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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by 1Sharon(f): 1:16am On Dec 03, 2021
Guestlander:


I am not talking about those people. People like Ajayi Crowther, Mary Slessor and many others in their own little ways. Not colonizers.

Ajaji crowther was a house negro. It was wrong how he distorted Yoruba language in his dictionary.
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by 1Sharon(f): 1:28am On Dec 03, 2021
ruggedtimi:
I don't think ajayi was the one that said this....it was sir William Balfour Baike

You're right undecided

Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by FreeStuffsNG: 1:46am On Dec 03, 2021
Daum:



No... It's not Agbor he was referring to. It's Aboh.. It's a town close to the river Niger. It's in Ndokwa local government
Oh oh! Thank you. I had to look it up online and you are absolutely right sir, it's the centre of Ndokwa,Anioma .

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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Guestlander: 2:00am On Dec 03, 2021
1Sharon:


Ajaji crowther was a house negro. It was wrong how he distorted Yoruba language in his dictionary.

Not true Sharon. Even the English language of that era is different from the one written and spoken today.

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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Nobody: 2:18am On Dec 03, 2021
Omowoolata:
This thread funny AF! grin grin

Walai! Low key with minimal insults, just facts the south western way! Gotta love the sophisticated Yorubas!

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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by 1Sharon(f): 2:42am On Dec 03, 2021
Guestlander:


Not true Sharon. Even the English language of that era is different from the one written and spoken today.

Right. Some words in Yoruba cannot be translated. But he did it anyway. He was an arm of Christian propaganda and it worked.
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by bullabong(m): 2:43am On Dec 03, 2021
IgbosDestroynSA:
Na Yoruba man even give this people Christianity! Damn.
Yoruba go far o.
Why we con de drag with this people.
Well we go soon colonize them. Na aid we go take colonize igboland
At least you read where he talked of a certain"God"being worshipped even before the coming of Christianity. Igbos used "Chukwu" (God) as names before the coming of religion.
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by 1Sharon(f): 3:26am On Dec 03, 2021
bullabong:
At least you read where he talked of a certain"God"being worshipped even before the coming of Christianity. Igbos used "Chukwu" (God) as names before the coming of religion.

Are they worshipping that God right now?
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Ekealterego: 3:38am On Dec 03, 2021
IgbosDestroynSA:
Na Yoruba man even give this people Christianity! Damn.
Yoruba go far o.
Why we con de drag with this people.
Well we go soon colonize them. Na aid we go take colonize igboland
Although Crowther was great, but he didn't bring Christianity. Many missionaries from same Sierra Leone had worked in Igboland already. Rev Taylor (Igbo origin previously based in Sierra Leone) was working at Onitsha already and did a lot of research on the native religions and beliefs.

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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by ruggedtimi(m): 4:06am On Dec 03, 2021
Ekealterego:
Although Crowther was great, but he didn't bring Christianity. Many missionaries from same Sierra Leone had worked in Igboland already. Rev Taylor (Igbo origin previously based in Sierra Leone) was working at Onitsha already and did a lot of research on the native religions and beliefs.
I know for sure ajayi crowther was one of the first locals to spread Christianity across Nigeria.

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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by aribisala0(m): 4:27am On Dec 03, 2021
1Sharon:


Ajaji crowther was a house negro. It was wrong how he distorted Yoruba language in his dictionary.
Do not go around throwing abuse around .
You have absolutely no idea how people spoke over a hundred years ago. He wrote in the language of his time(his dialect) for the people of his time
.

Nothing stops you from improving his work. Do you know how many translations there are of the English bible ? Do people still use thou, thee , knowest , knoweth , thine when they speak in 2021.


He did a job without pay the like of which has not been matched.

You seat down after overdosing on eba and lazily call him a house negro. I guess you want to practise the phrase

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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by 1Sharon(f): 4:49am On Dec 03, 2021
aribisala0:
Do not go around throwing abuse around .
You have absolutely no idea how people spoke over a hundred years ago. He wrote in the language of his time(his dialect) for the people of his time
.

Nothing stops you from improving his work. Do you know how many translations there are of the English bible ? Do people still use thou, thee , knowest , knoweth , thine when they speak in 2021.


He did a job without pay the like of which has not been matched.

You seat down after overdosing on eba and lazily call him a house negro. I guess you want to practise the phrase

Language of time? BS. He was an agent of Christian propaganda and smear against Yoruba religion and it worked.


