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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by christistruth01: 11:29am On Dec 03, 2021 |
Igboid: It was Ajayi Crowther who took Taylor to Onitsha after Crowther went to Preach there years earlier The Yoruba speaking Itsekiri had been interacting and trading with Igbos for Centuries so finding interpreters wasn't even a Problem 3 Likes |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Igboid: 11:41am On Dec 03, 2021 |
christistruth01: Crowther is a Yoruba man. He can't preach to a people who doesn't understand him. Stop being unreasonable. Crowther was a mere figure head of the church. As far as bringing gospel to Igboland is concerned ( and by this I meant interactions with the villagers), Crowther was as Useless as P in Psychology. Anyone else could have done the administrative duties he was doing. By the way, Crowther and Taylor were both working for CMS, yeah, by the ranking within the organization, Crowther was higher ranked,but Taylor wasn't Crowther employee, they were both working for the CMS, with Crowther working as more of an administrative officer, while Taylor with Simon Jonas were the foot soldiers, who thanks to their Igbo language can actually interact with Igbos in Aboh and Onitsha. So I don't get were you got the idea that Taylor was Crowther handbag. 1 Like |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Christistruth00: 11:56am On Dec 03, 2021 |
Igboid: Even today in Igboland many Preachers use interpreters every Sunday The Yoruba Speaking Itsekiri had been interacting and Trading with Igbos for Centuries , interpreters were not a Problem Some Asaba Area People too Could speak Yoruba and Igbo, Yoruba People used to go to Asaba for Business 1 Like |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by DonXavi(m): 11:59am On Dec 03, 2021 |
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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Igboid: 12:00pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Christistruth00: Crowther never preached in Igboland. Taylor and Simon Jonas did the preaching. No need using an interpreter when you have capable hands that can do the work directly. It's common sense. Crowther was more of an administrative officer in Igboland for CMS. The preaching and interactions with the locals were undertaken by Igbo slaves in Jonas and Taylor. You lots are just suffering from inferiority complex, trying to assign to yourself a stupid tag of bringer of civilization to Ndiigbo. Are you lots okay at all? 3 Likes |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Igboid: 12:02pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Christistruth00: No such Yoruba speaking Itsekiris was needed by CMS to bring the gospel to Igboland, not when they have brilliant and capable Igbo slaves from Sierra Leone to do the job. 2 Likes |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by aribisala0(m): 1:00pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Igboid: You are not saying any of this based on facts but because it is what you want to believe and what causes your ego the least distress. Your antagonist has his agenda which again is based on unknowable "facts" We are talking essentially of unknowable things that happened over 100 years ago and you both talk as if you were there. Ultimately you are motivated by a desire to preserve Ego integrity and you should observe yourself and your drives closely 2 Likes |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Igboid: 1:07pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
aribisala0: Do you have evidence that Crowther could speak Igbo? Nope! Do you have evidence that Crowther preached to Igbos in Igboland? Nope. All you are interested in is your foolish ego and stupidity to claim superiority over a people who you are no match to in any aspect of human development in the past present or future. Get away you. 2 Likes |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by aribisala0(m): 1:08pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Igboid:Nna Where did I claim any of those things? You are programmed to bark and bite for no reason What I will say that is a fact is your people never evolved beyond the Umunna level of self organization or administration. That is why it was possible for smaller groups like the Itskekiri, Efik and Ijaw to sell you as slaves for centuries Even today the typical Igbo man psychology is Umunna Psychology. That is the extent of your development.!! Nna 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Igboid: 1:16pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
aribisala0: The Igbo had better organization level than your people could muster, reason the greatest resistance to colonial was in Igboland. You need organization to fight a superior force like the British. No Efik,Ijaw, or non Igbo could enter Igboland and return back alive in precolonial days. Yoruba like you whose people were sold all over Americas as slaves by the Bini and Nupes (Tapa) has no stand to talk about slave trade. But I'm not surprised, wisdom has never been your forte, which was why you finished yourselves fighting stupid kiriji wars and begged the whites to colonize you just to save you from your savage selves by ending the senseless wars. 3 Likes |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by wealthtrak: 1:25pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
christistruth01:True... Cassava came to Africa from South America. However, yams are native to Africa, Asia, South America Yams and cassava were part of the foods used to feed captives on the notorious slave ships based on the history books I've read. Many returnee "formerly" enslaved Yorubas from Brazil and Cuba in the 1800s settled in the Campos Square and Popo Aguda areas of Lagos Island. Some of the Yoruba-Brazilian/Yoruba-Cuban returnees were the first adherants of the catholic religion in modern Nigeria, before French catholic missionaries first moved to Onitsha based on archival documents. Nigeria's first pound millionaire was Candido Da Rocha. His Ijesa-Yoruba family returned from Bahia in Brazil in the late 1800s. Many Yoruba returnees in the 1800s from Sierra Leone like Ajayi Crowther, and Desmond Elliot's paternal ancestor, (or the Vaughan and Jackson families who returned to Yorubaland from the U.S. after first settling in Liberia) settled finally in the Ebute-Meta and/or Olowogbowo area of Lagos Island. 1 Like 2 Shares
