Biafrarep:
It is not going to split again, ndi Yoruba self. For the sake of Lagos, Nigeria will not break again

Meanwhile, I heard from exclusive source that Fulanis have been begging Igbos to stop Biafra agitation and they promised Igbos presidency in 2023 and that herdsmen will also avoid SE.

These Fulanis are smart I must say, they've realized that only Igbos truly have what it takes to actually break Nigeria, that's why they're now trying to make peace with them. If they succeed, then forget it, this country will never break again

If truly only Igbos have what it takes to break Nigeria, how come Nigeria is not broken yet and please tell us what it takes to break Nigeria.

Nigeria can't split







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backbencher:
Nigeria is not going to split for the following reasons (my opinion)

1.The minority tribes don't want Nigeria to split. Sure, most minority tribes are not enjoying Nigeria, but splitting Nigeria leaves them exposed to the rapacious bigger tribes. No thanks.

2.The elite don't want Nigeria to split...especially those with business interests across the country

3.The political class don't want Nigeria to split. No chances to loot.

4.International community too doesn't want Nigeria to split...because 1) higher oil prices 2) refugees swarming their countries....

5.Even most secessionists on this site don't want Nigeria to split. They back secessionists because they want to scare the North out of power, not because they want to leave Nigeria.(Wait till election starts, and 90% of the Biafranists and OOduaists will be backing PDP. E get why.)

6.As one recent article on banditry reveals, the bandits themselves are not one unified group, fight among themselves, and create more problems for themselves than the country.

7.Did I mention that most secessionists don't want Nigeria to split, and that most of them are more interested in their side winning the power game, than secession? Secession to them is a last card to play when all hope is lost.

8. Splitting Nigeria now, is not as clear cut as it was in 1966-7. Old Biafra is split into two, and the South SOuth wants resource control, rather than splitting up

9.As much as Ibos and Yorubas scream loud and clear about 'WE CAN SURVIVE ON OUR OWN' the fact is, in the event of a split, and in the event of the South South refusing to join either side...the fact is, (and you can abuse me all day long, but facts is facts)...Iboland and Yoruba land cannot survive without oil money...and are just dependent on oil money as the Hausas, and the Middle Belt.

Or where do you think Ibo and Yoruba states get most of their revenue for budget from (apart from Lagos)? OIL MONEY.(Or why do you think no Southern governor stood up to contradict El Rufai when he made the comment about subsidy needing to go or governors won't have money for their budgets next year? If Southern states were standing on their own financially, they would have said that he is on his own. Their silence shows they agree with him).

10. Most of Nigeria does not rely on export of industrial products to survive. Thus in the event of a split, all the new countries, apart from the South South, would end up relying on agriculture...and even if the SOuth south goes with Biafra...oil. All these commodites have one thing in common...the price of all of them is set elsewhere.

And that means, that at the end of the day, Oodua and Biafra are going to be as debt ridden as many African countries. You think I am lying? Most African countries that 'rely on agriculture' are in debt, some even higher than Nigeria's own.

And even if Biafra gets 'the oil' with the SOuth south...the same thing applies. At the end...Biafra would be debt ridden.

We haven't talked about the North. Sure the North has 'mineral and agricultural resources...but at the end of the day, who is setting the international prices for all these resources? They don't live in Kaduna, and Sokoto, that's what I know.

11. Let's even talk about agriculture. Less than 10% of our agric is mechanized. If we want to compete on the international market....we would have a real battle on our hands. We won't get the right international price of our agric goods. Western farms, with their tech, better soils , better soil management, better farming practice, would run us into the ground.

Remember that most African countries who 'rely on agriculture' are debt ridden. (Ghana has a debt of 26 billion dollars, Burkina 4 billion dollars,Kenya 35.9 billion dollars)

12. In the event of a split...there would be war. And anyone who tells me otherwise should go and rest. There is going to be a fight over resources , and it would be neverending.

13. Of course, any new nation arising from Nigeria, in ten years is going to be broke and poor, is what I am trying to say.


Nigeria is a contraption, but the alternatives are far far worse.

Liar...

You are laz* unity beggar...

Why not try a referendum like was done in Scotland...if you are so sure.

Let the referendum be supervised by UN, EU and AU, and not the type of election done in Nigeria..

...and if the people of SE say No, then I will know you are right.

