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LordReed:
I do not accept that energy is a god or that any other evidently impersonal natural forces are gods. That idea has been debunked ages ago, you are late to the party with this your god is energy idea.

Nope am the first person to connect energy with God even here on nairaland am the first Workch just opened up a thread about it while I was the one who opened his eyes to see it

I have the wisdom of God that why I easily understand science and God ways

Science is a different religion to Christianity if Christianity speaks like science you would have long ago accepted it

But we speak spiritual things just like science speaks physical things

If you look well you will see there is absolutely no difference

No thread ever linked energy with God first apart from me here you can check the date I linked it

In my other thread there are many things I invented which other Christians have never noticed and I explained it to them

That how as I speak to you I experience revelation on how to link things for you to see

I have many more things to say about evidence but what draws me back is you won't still believe it

Jesus said something about it if they refuse to believe Moses and Jesus that even you they will not believe you Bishopkingsley

And what Jesus said is acting out on you

Imagine I studied electrical engineering with second class upper and I am not a dull dude I know many professor who don't believe in God and I said one thing to one in class he marveled and I knew I touched him

The things I say are spirit and they are life

Bishopkingsley:
Nope am the first person to connect energy with God even here on nairaland am the first Workch just opened up a thread about it while I was the one who opened his eyes to see it

I have the wisdom of God that why I easily understand science and God ways

Science is a different religion to Christianity if Christianity speaks like science you would have long ago accepted it

But we speak spiritual things just like science speaks physical things

If you look well you will see there is absolutely no difference

No thread ever linked energy with God first apart from me here you can check the date I linked it

In my thread there are many things I invented which other Christians have never noticed and I explained it to them

That how as I speak to you I experience revelation on how to link things for you to see

I have many more things to say about evidence but what draws me back is you won't still believe it

Jesus said something about it if they refuse to believe Moses and Jesus that even me you they want believe Bishopkingsley

And what Jesus said is acting out on you

Imagine I studied electrical engineering with second class upper and not a dull dude I know many professor who don't believe in God and I said one thing to one in class he marveled and I knew I touched him

The things I say are spirit and they are life

If you study electrical engineering and you still cannot grasp basic thermodynamics then you are product of our failed educational system.

I don’t believe that though because you can go any length to defend your imaginary friend

Workch:
If you study electrical engineering and you still cannot grasp basic thermodynamics then you are product of our failed educational system.

I don’t believe that though because you can go any length to defend your imaginary friend

My beloved brother I don't want to chat with you because you don't have ability to withstand heat you tend to abuse people up and down can't you see other men respect people no matter their views

Until you learn how to respect people before you and I can communicate if you see me face to face you will probably piss because you can't even beat me face to face but you think you can abuse people because you are behind a keyboard

Bye please go your way until you learn how to respect people

Bishopkingsley:
My beloved brother I don't want to chat with you because you don't have ability to withstand heat you tend to abuse people up and down can't you see other men respect people no matter their views

Until you learn how to respect people before you and I can communicate if you see me face to face you will probably piss because you can't even beat me face to face but you think you can abuse people because you are behind a keyboard

Bye please go your way until you learn how to respect people

Get lost dude, stop lying to us.

How can you know electrical engineering and still don’t understand basic thermodynamics?

Uh? I studied biochemistry with a masters degree outside of Nigeria. I did basic thermodynamics in secondary school, did in my year one, then we took it down to the cellular level in form of bioenergetics in my finals, until tomorrow I still study cellular thermodynamics.

You expect that I listen to your jargons that you aren’t willing to drop and learn basic science? No

You also have to be willing to listen and not to force your unsubstantiated opinion on me irrespective

alphaNomega:
There are calculations that shows you why and how energy can neither be created nor destroyed. As a man of science, you were supposed to have learned this in school.

You need to revise your basic sciences especially physics and chemistry to understand why it is stated that energy cannot be created or destroyed at least with our current technology.

When you advance into quantum science, it is a different ball game as most of the rules of classical science do not apply. E.g. a material can have a unique properly like thermal/electrical conductivity but on a quantum scale, what you would observe would be different from what you expect.

