FreeIgboho:


I don't think you know the meaning of fallacy. So why don't men become nurses which is in high demand instead of being unemployed? Nursing is a JOB and there is no part of it a man can't do very well. It is not the job, it is tradition and societal conditioning and expectations - same things that have women excluded from so many career paths in Nigerian society. It is like saying all one needs is pass an exam to get in - ignoring that some people have been systemically programmed to fail the exam or not even apply to take the exam. Evidence of systemic exclusion is in the result

cococandy:


How is the north an isolated case when their population is almost a third of the country . A country of over 200 million people?

Because no one stopped you from going to school and getting a job doesn’t mean inequality has stopped being a problem in Nigeria.

crackhaus:

Lmao...

Intangible is a good word.



They respond by telling you that women are not really marginalized, but the reason they can't aspire to certain things is because they've been conditioned NOT to.

Such blatant lack of personal responsibility for their own lives being masqueraded as feminism and women's rights.

advanceDNA:



many men are not nurses not becos culture or society or anything is hindering them but becos most men are not wired that way in the end.. its called eventual outcome....even if many men study nursing today, you will eventually find many of them going into something else....
we have more male engineers today becos of the way men are wired, not because someone hindered women....in fact half the few women in engineering today will still somehow end up as makeup artist or dealer in women and baby clothing....why..."eventual outcome"

. so if you like give all the women scholarship in the world to study engineering for free(its great).....i tell u ..u will still have more men in engineering and practicing it at the end because u cant force equality of eventual outcome, no matter how much u force equality of opportunities..... men and women are not wired by nature the same way........corporations?

cococandy:
Oh I gave you an example and suddenly it doesn’t apply.

The people who don’t know y’all’s gaslighting techniques na the people I dey pity.
If it’s happening right in front of you, you will still deny and try to make anyone who talks about it out to be a liar.

Relative to your present world, can your sisters inherit your father’s property that is located in the family compound passed down from great grandfather to grandfather to your father?
Because if yours can, in many parts of Nigeria, others cannot. Even though there’s no law that prevents women from inheritance, it still happens which means the law is not the problem but the underlying mindset and beliefs about women’s place in society.

Is that relative enough for your present world? Or do you need more examples so that you can gaslight your way out of acknowledging the truth?

DoggoneDogg:
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All these fools you listed don't even half of what Genevieve Nnaji, Omotola, Funke Akindele & co earn.

Don't be fooled.

Na hospital bills dey always expose dem. Have you ever seen an actress beg for hospital bills

Even Mr. Ibu couldn't foot his bills.

hmm may God help Us in this country

Godoverevery:
What is the point of sending a female child to school and empowering her if at the end of it all she still feels marginalised.

Right from my primary school in the early 90's till this point I always competit with ladies on the same level ground...nothing was given to me freely because am a man.
Is really annoying that people like ini edo and co will always come out to play the same old card of African female child/women are marginalised....this am a woman change is a total nonsense because is fellow women that mocks themselves.

I will be analysing every sector and section of social life to prove this old lies wrong

Education
Just take a look around you and tell me which female child is actually stopped from going to school because of her gender......Right from my primary school untill university there were more female student than the male......we receive the same quality of Education so were the marginalisation??

Work/job
Currently in nigeria is easy for a woman to get a job than a man.....Apart from the engineering sector which is dominated by the male most sector is dominated by the female(banks,medical,hotels,entertainment)...so were the marginalisation.

Politics
Nobody gifts anyone an elective post anywhere in the world rather you fight for it....Men fight for it with blood and sweat so if a woman wants to hold this post she must be ready to fight not expecting to be handed over on a platter.
If a woman should come out to contest for elective post in this country even her fellow women won't vote for her....so were is the marginalisation

Entertainment
Is no news apart from music which men dominant the movie industry is dominated by the female who make more money than the male....people like ini edo won't question why they are paid more than there male colleagues in the same profession.

Relationship/marriage
Today in nigeria if you can not provide for your family u are useless man.....even in ordinary relationship a lady will expect you to provide things she needs..No money No love yet they still complain and play victim card.
They can't date broke guys but will expect well to do guys to date a lady who can't even do a 1k sub for herself......they only have the right to choose but not men......were is the marginalisation

In marriage you pay to marry her,you provide shelter, food,clothing etc...if the marriage crash you pay child support.....A full adult totally dependent on another and still feel she meant to be equal with him......were is the marginalisation


State and federal government pays equally to both gender on the same level
Private sector pays equally to both gender on the same level.

I have a lil sis.....there was nothing I enjoy or had that she didn't get from our parent.....I challenge any lady here to tell me how she was treated inferior to her brothers.

What is the point of sending a female child to school from primary to higher institution and at the end of the day she will be totally dependent on the man and will always feel she isn't given enough to be independent.

The moment we start debunking the lies and stop victim mentality the better for the next generation of girls.....this lies is the reason why most our ladies are unproductive and lazy.

Help the female child by letting her know she can do it on her own.....she can competit and no one can stop her except herself.

Women stop spreading the message of victim mentality/marginalisation to our girls this 2021 not 1960.

richmond500:
Leave them joh, them think say to be a man na bobo

Even Bobrisky no fit handle the pressure, he had to run.

