Igboid:
Development of the Onitsha Mission

"But to return to the work at Onitsha. The Rev. Taylor found himself busy preaching, teaching, visiting, building, healing, settling quarrels, studying the language and writing his journals. As already indicated, Taylor was helped in his pastoral work by Simon Jonas, the Catechist; there were also three Sierra Leone settlers in Onitsha who had come as traders, and along with other merchants resided at Laird's Port. (At this time Onitsha Waterside was known as Laird's Port.) This trading community gave much support to the missionaries. Taylor's first Sunday at Onitsha fell on August 2, 1857. He indeed felt that he was in a strange land, albeit the land of his ancestors: during the morning service his congregation numbered between 200 and 400, half-dressed men and women and naked boys and girls. The Sierra Leone traders from Laird's Port joined in the service and in singing the hymn "Jesus shall reign where'er the sun." Another service was held in the afternoon: to quote from Taylor's diary, "at half-past four p.m. I went to the King's Yard for Service... .His Majesty, King Akazua, with his captains and chiefs, were present. There were also present from 500 to 600 souls, all of whom behaved well... .The children laughed when we knelt down to pray." But "the conduct of the adults, on this occasion, was as orderly as one could wish, and they seemed much pleased with the attention given to their immortal interests."

It was Ajayi Crowther who took Taylor to Onitsha after Crowther went to Preach there years earlier
The Yoruba speaking Itsekiri had been interacting and trading with Igbos for Centuries so finding interpreters wasn't even a Problem

christistruth01:



It was Ajayi Crowther who took Taylor to Onitsha after Crowther went to Preach there years earlier
The Yoruba speaking Itsekiri had been interacting and trading with Igbos for Centuries so finding interpreters wasn't even a Problem

Crowther is a Yoruba man.
He can't preach to a people who doesn't understand him.
Stop being unreasonable.
Crowther was a mere figure head of the church.
As far as bringing gospel to Igboland is concerned ( and by this I meant interactions with the villagers), Crowther was as Useless as P in Psychology.
Anyone else could have done the administrative duties he was doing.
By the way, Crowther and Taylor were both working for CMS, yeah, by the ranking within the organization, Crowther was higher ranked,but Taylor wasn't Crowther employee, they were both working for the CMS, with Crowther working as more of an administrative officer, while Taylor with Simon Jonas were the foot soldiers, who thanks to their Igbo language can actually interact with Igbos in Aboh and Onitsha. So I don't get were you got the idea that Taylor was Crowther handbag.

Igboid:


Crowther is a Yoruba man.
He can't preach to a people who doesn't understand him.
Stop being unreasonable.
Crowther was a mere figure head of the church.
As far as bringing gospel to Igboland is concerned ( and by this I meant interactions with the villagers), Crowther was as Useless as P in Psychology.
Anyone else could have done the administrative duties he was doing.
By the way, Crowther and Taylor were both working for CMS, yeah, by the ranking within the organization, Crowther was higher ranked,but Taylor wasn't Crowther employee, they were both working for the CMS, with Crowther working as more of an administrative officer, while Taylor with Simon Jonas were the foot soldiers, who thanks to their Igbo language can actually interact with Igbos in Aboh and Onitsha. So I don't get were you got the idea that Taylor was Crowther handbag.

Even today in Igboland many Preachers use interpreters every Sunday


The Yoruba Speaking Itsekiri had been interacting and Trading with Igbos for Centuries , interpreters were not a Problem

Some Asaba Area People too Could speak Yoruba and Igbo, Yoruba People used to go to Asaba for Business

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Christistruth00:



Even today in Igboland many Preachers use interpreters every Sunday

Crowther never preached in Igboland.

Taylor and Simon Jonas did the preaching.

No need using an interpreter when you have capable hands that can do the work directly.
It's common sense.
Crowther was more of an administrative officer in Igboland for CMS.
The preaching and interactions with the locals were undertaken by Igbo slaves in Jonas and Taylor.

You lots are just suffering from inferiority complex, trying to assign to yourself a stupid tag of bringer of civilization to Ndiigbo.

Are you lots okay at all?

Christistruth00:



Even today in Igboland many Preachers use interpreters every Sunday


The Yoruba Speaking Itsekiri had been interacting and Trading with Igbos for Centuries , interpreters were not a Problem

No such Yoruba speaking Itsekiris was needed by CMS to bring the gospel to Igboland, not when they have brilliant and capable Igbo slaves from Sierra Leone to do the job.

Igboid:


Crowther never preached in Igboland.

Taylor and Simon Jonas did the preaching.

No need using an interpreter when you have capable hands that can do the work directly.
It's common sense.
Crowther was more of an administrative officer in Igboland for CMS.
The preaching and interactions with the locals were undertaken by Igbo slaves in Jonas and Taylor.