The big bang theory is a theory out of many others that tries to answer the questions of the origins of our universe. A book written by men who think sickness is caused by demons would definitely not have the answer.

It is a work in progress, we are going to launch the James Webb Space Telescope by the end of this year if all goes according to plan. This space observatory would help us gather more data about what lies beyond our home planet.



A man of science that claims some sicknesses are caused by demons is very weird if you ask me. Science and fantasy are not the same



There is either one of two possible reasons why this is true

1. God does not exist

2. If it does exist, it is not perfect. A perfect god would know what laws to put in place that can stand the test of time. There is no point worshipping an imperfect entity. After all, god never changes, so why is it changing the law? Tomorrow god can bring a new law that states all first borns should murder their parents and caregivers when they reach the age of 25 to control population and make way for newer generations.

Science even says humans are made of energy

Since both heat and work can be measured and quantified, this is the same as saying that any change in the energy of a system must result in a corresponding change in the energy of the surroundings outside the system. In other words, energy cannot be created or destroyed there are no formula to back it up may be your not a science person this is what we call laws derived by critical thinking and experimental observations but how it works the formula can be shown

The total amount of energy and matter in the Universe remains constant, merely changing from one form to another. The First Law of Thermodynamics (Conservation)

alphaNomega:
There are calculations that shows you why and how energy can neither be created nor destroyed.

There is no formula that states why energy can not be created or destroyed
Because every derivative expression start with zero

No formula to explain what happened before zero
And no formula explain how it continues non stop

Formula examples
First law of motion (law of inertia):​ An object with constant velocity (or at rest, where v = 0) remains in this state unless an unbalanced external force acts to perturb it.
​Second law of motion:​ A net force (Fnet) acts to accelerate objects with mass (m). Acceleration (a) is the rate of change of velocity (v).
​Third law of motion:​ For every force in nature, there exists a force equal in magnitude and opposite in direction.
The law of conservation of energy may be written:

KE+PE+IE=EKE+PE+IE=E
where KE = ​kinetic energy​ = (1/2)m​v2​, PE = ​potential energy​ (equal to m​g​h


Now about the sickness

It is normal for one who have not experienced supernatural force to say this things I don't blame you

But I have experienced both God power and evil powers so I know what am saying

Ask yourself why man has not been able to Crack Bermuda triangle... Saying evil forces can not cause sickness is wrong
Even science identified evil spirits and good spirits by calling it external forces

alphaNomega:
If it does exist, it is not perfect. A perfect god would know what laws to put in place that can stand the test of time.

Those people refused to repent from their sin that why God used strong hand on them if I tell you their sinful acts you will plead to God to kill them twice

There was nothing they were not doing all manner of sin in fact you would probably not be alive if their desendant were allowed to live

Notice Jesus laws about love and forgiveness changed humanity t.. Blessed be his name

Bishopkingsley:
Nope am the first person to connect energy with God even here on nairaland am the first Workch just opened up a thread about it while I was the one who opened his eyes to see it

I have the wisdom of God that why I easily understand science and God ways

Science is a different religion to Christianity if Christianity speaks like science you would have long ago accepted it

But we speak spiritual things just like science speaks physical things

If you look well you will see there is absolutely no difference

No thread ever linked energy with God first apart from me here you can check the date I linked it

In my other thread there are many things I invented which other Christians have never noticed and I explained it to them

That how as I speak to you I experience revelation on how to link things for you to see

I have many more things to say about evidence but what draws me back is you won't still believe it

Jesus said something about it if they refuse to believe Moses and Jesus that even me you they want believe Bishopkingsley

And what Jesus said is acting out on you

Imagine I studied electrical engineering with second class upper and I am not a dull dude I know many professor who don't believe in God and I said one thing to one in class he marveled and I knew I touched him

The things I say are spirit and they are life

Dude you are not the first. Ask FOLYKAZE.

LordReed:
Dude you are not the first. Ask FOLYKAZE.

It up to you to receive the evidence I have given you

Bishopkingsley:
It up to you to receive the evidence I have given you

Dude you didn't give me evidence. You made a spurious conjecture that has long been debunked.

