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Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:39am On Nov 25, 2021
sonmvayina:

...Somebody who said it was not necessary to obey God's commandments. ...

He did not say that. Your great hatred and jealousy and envy for him prevented you from understanding him.

Actually, you did understand him but by reason of your hatred and anger for him, you therefore took occasion to use his words against him and defame him.
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(m): 10:39am On Nov 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


IDEOLOGY just as you too are blindly holding to the ideology that Jesus never existed!

So present the evidence by pointing to the group of people practicing what your God says just as i am presenting Jehovah's Witnesses! smiley

There is no evidence that he did....no foot print. Nothing. Isn't that pretty strange "for a son of god"..
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:48am On Nov 25, 2021
sonmvayina:

There is no evidence that he did....no foot print. Nothing. Isn't that pretty strange "for a son of god"..

Well it's not Romans that brought millions of people from different races throughout the earth under the same umbrella to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers just as it was prophesied by two ancient prophets of God! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1&3

It's what was written about Jesus that makes this possible, so there is substantial evidence that such a person truly existed. You can only disprove his existence if you can present any other group of people practicing something similar to what Jesus' true disciples (Jehovah's Witnesses) are doing today. In the absence of that i'll implore you to go back and do your homework. Because there has never been a fictional character so lofty that thousands of years after the fabrication is still affecting the lives of people for good! wink
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(m): 11:27am On Nov 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Well it's not Romans that brought millions of people from different races throughout the earth under the same umbrella to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers just as it was prophesied by two ancient prophets of God! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1&3

It's what was written about Jesus that makes this possible, so there is substantial evidence that such a person truly existed. You can only disprove his existence if you can present any other group of people practicing something similar to what Jesus' true disciples (Jehovah's Witnesses) are doing today. In the absence of that i'll implore you to go back and do your homework. Because there has never been a fictional character so lofty that thousands of years after the fabrication is still affecting the lives of people for good! wink

The greatest evil is deception..

Are you not considering the fact that you are in the wrong group no matter what they paint for you. Their ideology goes against God laws. Whether you guys are peaceful or loving the foundation is a lie. You are worshipping an idol. That is what I am pointing out to you. Come out of it. You don't need to be in a group to be a good person and do what God commanded of you...
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(m): 11:42am On Nov 25, 2021
See MaxInDHouse, the Messiah is not coming to be a sin sacrifice to God. First of all, God detest human sacrifice, he calls it an abomination. That is one of the reason he drove out the inhabitants of Canaan. He warned the isrealites not to do for him what they did for their God. The idea of burning children or sacrificing children is not from the real God. Who is also the creator of all, secondly he has already provided a solution to the problem of sin in the Torah.

According to the jews the Messiah or anointed is a man who is anointed with a special oil that is normally kept in the ark of the covenant. The Messiah is a king. He rules his people and protect his people from their enemies something buhari has failed to do.

He will be a good judge and he will teach people to worship the one God the creator. He is not going to be a mediator or go between.

God advises us to come to him directly. Do not have any other God before me. If Jesus was with God in heaven he would have known this. For him to say "no one comes to the father but by me "...makes him a lier and fraud. Not that he said it..it is the writers that put such in his mouth. Because they are trying to deceive you and make you break God commandments...

So it is not about belonging to a peaceful group...

It is about keeping the Torah of the Creator.
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(m): 11:50am On Nov 25, 2021
So what is the benefit of belonging to a peaceful group that worships an idol?

Because that is exactly what you have been defending. That is all I have been saying from the top of my voice.

It is even better to be a warrior and worship the creator or real God. Than to be in a peaceful group that worships an idol...

The only way to worship the creator is to obey his commandments. He never asked any one to knock on people's door and invite them to kingdom halls. The kingdom is within each and every one of us. We are all made in his image and likeness. All we need to do is obey his Torah and let in peace.....

Thank you.
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(m): 11:57am On Nov 25, 2021
There is no second coming arrangement. The only way the Messiah will be recognized is if he does those things in the first attempt. That is end wars and oppression, bring peace, make God laws known, build the temple, resumethe animal sacrifice and ensure justice for all....

Not by miracles or rising from the dead.

I could write a story about a man and say he is the Messiah and say he would come again to fulfill those things...does it makes my story true...No,

But that is what those faceless authors did and they have held the world in bandage..

