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| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by SeaTrade(m): 5:24pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
CaptainAyub:Same as me. My sister right from boarding school days had more allowance,provision and care than I got. Went to school abroad and got her entire medical program funded from Africa. Me na here I go my own,then enter market begin battle with men weh don dey system before them born me for dominance,na wetin I see be that. No one set me up,I struggled very badly for headway using my fees as working capital, Only luck I got was I started very early when I was still very young,energetic and agile.Right then from my 200l days . Later some clowns will come and be shouting marginalisation. What a joke! 6 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Xbs1: 5:25pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
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| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by FreeIgboho: 5:25pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
angelfallz: There is something even stronger than a law stopping them. At lease you can evade a law. It is customs and culture. It is the paternalistic society. It is conditioning and expectations. It is the entire system. Much more powerful than a mere law 1 Like |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by pocohantas(f): 5:25pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
JayCynic: It is not my concern, it is the summary of the thread. Nigerian woman are rich, independent and hard working.  4 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by reddingtonblack: 5:25pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
BRATISLAVA: 3 Likes
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| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by dollynnn(f): 5:31pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
Lovelyperson:Thanks! 1 Like |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Owen247: 5:35pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
dollynnn:some guys even droped out of school so that their younger sis can continue.infact i dnt want to say much. 6 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by SenecaTheYonger: 5:35pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
FreeIgboho: Presidents are not chosen based on law and culture but by law and politics. Nobody is going to throw a crown on a woman and call her president without her getting in the mud and fighting it out with other candidates 5 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by oshaosha2014(m): 5:35pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
African men don't know what is about to hit at all. They are already feeling the hit in places like the western world yet those females still claim they are being marginalized. These female species will take everything and remain nothing for you. Very self-centered. They are the same all over the world. Them go manipulate una die! SenecaTheYonger: 5 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Tomek09(m): 5:36pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
Na the vagina wey ladies get dey confuse them. Mtcheeeeeeew 4 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by angelfallz(m): 5:37pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
FreeIgboho: Mrs Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Genevieve Nnaji Mrs Omotola Jalade Ekeinde Mrs Folorunsho Alakija Late Mrs Dorathy Akunyili Mrs Virginia Etiaba Mrs Miriam Olusanya Mrs Patricia Olubunmi Foluke Etteh and many other Nigerian women who are making it, would strongly disagree with you. 4 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by dollynnn(f): 5:37pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
Owen247:You are correct. 1 Like |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by PrimadonnaO(f): 5:38pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
badman007: Enlighten the good people of Nairaland then. What are the real issues around women marginalisation today? 7 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by reddingtonblack: 5:39pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
pocohantas: How does doing well educationally and career wise negate wealthy that does not commensurate with net income thats the focus that is what we've always pointed out. does your own lifestyle commensurate with your personal income  lets not even start remember some of us can kill IQ  3 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by pansophist(m): 5:39pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
FreeIgboho: Rubbish. Total, arrant, rubbish. Using your logic, Nigeria is 50% men, how many women are electric pole climbers, shit packers, truck drivers, thief catchers, bricklayers, panel beaters, cow killers and more ? All my life, I've never seen women do these jobs. A question for you Mr equality, do you know any women that applied for these jobs that was rejected? Just one? One more thing to add, the Scandinavia is praised as being the region on earth where gender equality is a reality of life. The government in Sweden comprises of women mostly even, just go to youtube and search for "Swedish House of assembly", its mostly women. Still, women don't do this jobs. Infact it is proven that the more equal a society becomes, then the work disparity widens. Men still earn more than women everywhere because men do the jobs women don't want to do. Everywhere, there are advertisement about recruiting more women in STEM fields, but few applies. Now put advert about models needed, then it would be filled with women. The failure to accept that men and women are not the same, and also do not want the same thing is the basis for expecting 50/50 everywhere. Nonsense 27 Likes 3 Shares |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by JayCynic(m): 5:39pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
