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Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Dranoid: 8:19pm On Dec 13, 2021
StJohnofChrist:
You are what you are in your beliefs because of what you digested too.
This is how man was designed to function. You can't obtain enlightenment outside an influence.
exactly, so if you are right and the Christian God is real, the person you quoted would be punished due to no fault of his but his 'design'
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by 1Sharon(f): 8:20pm On Dec 13, 2021
Karleb:
Funny thing about this is; your son will most likely become an atheist in the future when he remembers that he didn't actually answer the boy's questions.

His son will become a Muslim.

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Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Farki: 8:20pm On Dec 13, 2021
StJohnofChrist:
At the first bolded, wrong.
The proof of both are evident.


Ok prove the existence of God.



At the second bolded, don't generalise on the "ruling class" as some of the ruling class believe in a God and some do not.

It's always a cliché to say such things but that doesn't make them true.
Marx was wrong.


Now you're just being plain dishonest.

Ever since humans could write, religion has been inseparable from the ruling class.

Priests and Kings would work together to define what was right or wrong until the American and French revolutions introduced the idea of separation of church and state.

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Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Martinez39s(m): 8:20pm On Dec 13, 2021
ford101:
with all wat you wrote,your son is a fool.
grin grin grin

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Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by FlipModeSquade(m): 8:21pm On Dec 13, 2021
BePrepared:


How do u dream and see yourself doing stuff

And maybe later the dream comes to pass
Dreams comes to pass?

Dreams are a reflection of your subconscious..

Whether it comes to pass or not..

Depends on the dreamer..

If you are a superstitious being..

It's a matter of fitting the events of your life..

To fit into an interpretation of your dream..

Have you ever wondered?

Why it is only those who believe in dreams?

That their dreams always come true.. sad

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Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by 1Sharon(f): 8:21pm On Dec 13, 2021
safarigirl:
LOL

I'm just concerned that you people have so heavily indoctrinated kids that you are coming here to brag about them arguing over something they barely have their own ideas of.


Basically, both your son and the atheist Greek boy are parroting whatever narratives they have been fed by their parents, not even things they have studied and have a proper understanding of.

They are kids, their ideas are not even theirs.

This thread is just weird
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Nobody: 8:22pm On Dec 13, 2021
This affirms to the fact that God designed man to seek him, of course, I understand the concept of perception differs but I can assure you there's one True God. The father of my Lord Jesus Christ.
Seek and you'll find him.

Acts 17:22-28 Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious.
For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.
God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
ratiken:


If this is your true definition of atheism, then neither you nor your son is anywhere near smart. You have some more learning to do.

Atheism is too diversified to fit into a simple spectrum. Most atheist agree that there is a force behind creation and everything surrounding our existence but do not agree with the narrative or attempts by religious organisations to fit or describe that force to the bible or Koran definition of God.

As a Christian, you really and truly believe that the Christian God will throw all non-christians to hell even when they had no role to play in being born into non-christian homes.... and that means all moslems, buddhist, traditionalists etc and even our African fore fathers who died before Christianity came

How does this make sense to any sane mind?
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Nobody: 8:22pm On Dec 13, 2021
DannyWalker:
oga go and sit down jor... Just pray make your smart son no go turn gay tomorrow grin


If he is smart like you claim, at certain age he will stop going to church, I won't tell you why, he will tell you himself... I also believe in God but don't praise your child too much, he is just a boy that is very vulnerable to deception or manipulations so better calm down...

Ironically we have taken trips as a family which resulted in us not being able to go to Church for a while but often find him watching an online Sermon on his tablet. He knows when to tune in even when not there in person.

Going to Church is not a rule of thumb in my household. It is a choice you make because you love your mom and dad and love the life they live. So it's not a case of do as I say and not as I do. It's a life of exemplary living smiley

He already knows that despite my going to Church he has a very smart Dad so if Church never corroded my intelligence .... He is good.

Thank you for your concern

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Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Martinez39s(m): 8:24pm On Dec 13, 2021
1Sharon:
Greek boy with the name Ethan?

Why must you religious people lie to prove a point?
If the op is lying, then I would say he is lying for Jesus. wink

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Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Nobody: 8:27pm On Dec 13, 2021
Oyiboman69:
In your learned oppinion...what is the difference between the brain and the mind?....

You can touch the brain right? Can you touch the mind or even see it?

To me the brain is the organ for the mind just as the lungs are the organs for respiration.

Same way the lungs only Channel the already existing air outside it for its own use is same way the mind channels the organ of the brain for its own use but is not bound by the brain same way the lungs cannot bind the air it utilizes.

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Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Mom007(f): 8:32pm On Dec 13, 2021
Tetehjewels:


smiley We are actually singing "Love runs deeper than words" now. The song by Lloyiso for Disney Channel. He loves that song like crazy and sings it word for word. Now I am addicted to it too cheesy
Wow. I like that song too. The tune is haunting...