LordReed:
Dude you didn't give me evidence. You made a spurious conjecture that has long been debunked.

You said you wanted scientific evidence about God

And I gave you how science discovered an area of God

Stating that God is many things and that God is power and since power is energy

Therefore since science says
. Energy can not be created or destroyed

There for God exists

Because science shows that there is a force that is not created and that force can not be destroyed

They called that force energy


While Bible calls that force God


My brother the linkage is very clear for all to see


If science never found this force then Bible and I we lie but here science found it and science explain it exactly the way Bible explains it

Is this not marvelous in our eyes


Glory to God

Bishopkingsley:
You said you wanted scientific evidence about God

And I gave you how science discovered an area of God

Stating that God is many things and that God is power and since power is energy

Therefore since science says
. Energy can not be created or destroyed

There for God exists

Because science shows that there is a force that is not created and that force can not be destroyed

They called that force energy


While Bible calls that force God


My brother the linkage is very clear for all to see


If science never found this force then Bible and I we lie buy here science found it and science explain it exactly the way Bible explains it

Is this not marvelous in our eyes


Glory to God

The Bible doesn't say energy is god that is your conjecture.

LordReed:
The Bible doesn't say energy is god that is your conjecture.

The meaning of energy is my conjecture

The meaning is what counts not the name given to it....

Energy is a force that can not be created or destroyed

God is a living force that can not be created or destroyed

Bishopkingsley:
The meaning of energy is my conjecture

The meaning is what counts not the name given to it....

Energy is a force that can not be created or destroyed

God is a living force that can not be created or destroyed

Good that you accept it's your conjecture.

LordReed:
Good that you accept it's your conjecture.

You were not ready to believe God no matter what evidence you receive you can now see why God is a good God when he passes judgment on those who refuse to believe

Bishopkingsley:
You were not ready to believe God no matter what evidence you receive you can now see why God is a good God when he passes judgment on those who refuse to believe

You are not god, I asked that the god himself provide me evidence, not a half baked apologist attempting archaic conjectures in the name of scientific proof. When you can get your god to give me evidence directly lemme know.

alphaNomega:
Have you ever been tricked/deceived/defrauded?

How would you feel if your father knew about it and watched you fall victim and did not intervene to save you?

Adam wasn't deceived, duh.

LordReed:
Adam is not real neither is your god so I don't know what reality you refer to. These question we are discussing are merely academic except that you believe in them.

They are not mere if you talk about them daily.

LordReed:
No I am nailing your logic.

The meaning I showed has nothing to do with evilnor with religion. You should have given your own religious definition. If they accuse my family of witchcraft I would have the same attitude, witchcraft with supernatural powers doesn't exist.

The so called logic is hinged on God and belief in Him so let's put in the proper and complete perspectives.
A sorcerer has everything to do with evil and religion, it is either naivety or dishonesty to say otherwise. You still prove the point though, you know which witchcraft is referred to. You don't consider it terrible enough to stop your daughter from going into it, a huge multitude of billion others would cringe. In the other hand now, you are cringing about God watching Adam fail his test, He did not consider it the end of the world like you seem to.

LordReed:
It was you that said all have sinned, abi sinned doesn't mean spoilt again? If it doesn't then why do you need a salvation or harvest, why not take everything.

i refer to God's project of the human race, you seem to refer to the human race. The human race is spoilt whatever you and the Bible mean, God's project for the human race is in full gear and yielding quality harvest/result.

Bishopkingsley:
Science even says humans are made of energy

Since both heat and work can be measured and quantified, this is the same as saying that any change in the energy of a system must result in a corresponding change in the energy of the surroundings outside the system. In other words, energy cannot be created or destroyed there are no formula to back it up may be your not a science person this is what we call laws derived by critical thinking and experimental observations but how it works the formula can be shown

The total amount of energy and matter in the Universe remains constant, merely changing from one form to another. The First Law of Thermodynamics (Conservation)



There is no formula that states why energy can not be created or destroyed
Because every derivative expression start with zero

No formula to explain what happened before zero
And no formula explain how it continues non stop