Come out of it...it is all a lie..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xD19izUY3Y
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(m): 11:58am On Nov 25, 2021
Take your time to watch and make notes..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0aAdoHXBgc
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:06pm On Nov 25, 2021
God is working!
So show me the WORKS of your God, i have shown you the WORKS of my own God in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Your arguments amount to nothing if you can't present the ORGANIZED worshipers of your God because it simply means you have no God! smiley
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(m): 12:17pm On Nov 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
God is working!
So show me the WORKS of your God, i have shown you the WORKS of my own God in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Your arguments amount to nothing if you can't present the ORGANIZED worshipers of your God because it simply means you have no God! smiley

It is not about being in a peaceful group that worships an idol..

Being in a peaceful group that worships an idol is not what our creator wants...

He wants people that will obey his Torah.
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(m): 12:20pm On Nov 25, 2021
Which do you think is better

1. Being in a peaceful group that worships an idol

2. Being by yourself and obey God's (the creators ) commandments..

No beating about the bush.

I choose number 2.
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:53pm On Nov 25, 2021
sonmvayina:

Which do you think is better
1. Being in a peaceful group that worships an idol
2. Being by yourself and obey God's (the creators ) commandments..
No beating about the bush.
I choose number 2.

Each person will worship his own God but only true worshipers will worship the true God where PEACE reign! Isaiah 2:2-4

So keep worshiping your God with your understanding of the Torah while i worship my own God with the understanding of the scriptures in complete! smiley
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(m): 3:03pm On Nov 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Each person will worship his own God but only true worshipers will worship the true God where PEACE reign! Isaiah 2:2-4

So keep worshiping your God with your understanding of the Torah while i worship my own God with the understanding of the scriptures in complete! smiley

Which do you choose ?

This is not what I asked ...
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:14pm On Nov 25, 2021
sonmvayina:

Which do you choose ?
This is not what I asked ...

You can't have PEACE without God! wink

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Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(m): 7:23pm On Nov 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


You can't have PEACE without God! wink

I believe you whole heartedly...

But what happens when you worship the wrong God..?just like you do a false God (jesus)...and wallow in ignorance..

So which of the two do you pick ?
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:41pm On Nov 25, 2021
sonmvayina:

I believe you whole heartedly...
But what happens when you worship the wrong God..?just like you do a false God (jesus)...and wallow in ignorance..
So which of the two do you pick ?

The one and only way to be certain that you're worshiping the true God is BENEFITS that others can't have. In the absence of benefits then you have nothing to do with God! smiley
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(m): 10:22pm On Nov 25, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


The one and only way to be certain that you're worshiping the true God is BENEFITS that others can't have. In the absence of benefits then you have nothing to do with God! smiley

What can you say about those that worship Ayerala...they are peaceful and just go about their stuff.

What do you think they are doing wrong..?
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:10am On Nov 26, 2021
sonmvayina:

What can you say about those that worship Ayerala...they are peaceful and just go about their stuff. What do you think they are doing wrong..?
Ó mà ṣeo?
What a pity?
You don't even know the import of PEACE!

OK let me enlighten you:

When you see people trusting weapons to prevent their fellowman from hurting them, then know that there's no PEACE in such place because peace means no one threatens anyone to do what you've all agreed upon, but when you have to put your trust in arms to prevent you neighbour from hurting you then there's no peace. WHY? both of you are scared of each other! undecided
Do this people you're talking about have such trust that they won't have to rely on weapons or charms to feel safe in their gatherings?
If NO is the answer then there's no peace! smiley
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MightySparrow: 9:21am On Nov 26, 2021
AntiChristian:


Since you keep mentioning me. I will have to give a response! You keep making statements backed by ignorance and arrogance. Who is a man with no calling? Just because you can't believe in him does not mean you are right on him!




If i post some verses here you will start bringing a defense for Yahweh but you won't entertain any excuse when it comes to Muhammad!

Heinous Crimes!

Numbers
Chapter 31
7-12

7 And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males. 8 And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword. 9 And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods. 10 And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles, with fire. 11 And they took all the spoil, and all the prey, both of men and of beasts. 12 And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and unto the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the camp at the plains of Moab, which are by Jordan near Jericho.

I wonder what you have to say about this? Using your own criteria against you this makes your God a false violent God. So once again you should not throw stones if you live in a glass house.

17-18
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves

What do you have to say to this? This is your God commanding Moses to kill the women and CHILDREN and to keep the virgins alive.

So now you can see that Yahweh commanded Moses to kill many, Plunder, burn and even take little girls for themselves!

Yahweh is one with Jesus. (John 10:30 I and the Father are one)

So Jesus was also a co-conspirator according to the Bible.

We need not look for the reason for each of the acts! If you agree with your assertion of heinous crimes then you just have to agree to this except if you were are simply a hypocritical Christian suffering from acute prejudice and Islamophobia.