The other day, a man poured a lady water from his convoy and gave her 500k as compensation, u know how many water dem don pour me? 5 naira I never see, the last person weh pour me water even nearly beat me cos I told him "thunder fire ur landlord"

SeaTrade:
Head of project?
You don't know what you are saying.

PrimadonnaO:



To allude women's decision to not aspire to certain positions and heights to societal conditioning is just too intangible.

How can that be measured?


How have you reached that conclusion?

So if a woman says "I'm not running for the office of the President because society doesn't expect me to" do you think she still has any right to scream marginalisation?

No, she doesn't. Because her limitation is in her head, and there is nothing in the real sense stopping her from breaking free of it.

crackhaus:

reddingtonblack:

c'mon we both know the example did not match our present world, no matter how good we are at denying, trust me a current reference would have shut our camp gas off
Did you hear dangote daughter was left out of his father wealthy, or hear the real coco- adeleke is not enjoying is father's wealthy, cuppy no be person daughter, i know you are always missing something buh how did you miss all that, should i tell you the life igbinedion daughters are chopping, follow ex gov ladoja daughter what about adeola smart,
Naa for poor man will, female child no dey see inheritance, as if their is anything to inherit sef, coco a lot as changed, you need to reset ur date/clock

PrimadonnaO:

It still remains sectional, because it's not the reality in the entire county.

And if the North is the reason people still scream women marginalisation today, then the narrative should be framed correctly, as "marginalisation of the girl-child in the north."

Godoverevery:

And the question is who are the people who program them to fail

Is it the men that tell the girl child all she needs is to get a rich man and that all??

The female have themselves to blame for this and not we men..

Nothing will be handed over to you....you must fight for it because that's life.

PrimadonnaO:



Lack of personal responsibility for one's own life.

Simple and short.

Magnoliaa:

Pure wonderment, mah sistur.

Feminists; be giving alfas headache since 19-ojukokoro.

FreeIgboho:


You are ridiculously wrong and easily proven so. You forget Nigeria is not the only country in the world. In some societies there are almost same number of male and female doctors and nurses, and more and more men going into nursing due to corona. What prevents Nigerian men from entering an in-denand field like nursing. Therin lies your answer.(We know from other societies that it is not "male wiring"

Justbehave:
So how does all these female actors buy expensive cars and build mansions? While the men can't even pay their bills.

cococandy:


Do you believe you have more personal responsibility for your own life than Ini Edo (for example).

What I see some ladies do on here when it comes this topic is due to limited understanding of the scope of this discussion.

“Oh there’s so called marginalization but how was I able to get educated and get a great job and support myself?” Nobody stopped me. So it must mean that those women who speak about this issue are lazy and irresponsible for their own lives. They want things handed to them but I’m different because I’m responsible for my own life.”

That’s how it comes across.
Hun you do not have better initiative or more personal accountability than the outspoken women who chose to talk about the issue. Some of them have achievements that we all know of at national and international levels. So at the very least, we know they are not lazy and waiting for someone to hand them things. Case in point chimamanda for example.

So who exactly is it that’s passionate about this topic that you would consider lazy and irresponsible for their own lives?

In fact I’m presenting this question to ladies who consider others as having victim mentality or as being whiners when this topic comes up.
Which popular feminist do you consider yourself more hardworking than?

It’s giving joining the men in their age old tactic of trying to use shaming to shut down discussions.

FreeIgboho:


Name them. Who are the senatirs and Governors and heads of coporations?

Owen247:
some guys even droped out of school so that their younger sis can continue.infact i dnt want to say much.

cococandy:


Do you believe you have more personal responsibility for your own life than Ini Edo (for example).

What I see some ladies do on here when it comes this topic is due to limited understanding of the scope of this discussion.

“Oh there’s so called marginalization but how was I able to get educated and get a great job and support myself?” Nobody stopped me. So it must mean that those women who speak about this issue are lazy and irresponsible for their own lives. They want things handed to them but I’m different because I’m responsible for my own life.”

That’s how it comes across.
Hun you do not have better initiative or more personal accountability than the outspoken women who chose to talk about the issue. Some of them have achievements that we all know of at national and international levels. So at the very least, we know they are not lazy and waiting for someone to hand them things. Case in point chimamanda for example.

So who exactly is it that’s passionate about this topic that you would consider lazy and irresponsible for their own lives?

In fact I’m presenting this question to ladies who consider others as having victim mentality or as being whiners when this topic comes up.
Which popular feminist do you consider yourself more hardworking than?

It’s giving joining the men in their age old tactic of trying to use shaming to shut down discussions.

angelfallz:
There is no need going back and forth with you. I gave you a list names you claimed they're the exceptions. Now you want more names?
Guy go and Google it.
The fact is nothing is stopping any hard-working woman from achieving her dreams and goals in Nigeria, the same applies to a man.
Stop carry victim hood mentality. It would not take you anywhere.

cococandy:


They are part of Nigeria. So why should it be seen as sectional.

And it’s funny that we would want to section them out as if they are the only ones with issues. When for example if you’re igbo, you have no real place among the men of your household. Is that marginalization or not?

badman007:



Who & what do you think gave Yusuf the right to slap his wife?

FreeIgboho:


What question?