...but you know they are asking to leave, not because they want the north to give them power...besides what has the north done with the power they have had, more than any other region.

backbencher:


1.Who told you the South south would go with any side?

2.Who also told you that oil would remain profitable for any length of time?

3.Why are you interested in where the South south goes...if not that you are eyeing the oil money?

4.Who told you that the North, Ibo and Yourba would just let the South south go like that? They will fight , and it won't be pretty.

Splitting Nigeria is a fantasy. Nigeria is a mess, and a contraption, but so are most African countries, and splitting all of them is going to create a mess that you and i won't like.

Hmmm , you said that even if south south decides to join any side they will still run into debt which I responded to. So I no understand this ur epistle .

Redcrafton:


Liar...

That's your opinion

You are laz* unity beggar...

This type of abuse is getting old. Try better.

Why not try a referendum like was done in Scotland...if you are so sure.

Let the referendum be supervised by UN, EU and AU, and not the type of election done in Nigeria..

...and if the people of SE say No, then I will know you are right

The speaker assumes that

1.I am the ruler of Nigeria

2.I have absolute power and can do and undo

3.I am not only the maximum ruler of Nigeria, I have also suspended the constitution and can do and undo.

4.I am his legally elected representative to the National Assembly, empowered to pass rules, regulations and ammendments

5.He assumes I am all of the above at the same time

6.The speaker or Redcrafton is advised to contact his representative at the National Assembly, or failing which run for office, and get into office to pass the appropriate rules and laws making his dreams reality.

7.I cannot make his dreams a reality, as I am just an ordinary human being.

8.Redcrafton is also advised to petition his Supreme Being of choice for adjucation of his claims. If he persists in bothering me, I am to assume that he thinks I am his supreme being, at which I ask that my needs are minor...just one million naira in my account, and I'll think about it....more may be needed for me to get off my divine throne and much more may be needed to manipulate Buhari and his fellow Zom Bee followers into doing Mr Redcrafton's wishes..100 million may also be needed for me to move the UN, EU and company to fufil Redcrafton's dreams and desires. And I also take all forms of hard currency from the US, UK , EU, China and Japan. No other currency would be considered.

...but you know they are asking to leave, not because they want the north to give them power...besides what has the north done with the power they have had, more than any other region.

No one is stopping you. I'm not stopping you. But then again, I have no power over you or your tribe. If you think otherwise, see point 8 above.

Vichot:

Hmmm , you said that even if south south decides to join any side they will still run into debt which I responded to. So I no understand this ur epistle .

hee hee...good morning.

Rexwalters1:
Go & commit suicide, that is your best option.

Suicide (bombing) is your specialty in the north. Wouldn't want to take that from you

Vichot:

Oga any side the south south goes with can never be poor except if they choose bad leaders

How buoyant are the south south States right now. Are you going to wipe out the corrupt and selfish leaders?

backbencher:


That's your opinion



This type of abuse is getting old. Try better.



The speaker assumes that

1.I am the ruler of Nigeria

2.I have absolute power and can do and undo

3.I am not only the maximum ruler of Nigeria, I have also suspended the constitution and can do and undo.

4.I am his legally elected representative to the National Assembly, empowered to pass rules, regulations and ammendments

5.He assumes I am all of the above at the same time

6.The speaker or Redcrafton is advised to contact his representative at the National Assembly, or failing which run for office, and get into office to pass the appropriate rules and laws making his dreams reality.

7.I cannot make his dreams a reality, as I am just an ordinary human being.

8.Redcrafton is also advised to petition his Supreme Being of choice for adjucation of his claims. If he persists in bothering me, I am to assume that he thinks I am his supreme being, at which I ask that my needs are minor...just one million naira in my account, and I'll think about it....more may be needed for me to get off my divine throne and much more may be needed to manipulate Buhari and his fellow Zom Bee followers into doing Mr Redcrafton's wishes..100 million may also be needed for me to move the UN, EU and company to fufil Redcrafton's dreams and desires. And I also take all forms of hard currency from the US, UK , EU, China and Japan. No other currency would be considered.



No one is stopping you. I'm not stopping you. But then again, I have no power over you or your tribe. If you think otherwise, see point 8 above.

Utter rubb*sh..if you are only human and have no power...where did you get your power to postulate on what you have no slightest idea...
I smell grand hypocrisy....