You lots are just suffering from inferiority complex, trying to assign to yourself a stupid tag of bringer of civilization to Ndiigbo.

Are you lots okay at all?

You are not saying any of this based on facts but because it is what you want to believe and what causes your ego the least distress. Your antagonist has his agenda which again is based on unknowable "facts"
We are talking essentially of unknowable things that happened over 100 years ago and you both talk as if you were there.

Ultimately you are motivated by a desire to preserve Ego integrity and you should observe yourself and your drives closely

aribisala0:


You are not saying any of this based on facts but because it is what you want to believe and what causes your ego the least distress. Your antagonist has his agenda which again is based on unknowable "facts"
We are talking essentially of unknowable things that happened over 100 years ago and you both talk as if you were there.

Ultimately you are motivated by a desire to preserve Ego integrity and you should observe yourself and your drives closely

Do you have evidence that Crowther could speak Igbo?
Nope!
Do you have evidence that Crowther preached to Igbos in Igboland? Nope.

All you are interested in is your foolish ego and stupidity to claim superiority over a people who you are no match to in any aspect of human development in the past present or future.

Get away you.

Igboid:


Do you have evidence that Crowther could speak Igbo?
Nope!
Do you have evidence that Crowther preached to Igbos in Igboland? Nope.

All you are interested in your foolish ego and stupidity to claim superiority to a people who you are no match to in any aspect of human development in the past present or future.

Get away you.

Nna

Where did I claim any of those things?
You are programmed to bark and bite for no reason

What I will say that is a fact is your people never evolved beyond the Umunna level of self organization or administration. That is why it was possible for smaller groups like the Itskekiri, Efik and Ijaw to sell you as slaves for centuries

Even today the typical Igbo man psychology is Umunna Psychology. That is the extent of your development.!! Nna

aribisala0:
Where did I claim any of those things?
You are programmed to bark and bite for no reason

What I will say that is a fact is your people never evolved beyond the Umunna level of self organization or administration. That is why it was possible for smaller groups like the Itskekiri, Efik and Ijaw to sell you as slaves for centuries

The Igbo had better organization level than your people could muster, reason the greatest resistance to colonial was in Igboland.
You need organization to fight a superior force like the British.
No Efik,Ijaw, or non Igbo could enter Igboland and return back alive in precolonial days.
Yoruba like you whose people were sold all over Americas as slaves by the Bini and Nupes (Tapa) has no stand to talk about slave trade.
But I'm not surprised, wisdom has never been your forte, which was why you finished yourselves fighting stupid kiriji wars and begged the whites to colonize you just to save you from your savage selves by ending the senseless wars.

christistruth01:


Bishop Ajayi Crowther was as indigene of Osogun near Iseyin in Oyo State


Cassava came to Nigeria from South America and Lagos had an entire Brazilian Quarters with thousands of returnee (ex) slaves

True... Cassava came to Africa from South America. However, yams are native to Africa, Asia, South America Yams and cassava were part of the foods used to feed captives on the notorious slave ships
based on the history books I've read.

Many returnee "formerly" enslaved
Yorubas from Brazil and Cuba in the 1800s settled in the Campos Square and Popo Aguda areas of Lagos Island.

Some of the Yoruba-Brazilian/Yoruba-Cuban returnees were the first adherants of the catholic religion in modern Nigeria, before French catholic missionaries first moved to Onitsha based on archival documents.

Nigeria's first pound millionaire was Candido Da Rocha. His Ijesa-Yoruba family returned from Bahia in Brazil in the late 1800s.

Many Yoruba returnees in the 1800s from Sierra Leone like Ajayi Crowther, and Desmond Elliot's
paternal ancestor, (or the Vaughan and Jackson families who returned to Yorubaland from the U.S. after first settling in Liberia) settled finally in the
Ebute-Meta and/or Olowogbowo area of Lagos Island.

wealthtrak:

True... Cassava and yams came to
Africa from South America. They were part of the foods used to feed captives on the notorious slave ships.

Many returnee "formerly" enslaved
Yorubas from Brazil and Cuba in the 1800s settled in the Campos Square and Popo Aguda areas of Lagos Island. Some of the
Yoruba-Brazilian/Yoruba-Cuban returnees were the first adherants of the catholic religion in modern
Nigeria, before French catholic missionaries first moved to Onitsha based on archival documents.

Nigeria's first pound millionaire, Candido da Rocha's Ijesa-Yoruba family who returned from Bahia
in Brazil.