MUHAMMAD WAS ACCUSED OF STEALING


{ وَمَا كَانَ لِنَبِيٍّ أَنْ يَغُلَّ وَمَن يَغْلُلْ يَأْتِ بِمَا غَلَّ يَوْمَ ٱلْقِيَامَةِ ثُمَّ تُوَفَّىٰ كُلُّ نَفْسٍ مَّا كَسَبَتْ وَهُمْ لاَ يُظْلَمُونَ }
When some red velvet cloth went missing on the Day of Badr and some people began to say, ‘Perhaps the Prophet took it’, the following was revealed: It is not for a prophet to be fraudulent (an yaghulla, a variant reading has the passive an yughalla, meaning to attribute ghulūl, ‘fraud’, to him), to be treacherous with regard to the spoils, so do not presume this of him; whoever defrauds shall bring what he has defrauded on the Day of Resurrection, carrying it around his neck; then every soul, the fraudulent and the otherwise, shall be paid in full, the requital of, what it has earned, [what] it has done, and they shall not be wronged, a single thing.

sura 3:161

THE TASFIR EXPOSED YOUR PROPHET READ GOOD.....
Allah was giving the sura to claim Muhammed never stole but THE PUZZLE CONTINUED.... ALLAH did not reveal the person that stole the RED VELVET.....

WHO CAN HELL SOLVE THE PUZZLE... who stole the cloth??
https://www.buythetruthnot.com.ng/2018/11/muhammad-was-accused-of-stealing.html?m=1




Leave Christians alone or else.........
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by AntiChristian: 9:50am On Nov 26, 2021
MightySparrow:

MUHAMMAD WAS ACCUSED OF STEALING


{ وَمَا كَانَ لِنَبِيٍّ أَنْ يَغُلَّ وَمَن يَغْلُلْ يَأْتِ بِمَا غَلَّ يَوْمَ ٱلْقِيَامَةِ ثُمَّ تُوَفَّىٰ كُلُّ نَفْسٍ مَّا كَسَبَتْ وَهُمْ لاَ يُظْلَمُونَ }
When some red velvet cloth went missing on the Day of Badr and some people began to say, ‘Perhaps the Prophet took it’, the following was revealed: It is not for a prophet to be fraudulent (an yaghulla, a variant reading has the passive an yughalla, meaning to attribute ghulūl, ‘fraud’, to him), to be treacherous with regard to the spoils, so do not presume this of him; whoever defrauds shall bring what he has defrauded on the Day of Resurrection, carrying it around his neck; then every soul, the fraudulent and the otherwise, shall be paid in full, the requital of, what it has earned, [what] it has done, and they shall not be wronged, a single thing.

sura 3:161

THE TASFIR EXPOSED YOUR PROPHET READ GOOD.....
Allah was giving the sura to claim Muhammed never stole but THE PUZZLE CONTINUED.... ALLAH did not reveal the person that stole the RED VELVET.....

WHO CAN HELL SOLVE THE PUZZLE... who stole the cloth??
https://www.buythetruthnot.com.ng/2018/11/muhammad-was-accused-of-stealing.html?m=1

Leave Christians alone or else.........


He was accused of many things which he did not do! Jesus too was called mad by his family, that does not mean he was mad!

Shebi your Bible say don't judge? So Let God Judge who stole from the verse you quoted! You just keep showing your ignorance and arrogance here!

I no hold Christians na! Which one be leave them alone?
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MightySparrow: 11:05am On Nov 26, 2021
AntiChristian:


He was accused of many things which he did not do! Jesus too was called mad by his family, that does not mean he was mad!

Shebi your Bible say don't judge? So Let God Judge who stole from the verse you quoted! You just keep showing your ignorance and arrogance here!

I no hold Christians na! Which one be leave them alone?


So , your Qur'an makes you a judge in Christian matters, shebi?



Your Prophet release ayat to exonerate himself, as a prophet, could not catch the thief cheesygrin
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(m): 11:16am On Nov 26, 2021
So MaxInDHouse, what is the purpose of the messiah as contained in the old testament. So we can address the one Jesus fulfilled and the ones he did not..
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:49pm On Nov 26, 2021
sonmvayina:

So MaxInDHouse, what is the purpose of the messiah as contained in the old testament. So we can address the one Jesus fulfilled and the ones he did not..