A job without pay? Seriously?

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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by bullabong(m): 5:19am On Dec 03, 2021
1Sharon:


Are they worshipping that God right now?
Take for example the names: Chukwunonso,Chukwuemeka, Onyekachukwu and so on .
Now will you tell me that these names started with the coming of Christian missionary? or God had already been discovered by the earliest igbo locals ?

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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by oyatz(m): 5:55am On Dec 03, 2021
FreeStuffsNG:

So the Aboh refers to Agbor? Very interesting. That's why identity is key. I remember that in my primary school in this same Lagos, we were taught where our kith and kins are. They have the map of Yorubaland and make us learn them.I realise that the system has started again with history back in the curriculum. Your cultural identity is important. There must have been a lack of reinforcement,unfortunately, Agbor has been reinforcing more of their non Igbo identity perhaps.
Without your contribution, I wouldn't have known that he probably referred to present day Agbor who are now regarded as Edoid. Thank you.


Both Aboh and Agbor are (two different things) are in Delta State

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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by oyatz(m): 5:59am On Dec 03, 2021
1Sharon:


Language of time? BS. He was an agent of Christian propaganda and smear against Yoruba religion and it worked.


A job without pay? Seriously?


What stops you from being an Agent of the Yoruba Traditional religion and write your book on Ifa or translate the Ifa Holy book into English, Igbo and Hausa languages?

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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Antivirus92(m): 6:07am On Dec 03, 2021
christistruth01:



Christians Brought to Nigeria

Cassava
Cocoa
Maize
Sweet Potatoes
Tomatoes

Can Nigeria do without these today ?
your ignorance is mind blowing,,
if all these foods are not native to africa then africans must have been eating sand in the olden days
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by oglalasioux(m): 6:19am On Dec 03, 2021
Guestlander:


Seriously, he took cassava to Iboland.

The Portuguese brought cassava to Igboland from Brazil and taught them how to make garri.

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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Nobody: 6:22am On Dec 03, 2021
Antivirus92:
your ignorance is mind blowing,,
if all these foods are not native to africa then africans must have been eating sand in the olden days

Actually he is right

1. Maize is native to Central America. It was brought here by the Portuguese in the 16th-17th century..and spread across the African continent.

2.Cassava also came here from South America. Brought in by the Portuguese.

3.Cocoa was also brought in AGAIN...by those Portuguese..this time in the 19th century from South America. Gabon was where they planted it first.

4.Sweet potato came in via the slave trade. (It's native to Europe, and the Americas...the first White American settlers were introduced to it by the Native Americans in the 17th century)

5.Tomatoes...again colonization too is very very responsible for bringing them here.....

Other foreign crops...rice, cocoyam, palmoil, cotton(cotton growing here started in the 19th century because of the American civil war).


What were we eating before these crops came here?

1.YAM...in all varieties.

2.Millet (been here since 2000 bc at the earliest)

3.Fonio....indigenous to these parts

4.Cowpeas/beans (something that black Americans consider a part of their cuisine even now)

5.Vegetables...a lot of vegetables, and also a lot of meat from wild and domestic animals..

6.FISH, snails, mushrooms

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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Guestlander: 6:31am On Dec 03, 2021
oglalasioux:


The Portuguese brought cassava to Igboland from Brazil and taught them how to make garri.

You are right, the Portuguese are known to like eba very much.

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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by christistruth01: 6:31am On Dec 03, 2021
oglalasioux:


The Portuguese brought cassava to Igboland from Brazil and taught them how to make garri.


Bishop Ajayi Crowther whom God used to take Cassava and Garri to Igboland was not Portuguese
There were thousands of Brazilian Yoruba returnee Slaves in Lagos and they ate Cassava and Garri


And you know there will be an Uproar if you don't see your Akpu and Garri for 3 days
your Governor would be Chased out of Office
And his Political Career will be finished

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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Ekealterego: 6:35am On Dec 03, 2021
ruggedtimi:
I know for sure ajayi crowther was one of the first locals to spread Christianity across Nigeria.
Make Una no rewrite history. J.C Taylor even opened the first church.

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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by oglalasioux(m): 6:39am On Dec 03, 2021
christistruth01:



Bishop Ajayi Crowther who took. Cassava and Garri to Igboland was not Portuguese
There were thousands of Brazilian Yoruba returnee Slaves in Lagos and they ate Cassava and Garri


And you know there will be an Uproar if you don't see your Akpu and Garri for 3 days
your Governor would be Chased our of Office

Far better than the stomach flu trigger called amala.

