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Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by SHOPPERS(m): 5:33pm On Dec 01, 2021
Michelle55:

Kindly have one kid if you so desire but never impose such a decision on someone else, it should be a mutual and collective idea to have just a kid when it comes to building a family thereby giving room for readjustment when the need calls for it.

This is a red flag already and I guess the dude isn't cool with it either. Who builds a relationship on conditions such as this?

Abi o.

If the guy were to be the kind of man I assume he is, he is probably already moving on gently.

This kind lady go give you beta wahala when una reach house.

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Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by Michelle55: 5:35pm On Dec 01, 2021
SHOPPERS:


First, you said he was reluctant to accept that you only want one kid. I understand it's your choice but as a man, an African man, he's probably thinking up so many eventualities.

Let's say you give birth to a baby and down the years, he discovers that the baby is not his own after forfeiting all chances of ever getting someone else pregnant, what should he do?

Let's assume something bad happens along the line and God forbid the child exits this world, what should he do?

The thing is, family planning many times can be reversed. There are many options that are reversible in case you guys change your mind later on.

I will rather opt for one of those than put all my eggs, (just this two sef) in the mouth of the lion.

And I don't think you're a good fit for the guy though. You sound more like the Nigerian version of comfortable feminists who are doing well financially and therefore feel they should have their way in every Convo with a man.

In this case, you are the one suggesting just one kid and all, why can't you take the bull by the horns and seal up? But nope, you want him to accept your decision to have one kid and still bear the responsibility of ensuring it.

No, he does not have ulterior motives, you're just not the right one for him.

Why not adopt just one kid and rest sef.
Well said!
Since she's the one who suggested family planning, she can as well bear the responsibility alone.
E no too hard nau, na you want one pikin kuku go lock your womb and leave the man to spread his tent elsewhere.
No-one likes being in a relationship where there are laid down conditions and rules, I won't be surprised if there would be a rooster for nackings too

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Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by Kobojunkie: 5:36pm On Dec 01, 2021
Michelle55:

When you are through giving me instances of how their relationship should be, you might as well patch things up between them.
1. Calling someone darling doesn't mean a thing (you can ask those who use such endearment often) like I said, a reasonable and right-thinking man knows what's good for his family and doesn't need much convincing to agree.

The moment he grudgingly agreed, she could have asked him what he truly wants and then both of them can reach a compromise and not she insisting on that one-child policy of hers. If it's that important for her to give birth to one then she should get the family planning done on her.
Kapish!
1. A reasonable and right-thinking woman doesn't know what's good for her family as well? After all it is also the woman's family so why should it be the man’s say alone? undecided

2. He agreed. So what need was there for a compromise of any kind if he agreed to it? undecided

So, even though they are both meant to act together as one in the relationship, because she insisted on the one-child policy, means she should be the one to bear it all? undecided

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Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by GIdiata(m): 5:57pm On Dec 01, 2021
I was still trying to wrap my head around his refusal, when he said, it will be done on you ( the family planning). That instant, I felt all alone, like im on my own. So I told him I needed to cool off, and he said feel free.

The big question is ..
[s]WHY DID HE BLUNTLY REFUSE A VASECTOMY?

COULD HE HAVE ULTERIOR MOTIVES?[/s]

IS IT NOT BETTER TO OPT OUT NOW THAN PRETEND I DIDN'T GET THE MESSAGE AND END UP IN REGRETS?

WHAT DOES IT MEAN WHEN A MAN KICKS AGAINST VASECTOMY? [/quote]

Selfish, wicked and manipulative gender.
It's obvious the innocent man doesn't know what's coming for him. SMH I pity him If he doesn't stop calling you and jakpa. Cos I'm 100% sure u will cut his penis(automatic vasectomy) if u guys end up together

Women are wicked and manipulative. Know this and know peace

When u brought the option of vasectomy he didn't feel all alone.
He recommends family planning on you, you are feeling all alone. What a selfish creature u are

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Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by cayorday89(m): 6:21pm On Dec 01, 2021
Many men will not accept it, reasons I don't know, for me I have never thought of it, probably when I get to that bridge how to cross will be decided.