According to Daniel 2:44
The Messiah will rule with whole earth and his rulership will not be passed unto any other person.
For justice to take it's full course there must be a race that will welcome this great King and advertise his kingdom globally, that's why God chose the nation of Israel. Isaiah 2:3
First of all, he will not rule according to man's thinking but Godly principle so people need to be aware of what this coming king will tolerate and what he will not condone that's why there must be a global PREACHING and TEACHING of the coming Kingdom.
So Jesus' first assignment is the train his co-rulers how to go and fetch for their subjects out there. Unlike the human government that will be imposed on people without a chance to defend themselves God's government will allow each person to air his or her opinion about the standard God is bringing.
All those who accept the standard will be pardoned for their past errors {Isaiah 33:24} as they're willing to comply with God's government which ordinarily doesn't go down well with man's thoughts! Isaiah 55:8-9

This is where unbelieving Jews lost out in the setting!

The Messiah is not our biological father but now he wants to become our foster father as our biological father (Adam) who brought us into this condition is now dead forever. So the Messiah must pay for the children he's about to redeem from sin and death with his own blood. That's why the scriptures say the Messiah will be cut off from among the living! Daniel 9:26

Every other prophecy about his birth by a virgin {Isaiah 7:14} will become a great counselor, mighty God everlasting father and Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} will be counted among the sinners {Isaiah 53:12} they will cast lots for his clothing {Psalms 22:18} will die but his flesh will not rotten in the grave {Psalms 16:10} they will give him vinegar {Psalms 69:21} all these Jesus fulfilled that's why he could say that his earthly assignment as a human has finished! John 19:30

The Jews are desperate to falsify all of these but that's no problem, today what Jesus worked and pray for is hear today. John 17:20-23
We now have a global family of peace loving worshipers awaiting his arrival! Isaiah 2:2-4
smiley

Even if the Romans fabricated Jesus' story are they also the ones who gathered people from all races and taught them never to raise weapons against their fellowman just as it's written in the prophecies? Micah 4:1-3

May you have PEACE! smiley
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by sonmvayina(m): 1:41pm On Nov 26, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


According to Daniel 2:44
The Messiah will rule with whole earth and his rulership will not be passed unto any other person.
For justice to take it's full course there must be a race that will welcome this great King and advertise his kingdom globally, that's why God chose the nation of Israel. Isaiah 2:3
First of all, he will not rule according to man's thinking but Godly principle so people need to be aware of what this coming king will tolerate and what he will not condone that's why there must be a global PREACHING and TEACHING of the coming Kingdom.
So Jesus' first assignment is the train his co-rulers how to go and fetch for their subjects out there. Unlike the human government that will be imposed on people without a chance to defend themselves God's government will allow each person to air his or her opinion about the standard God is bringing.
All those who accept the standard will be pardoned for their past errors {Isaiah 33:24} as they're willing to comply with God's government which ordinarily doesn't go down well with man's thoughts! Isaiah 55:8-9

This is where unbelieving Jews lost out in the setting!

The Messiah is not our biological father but now he wants to become our foster father as our biological father (Adam) who brought us into this condition is now dead forever. So the Messiah must pay for the children he's about to redeem from sin and death with his own blood. That's why the scriptures say the Messiah will be cut off from among the living! Daniel 9:26

Every other prophecy about his birth by a virgin {Isaiah 7:14} will become a great counselor, mighty God everlasting father and Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} will be counted among the sinners {Isaiah 53:12} they will cast lots for his clothing {Psalms 22:18} will die but his flesh will not rotten in the grave {Psalms 16:10} they will give him vinegar {Psalms 69:21} all these Jesus fulfilled that's why he could say that his earthly assignment as a human has finished! John 19:30

The Jews are desperate to falsify all of these but that's no problem, today what Jesus worked and pray for is hear today. John 17:20-23
We now have a global family of peace loving worshipers awaiting his arrival! Isaiah 2:2-4
smiley

Even if the Romans fabricated Jesus' story are they also the ones who gathered people from all races and taught them never to raise weapons against their fellowman just as it's written in the prophecies? Micah 4:1-3

May you have PEACE! smiley

All these are what your organization has brain washed you with. I want quotes from the Jewish prophet about the messiah and what he will accomplish .
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:31pm On Nov 26, 2021
sonmvayina:


All these are what your organization has brain washed you with. I want quotes from the Jewish prophet about the messiah and what he will accomplish .

Every other prophecy about his birth by a virgin {Isaiah 7:14} will become a great counselor, mighty God everlasting father and Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} will be counted among the sinners {Isaiah 53:12} they will cast lots for his clothing {Psalms 22:18} will die but his flesh will not rotten in the grave {Psalms 16:10} they will give him vinegar {Psalms 69:21} all these Jesus fulfilled that's why he could say that his earthly assignment!

