anything anybody say
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Babaheekmat: 11:38am On Oct 08, 2021
There's whole chapter of hadiths regarding the prayers of travelers .


Where in those hadiths that you see that it's allowed for a traveler to perform salah behind a resident?

Traveler would combine his prayers together
The number of prayers of resident and traveler is not the same EXCEPT FOR SUBHI
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Babaheekmat: 11:39am On Oct 08, 2021
Concerning jumuah.. Jumuah is NOT for traveler. Traveler is to combine zuhr and ashr together at the time of ashr.

Instead of Jumuah, it would be zuhr.
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by k4kenny(f): 11:42am On Oct 08, 2021
drlateef:





If you want to know the way, stop paying tithe to your pastor and let’s see if Christianity will exist within 2 years.

Go and google 'Fastest Declining religion'and see for yourself. Christianity has become a caricature Africans desperately cling on to. According to ex Christian, Tim Humble(Now Muhammad smiley ) The only way one can continue being a Christian is by absolute ignorance. Lots of loopholes and bloopers in their doctrine, yet they go around making jest of others.

May Allah grant them shif'ah.

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Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by k4kenny(f): 11:44am On Oct 08, 2021
chigator2:


Well, That is your cross, carry it.

I guess Allahs knows best, why even with all his prescribed rules, most Muslims are not Terrorists but most Terrorists are Muslims, grin

Most of the most heinous crimes commited in history were done by non Muslims. You are just one of the many indoctrinated by the media into believing terrorism belongs to a certain faith or group of people. Emancipate yourself from mental slavery.

Peace out.
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by k4kenny(f): 11:46am On Oct 08, 2021
Babaheekmat:
Concerning jumuah.. Jumuah is NOT for traveler. Traveler is to combine zuhr and ashr together at the time of ashr.

Instead of Jumuah, it would be zuhr.



Na'am. But that only applies to those who are currently on the road with no masaajid nearby. If they're able to locate a masjid, then they can observe jumu'ah.

Wallahu 'alam.

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Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Kubernetes: 11:50am On Oct 08, 2021
AlphaAlex:
grin grin grin grin grin Omo this people done come again with all this their fantasy ruling and Restrictions ; Are you people not tired of entertaining the thought of someone else.? No wonder the north is backwards y’all keep revisiting nonsense just to feel religiously Satisfied grin ; una mumu plenty sha

Everything we do in worship has its protocols.
And thats why we are Muslims.
North being backward has nothing to do with Islam but probably due to their laziness, bad governance and culture.
Those that are hardworking like Dubai, Qatar, Malaysia, Kuwait etc are doing great. I am sure you should be fuming with anger to see a small company in Saudi trying to buy Newcastle within the blink of eye.

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Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Gratitudes081(m): 11:55am On Oct 08, 2021
Lukgaf:
One of the mercy of Islam is that if you are a traveller, you are permitted to shorten Solat Dhur, Asr and Ishai from 4 to 2 rakahs. This is called Qos'r (refer to the thread where this has been exclusively discussed). You can do this when you're praying alone or you lead others in Solah as imam. What if you are praying behind a resident Imam who will complete the length of the Solah? Are you still going to shorten the length? Below thread provides an answer to this question




Source: IslamQA

Salaam alaekum brother,
For how long will a traveler be considered a traveler to be entitled to shortening prayers and start praying full and complete sola'at?
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by chigator2: 12:07pm On Oct 08, 2021
k4kenny:


Most of the most heinous crimes commited in history were done by non Muslims. You are just one of the many indoctrinated by the media into believing terrorism belongs to a certain faith or group of people. Emancipate yourself from mental slavery.

Peace out.

Here we go again with the Blame game.

I agree I'm Indoctrinated by the Media but we both will agree that these Media didn't Indoctrinate Boko Haram, ISIS, Taliban, Ansaru, Bandits, Al-Qaeda and the rest of your brethren.

Topmost is that, these terrorists were not Indoctrinated by a Pastor, in a Church with a Bible rather they were deceived by an Islamic Cleric, in a Mosque using a Quran.

So who is a slave now ?? The Earlier you guys admit that Islam has a fundamental problem or is actually false, the better for the rest of the world.

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Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Topzee109: 12:13pm On Oct 08, 2021
Femiwilli:

na why everywhere it is, it terrorism
Is there peace in the North?
What about South East

All Hypocrites will die a painful death

Say amen
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Topzee109: 12:14pm On Oct 08, 2021
chigator2:


So do you qualify for Heaven by the number of Hours you pray or by actually being a good person.

As I said, this mentality breeds Hypocrisy.