pocohantas: No that's not true, it's your comprehension of the thread that is skewed to your own warped perspective. The summary, the actual summary of this thread isn't of Nigerian women being rich, independent or hard-working. It is that women who complain of being marginalized in reality have the same opportunities as men. People, especially the feminists who say otherwise are liars and hypocrites. 10 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Justbehave(m): 5:40pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
Owen247:This one is really touching and still yet,they feel men are marginalizing them. This only prove a point. Women are greedy and difficult to satisfy. I pity men who are still blind to what is happening. 5 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by nick50(m): 5:40pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
Men are d ones being marginalised, go to our higher institutions 80% of our graduates and undergraduates are women cos most of the male folks were sent to learn a trade or do apprentice at tender age or after secondary school..Nigerian parents now believe men can fend for themselves while they use all thier resources to train the female child so she won't go into prostitution but sadly most of dem end up as prostitutes directly or indirectly Talking about being a billionaire most women are very lazy n afraid to study meaningful courses in school, u will see them park themselves in a less stressful department like social sciences, studying business administration and mass communication while males jostle for courses like engineering, mathematics, medicine n surgery..Nigerian women are even too lazy to study nursing instead dey allow men take it from dem..they avoid science related courses especially mathematics So tell me when a hospital wants to hire nurses and doctors they will hire someone that studied mass communications simply because she is a female? I think Nigerian women are not serious..I pity who born dem plenty 9 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by PrimadonnaO(f): 5:42pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
FreeIgboho: You know you've not said anything, yeah? How has the paternalistic society stopped women from aspiring to be President et al? 10 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by seyz91(m): 5:43pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
Confirm! you said it all Godoverevery: 1 Like |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Biglittlelois(f): 5:43pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
pocohantas: 3 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by pocohantas(f): 5:44pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
JayCynic: This is the summary of the thread. Contrary to claims by feminist, Nigerian men wants them to know that Nigerian women are actually working and make up a good percentage of the total workforce. Feminist, take note. 6 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by bukatyne(f): 5:46pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
PrimadonnaO: 2 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by FreeIgboho: 5:48pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
SenecaTheYonger: But they can systemically discourage her right from birth to even think of aspiring to such 2 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Justbehave(m): 5:50pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
FreeIgboho:Please stop. You are capping incoherently 6 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Appswheel(m): 5:51pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
Post below is as seen on a WhatsApp group. On a personal note, I do not not agree that one sex is a slave of the other. SLAVERY OF MEN BY WOMEN German writer Esther Villar In her book *"The Manipulated Man"* that caused outrage and hostile criticism from women explains how women since the earliest times have manipulated men and turned them into their slaves, they have pretended to be the oppressed sex while in the real sense they are the oppressors. She explains how a woman manipulates a man skillfully by steps like courtship and finally marriage, hence the saying *"a man chases a woman until SHE catches him".* In her book she explains how the man is tricked to care for the woman all his life and her offspring. He rolls the stone like Sisyphus and in turn gets rewarded by a few minutes of sexual pleasure. We can, by observing Esther Villars assertions that a man is a slave of his desires and the woman uses and has used it for thousands of years as a stick and carrot to keep the man chasing vanity and commit his life to serving her. She goes ahead to explain the rivalry of women, how each woman feels the powerful urge and need to own a male for herself. Like a slave owner she detests any move the man would make to offer his services to another woman. She uses all means to keep the man to herself and her offspring alone. Esther Villar's sentiments are captured by Nigerian Poet, critic and writer, Chinweizu Ibekwe in his book, *"The Anatomy of Female Power"*(AFP) and Will Farrel's, *"The Predatory Female*. They