Formula examples
First law of motion (law of inertia):​ An object with constant velocity (or at rest, where v = 0) remains in this state unless an unbalanced external force acts to perturb it.
​Second law of motion:​ A net force (Fnet) acts to accelerate objects with mass (m). Acceleration (a) is the rate of change of velocity (v).
​Third law of motion:​ For every force in nature, there exists a force equal in magnitude and opposite in direction.
The law of conservation of energy may be written:

KE+PE+IE=EKE+PE+IE=E
where KE = ​kinetic energy​ = (1/2)m​v2​, PE = ​potential energy​ (equal to m​g​h


Now about the sickness

It is normal for one who have not experienced supernatural force to say this things I don't blame you

But I have experienced both God power and evil powers so I know what am saying

Ask yourself why man has not been able to Crack Bermuda triangle... Saying evil forces can not cause sickness is wrong
Even science identified evil spirits and good spirits by calling it external forces




Those people refused to repent from their sin that why God used strong hand on them if I tell you their sinful acts you will plead to God to kill them twice

There was nothing they were not doing all manner of sin in fact you would probably not be alive if their desendant were allowed to live

Notice Jesus laws about love and forgiveness changed humanity t.. Blessed be his name

When was the last time you heard of an incident from Bermuda triangle? It was a hoax

There is no god. The Bible stories are mere stories, they hold no relevance.

Image123:
Adam wasn't deceived, duh.

He was deceived by Eve to eat the forbidden fruit. Eve was earlier tricked by the serpent according to your fairy tale.

All that while, your omnipresent god was watching for pleasure.

LordReed:
You are not god, I asked that the god himself provide me evidence, not a half baked apologist attempting archaic conjectures in the name of scientific proof. When you can get your god to give me evidence directly lemme know.

LordReed:
You are not god, I asked that the god himself provide me evidence, not a half baked apologist attempting archaic conjectures in the name of scientific proof. When you can get your god to give me evidence directly lemme know.

You asked me for scientific evidence I gave it to you I was the one who asked you what you want God to do for you to believe now you no longer want my beautiful evidence you want God own

To know energy you have to study it and possibly go to school because of it

You want God evidence come to church read the Bible then you will know

alphaNomega:
When was the last time you heard of an incident from Bermuda triangle? It was a hoax

There is no god. The Bible stories are mere stories, they hold no relevance.

The funny thing is that all those who said it A hoax have refused to go near the Bermuda triangle

You won't hear about it because every one now avoids the area like a plague

If you say it doesn't do what they say you are free to be the first to explore that area and I will gladly pay for your trip

Bishopkingsley:
The funny thing is that all those who said it A hoax have refused to go near the Bermuda triangle

You won't hear about it because every one now avoids the area like a plague

If you say it doesn't do what they say you are free to be the first to explore that area and I will gladly pay for you trip

I'm available for the trip

Bishopkingsley:
❤️❤️


The Bible states that God can be both present to a person in a manifest manner (Psalm 46:1, Isaiah 57:15) as well as being present in every situation in all of creation at any given time (Psalm 33:13-14).

Most Relevant Verses

1 Kings 8:27
Verse Concepts
“But will God indeed dwell on the earth? Behold, heaven and the highest heaven cannot contain You, how much less this house which I have built!

2 Chronicles 6:18
Verse Concepts
“But will God indeed dwell with mankind on the earth? Behold, heaven and the highest heaven cannot contain You; how much less this house which I have built.

2 Chronicles 2:6
Verse Concepts
But who is able to build a house for Him, for the heavens and the highest heavens cannot contain Him? So who am I, that I should build a house for Him, except to burn incense before Him?

Psalm 113:4-6
The Lord is high above all nations;
His glory is above the heavens.
Who is like the Lord our God,
Who is enthroned on high,
Who humbles Himself to behold
The things that are in heaven and in the earth?

Psalm 139:7-12
Where can I go from Your Spirit?
Or where can I flee from Your presence?
If I ascend to heaven, You are there;
If I make my bed in Sheol, behold, You are there.
If I take the wings of the dawn,
If I dwell in the remotest part of the sea,
read more.
Jeremiah 23:23-24
“Am I a God who is near,” declares the Lord,
“And not a God far off?
“Can a man hide himself in hiding places
So I do not see him?” declares the Lord.
“Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?” declares the Lord.