Aufbauh:
I can't factor why people who are supposed to be carriers of good news, hope and bright future has turned their selves to doomsday preachers & naysayers.
May Nigeria succeed.

Buhari is a harbingar of Evil. Imagine if it's ibos or Yorubas that are killing, raping, and destroying people livelihood will Buhari be quiet ?

thesicilian:
Anything that can separate us from the cancerous North is welcome

Yet several reports suggest south east is a huge mega parasite

Redcrafton:


Utter rubb*sh..if you are only human and have no power...where did you get your power to postulate on what you have no slightest idea...
I smell grand hypocrisy....

Good morning to you too, good sir.

backbencher:



At the end of the day the new countries would be broke because

1.They rely on selling oil and gas and agriculture...whose prices they do not control, and whose prices they do not set. And I am here to tell you that the prices would never be at a level that can sustain anyone...including gas

2.Most Nigerians when they talk about 'business' think that it is all about selling imported stuff. Manufacturing....it's for the birds. (That's why your new countries would never be like South Korea. )

3.Nigerians also have a 'national cake attitude' to their economy. Split the country into how many countries...and that attitude will remain.

As an example, the reason why we don't have stable power is because, and I know people don't like hearing this...we don't want to pay the price for stable power. And I know that in the event of Biafra...Biafrans are going to ask for 'free power' or 'cheap power' because 'we have oil or we have gas, why should we suffer?'...and that's how the road to debt starts.

4.If anyone thinks that the rest of the country would let the South south alone with their oil...I've a bridge in London to sell you.

The only people in Nigeria that love and believe in free things is the North.

That's why Fulanis dont buy land when they migrate to a new community, and will never build good sustainable structures in their host communities. But Igbos are known to spend the highest amount in buying lands and building solid structures wherever they go to. Igbos dont have the culture of freebie like others, so no Igbo son or daughter will demand for free electricity under Biafra.



What Igbos always ask for is level playing ground for all to compete and excel at their own pace not getting freebies on plater of gold at the detriment of others you call countrymen.



Why would any region drag Niger delta crude oil with them, it is their land and their luck, it belongs to them and should be used for their communal development.



Honestly, a peaceful division of Nigeria or worst off, restructured Nigeria to function as united independent regions solely in control of their resources, security and welfare is the only way forward for Nigeria if not, Nigeria will continue to dance backwards from year to year irrespective of the person elected as President.

franchasng:
The only people in Nigeria that love and believe in free things is the North.

That's why Fulanis dont buy land when they migrate to a new community, and will never build good sustainable structures in their host communities. But Igbos are known to spend the highest amount in buying lands and building solid structures wherever they go to. Igbos dont have the culture of freebie like others, so no Igbo son or daughter will denand for free electricity under Biafra.



What Igbos always ask for is level playing ground for all to compete and excel at their own pace no getting freebies on plater of gold.



Why would any region drag Niger delta crude oil with them, it is their land and their luck, it belongs to them and should be used for their communal development.



Honestly, a peaceful division of Nigeria or worst off, restructured Nigeria to function as united independent regions solely in control of their resources, security and welfare is the only way forward for Nigeria if not, Nigeria will continue to dance backwards from year to year irrespective of the person elected as President.

Actually, all Nigerians love free things.

1.Most Nigerians don't want to have subsidy on petrol removed.

2.Most Nigerians don't want to have power companies set the price of the power they sell

3.Most Nigerians also want to have the government apparently 'regulate' the prices of food and gas 'for the masses'

4.Most Nigerians don't pay taxes...only 30-40% of Nigerians pay taxes for the rest of the populaiton.

5.Most Nigerians also think that when their son or daughter is in government, they should get freebies.

6.Most Nigerians also refuse and resist the idea of tolls on roads.

7. When the FCT was charging a parking ticket/meter...guess who got it stopped? Nigerians.

8.Even short term loans from loan apps...Nigerians won't pay as due, and would even share tips on how to avoid paying.


Stop blaming the Fulanis...and no it does not mean that I said you should not blame Buhari...because he has not done well at all. But Nigeria is not prospering because Nigerians think that there is a national cake we must eat from.

Aufbauh:
I can't factor why people who are supposed to be carriers of good news, hope and bright future has turned their selves to doomsday preachers & naysayers.
May Nigeria succeed.

Maybe he should have told you lies? Truth is good news. He said the naked truth.

backbencher:


Actually, all Nigerians love free things.

