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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 6:17pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:


ND give them the Champions league..
Something Pep won't attempt in his life time grin grin
Like he gave Mainz
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:19pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:


ND give them the Champions league..
Something Pep won't attempt in his life time grin grin

Pep won the Sextuple as a rookie!

He’s a better manager than Klopp.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 6:21pm On Oct 29, 2021
donstan18:

How many year has Klopp managed Liverpool and how many trophies?
I see anfie.ldfan has answered you
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 6:22pm On Oct 29, 2021
Devvy4:



I Dey pray make pep fraudiola sign for a team that can’t give him €200m+ every year, I wan check something grin grin
He's done that at barca and Bayern.
Make Zidane come do him own grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 6:23pm On Oct 29, 2021
BlueAngel444:
you will see how improved united midfield will be, and how it will help the defense
I dey wait then
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 6:24pm On Oct 29, 2021
donstan18:

Are these all you got?

Why ask what you couldn’t counter?

I was under the impression you would be truthful...
If I want to break it down like Ramdeuter, I could prove Lampard doesn't have better stats than Gerrard cause Gerrard played lesser matches.. grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 6:25pm On Oct 29, 2021
donstan18:

He had Karius as a keeper against Zidane last season?
he won one and drew one.
It happens
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 6:25pm On Oct 29, 2021
donstan18:

Like he gave Mainz

He gave them something...
First top flight promotion on no budget...Peep the clause, no budget...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 6:25pm On Oct 29, 2021
Jodera:
he won one and drew one.
It happens
Klopp won how many?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 6:26pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:


I was under the impression you would be truthful...
If I want to break it down like Ramdeuter, I could prove Lampard doesn't have better stats than Gerrard cause Gerrard played lesser matches.. grin grin
Lampard>>
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 6:27pm On Oct 29, 2021
raumdeuter:


Bayern wasn't weak yet Stuttgart and Wolfsburg are winning the league. How come you are not hailing Wolfsburg and Stuttgart coaches for winning vs strong Bayern
Dortmund was not stripped when they finished 25points behind Bayern
Stuttgart a and Wolfsburg winning is anomaly
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 6:29pm On Oct 29, 2021
Illimitable:


Pep won the Sextuple as a rookie!

He’s a better manager than Klopp.
Klopp gave Mainz there first Bundlesliga appearance with no money...

Call me when Guardiola wins the champ league without Messi..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 6:30pm On Oct 29, 2021
donstan18:

Lampard>>

But stats which you love so much disagree with you..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 6:32pm On Oct 29, 2021
raumdeuter:


If this is it, then Zidane has beaten many teams to win the CL 3 times

Zidane beat Liverpool Atletico and Juventus to win in the finals
That's why I said he's a great coach na
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 6:33pm On Oct 29, 2021
Devvy4:



Did Zidane not win back2back2back Ucl as a rookie
I didn't write controversial in my post lipsrsealed
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 6:34pm On Oct 29, 2021
donstan18:

Klopp won how many?
None yet.
Make Zidane just come man u na cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 6:35pm On Oct 29, 2021
Jodera:
I didn't write controversial in my post lipsrsealed

Them think say we go gree them bobo us...We no gree..

Simple question I asked... Them go gree make Karius man their post from free for just 10 matches this season... Nobody don answer me.. grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 6:39pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:


Them think say we go gree them bobo us...We no gree..

Simple question I asked... Them go gree make Karius man their post from free for just 10 matches this season... Nobody don answer me.. grin grin
grin grin grin

Wickedness grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlueMann: 6:40pm On Oct 29, 2021
Man United tomorrow

#OleIn
#ElSackico

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by donstan18: 6:45pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:


But stats which you love so much disagree with you..
Goals and assists.

Lampard >>>
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:46pm On Oct 29, 2021
KingAlabi:

Brother make I try that side first. cheesy grin
cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:50pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:

Klopp gave Mainz there first Bundlesliga appearance with no money...

Call me when Guardiola wins the champ league without Messi..

Why are you comparing promotion from the 2nd division to winning the CL?

Look at some of the decisions Pep had to make while delivering the sextuple? He got rid of Ronaldinho, Deco, Zambrotta, etc.

These are huge decisions Klopp wouldn’t have made in Pep’s shoes. Yes, he had Messi but plenty of other managers have had Messi without delivering.

The fact that you are actually comparing a mere promotion to winning the CL already tells me you don’t even believe the two of them are at the same level.

Pep is light years ahead of Klopp, so is Zidane.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by thorrvik55(m): 6:54pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:


Kept for future purposes...

Lampard better than Xavi!!
Delusion.. grin grin

Stats back his opinion of Lampard being better than Xavi up, so what's the fuss there?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 6:59pm On Oct 29, 2021
Illimitable:


Why are you comparing promotion from the 2nd division to winning the CL?

Look at some of the decisions Pep had to make while delivering the sextuple? He got rid of Ronaldinho, Deco, Zambrotta, etc.

These are huge decisions Klopp wouldn’t have made in Pep’s shoes. Yes, he had Messi but plenty of other managers have had Messi without delivering.

The fact that you are actually comparing a mere promotion to winning the CL already tells me you don’t even believe the two of them are at the same level.

Pep is light years ahead of Klopp, so is Zidane.