According to your Explanation, A terrorist can be confident in his atrocity as long as he prays he a stipulated quantity of hours or so.

This is what differentiates True Faith from Earthly Religion

You know nothing about Islam, so just shut up
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Proffwhyhurry12(m): 12:16pm On Oct 08, 2021
Highbeepeeh:
Jazakhumullah khairan
Allahumo ameen, waiyakun.
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by myhappyhome: 12:21pm On Oct 08, 2021
AlphaAlex:
grin grin grin grin grin Omo this people done come again with all this their fantasy ruling and Restrictions ; Are you people not tired of entertaining the thought of someone else.? No wonder the north is backwards y’all keep revisiting nonsense just to feel religiously Satisfied grin ; una mumu plenty sha

U be mumu yourself..

Idiots.
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Babaheekmat: 12:22pm On Oct 08, 2021
k4kenny:


Na'am. But that only applies to those who are currently on the road with no masaajid nearby. If they're able to locate a masjid, then they can observe jumu'ah.

Wallahu 'alam.

Bring dalil that they can
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Babaheekmat: 12:24pm On Oct 08, 2021
Gratitudes081:


Salaam alaekum brother,
For how long will a traveler be considered a traveler to be entitled to shortening prayers and start praying full and complete sola'at?

Until he's no longer a traveler
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Nobody: 12:25pm On Oct 08, 2021
myhappyhome:


U be mumu yourself..

Idiots.
thank God say you be mumu too , a whole human being will be dependent on someone else to teach him how he should think and live life . Terrorist sympathisers tufiakwa. You won’t go and help Almajiris out of poverty after you will be preaching religion of peace and love up and down . I spit on your hypocrisies

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Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Nobody: 12:27pm On Oct 08, 2021
Kubernetes:


Everything we do in worship has its protocols.
And thats why we are Muslims.
North being backward has nothing to do with Islam but probably due to their laziness, bad governance and culture.
Those that are hardworking like Dubai, Qatar, Malaysia, Kuwait etc are doing great. I am sure you should be fuming with anger to see a small company in Saudi trying to buy Newcastle within the blink of eye.
I care about black Muslims in black Africa those are the ones that don’t have sense. Who gives two shits about Newcastle football club ? I support progress wherever it’s necessary,
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Slleexyz: 12:29pm On Oct 08, 2021
Jazakallahu khairan amin
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Lukgaf(m): 12:36pm On Oct 08, 2021
Gratitudes081:


Salaam alaekum brother,
For how long will a traveler be considered a traveler to be entitled to shortening prayers and start praying full and complete sola'at?

Wa alekum salam waramotulah wabarakatuh

Cf; https://islamqa.info/en/answers/60358/they-travelled-for-twenty-days-during-which-they-shortened-their-prayers-do-they-have-to-make-them-up
Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Ibkhaleel01: 12:57pm On Oct 08, 2021
Terrence99:
Please, which Muslim can tell me the rewards for women in Islam?
Following are some rights, which Muslim women have!

1. The RIGHT and duty to acquire education.

2. The RIGHT to have her own independent property.

3. The RIGHT to work [job or business] to earn money, which she keeps it.

4. The RIGHT to equal reward for equal deed and/or work.

5. The RIGHT to express her opinion.

6. The RIGHT to argue and/or advocate her cause or opinion to be heard.

7. The RIGHT to vote since 1,421 years.

8. The RIGHT to provisions from her husband for all her needs and more.

9. The RIGHT to negotiate marriage terms of her choice.

10.The RIGHT to obtain divorce from her husband, even on the grounds that she simply don't like him. In Islaam divorce is suppose to be last resort.

11.The RIGHT to keep all her own money. [She is not responsible for maintenance of family].

12.The RIGHT to get sexual satisfaction from her husband.

13.The RIGHT to get custody of her children in case of divorce [unless she is unable to raise them for valid reasons]

14.The RIGHT to choose husband of her choice.

15.The RIGHT to refuse a proposed and/or arranged marriage.

16. The RIGHT to re-marry after divorce or after becoming widow.

EXEMPTIONS GIVEN TO WOMEN IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCE.

Women are exempt from:

a.. Fasting when they are pregnant or nursing or menstruating,
b.. Praying when menstruating or bleeding after childbirth,
c.. The obligation to attend congregational prayers in the mosque on Fridays.
d.. They are not obliged to take part as soldiers in the defense of Islam, although they are not forbidden to do so.
But under normal circumstances they are allowed to do all the things that men do.

- Even when they are menstruating, on special days, like the two Eid festivals, they are still allowed to come to the Eid prayers, and menstruating women can take part in most of the actions of the Hajj pilgrimage.