Many Yoruba returnees in the
1800s from Sierra Leone like Ajayi
Crowther and Desmond Elliot's
paternal ancestor, (or the Jackson family who returned to Yorubaland from the U.S. after first settling in Liberia) settled finally in the
Olowogbowo area of Lagos Island.

Cassava and Maize came to Africa from Americas.
But Yam is Indigenous to Africa.

Igboid:


The Igbo had better organization level than your people could muster, reason the greatest resistance to colonial was in Igboland.
You need organization to fight a superior force like the British.
No Efik,Ijaw, or non Igbo could enter Igboland and return back alive in precolonial days.
Yoruba like you whose people were sold all over Americas as slaves by the Bini and Nupes (Tapa) has no stand to talk about slave trade.
But I'm not surprised, wisdom has never been your forte, which was why you finished yourselves fighting stupid kiriji wars and begged the whites to colonize you just to save you from your savage selves by ending the senseless wars.

Nna
I understand the need to make yourself feel good.
It is what it is

Umunna politics
Nothing more

You never evolved beyond the village level

There was NOT A SINGLE recorded town in your history. In fact your history is largely forgettable and that s why you are now claiming to be Jews

bullabong:
Take for example the names: Chukwunonso,Chukwuemeka, Onyekachukwu and so on .
Now will you tell me that these names started with the coming of Christian missionary? or God had already been discovered by the earliest igbo locals ?

Was it the Christian God?

Putindbutt:

He was rather an agent of Education and Evangelism.

An agent of colonization

aribisala0:
Nna
I understand the need to make yourself feel good.
It is what it is

Umunna politics
Nothing more

You never evolved beyond the village level

There was NOT A SINGLE recorded town in your history. In fact your history is largely forgettable and that s why you are now claiming to be Jews

We are evolved enough to teach your people better metallurgical methods.
See for yourself, we are your chi!
We were bringing civilization to you.

https://www.nairaland.com/6765286/early-igbo-sojourners-eastern-yorubaland

No be today.

aribisala0:


You are not saying any of this based on facts but because it is what you want to believe and what causes your ego the least distress. Your antagonist has his agenda which again is based on unknowable "facts"
We are talking essentially of unknowable things that happened over 100 years ago and you both talk as if you were there.

Ultimately you are motivated by a desire to preserve Ego integrity and you should observe yourself and your drives closely

Stop foaming at the mouth. Crowther never made that speech

Igboid:


Crowther never preached in Igboland.

Taylor and Simon Jonas did the preaching.

No need using an interpreter when you have capable hands that can do the work directly.
It's common sense.
Crowther was more of an administrative officer in Igboland for CMS.
The preaching and interactions with the locals were undertaken by Igbo slaves in Jonas and Taylor.

You lots are just suffering from inferiority complex, trying to assign to yourself a stupid tag of bringer of civilization to Ndiigbo.

Are you lots okay at all?

You don't know what you are talking about. History is what it is, not what you want it to be.

Igboid:


What history exactly, do you people drink Omo over there in SW?
Are you okay at all?

I posted historical facts that showed that Igbo slaves of Sierra Leone origin, ie Simon Jonas and Taylor bringing the gospel to Igbo villagers for CMS and Crowther doing just administrative work.
And you are here talking about History. Which history? Your beer parlour stories in Sagamu and Ogbomosho were you deceive yourselves that you brought the gospel to "Omo Ibo" and taught Omo Ibo their language in written form even when you can't speak the language?
If I got a dollar any time I hear Yorubas go about on how they gave Igbos written language, just because Crowther was an administrative officer for CMS, I could become a millionaire in dollars already. Una no dey shame?

You all have issues. Not to worry, I'm here to reset your brains.
The Igbo man has no interest in being part of Yoruba history, but you lots keep intruding into ours with your inferiority complex.

You are posting nonsense. Do you know more than the CMS about the early missionaries in Nigeria?
You have no interest in being part of Yoruba history! Like you have any choice in that. Perhaps you have the power to travel back in time and change the course of history.
You are posting crap because you are consumed by bigotry and inferiority complex.
A Yoruba man led the first missionaries to Iboland.
Wrote the first primer for Ibo language.
Translated the Bible to Ibo language.
Brought Akpu too.
You can rave and rant from here to eternity and these facts will never change.
Sorry you feel sad about this.

kingawothefirst:


Walai! Low key with minimal insults, just facts the south western way! Gotta love the sophisticated Yorubas!

Lol just lol

Guestlander:


You are posting nonsense. Do you know more than the CMS about the early missionaries in Nigeria?
You have no interest in being part of Yoruba history! Like you have a choice in that. Perhaps you have the power to travel back in time and change the course of history.
You are posting crap because you are consumed by bigotry and inferiority complex.
A Yoruba man led the first missionaries to Iboland.
Wrote the first primer for Ibo language.
Translated the Bible to Ibo language.
Brought Akpu too.
You can rave and rant from here to eternity and these facts will never change.
Sorry you feel sad about this.