A team that could afford to get rid of the caliber of players you mentioned would perform wonders with a good coach which Pep is...

Mainz didn't just get promoted to the Bundlesliga, he did it with no money.. Can't you understand this..The club was broke...He did it because the players believed in him... Because he could afford to go toe to toe tactically with teams that had better budgets..
Since then, Pep hasn't won the Champions league..You know how much he has spent..

What did he do, went to teams that were coming off the backs of varying degrees of success and just gave them more of the same while spending more than their previous coaches .
Klopp.. Liverpool title in 30 years..
Champions league title since 2005..

Two back to back Bundlesliga titles with Dortmund who won their last Bundlesliga in 2001/02

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 7:01pm On Oct 29, 2021
thorrvik55:


Stats back his opinion of Lampard being better than Xavi up, so what's the fuss there?

Did I say otherwise?? undecided undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AnfieldFan: 7:02pm On Oct 29, 2021
Jodera:
grin grin grin

Wickedness grin

No be me do am naaaa grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by liveLongNprospa(m): 7:21pm On Oct 29, 2021
Jodera:
Simple, cos the coaches that took over wasn't world class coaches!

I didn't watch matches last season(since no Ronaldo. I stopped watching Madrid match post Ronaldo, tho I read news on them)
But the matches under Zidane, with Ronaldo, I won't doubt he's good (esp the double where he used mostly 2nd 11 in league), but klopp have shown over time that he's better and more tactical than him. His stints at Dortmund and Liverpool says so

So if you didn't watch Madrid post Ronaldo, what are you basing your arguments on?? Sentiment?
Like I said you cannot talk about tactics when Zidane has shown tactical masterclass beyond what Pep has done.

Okay out Gengen pressing, what other game plan does klopp employ That will successfully win him trophies?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:23pm On Oct 29, 2021
AnfieldFan:


A team that could afford to get rid of the caliber of players you mentioned would perform wonders with a good coach which Pep is...

Mainz didn't just get promoted to the Bundlesliga, he did it with no money.. Can't you understand this..The club was broke...He did it because the players believed in him... Because he could afford to go toe to toe tactically with teams that had better budgets..
Since then, Pep hasn't won the Champions league..You know how much he has spent..

What did he do, went to teams that were coming off the backs of varying degrees of success and just gave them more of the same while spending more than their previous coaches .
Klopp.. Liverpool title in 30 years..
Champions league title since 2005..

Two back to back Bundlesliga titles with Dortmund who won their last Bundlesliga in 2001/02

By this metric, Roy Keane is a better manager than Klopp.

Roy Keane took Sunderland from 2nd bottom in the championship to winning the championship title in the same season. Surely, that’s a bigger feat than what Klopp achieved at Mainz.

Secondly, a team that could afford to get rid of such talents aren’t easy teams to manage. The greater the talents, the more expectations. Ole was doing fine with his mediocrity until he signed Sancho, Varane and Ronaldo.

Pep took one of the most difficult jobs in the world in 2008. It could have ended like Lampard for him but dude went on to win every trophy he competed for. Messi or no Messi, that’s a laudable achievement.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by liveLongNprospa(m): 7:24pm On Oct 29, 2021
Jodera:
While this is true, but as long as there is obvious improvements one way or the other, you won't be sacked. Klopp can definitely do that.

If it's to manage group of superstars, I believe klopp can do such. He has the aura and the charisma for that. Klopp can, Pep can .
But to tell Cr7 to sit out games, I doubt that.
You say?
Let Ancellotti not win something first then you'll know if the fans keh about progress ni. The only manager that I know in recent memory was trophy-less for the season and yet Madrid fans didn't care was Zidane last season.. Watch his last two years in Madrid my guy.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Roland17(m): 7:31pm On Oct 29, 2021
I will never support or be indifferent in any game that involves the Spuds (shiit) irrespective of the opponent angry angry

For this reason, I will be supporting Man U against Spuds. More importantly, a victory assures me that Ole remains coach.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 7:34pm On Oct 29, 2021
Roland17:
I will never support or be indifferent in any game that involves the Spuds (shiit) irrespective of the opponent angry angry

For this reason, I will be supporting Man U against Spuds. More importantly, a victory assures me that Ole remains coach.
We all know that game has a draw written all over it. I say draw only because Tottenham are home and just lost a game to West Ham. The game also has a Harry Kane goal written all over it. Ole's job is not going to be determined by this game or against MCFC. He will have to have a bad stretch of games combined with those games to lose it. Of course if he loses heavily to Tottenham he will be fired.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 7:38pm On Oct 29, 2021
Illimitable:


By this metric, Roy Keane is a better manager than Klopp.

Roy Keane took Sunderland from 2nd bottom in the championship to winning the championship title in the same season. Surely, that’s a bigger feat than what Klopp achieved at Mainz.

Secondly, a team that could afford to get rid of such talents aren’t easy teams to manage. The greater the talents, the more expectations. Ole was doing fine with his mediocrity until he signed Sancho, Varane and Ronaldo.

Pep took one of the most difficult jobs in the world in 2008. It could have ended like Lampard for him but dude went on to win every trophy he competed for. Messi or no Messi, that’s a laudable achievement.
I agree with your take. Besides, Guardiola started his career in the 4th division of Spanish football.

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