Islamic laws does not requires that women should confine themselves to household duties.

Muslim women have [and are as well] headed Islamic provinces [and states as well], like Arwa bint Ahmad, who served as governor of Yemen under the Fatimid Khalifahs in the late fifth and early sixth century.

Name any other religion, political theory, or philosophy which offers such a comprehensiveness to women by giving her total control of her life and affairs NONE

Think on this!

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Re: You're A Traveller Praying Behind A Imam, Can You Still Shorten Your Solah? by Ibkhaleel01: 12:59pm On Oct 08, 2021
Terrence99:
Please, which Muslim can tell me the rewards for women in Islam?
 

"...I will not suffer the work of any worker from among you to be lost whether male or female, the one of you being from the other."  Surah Al-Imran:195

 

"O you who believe, it is not lawful for you to take women as heritage against their will. Nor should you straiten them…."   Surah Al-Nisa:19

 

“…the world lies at the feet of mothers.”  Prophet Muhammad(saas)

 

“O’ ye men. Fear Allah and treat your women with kindness.”  Prophet Muhammad(saas)



Islam Is Not Against Women Folks
One of the many misconceptions about Islam in the world is the belief that the religion is an enemy of women folk. Factually, series of efforts have been made by divergent categories of unbelievers and ardent hypocrites in different parts of the world to present Islam in absurd manners and call the religion and its adherents what they are not before the entire universe.

Their sole aim is to discredit Islam in order to lose its revered value in all aspects of human endeavours while the Owner of the religion has preserved His religion.
Through these misconceptions and projections, Islam is seen, by those who are deceived by these human plots, concoctions and lies, as an enemy of human development, progress and civilization.
However, despite all these demonizing efforts by these clear enemies of Islam, the religion has invalidated their claims and proved instrumental and developmental to human growths in all spheres.

First of all, there is need to understand the aim and objectives of Islam in all its laws and instructions so as to know what to call the religion. From all indications and interpretations, Islam has not made any oppressive, reprehensible injunctions and laws for its followers to abide by but made its instructions convenient, simple and good-worthy in all time.

How could someone imagine that the Creator of the creatures and the Lord of the universe will impose or make anything oppressive on His servants and creatures? For what reason? Many Islamic injunctions have answered this rotten question of humanity and insanity.


Generally, Islam considered both gender (male and female) as equal servants in the sight of Allah and only distinguish them in piety and righteousness. At the same time, we should try to understand the fact that

Islam has assigned different roles and duties to both gender. While they share duties in some activities, they have separate and individual roles to play in others.

These are the laws of Islam binding on every obedient Muslim, made by Allah, the Sole Creator. For both gender, Islam orders everyone to stay on his boundary; no addition and no subtraction.


In this regard, what is mostly attributed to Islam is Gender inequality. This attribution is not only false but a greater lie against Islam. In its essence, Islam is a gender-balanced religion in its laws and principles taking into consideration the reality in the creation of woman, her power, ability and capacity.

In regards to social mannerism of female in Islam, there are many binding injunctions of permission and prohibition guiding women on social behaviour with family, associates, friends and the general public. The permission implies that there is no harm in putting such manner in actions while prohibition is simply in the interest of humanity as ordered by Allah. The restriction of female in some social roles by Islam is nothing but a protection and safety on her personality. In a society where the restriction is not in force, such society will harbour a lot of social vices and atrocities exacerbated by lack of implementation of such restriction.

Let's check our society in this aspect!
Of dressing, Islam dictates unique, special honoured and dignified dressings for female Muslims which obeying such will enhance their security and protection against any social forces threatening her dignity and pride. Indeed, Islamic dressing in general and women's in specific, is the most perfect and a pride to uphold. Contradicting these righteous forms of dressing will tantamount to invitation of social vices in the society. We should have a glance on our society here too!
And in family affairs, there are designated individual roles and responsibilities for both gender taking into cognizance the reality. Islam has done justice to both gender in this regard. Studying and reasoning deep on the instructions of Islam on such will lead to one's guidance of Islam being a humane inclined, real, practicable and instrumental religion to humanity. It is so unfortunate that our community pay deaf ears to the guidance of Islam and we keep witnessing the doom.


In recap, we should conclude that contrary to the prevalent stereotype, notion and claims by many people of the world including deceiving Muslims, traditional religious texts show that Islam valued, dignified and respect women folks. Also, the world should try to distinguish between the pure teachings of Islam on matters and the practices of some 'ignorant' Muslims in the society. And to have a free society from all sorts of vices, we should go back to the guidance of Islam. May Almighty Allah keep protecting Islam and the Muslims from the plots of their enemies. Amee

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