So all the above were fabricated and added to what Jewish prophets penned down, shey? cheesy

Just forget about Jesus and continue your religion anyhow you wish because there's no amount of argument that can change what has been written! smiley
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by AntiChristian: 5:24am On Nov 28, 2021
MightySparrow:



So , your Qur'an makes you a judge in Christian matters, shebi?



Your Prophet release ayat to exonerate himself, as a prophet, could not catch the thief cheesygrin

Shebi your Jesus sent his disciple to take someone's donkey without prior permission just to fulfill a prophecy?

Why wasn't he called a thief? Though shall not covet your neighbors property Abi wetin be that commandment?

It was not proven that Muhammad stole anything but Jesus matter is clear!
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:31am On Nov 28, 2021
AntiChristian:

Shebi your Jesus sent his disciple to take someone's donkey without prior permission just to fulfill a prophecy?
Why wasn't he called a thief? Though shall not covet your neighbors property Abi wetin be that commandment?
It was not proven that Muhammad stole anything but Jesus matter is clear!

Jesus' promise:

Then Peter said in reply: “Look! We have left all things and followed you; what, then, will there be for us?” Matthew 19:27

Jesus said: “Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life. Mark 10:29-30

The donkey belongs to one of Jesus' disciples that Peter and the others don't know. Remember that Jesus' disciples stopped one of Jesus' disciples who was doing Jesus' work simply because they don't know him {Luke 9:49-50} and Jesus has promised them that they will have brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers and many other things if only they put God's Kingdom interest first in their lives {Matthew 6:33} so Jesus used the donkey or house of any of his spiritual family! Matthew 12:46-50

He taught them and practicalize it for them to see the result of what he taught them.
I don't know people in most of the countries of the world but due to being one of Jesus' true disciples if i found myself in any country on this planet a house awaits me there. WHY?
Because i am one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

That's exactly what Jesus did that day. Nobody owns anything in this world, we are all borrowers and at death everything will become another person's property. That's why Jesus taught his followers to share whatever they had in common as brothers and sisters of the house of FAITH!
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MightySparrow: 7:27am On Nov 28, 2021
AntiChristian:


Shebi your Jesus sent his disciple to take someone's donkey without prior permission just to fulfill a prophecy?

Why wasn't he called a thief? Though shall not covet your neighbors property Abi wetin be that commandment?

It was not proven that Muhammad stole anything but Jesus matter is clear!


He said, if any man asked, tell him, the Lord has need of it.
Thereafter, Jesus was not accused, nor was said he continued to use the donkey.


In case of mohammed, be was accused by Muslims, his followers! Till today, the velvet underwear is still missing.
The man who got his in - law drunk to have his approval in marriage is not, cannot be a leader of mankind.


Antichristian! Antichristian!! Antichristian!!!!
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by AntiChristian: 1:06pm On Nov 29, 2021
MightySparrow:


He said, if any man asked, tell him, the Lord has need of it.
Thereafter, Jesus was not accused, nor was said he continued to use the donkey.

If we are to analyse this Jesus' action in court today, Jesus's disciple would be charged for:

1. Invasion of privacy.
2. Forceful Entry
3. Unauthorised possession of other's property amongst others!

While Jesus himself would be an accomplice to all those charges!

MightySparrow MightySparrow MightySparrow can you do something like this today?


In case of mohammed, be was accused by Muslims, his followers! Till today, the velvet underwear is still missing.
The man who got his in - law drunk to have his approval in marriage is not, cannot be a leader of mankind.

Antichristian! Antichristian!! Antichristian!!!!

If he was accused, was it proven? Jesus too was called mad by his family. Was he truly mad?
I think you are loosing it gradually by telling lies for Christ. How did he got is in-law drunk?
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by MightySparrow: 1:19pm On Nov 29, 2021
AntiChristian:


If we are to analyse this Jesus' action in court today, Jesus's disciple would be charged for:

1. Invasion of privacy.
2. Forceful Entry
3. Unauthorised possession of other's property amongst others!

While Jesus himself would be an accomplice to all those charges!

MightySparrow MightySparrow MightySparrow can you do something like this today?



If he was accused, was it proven? Jesus too was called mad by his family. Was he truly mad?
I think you are loosing it gradually by telling lies for Christ. How did he got is in-law drunk?


Antichrist (ian)


He said, if any man asked, tell them the lord has need of it. He knew the people and thus have instructions.


The action of that day had been Prophecised about 700 years before that occurrence.
Anyways as an ignorant critic, you don't need to know.

Go to your terrorist Prophet.

Fight those who do not have faith in Allah nor [believe] in the Last Day, nor forbid what Allah and His Apostle have forbidden, nor practise the true religion, from among those who were given the Book, until they pay the tribute out of hand, degraded.