I guess most are thinking of the unthinkable and unforseen circumstances that might happen in the future. Last episode of THE THERAPY by Falz and Toke was on this vasectomy.
Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by Kobojunkie: 6:34pm On Dec 01, 2021
cayorday89:
Many men will not accept it, reasons I don't know, for me I have never thought of it, probably when I get to that bridge how to cross will be decided.

I guess most are thinking of the unthinkable and unforseen circumstances that might happen in the future. Last episode of THE THERAPY by Falz and Toke was on this vasectomy.
And? undecided
Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by Nouribedsheet(f): 6:49pm On Dec 01, 2021
He doesn't have ulterior motives.
You both are not compatible since he want more than one kid and you want one, I think the best thing to do is end the relationship.

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Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by Nobody: 7:12pm On Dec 01, 2021
Nouribedsheet:
He doesn't have ulterior motives.
You both are not compatible since he want more than one kid and you want one, I think the best thing to do is end the relationship.

Thats why Ive stopped picking his calls. Let him look for someone that will give him battalion.

cayorday89:
Many men will not accept it, reasons I don't know, for me I have never thought of it, probably when I get to that bridge how to cross will be decided.

I guess most are thinking of the unthinkable and unforseen circumstances that might happen in the future. Last episode of THE THERAPY by Falz and Toke was on this vasectomy.

What was it they talked about. Just brief me. I would have gone to YouTube to watch it but right now I'm too tired to watch anything or reason straight.

I'm really stressed.
Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by cayorday89(m): 7:31pm On Dec 01, 2021
Kobojunkie:
And? undecided

Mercychen:


Thats why Ive stopped picking his calls. Let him look for someone that will give him battalion.



What was it they talked about. Just brief me. I would have gone to YouTube to watch it but right now I'm too tired to watch anything or reason straight.

I'm really stressed.
Have you seen the previous episodes? , they don't always come to a conclusion on any issue raised, it's more or less creating awareness on issues in marriages, and ones to be addressed when going into it, with the wife and the husband taking sides that favors them and the final decisions left to the viewers to take as it is deemed fit for them in their relationship. But I think that vasectomy is a dicey situation considering the fact that anything can happen especially when it comes to having just one child. I will make my findings because of this if it can be reversed and if yes if it comes with no side effects reversing it.
Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by cayorday89(m): 7:33pm On Dec 01, 2021
Nouribedsheet:
He doesn't have ulterior motives.
You both are not compatible since he want more than one kid and you want one, I think the best thing to do is end the relationship.
Permit me to ask, does the number of children have to do with them been compatible or yhem not just agreeing on the number of children they want.

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Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by Nobody: 7:35pm On Dec 01, 2021
cayorday89:



Have you seen the previous episodes? , they don't always come to a conclusion on any issue raised, it's more or less creating awareness on issues in marriages, and ones to be addressed when going into it, with the wife and the husband taking sides that favors them and the final decisions left to the viewers to take as it is deemed fit for them in their relationship. But I think that vasectomy is a dicey situation considering the fact that anything can happen especially when it comes to having just one child. I will make my findings because of this if it can be reversed and if yes if it comes with no side effects reversing it.

Ok dear.

Nope, I haven't seen previous episodes.

Thank you so much.
Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by Kobojunkie: 7:45pm On Dec 01, 2021
cayorday89:
But I think that vasectomy is a dicey situation considering the fact that anything can happen especially when it comes to having just one child. I will make my findings because of this if it can be reversed and if yes if it comes with no side effects reversing it.
I don't know the show. undecided

So, what about couples who chose to have no kids at all? undecided
Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by cayorday89(m): 7:58pm On Dec 01, 2021
Kobojunkie:
I don't know the show. undecided

So, what about couples who chose to have no kids at all? undecided
Both have the mindset of not having a child from the onset, so even if they mistakenly have a child and death takes it away from them, they will not be pained that much but I can't verify that claim 100%.
And just in case you meant who should go for which family planning option for couples who chose not to have kids at all, they will decide on their terms just like they both agreed not to have even one. So it will be an easy decision also.
Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by Lindajames1010: 8:00pm On Dec 01, 2021
Haven't you wondered y relationship isn't working for you all this while?