You are suffering from inferiority complex.
Ajayi crowther was never able to speak fluent Igbo, but he could write Igbo primer.
Your head is not working well.

Wake up.

Simon Jonas is the one who wrote the Igbo primer, Crowther was a mere supervisor for CMS for the project.

You can't give what you don't have.

IgbosDestroynSA:

The same wey you colonize SA, Malaysia, Pakistan, Indian and the rest? You lots like to deceive yourself. With all years blacks take develop Us what’s their stake in it even till now? US is their home? You forget ghana must go? Na 20 pounds una go collect las las. And these time una go line up collect am we go snap everybody no be the one wey una go con de tell una children another thing
You are doing slavery in 2021 and you are proud?

wetin be this for Christ sake .

wealthtrak:

True... Cassava and yams came to
Africa from South America. They were part of the foods used to feed captives on the notorious slave ships.

Many returnee "formerly" enslaved
Yorubas from Brazil and Cuba in the 1800s settled in the Campos Square and Popo Aguda areas of Lagos Island. Some of the
Yoruba-Brazilian/Yoruba-Cuban returnees were the first adherants of the catholic religion in modern
Nigeria, before French catholic missionaries first moved to Onitsha based on archival documents.

Nigeria's first pound millionaire, Candido da Rocha's Ijesa-Yoruba family who returned from Bahia
in Brazil.

Many Yoruba returnees in the
1800s from Sierra Leone like Ajayi
Crowther and Desmond Elliot's
paternal ancestor, (or the Jackson family who returned to Yorubaland from the U.S. after first settling in Liberia) settled finally in the
Olowogbowo area of Lagos Island.

Yams did not come to Africa from South America.

Not true
Dioscorea cayenensis
Dioscorea cayenensis

Are NATIVE TO AFRICA

Were you a chef on a slave Ship?


How do you know they were fed yam?

Was it pounded yam or fried Yam?

Please do not say things that you just made up as if you saw a video

I know for a fact they were fed Indomie with Suya

Igboid:


No such Yoruba speaking Itsekiris was needed by CMS to bring the gospel to Igboland, not when they have brilliant and capable Igbo slaves from Sierra Leone to do the job.

Igboid get rid of the Pride and humble yourself so you can gain more understanding

How were your People able to communicate with the Lander brothers and other Europeans when they Traveled through your Area on River Niger since your Father's didn't understand or speak English ?

The same Yoruba Speaking Itsekiri were also the local experts in Pidgin English from Centuries of Trading with Europeans on the Coast and did all the interpreting for your Father's again

The Itsekiri had an Olu who had Studied in a European University in the 17th Century and his wife was Portuguese too

christistruth01:



I was referring to the East

There was a food Crisis in the East before Bishop Ajayi Crowther took Cassava there

When Cassava and Garri reached the East it became a Smash hit and a SuperStar

it’s finished

Igboid:


You are suffering from inferiority complex.
Ajayi crowther was never able to speak fluent Igbo, but he could write Igbo primer.
Your head is not working well.

Wake up.

Simon Jonas is the one who wrote the Igbo primer, Crowther was a mere supervisor for CMS for the project.

You can't give what you don't have.

You are free to revel in your ignorance.

backbencher:


Actually he is right

1. Maize is native to Central America. It was brought here by the Portuguese in the 16th-17th century..and spread across the African continent.

2.Cassava also came here from South America. Brought in by the Portuguese.

3.Cocoa was also brought in AGAIN...by those Portuguese..this time in the 19th century from South America. Gabon was where they planted it first.

4.Sweet potato came in via the slave trade. (It's native to Europe, and the Americas...the first White American settlers were introduced to it by the Native Americans in the 17th century)

5.Tomatoes...again colonization too is very very responsible for bringing them here.....

Other foreign crops...rice, cocoyam, palmoil, cotton(cotton growing here started in the 19th century because of the American civil war).


What were we eating before these crops came here?

1.YAM...in all varieties.

2.Millet (been here since 2000 bc at the earliest)

3.Fonio....indigenous to these parts

4.Cowpeas/beans (something that black Americans consider a part of their cuisine even now)

5.Vegetables...a lot of vegetables, and also a lot of meat from wild and domestic animals..

6.FISH, snails, mushrooms

go back and check the list of what he listed as not being native to africa and check who's wrong between him and i

Antivirus92:
go back and check the list of what he listed as not being native to africa and check who's wrong between him and i

You can check online.

Plus I am aware that maize and cocoa at least we're not native to these soils


Good evening.