Surah 9: 29
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by BeLookingIDIOT(m): 2:10pm On Nov 29, 2021
MightySparrow:


MaxInDHouse and Antichrist (ian)
Isa.24: 19 - 20; II Pet. 3: 10, 13; Rev 21:1
MaxInDHouse: all.else.will be killed by Jesus except jws.
Antichristian: Jesus will kill everybody except Muslims, break the cross and kill all pigs.
Jesus the killer!
Hahahahahaaaaaah
grin grin grin
Lol... But they're not lying na grin

Isaiah 66:15-18 (NET)
"15 ​​​​​​​For look, the LORD comes with fire, ​​​​​​his chariots come like a windstorm, ​​​​​​to reveal his raging anger, ​​​​​​his battle cry, and his flaming arrows. 16 ​​​​​​​For the LORD judges all humanity ​​​​​​with fire and his sword; ​​​​​​the LORD will kill many. 17 "As for those who consecrate and ritually purify themselves so they can follow their leader and worship in the sacred orchards, those who eat the flesh of pigs and other disgusting creatures, like mice – they will all be destroyed together,” says the LORD. 18 “I hate their deeds and thoughts! So I am coming to gather all the nations and ethnic groups; they will come and witness my splendor."

Destroying infidels and pigs is clearly part of Jesus to-do list,if he's the messiah.
Re: What Is The Purpose Of The Messiah? by AntiChristian: 2:20pm On Nov 29, 2021
MightySparrow:


Antichrist (ian)


He said, if any man asked, tell them the lord has need of it. He knew the people and thus have instructions.


The action of that day had been Prophecised about 700 years before that occurrence.
Anyways as an ignorant critic, you don't need to know.

But stealing is still stealing and Jesus was an accomplice. It doesn't matter whether he was trying to fulfil one prophesy or not!

Go to your terrorist Prophet.

Fight those who do not have faith in Allah nor [believe] in the Last Day, nor forbid what Allah and His Apostle have forbidden, nor practise the true religion, from among those who were given the Book, until they pay the tribute out of hand, degraded.
Surah 9: 29


If you call my Prophet a terrorist what do we call YAHWEH (JESUS, FATHER , SPIRIT) from the following actions? Is YAHWEH A TERORIST FOR HAVING A SWORD AND DESTROYING PEOPLE? MightySparrow MightySparrow MightySparrow May you be like Yahweh too doing all these acts!

Zephaniah 2:12-13
12“You too, O Cushites, will be slain by My sword.” 13And He will stretch out His hand against the north and destroy Assyria; He will make Nineveh a desolation, as dry as a desert.

Numbers
Chapter 31
7-12

7 And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males. 8 And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword. 9 And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods. 10 And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles, with fire. 11 And they took all the spoil, and all the prey, both of men and of beasts. 12 And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and unto the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the camp at the plains of Moab, which are by Jordan near Jericho.

I wonder what Christians have to say about this? Using their own criteria against them this makes their God a false violent God. So once again Christians should not throw stones if they live in a glass house.

17-18
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves

What do Christians have to say to this? This is their God commanding Moses to kill the women and CHILDREN and to keep the virgins alive.

Joshua
Chapter 2
8-21

8 And before they were laid down, she came up unto them upon the roof; 9 And she said unto the men, I know that the LORD hath given you the land, and that your terror is fallen upon us, and that all the inhabitants of the land faint because of you. 10 For we have heard how the LORD dried up the water of the Red sea for you, when ye came out of Egypt; and what ye did unto the two kings of the Amorites, that were on the other side Jordan, Sihon and Og, whom ye utterly destroyed. 11 And as soon as we had heard these things, our hearts did melt, neither did there remain any more courage in any man, because of you: for the LORD your God, he is God in heaven above, and in earth beneath. 12 Now therefore, I pray you, swear unto me by the LORD, since I have showed you kindness, that ye will also show kindness unto my father's house, and give me a true token: 13 And that ye will save alive my father, and my mother, and my brethren, and my sisters, and all that they have, and deliver our lives from death. 14 And the men answered her, Our life for yours, if ye utter not this our business. And it shall be, when the LORD hath given us the land, that we will deal kindly and truly with thee. 15 Then she let them down by a cord through the window: for her house was upon the town wall, and she dwelt upon the wall. 16 And she said unto them, Get you to the mountain, lest the pursuers meet you; and hide yourselves there three days, until the pursuers be returned: and afterward may ye go your way. 17 And the men said unto her, We will be blameless of this thine oath which thou hast made us swear. 18 Behold, when we come into the land, thou shalt bind this line of scarlet thread in the window which thou didst let us down by: and thou shalt bring thy father, and thy mother, and thy brethren, and all thy father's household, home unto thee. 19 And it shall be, that whosoever shall go out of the doors of thy house into the street, his blood shall be upon his head, and we will be guiltless: and whosoever shall be with thee in the house, his blood shall be on our head, if any hand be upon him. 20 And if thou utter this our business, then we will be quit of thine oath which thou hast made us to swear. 21 And she said, According unto your words, so be it. And she sent them away, and they departed: and she bound the scarlet line in the window.