Don't even bother yourself looking for someone that will agree to your terms because u won't find any, not that men who want just a child isn't available they're but the way ure saying it to them is a turn off to anybody who have such motive initially

With this your mind set you might not be able to find husband sooner or later

U're hardworking and interligent woman no doubt but ur kind of selfishness is out of this world

U want totally control and u want everything to be don according to how u want it and it's very bad of u ...... please u will have to change so u can marry even though u people are busy saying marriage isn't everything still u need to marry so u won't be bitter at your old age.

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Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by Karleb(m): 8:06pm On Dec 01, 2021
It's selfishness on your path.

I'd never agree to that. Why don't you have hysterectomy? Huh!

There are other safer methods to plan the family.

I'd never agree to vasectomy.

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Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by cayorday89(m): 8:07pm On Dec 01, 2021
Mercychen:


Ok dear.

Nope, I haven't seen previous episodes.

Thank you so much.
You most welcome, and I think you should not just call it up, you still need to have a one on one talk with him, this time let him know it involves serious discussions on several issues you both will like to be addressed for the good of the relationship both in the long and short term. This time you both will be prepared to bare your mind while you give him time to think each situations through before he answers you considering the fact he might not be bothered on some aspects as much as you do and trust me you both will make a headway and come to a conclusion. Also note that either of you will have TO COMPROMISE in some aspects too.

On a lighter mode, If God wan catch you, you come born TWINS nko? Think about it... CHEERS

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Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by Nobody: 8:11pm On Dec 01, 2021
cayorday89:

You most welcome, and I think you should not just call it up, you still need to have a one on one talk with him, this time let him know it involves serious discussions on several issues you both will like to be addressed for the good of the relationship both in the long and short term. This time you both will be prepared to bare your mind while you give him time to think each situations through before he answers you considering the fact he might not be bothered on some aspects as much as you do and trust me you both will make a headway and come to a conclusion. Also note that either of you will have TO COMPROMISE in some aspects too.

On a lighter mode, If God wan catch you, you come born TWINS nko? Think about it... CHEERS

Lol @ "you come born twins nko?"

Let his will be done.

Thank you so much.
Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by Sanchez01: 8:15pm On Dec 01, 2021
AdaSunshine:
Your terms and conditions are just simply too much, a huge turn off.

-Don't you think that is too much of a sacrifice to ask of someone you're not married to?

-Do you think you're worth that sacrifice?
Why would you ask someone to give up their fertility?
-How far have you gone with him to dare to ask that of him?
-Do you know the magnitude of the sacrifice you're asking for?
- Isn't that selfish of you?

-Will you be ready to take the blame later in future?
If I were the guy, I'd take that as a red flag.
I'd be the one to opt out.
I wouldn't exactly call it a red flag. The problem here is convincing the poor guy to 'manage' one kid and then ask him to walk about with a sterile semen. The guy does not obviously agree to it and since it was her who chose that for them, it is only normal to carry the weight of the tubal ligation. This way, when his family or himself feel a child is not enough, he can easily go out while you don't have to pressure yourself.

Asking him to carry the weight of your dream, vision or goal or whatever it is is a sage-level selfishness. They are not just compatible.

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Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by cayorday89(m): 8:17pm On Dec 01, 2021
Mercychen:


Lol @ "you come born twins nko?"

Let his will be done.

Thank you so much.
Glad I made you laugh, so talk with him and you both should meet at a point favorable for you both with the mindset of if he even agreed to one as you wanted and it turned out twins or triplets will you kill them to have just one.

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Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by Newboss(m): 9:20pm On Dec 01, 2021
This one think say she don find simp.