Numbers 14:21
Verse Concepts
but indeed, as I live, all the earth will be filled with the glory of the Lord.

Deuteronomy 4:39
Verse Concepts
Know therefore today, and take it to your heart, that the Lord, He is God in heaven above and on the earth below; there is no other.

Isaiah 6:3
Verse Concepts
And one called out to another and said,
“Holy, Holy, Holy, is the Lord of hosts,
The whole earth is full of His glory.”

Isaiah 66:1
Verse Concepts
Thus says the Lord,
“Heaven is My throne and the earth is My footstool.
Where then is a house you could build for Me?
And where is a place that I may rest?

Amos 9:2-3
“Though they dig into Sheol,
From there will My hand take them;
And though they ascend to heaven,
From there will I bring them down.
“Though they hide on the summit of Carmel,
I will search them out and take them from there;
And though they conceal themselves from My sight on the floor of the sea,
From there I will command the serpent and it will bite them.

Amos 9:2-3
“Though they dig into Sheol,
From there will My hand take them;
And though they ascend to heaven,
From there will I bring them down.
“Though they hide on the summit of Carmel,
I will search them out and take them from there;
And though they conceal themselves from My sight on the floor of the sea,
From there I will command the serpent and it will bite them.

Proverbs 15:3
Verse Concepts
The eyes of the Lord are in every place,
Watching the evil and the good.

2 Chronicles 16:9
Verse Concepts
For the eyes of the Lord move to and fro throughout the earth that He may strongly support those whose heart is completely His. You have acted foolishly in this. Indeed, from now on you will surely have wars.”

Zechariah 4:10
Verse Concepts
For who has despised the day of small things? But these seven will be glad when they see the plumb line in the hand of Zerubbabel—these are the eyes of the Lord which range to and fro throughout the earth.”

Acts 17:27-28
that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; for in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, ‘For we also are His children.’

Psalm 34:18
Verse Concepts
The Lord is near to the brokenhearted
And saves those who are crushed in spirit.

Isaiah 57:15
Verse Concepts
For thus says the high and exalted One
Who lives forever, whose name is Holy,
“I dwell on a high and holy place,
And also with the contrite and lowly of spirit
In order to revive the spirit of the lowly
And to revive the heart of the contrite.

Psalm 145:18
Verse Concepts
The Lord is near to all who call upon Him,
To all who call upon Him in truth.

Psalm 16:8
Verse Concepts
I have set the Lord continually before me;
Because He is at my right hand, I will not be shaken.

Isaiah 50:8
Verse Concepts
He who vindicates Me is near;
Who will contend with Me?
Let us stand up to each other;
Who has a case against Me?
Let him draw near to Me.

Exodus 33:15-16
Then he said to Him, “If Your presence does not go with us, do not lead us up from here. For how then can it be known that I have found favor in Your sight, I and Your people? Is it not by Your going with us, so that we, I and Your people, may be distinguished from all the other people who are upon the face of the earth?”

Psalm 14:5
Verse Concepts
There they are in great dread,
For God is with the righteous generation.

Isaiah 43:2
Verse Concepts
“When you pass through the waters, I will be with you;
And through the rivers, they will not overflow you.
When you walk through the fire, you will not be scorched,
Nor will the flame burn you.

Zephaniah 3:17
Verse Concepts
“The Lord your God is in your midst,
A victorious warrior.
He will exult over you with joy,
He will be quiet in His love,
He will rejoice over you with shouts of joy.

1 Corinthians 14:25
Verse Concepts
the secrets of his heart are disclosed; and so he will fall on his face and worship God, declaring that God is certainly among you.

Joshua 1:9
Verse Concepts
Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous! Do not tremble or be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.”

Genesis 28:15
Verse Concepts
Behold, I am with you and will keep you wherever you go, and will bring you back to this land; for I will not leave you until I have done what I have promised you.”

Genesis 31:3
Verse Concepts
Then the Lord said to Jacob, “Return to the land of your fathers and to your relatives, and I will be with you.”