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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by christistruth01: 6:41am On Dec 03, 2021
Antivirus92:
your ignorance is mind blowing,,
if all these foods are not native to africa then africans must have been eating sand in the olden days


That is what Kanu and IPOB did to them

They don't even know it was the Christians that God used to save them from Hunger

And Since Cassava, Garri , Maize etc was taken to the East their Population has been Skyrocketing as a result of better feeding with ease of Cultivation

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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by christistruth01: 6:49am On Dec 03, 2021
Ekealterego:

Make Una no rewrite history. J.C Taylor even opened the first church.


J C Taylor was not even with Ajayi Crowther the first time he went to Onitsha
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Putindbutt: 6:58am On Dec 03, 2021
Ekealterego:
Although Crowther was great, but he didn't bring Christianity. Many missionaries from same Sierra Leone had worked in Igboland already. Rev Taylor (Igbo origin previously based in Sierra Leone) was working at Onitsha already and did a lot of research on the native religions and beliefs.
Rev. Taylor served under Crowther. Crowther spread Christianity to Eastern region, South West, Lokoja to Bida.

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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Putindbutt: 7:22am On Dec 03, 2021
1Sharon:


Language of time? BS. He was an agent of Christian propaganda and smear against Yoruba religion and it worked.


A job without pay? Seriously?

He was rather an agent of Education and Evangelism.

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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by christistruth01: 7:23am On Dec 03, 2021
backbencher:


Actually he is right

1. Maize is native to Central America. It was brought here by the Portuguese in the 16th-17th century..and spread across the African continent.

2.Cassava also came here from South America. Brought in by the Portuguese.

3.Cocoa was also brought in AGAIN...by those Portuguese..this time in the 19th century from South America. Gabon was where they planted it first.

4.Sweet potato came in via the slave trade. (It's native to Europe, and the Americas...the first White American settlers were introduced to it by the Native Americans in the 17th century)

5.Tomatoes...again colonization too is very very responsible for bringing them here.....

Other foreign crops...rice, cocoyam, palmoil, cotton(cotton growing here started in the 19th century because of the American civil war).


What were we eating before these crops came here?

1.YAM...in all varieties.

2.Millet (been here since 2000 bc at the earliest)

3.Fonio....indigenous to these parts

4.Cowpeas/beans (something that black Americans consider a part of their cuisine even now)

5.Vegetables...a lot of vegetables, and also a lot of meat from wild and domestic animals..

6.FISH, snails, mushrooms
.


Actually American Rice is a Native of West Africa

It was a Popular staple food especially among the Sierra Leonians and Wollof(Jollof Rice)

It went with the Slaves to America

It is the Popular food item Africa gave the rest of the World

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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by SlayerForever: 7:38am On Dec 03, 2021
Putindbutt:

Lol. It's rather appalling seeing ibos use one hand to discredit Crowther's account on one thread while accepting his account with the other hand on another thread. Typical ibos double standard.

cc; Alabo7978 JANK23H Oyatz

The only sentiments you harbour towards the Igbos is raw undiluted hate. It shows in all your comments that's why I don't bother arguing with you. Your mind is made up already. Go to hell with your comment.
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by ruggedtimi(m): 7:49am On Dec 03, 2021
Ekealterego:

Make Una no rewrite history. J.C Taylor even opened the first church.
read well my bro....AJayi crowther was the first African to preach about christianity to the Igbo people...About 8-10yrs later J C Taylor built the first church in igboland.

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Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by ruggedtimi(m): 7:50am On Dec 03, 2021
Putindbutt:

Lol. It's rather appalling seeing ibos use one hand to discredit Crowther's account on one thread while accepting his account with the other hand on another thread. Typical ibos double standard.

cc; Alabo7978 JANK23H Oyatz
this wasn't ajayi's crowther account, it was written by Sir William baikie
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Chigold101(m): 7:57am On Dec 03, 2021
SlyDev:
Then Ajayi Crowther then went ahead and write the first igbo language book. The man is a blessing to black people
And you believe this.

How could he had written a book in a language he doesn't understand?
Re: What Bishop Ajayi Crowther Said About Igbos After Visiting Igboland In 1857 by Nobody: 8:03am On Dec 03, 2021
Chigold101:

And you believe this.

How could he had written a book in a language he doesn't understand?


Yoruba have special brain

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