Na real man be that. Thousands of marriages and relationships end every fûcking day. You think he's that stupid? Reversible my ass

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Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by Kobojunkie: 9:33pm On Dec 01, 2021
cayorday89:

Both have the mindset of not having a child from the onset, so even if they mistakenly have a child and death takes it away from them, they will not be pained that much but I can't verify that claim 100%.
Ofcourse they will! No one who loves a child is not pained when said child is gone. But having plans to ensure you can replace a child in the case of death.... does it not sound to you as bad as it does to me? undecided
Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by cayorday89(m): 9:41pm On Dec 01, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Ofcourse they will! No one who loves a child is not pained when said child is gone. But having plans to ensure you can replace a child in the case of death.... does it not sound to you as bad as it does to me? undecided
Whether bad or good I can't say but one thing I am sure of is the child that is gone is gone, time, love and all the money spent to nurture such child is gone and will be mourned accordingly, getting another is what it is which is getting another, not replacing cos they are two different personalities and different times dedicated to nurture the newly born. So getting another to such parent is like having another chance at nurturing a child and not necessarily replacing.

I am still not 100% certain though, cos I am not even married.

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Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by zed7: 7:48am On Dec 02, 2021
Do you know the meaning of a vasectomy? If you run off with another man or God forbid you die, what happens?
It's either you do family planning or you guys use condoms. Stop talking nonsense about vasectomy to a young man.

I've been stumbling on this lady's posts occasionally and it's easy to observe that she not so 'alright'.

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Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by Michelle55: 8:20am On Dec 02, 2021
zed7:
Do you know the meaning of a vasectomy? If you run off with another man or God forbid you die, what happens?
It's either you do family planning or you guys use condoms. Stop talking nonsense about vasectomy to a young man.

I've been stumbling on this lady's posts occasionally and it's easy to observe that she not so 'alright'.
cheesy please be nice, it's a new month. Let love lead! smiley

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Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by crackhaus: 8:41am On Dec 02, 2021
Mercychen:


Exactly!
God bless you.


You know with the female family planning comes a lot of risk and issues of mismatch or even failure which leads to unwanted pregnancies. While the male type is safer and with less risks.

You want to lose a good man because you've been listening to our resident pseudo-feminists and SJWs on Nairaland who keep suggesting that men should go for vasectomies abi... cheesy

Lady, you need to stop paying attention to what a lot of your gender people claim on the internet... It's not real life oo.
You will just carry what you learnt here and use it to spoil a good thing that is working out for you.

Ask around on NL, how many of these women who preach about vasectomies have actually made their husbands do it? cheesy
They are all still partaking in the 'withdrawal method' and letting their men pour his spérm on their stomach or on their breasts, BUT they will come on NL to advise the rest of you to tell your men to do snip-snip...

Take it easy abeg...

At least now you have seen that most men will NEVER entertain the idea.

If you like, start a new relationship with another dude and then tell him to do a vasectomy, that's how he will still tell you NO and you'll be back to singlehood again.

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Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by crackhaus: 8:46am On Dec 02, 2021
zed7:
Do you know the meaning of a vasectomy? If you run off with another man or God forbid you die, what happens?
It's either you do family planning or you guys use condoms. Stop talking nonsense about vasectomy to a young man.

I've been stumbling on this lady's posts occasionally and it's easy to observe that she not so 'alright'.
She's actually more 'alright' than a lot of them on this forum.

She finally put to test what she has been seeing some of her gender people suggest here so carelessly, and she has found out that real life is real life.

Which young man will you tell to undergo a vasectomy for you and he will wag his tail like a puppy and tell you YES MA? grin

Jokes...

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Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by NoToPile: 9:05am On Dec 02, 2021
Loool 2 things here

1. Lots of people (male and female) won't accept one child policy and he's not an exception

2. Lots of men(99.999% of Nigerian men) would never go for a vasectomy they prefer the women doing the family planning either temporary or permanent.