Now several things to note, notice how the people are so scared of Joshua's people. They are all filled with terror because of the acts committed by Moses and Joshua under God's commands. Now what do Christians have to say about this? Look how their God installed terror into the hearts of everyone, women and children, and these people had no hope of survival! Even if they were kids and women who did not do anything. This is enough evidence of the terror that was going around under God's command.

Joshua
Chapter 6
17-27

17 And the city shall be accursed, even it, and all that are therein, to the LORD: only Rahab the harlot shall live, she and all that are with her in the house, because she hid the messengers that we sent. 18 And ye, in any wise keep yourselves from the accursed thing, lest ye make yourselves accursed, when ye take of the accursed thing, and make the camp of Israel a curse, and trouble it. 19 But all the silver, and gold, and vessels of brass and iron, are consecrated unto the LORD: they shall come into the treasury of the LORD. 20 So the people shouted when the priests blew with the trumpets: and it came to pass, when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, and the people shouted with a great shout, that the wall fell down flat, so that the people went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they took the city. 21 And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword. 22 But Joshua had said unto the two men that had spied out the country, Go into the harlot's house, and bring out thence the woman, and all that she hath, as ye sware unto her. 23 And the young men that were spies went in, and brought out Rahab, and her father, and her mother, and her brethren, and all that she had; and they brought out all her kindred, and left them without the camp of Israel. 24 And they burnt the city with fire, and all that was therein: only the silver, and the gold, and the vessels of brass and of iron, they put into the treasury of the house of the LORD. 25 And Joshua saved Rahab the harlot alive, and her father's household, and all that she had; and she dwelleth in Israel even unto this day; because she hid the messengers, which Joshua sent to spy out Jericho. 26 And Joshua adjured them at that time, saying, Cursed be the man before the LORD, that riseth up and buildeth this city Jericho: he shall lay the foundation thereof in his firstborn, and in his youngest son shall he set up the gates of it. 27 So the LORD was with Joshua; and his fame was noised throughout all the country.

So Joshua and his army storm a city, they kill everyone as usual accept the harlot and her family. Is this not terror?

Joshua
Chapter 8
1-29

1 And the LORD said unto Joshua, Fear not, neither be thou dismayed: take all the people of war with thee, and arise, go up to Ai: see, I have given into thy hand the king of Ai, and his people, and his city, and his land: 2 And thou shalt do to Ai and her king as thou didst unto Jericho and her king: only the spoil thereof, and the cattle thereof, shall ye take for a prey unto yourselves: lay thee an ambush for the city behind it.

3 So Joshua arose, and all the people of war, to go up against Ai: and Joshua chose out thirty thousand mighty men of valor, and sent them away by night. 4 And he commanded them, saying, Behold, ye shall lie in wait against the city, even behind the city: go not very far from the city, but be ye all ready: 5 And I, and all the people that are with me, will approach unto the city: and it shall come to pass, when they come out against us, as at the first, that we will flee before them, 6 (For they will come out after us) till we have drawn them from the city; for they will say, They flee before us, as at the first: therefore we will flee before them. 7 Then ye shall rise up from the ambush, and seize upon the city: for the LORD your God will deliver it into your hand. 8 And it shall be, when ye have taken the city, that ye shall set the city on fire: according to the commandment of the LORD shall ye do. See, I have commanded you. 9 Joshua therefore sent them forth: and they went to lie in ambush, and abode between Bethel and Ai, on the west side of Ai: but Joshua lodged that night among the people. 10 And Joshua rose up early in the morning, and numbered the people, and went up, he and the elders of Israel, before the people to Ai. 11 And all the people, even the people of war that were with him, went up, and drew nigh, and came before the city, and pitched on the north side of Ai: now there was a valley between them and Ai. 12 And he took about five thousand men, and set them to lie in ambush between Bethel and Ai, on the west side of the city. 13 And when they had set the people, even all the host that was on the north of the city, and their liers in wait on the west of the city, Joshua went that night into the midst of the valley. 14 And it came to pass, when the king of Ai saw it, that they hasted and rose up early, and the men of the city went out against Israel to battle, he and all his people, at a time appointed, before the plain; but he wist not that there were liers in ambush against him behind the city. 15 And Joshua and all Israel made as if they were beaten before them, and fled by the way of the wilderness. 16 And all the people that were in Ai were called together to pursue after them: and they pursued after Joshua, and were drawn away from the city. 17 And there was not a man left in Ai or Bethel, that went not out after Israel: and they left the city open, and pursued after Israel. 18 And the LORD said unto Joshua, Stretch out the spear that is in thy hand toward Ai; for I will give it into thine hand. And Joshua stretched out the spear that he had in his hand toward the city. 19 And the ambush arose quickly out of their place, and they ran as soon as he had stretched out his hand: and they entered into the city, and took it, and hasted and set the city on fire. 20 And when the men of Ai looked behind them, they saw, and, behold, the smoke of the city ascended up to heaven, and they had no power to flee this way or that way: and the people that fled to the wilderness turned back upon the pursuers. 21 And when Joshua and all Israel saw that the ambush had taken the city, and that the smoke of the city ascended, then they turned again, and slew the men of Ai. 22 And the other issued out of the city against them; so they were in the midst of Israel, some on this side, and some on that side: and they smote them, so that they let none of them remain or escape.