1.Most Nigerians don't want to have subsidy on petrol removed.

2.Most Nigerians don't want to have power companies set the price of the power they sell

3.Most Nigerians also want to have the government apparently 'regulate' the prices of food and gas 'for the masses'

4.Most Nigerians don't pay taxes...only 30-40% of Nigerians pay taxes for the rest of the populaiton.

5.Most Nigerians also think that when their son or daughter is in government, they should get freebies.

6.Most Nigerians also refuse and resist the idea of tolls on roads.

7. When the FCT was charging a parking ticket/meter...guess who got it stopped? Nigerians.

8.Even short term loans from loan apps...Nigerians won't pay as due, and would even share tips on how to avoid paying.


Stop blaming the Fulanis...and no it does not mean that I said you should not blame Buhari...because he has not done well at all. But Nigeria is not prospering because Nigerians think that there is a national cake we must eat from.

All what you listed are true and not just common to Nigerians alone but all humans.


It is the responsibility of government to chart the better course for the nation to follow and succeed.


Many Nigerians dont want to pay tax because the crude oil wealth being generated is being mismanaged by the government and on top that, they want people to still pay tax, for what?


When Nigerians travel to developed nations with accountable and responsible government, they pay tax and follow their laws.


If government show accountability and responsibility in managing whatever resources available to their disposal, by using it sincerely to better the life of their citizens, believe me, people will be glad to pay tax.


Nigerians are the only set of people that dont revolt against government whenever there is a price hike or sudden price increase, citizens of most nations wont take it, they will revolt.


The major problem with Nigeria and most African nations is that colonial masters lumped together people of diverse or opposing cultures, values, beliefs and lifestyle as one nation, which brought about ethno religious tuzzle and political favoritism within the ruling class and gradually this gave birth to sheer nepotism, corruption and clannish leadership style that have jeopardized black African nations from achieving communal progress.

backbencher:


Good morning to you too, good sir.

Whatever...

I am one of those those who believe segments of Nigeria will do better when power is decentralized.

I give you main example from the SE.

Are you saying that the FG roads in the east will be that bad if they were on their own? Or that they wont find money to build their airports to international standard, and also build rail networks?

Now they can't do these, as most of those items are in the federal executive list...and they have to wait for the FG who are heavily politicized to get this development across. You will see lowly informed people saying that you didn't vote for APC or PDP, bal, bla, bla.

I don't know if this makes any meaning to you.

backbencher:


Actually, all Nigerians love free things.

1.Most Nigerians don't want to have subsidy on petrol removed.

2.Most Nigerians don't want to have power companies set the price of the power they sell

3.Most Nigerians also want to have the government apparently 'regulate' the prices of food and gas 'for the masses'

4.Most Nigerians don't pay taxes...only 30-40% of Nigerians pay taxes for the rest of the populaiton.

5.Most Nigerians also think that when their son or daughter is in government, they should get freebies.

6.Most Nigerians also refuse and resist the idea of tolls on roads.

7. When the FCT was charging a parking ticket/meter...guess who got it stopped? Nigerians.

8.Even short term loans from loan apps...Nigerians won't pay as due, and would even share tips on how to avoid paying.


Stop blaming the Fulanis...and no it does not mean that I said you should not blame Buhari...because he has not done well at all. But Nigeria is not prospering because Nigerians think that there is a national cake we must eat from.

The embolden,is the more reason why power should decentralized as there won't be any national cake to loot.

If you loot in the east...the boys will show you pepper...

But you can't do that now, as the politicians will got o Abuja and get security to deal with you...

Just as Uzodimma is doing in the Imo state.

It will be a win win situation for all...

You have heard that Kano generate more IGR than all SE put together...so why can't the northerners support power decentralization.

Na lie sir. Just say "I want Nigeria to split before 2023" instead of camouflaging under prediction/prophecy.lol

OH...

Time will tell

Then let it split
all the country dishes out now is death upon death
insecurity has gone beyond the control of the Country

We told them to be careful of this change and next level they are looking for
but them no hear.
howfar now

Aufbauh:
I can't factor why people who are supposed to be carriers of good news, hope and bright future has turned their selves to doomsday preachers & naysayers.
May Nigeria succeed.