all push the theory that all societies are matriarchal and not patriarchal as we are pushed and forced to believe. Matriarchy has ruled not through brawn but wits and tricks; women feigning weakness to be protected etc. Thus the male becomes the most exploited sex in human history,(in wars the man is always ready to die for the woman; he has been trained to do that). Chinweizu calls the idea of dating and courtship, training, like that of a horse. It is during this time that a woman having kept the man on a leash by denying him sex and getting him addicted to her by false charms, trains and breaks him to whatever she wants him to become. The marriage celebration becomes a celebration for the woman and her friends, and they all congratulate her for having succeeded in getting herself a slave. A man on that wedding day waves goodbye to his independence and his coalition of males and commits himself to a Sisyphean life, rolling the stone, an act he cannot abandon having society and the government checking on him and always ready to jail, shame or exile him for absconding his duties. *Thus the government and society helps the woman in keeping her slave in check.* Chinweizu gives a narration of how women are trained by older matriarchs to tame men. He explains how a man is trained to rely on women by his own mother. A man is shamed for cooking for himself and other domestic chores by his own mother who is an agent of the global matriarchal rule. By getting the man to hate domestic works and having it enforced by culture which warns men against going into the kitchen, doing laundry etc., the mother trains his son for the woman who will captivate him and when the time comes she takes hold of the man's stomach and by getting the man addicted to her body she holds him by the two, in bed and in the kitchen. With those two weapons she manipulates the man and turns him into her plaything. In the *"Myth of the Male Power"*, Esther Villar's *" A Man's Right to the Other Woman"*; *"The Polygamous Sex"*, the authors of those books challenge the narrative that men oppress women, and by detailed research across African,Western and Eastern both in ancient and modern societies, the authors unravel the hidden power of the ruthless matriarchal power that rules the world. *Presidents, Emperors and Kings are all puppets of the matriarchy forces that rule the World by pulling the strings from behind the curtains.* *�Man, Take it or Leave it!�* 10 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by FreeIgboho: 5:51pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
angelfallz: And these are the exceptions. What percentage of the populace are these? Like I said, it takes the rare woman and circumstances to be able to rise above the conditioning and exoectations 2 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by Owen247: 5:51pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
dollynnn:Some self go enta uni come forget school dey do runsgirl ,Dey travel d whole 36 states 4 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by JayCynic(m): 5:54pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
pocohantas: You didn't have to edit my post, now you're just trolling. Okay bye 4 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by bukatyne(f): 5:55pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
pansophist: Posts like the one you responded to gets very irritating fast. @bold: a very nice point. If the most 'equal' society still has these disparities, isn't it common sense to conclude that men would naturally default to some things while women would naturally default to others because they are different? Isn't it common sense to realize that me & women don't want same things? Ask the women wailing how they are marginalized or how many of them have been stopped from doing the things they list, everyone would be MIA. Open the presidential slot for Nigeria today and say only interest would make you win; more men than women would still indicate interest. Infact, many women who have the opportunity to write their names WOULD write their husband's names and dream how their first lady office would be. Men and Women are NOT SAME and DO NOT WANT same things. There can be equal opportunities (which has been achieved largely in Nigeria); there WILL never be equal outcomes. I will exempt the North because they have a more complex problem; when you talk of child marriage for the girls, you are talking Alimanjri and child soldiers/banditry for the boys. The OP has listed his points; those who feel women are marginalized should counter his points logically. 16 Likes 3 Shares |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by cococandy(f): 5:57pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
The people you’re addressing are too dumb for this conversation. As if outlawing gender based marginalization automatically means everyone’s mindset has changed and men in authority will stop their discrimination against women. It’s like talking to goats. They won’t get it FreeIgboho: 5 Likes |
| Re: Marginalisation: Women Playing The Victim Cards by membranus: 5:57pm On Oct 13, 2021 |
FreeIgboho: Don't you have any other objection than this your "paternalistic society" rebuttal. Even what you meant by the term, and how it has affected the Okonjo Iwealla, Awosika, Usman, Ezekwesili, Merkel and Thatcher from getting to the top, you failed to enlighten us. You keep on repeating the same thing. Please find better argument to butress your point. 2 Likes |
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