23 And the king of Ai they took alive, and brought him to Joshua. 24 And it came to pass, when Israel had made an end of slaying all the inhabitants of Ai in the field, in the wilderness wherein they chased them, and when they were all fallen on the edge of the sword, until they were consumed, that all the Israelites returned unto Ai, and smote it with the edge of the sword. 25 And so it was, that all that fell that day, both of men and women, were twelve thousand, even all the men of Ai. 26 For Joshua drew not his hand back, wherewith he stretched out the spear, until he had utterly destroyed all the inhabitants of Ai. 27 Only the cattle and the spoil of that city Israel took for a prey unto themselves, according unto the word of the LORD which he commanded Joshua. 28 And Joshua burnt Ai, and made it an heap for ever, even a desolation unto this day. 29 And the king of Ai he hanged on a tree until eventide: and as soon as the sun was down, Joshua commanded that they should take his carcass down from the tree, and cast it at the entering of the gate of the city, and raise thereon a great heap of stones, that remaineth unto this day.

Another battle, another massacre of women and children.

Joshua
Chapter 10
28-43

28 And that day Joshua took Makkedah, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and the king thereof he utterly destroyed, them, and all the souls that were therein; he let none remain: and he did to the king of Makkedah as he did unto the king of Jericho. 29 Then Joshua passed from Makkedah, and all Israel with him, unto Libnah, and fought against Libnah: 30 And the LORD delivered it also, and the king thereof, into the hand of Israel; and he smote it with the edge of the sword, and all the souls that were therein; he let none remain in it; but did unto the king thereof as he did unto the king of Jericho. 31 And Joshua passed from Libnah, and all Israel with him, unto Lachish, and encamped against it, and fought against it: 32 And the LORD delivered Lachish into the hand of Israel, which took it on the second day, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and all the souls that were therein, according to all that he had done to Libnah. 33 Then Horam king of Gezer came up to help Lachish; and Joshua smote him and his people, until he had left him none remaining. 34 And from Lachish Joshua passed unto Eglon, and all Israel with him; and they encamped against it, and fought against it: 35 And they took it on that day, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and all the souls that were therein he utterly destroyed that day, according to all that he had done to Lachish. 36 And Joshua went up from Eglon, and all Israel with him, unto Hebron; and they fought against it: 37 And they took it, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and the king thereof, and all the cities thereof, and all the souls that were therein; he left none remaining, according to all that he had done to Eglon; but destroyed it utterly, and all the souls that were therein. 38 And Joshua returned, and all Israel with him, to Debir; and fought against it: 39 And he took it, and the king thereof, and all the cities thereof; and they smote them with the edge of the sword, and utterly destroyed all the souls that were therein; he left none remaining: as he had done to Hebron, so he did to Debir, and to the king thereof; as he had done also to Libnah, and to her king. 40 So Joshua smote all the country of the hills, and of the south, and of the vale, and of the springs, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded. 41 And Joshua smote them from Kadeshbarnea even unto Gaza, and all the country of Goshen, even unto Gibeon. 42 And all these kings and their land did Joshua take at one time, because the LORD God of Israel fought for Israel. 43 And Joshua returned, and all Israel with him, unto the camp to Gilgal.

Same old story, more massacres, leaving NO SOULS ALIVE. I wonder what Christians have to say to this? They cannot say anything, they believe this happened, and they believe in this God who they claim to be Jesus.

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