Exodus 29:45
Verse Concepts
I will dwell among the sons of Israel and will be their God.

Leviticus 26:12
Verse Concepts
I will also walk among you and be your God, and you shall be My people.

Deuteronomy 20:1
Verse Concepts
“When you go out to battle against your enemies and see horses and chariots and people more numerous than you, do not be afraid of them; for the Lord your God, who brought you up from the land of Egypt, is with you.

Deuteronomy 31:8
Verse Concepts
The Lord is the one who goes ahead of you; He will be with you. He will not fail you or forsake you. Do not fear or be dismayed.”

Matthew 28:20
Verse Concepts
teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”

1 Corinthians 3:16
Verse Concepts
Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?

John 14:18
Verse Concepts
“I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.

Ephesians 2:22
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in whom you also are being built together into a dwelling of God in the Spirit.

1 John 3:24
Verse Concepts
The one who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. We know by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.

Psalm 113:3
Verse Concepts
From the rising of the sun to its setting
The name of the Lord is to be praised.

Psalm 72:19
Verse Concepts
And blessed be His glorious name forever;
And may the whole earth be filled with His glory.
Amen, and Amen.

Psalm 96:7-9
Ascribe to the Lord, O families of the peoples,
Ascribe to the Lord glory and strength.
Ascribe to the Lord the glory of His name;
Bring an offering and come into His courts.
Worship the Lord in holy attire;
Tremble before Him, all the earth.

Malachi 1:11
Verse Concepts
For from the rising of the sun even to its setting, My name will be great among the nations, and in every place incense is going to be offered to My name, and a grain offering that is pure; for My name will be great among the nations,” says the Lord of hosts.

Revelation 5:13
Verse Concepts
And every created thing which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all things in them, I heard saying,“To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be blessing and honor and glory and dominion forever and ever.”

The flying spaghetti monster is the true God and any other God are smaller gods.

He said this in his book, Ravioli 4:1

alphaNomega:
I'm available for the trip

Send the cost of the trip and the company phone number involve that will lead you to the location are you going by ship or plane

Pastafari:
The flying spaghetti monster is the true God and any other God are smaller gods.

He said this in his book, Ravioli 4:1

Beautiful is the Flying Spaghetti monster God

Bishopkingsley:
Beautiful is the Flying Spaghetti monster God

Ramen.
May his noodly appendages bless you and provide meatballs forever and ever.

alphaNomega:
He was deceived by Eve to eat the forbidden fruit. Eve was earlier tricked by the serpent according to your fairy tale.

All that while, your omnipresent god was watching for pleasure.

You are exhibiting too much ignorance for one person. Study before talking.

Pastafari:
Ramen.
May his noodly appendages bless you and provide meatballs forever and ever.

You did not answer the question which shows you are not really sure of who the flying spaghetti monster is

Bishopkingsley:
You asked me for scientific evidence I gave it to you I was the one who asked you what you want God to do for you to believe now you no longer want my beautiful evidence you want God own

To know energy you have to study it and possibly go to school because of it

You want God evidence come to church read the Bible then you will know

I said I want god to present me evidence, you said you had scientific evidence and I said for you to go ahead. It was you who made the offwer I didn't you for it.

Image123:
i refer to God's project of the human race, you seem to refer to the human race. The human race is spoilt whatever you and the Bible mean, God's project for the human race is in full gear and yielding quality harvest/result.

How many percent of all the people who have been alive so far do you think will be harvested? Can you hazard a guess?

Image123:
The so called logic is hinged on God and belief in Him so let's put in the proper and complete perspectives.
A sorcerer has everything to do with evil and religion, it is either naivety or dishonesty to say otherwise. You still prove the point though, you know which witchcraft is referred to. You don't consider it terrible enough to stop your daughter from going into it, a huge multitude of billion others would cringe. In the other hand now, you are cringing about God watching Adam fail his test, He did not consider it the end of the world like you seem to.

You said a wizard and I gave you the definition you asked me to go find. Wizard has multiple means so to say it is naivety or dishonesty to point it out can only be some sort of projection. Again I ask you what is this evil since I don't believe in such things, can you detail what evil this sorcerer you want to marry to my daughter does.