And you think, Nigeria as a shitty united country is goodness.....!

adenigga:


Source: https://punchng.com/Nigeria-may-split-before-2023-elections-Onaiyekan

we know, let the bullion van thief and drug barons be running here and there, he may not even witness the election. Greedy old hags. After what Buhari did to this Nation, we will never embrace another weakling

thesicilian:
Anything that can separate us from the cancerous North is welcome

We were not meant to be together in the first place cos they never trusted us. Now they have given us countless reasons not to trust them

I pray it does oh

Aufbauh:
I can't factor why people who are supposed to be carriers of good news, hope and bright future has turned their selves to doomsday preachers & naysayers.
May Nigeria succeed.

you can might not have sense again

Okay sir

Another delusional religious fanatic spewing rubbish as usual.

restructuring and coming up with a new constitution is ideal.

Aufbauh:
I can't factor why people who are supposed to be carriers of good news, hope and bright future has turned their selves to doomsday preachers & naysayers.
May Nigeria succeed.

Is Nigeria the shit hole working for you ?

backbencher:
Nigeria is not going to split for the following reasons (my opinion)

1.The minority tribes don't want Nigeria to split. Sure, most minority tribes are not enjoying Nigeria, but splitting Nigeria leaves them exposed to the rapacious bigger tribes. No thanks.

2.The elite don't want Nigeria to split...especially those with business interests across the country

3.The political class don't want Nigeria to split. No chances to loot.

4.International community too doesn't want Nigeria to split...because 1) higher oil prices 2) refugees swarming their countries....

5.Even most secessionists on this site don't want Nigeria to split. They back secessionists because they want to scare the North out of power, not because they want to leave Nigeria.(Wait till election starts, and 90% of the Biafranists and OOduaists will be backing PDP. E get why.)

6.As one recent article on banditry reveals, the bandits themselves are not one unified group, fight among themselves, and create more problems for themselves than the country.

7.Did I mention that most secessionists don't want Nigeria to split, and that most of them are more interested in their side winning the power game, than secession? Secession to them is a last card to play when all hope is lost.

8. Splitting Nigeria now, is not as clear cut as it was in 1966-7. Old Biafra is split into two, and the South SOuth wants resource control, rather than splitting up

9.As much as Ibos and Yorubas scream loud and clear about 'WE CAN SURVIVE ON OUR OWN' the fact is, in the event of a split, and in the event of the South South refusing to join either side...the fact is, (and you can abuse me all day long, but facts is facts)...Iboland and Yoruba land cannot survive without oil money...and are just dependent on oil money as the Hausas, and the Middle Belt.

Or where do you think Ibo and Yoruba states get most of their revenue for budget from (apart from Lagos)? OIL MONEY.(Or why do you think no Southern governor stood up to contradict El Rufai when he made the comment about subsidy needing to go or governors won't have money for their budgets next year? If Southern states were standing on their own financially, they would have said that he is on his own. Their silence shows they agree with him).

10. Most of Nigeria does not rely on export of industrial products to survive. Thus in the event of a split, all the new countries, apart from the South South, would end up relying on agriculture...and even if the SOuth south goes with Biafra...oil. All these commodites have one thing in common...the price of all of them is set elsewhere.

And that means, that at the end of the day, Oodua and Biafra are going to be as debt ridden as many African countries. You think I am lying? Most African countries that 'rely on agriculture' are in debt, some even higher than Nigeria's own.

And even if Biafra gets 'the oil' with the SOuth south...the same thing applies. At the end...Biafra would be debt ridden.

We haven't talked about the North. Sure the North has 'mineral and agricultural resources...but at the end of the day, who is setting the international prices for all these resources? They don't live in Kaduna, and Sokoto, that's what I know.

11. Let's even talk about agriculture. Less than 10% of our agric is mechanized. If we want to compete on the international market....we would have a real battle on our hands. We won't get the right international price of our agric goods. Western farms, with their tech, better soils , better soil management, better farming practice, would run us into the ground.

Remember that most African countries who 'rely on agriculture' are debt ridden. (Ghana has a debt of 26 billion dollars, Burkina 4 billion dollars,Kenya 35.9 billion dollars)

12. In the event of a split...there would be war. And anyone who tells me otherwise should go and rest. There is going to be a fight over resources , and it would be neverending.

13. Of course, any new nation arising from Nigeria, in ten years is going to be broke and poor, is what I am trying to say.


Nigeria is a contraption, but the alternatives are far far worse.

You are a good analyst .