Even if you guys agreed to have 4 kids he would never have a vasectomy after those 4 children lailai.

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Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by zed7: 9:09am On Dec 02, 2021
She's actually more 'alright' than a lot of them on this forum.
Interesting.
A woman who wants her man to do vasectomy should be talking to a widower who has had all his children and just needs a wife for companionship only.

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Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by Raalsalghul: 9:53am On Dec 02, 2021
crackhaus:

You want to lose a good man because you've been listening to our resident pseudo-feminists and SJWs on Nairaland who keep suggesting that men should go for vasectomies abi... cheesy

Lady, you need to stop paying attention to what a lot of your gender people claim on the internet... It's not real life oo.
You will just carry what you learnt here and use it to spoil a good thing that is working out for you.

Ask around on NL, how many of these women who preach about vasectomies have actually made their husbands do it? cheesy
They are all still partaking in the 'withdrawal method' and letting their men pour his spérm on their stomach or on their breasts, BUT they will come on NL to advise the rest of you to tell your men to do snip-snip...

Take it easy abeg...

At least now you have seen that most men will NEVER entertain the idea.

If you like, start a new relationship with another dude and then tell him to do a vasectomy, that's how he will still tell you NO and you'll be back to singlehood again.

grin grin grin grin grin


This guy, your mouth ehn!

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Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by Nobody: 11:23am On Dec 02, 2021
crackhaus:

You want to lose a good man because you've been listening to our resident pseudo-feminists and SJWs on Nairaland who keep suggesting that men should go for vasectomies abi... cheesy

Lady, you need to stop paying attention to what a lot of your gender people claim on the internet... It's not real life oo.
You will just carry what you learnt here and use it to spoil a good thing that is working out for you.

Ask around on NL, how many of these women who preach about vasectomies have actually made their husbands do it? cheesy
They are all still partaking in the 'withdrawal method' and letting their men pour his spérm on their stomach or on their breasts, BUT they will come on NL to advise the rest of you to tell your men to do snip-snip...

Take it easy abeg...

At least now you have seen that most men will NEVER entertain the idea.

If you like, start a new relationship with another dude and then tell him to do a vasectomy, that's how he will still tell you NO and you'll be back to singlehood again.

Ok,. That was why I brought it Here in the first place to see what other men think about it.

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Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by JovialJune(f): 1:12pm On Dec 02, 2021
MufasaLion:
Vasectomy needs more awareness. Most men don't understand how it is and most people don't even know it exist. You just gotta talk to him and explain things to him. Most people believes family planning is only done to the females.

Moreover, ego is among the reasons he kicks against vasectomy. An average African man wouldn't want to live his life knowing his semen is useless.


Which stupid ego? What has ego got to do with breeding like chicken here and there? Men are actually the cause of overpopulation of the world especially Nigeria, if we should ascertain the ratio of women aware of family planning, it is very high, men prefer to breed here and there like daft ignorant illiterate, clip your diick mbanu, they will push it to their wives,

They never want to take reaponsibilty, women have been responsible for child birth control for decades, there should be an awareness for vasectomy really.

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Re: Could He Have Ulterior Motives By Disagreeing To This? Should I Opt Out? by MufasaLion: 1:17pm On Dec 02, 2021
JovialJune:



Which stupid ego? What has ego got to do with breeding like chicken here and there? Men are actually the cause of overpopulation of the world especially Nigeria, if we should ascertain the ratio of women aware of family planning, it is very high, men prefer to breed here and there like daft ignorant illiterate, clip your diick mbanu, they will push it to their wives,

They never want to take reaponsibilty, women have been responsible to child birth control for decades, there should be an awareness for vasectomy really.

Damn! Women and emotions. Understand my post and not just jump to comment. Their refusal to go for vasectomy might be part of the overpopulation because most men wouldn't want to live with the thought of having a semen that's not even useful. What's the purpose of being a man but your semen is useless?

Only few men are gonna look beyond that and go for vasectomy. More awareness needs to be done.

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