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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Igboid: 1:28pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
wealthtrak: Cassava and Maize came to Africa from Americas. But Yam is Indigenous to Africa. 3 Likes |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by aribisala0(m): 1:45pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Igboid:Nna I understand the need to make yourself feel good. It is what it is Umunna politics Nothing more You never evolved beyond the village level There was NOT A SINGLE recorded town in your history. In fact your history is largely forgettable and that s why you are now claiming to be Jews 1 Like |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by 1Sharon(f): 1:46pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
bullabong: Was it the Christian God? |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by 1Sharon(f): 1:46pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Putindbutt: An agent of colonization |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Igboid: 1:48pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
aribisala0: We are evolved enough to teach your people better metallurgical methods. See for yourself, we are your chi! We were bringing civilization to you. https://www.nairaland.com/6765286/early-igbo-sojourners-eastern-yorubaland No be today. 2 Likes |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by 1Sharon(f): 1:50pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
aribisala0: Stop foaming at the mouth. Crowther never made that speech 1 Like
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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Guestlander: 1:58pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Igboid: You don't know what you are talking about. History is what it is, not what you want it to be. 1 Like |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Guestlander: 2:38pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Igboid: You are posting nonsense. Do you know more than the CMS about the early missionaries in Nigeria? You have no interest in being part of Yoruba history! Like you have any choice in that. Perhaps you have the power to travel back in time and change the course of history. You are posting crap because you are consumed by bigotry and inferiority complex. A Yoruba man led the first missionaries to Iboland. Wrote the first primer for Ibo language. Translated the Bible to Ibo language. Brought Akpu too. You can rave and rant from here to eternity and these facts will never change. Sorry you feel sad about this. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Omowoolata: 2:39pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
kingawothefirst: Lol just lol |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Igboid: 2:41pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Guestlander: You are suffering from inferiority complex. Ajayi crowther was never able to speak fluent Igbo, but he could write Igbo primer. Your head is not working well. Wake up. Simon Jonas is the one who wrote the Igbo primer, Crowther was a mere supervisor for CMS for the project. You can't give what you don't have. 2 Likes |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by seanwilliam(m): 3:06pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
IgbosDestroynSA:wetin be this for Christ sake . 1 Like |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by aribisala0(m): 3:11pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
wealthtrak: Yams did not come to Africa from South America. Not true Dioscorea cayenensis Dioscorea cayenensis Are NATIVE TO AFRICA Were you a chef on a slave Ship? How do you know they were fed yam? Was it pounded yam or fried Yam? Please do not say things that you just made up as if you saw a video I know for a fact they were fed Indomie with Suya 1 Like |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by christistruth01: 3:12pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Igboid: Igboid get rid of the Pride and humble yourself so you can gain more understanding How were your People able to communicate with the Lander brothers and other Europeans when they Traveled through your Area on River Niger since your Father's didn't understand or speak English ? The same Yoruba Speaking Itsekiri were also the local experts in Pidgin English from Centuries of Trading with Europeans on the Coast and did all the interpreting for your Father's again The Itsekiri had an Olu who had Studied in a European University in the 17th Century and his wife was Portuguese too 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by seanwilliam(m): 3:22pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
christistruth01:it’s finished 4 Likes |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Guestlander: 3:53pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Igboid: You are free to revel in your ignorance. 1 Like |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Antivirus92(m): 4:21pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
backbencher:go back and check the list of what he listed as not being native to africa and check who's wrong between him and i |
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Nobody: 4:24pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Antivirus92: You can check online. Plus I am aware that maize and cocoa at least we're not native to these soils Good evening. |
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