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Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Havertz10: 8:33pm On Dec 13, 2021
Tetehjewels:


Ironically we have taken trips as a family which resulted in us not being able to go to Church for a while but often find him watching an online Sermon on his tablet. He knows when to tune in even when not there in person.

Going to Church is not a rule of thumb in my household. It is a choice you make because you love your mom and dad and love the life they live. So it's not a case of do as I say and not as I do. It's a life of exemplary living smiley

He already knows that despite my going to Church he has a very smart Dad so if Church never corroded my intelligence .... He is good.

Thank you for your concern
the real irony is the fact that if you were a Muslim and similar scenarios presented themselves, he would equally tune in to bbc hausa

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Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by 1Sharon(f): 8:34pm On Dec 13, 2021
GoodIsGod:


You get time to dey explain to these guys.
There is no amount of explanation that can free the mind of an atheist. He will keep singing same song because they can't feel what you feel. Until they can feel what you feel spiritually that's when it would occur to them that a God exists.

Remember the bible verse,
"A fool says in his heart that there is no God" then save yourself the stress of arguing with an atheist. It is fruitless

Even the fool knows
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by sylve11: 8:34pm On Dec 13, 2021
johnydon22:


In what planet did your son win the argument? First, your son tried to establish feeling as a basis for God's existence, committing the first blunder of mistaking emotions to somehow infer objective existence of an entity.

Then even though your son tried to establish feelings as a basis for the existence of God, he also agreed he never felt God but rather thinks about God a lot, how on earth is thinking about something a pointer that it exists in reality?

Thinking only alludes to conceptual existence not actual.

Example: Dragons does not exist because we think about them a lot, Captain America do not exist because we think of him a lot, the avengers do not exist because they awake intense emotions (feelings) in us whenever we read about their fictitious heroic deeds in comics or movies.

Conceptually, these fictitious ideas exist, in reality, they do not.

Your son strawmaned the other kids argument, based his on a faulty premise and just talked over the other kid.

There is absolutely nothing smart about your fictitious son, bring out your arguments proudly instead of trying to heap them on an eight year old that exists only in your imaginations.

The op won't like this. sad shocked cool
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Solofresh2: 8:36pm On Dec 13, 2021
StJohnofChrist:
You are what you are in your beliefs because of what you digested too.
This is how man was designed to function. You can't obtain enlightenment outside an influence.
You are wrong!
Don't bother quoting me again because I won't reply you
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Nobody: 8:36pm On Dec 13, 2021
Mom007:

Wow. I like that song too. The tune is haunting...

grin cheesy The things kids put us through. It's almost like they have this uncanny way of making you feel guilty seeing them have all that fun and joy if you don't join in cheesy
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Nobody: 8:38pm On Dec 13, 2021
Havertz10:
the real irony is the fact that if you were a Muslim and similar scenarios presented themselves, he would equally tune in to bbc hausa

Well that would still be his Choice to make. I do not dwell on assumptions for my Kid and you shouldn't either. That would be a whole other level of desperate for you.

Take this analogy and apply it to yours if and when you find yourself in my shoes.

Thank you smiley
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Oyiboman69: 8:38pm On Dec 13, 2021
Tetehjewels:


You can touch the brain right? Can you touch the mind or even see it?

To me the brain is the organ for the mind just as the lungs are the organs for respiration.

Same way the lungs only Channel the already existing air outside it for its own use is same way the mind channels the organ of the brain for its own use but is not bound by the brain same way the lungs cannot bind the air it utilizes.
to me there is absolutely nothing as such...the mind ,conscience and all are just words used to identity some functions of the brain which are named that way.

In addition, if someone thinks or act well,they say he has a sound mind which are all the work of the brain. Besides, a mad man also has brain which he also uses. so,mind is a word while the brain is the ultimate....
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Havertz10: 8:38pm On Dec 13, 2021
GoodIsGod:


You get time to dey explain to these guys.
There is no amount of explanation that can free the mind of an atheist. He will keep singing same song because they can't feel what you feel. Until they can feel what you feel spiritually that's when it would occur to them that a God exists.

Remember the bible verse,
"A fool says in his heart that there is no God
then save yourself the stress of arguing with an atheist. It is fruitless
the bible justifies it's central character with that statement and it's used to retroactively validate not just the bible but the character that the same bible promotes

cheesy cheesy the bible is justifying itself by itself, at some point we as humans will have to agree that believing in a god is testament to foolishness and I will die on that hill
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by BlueAngel444: 8:39pm On Dec 13, 2021
Corea4king:
Please,when will human beings transform to another species, according to science?
lol, I am waiting for my superpowers through evolution o
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by omoadeleye(m): 8:40pm On Dec 13, 2021
johnydon22:


In what planet did your son win the argument? First, your son tried to establish feeling as a basis for God's existence, committing the first blunder of mistaking emotions to somehow infer objective existence of an entity.

Then even though your son tried to establish feelings as a basis for the existence of God, he also agreed he never felt God but rather thinks about God a lot, how on earth is thinking about something a pointer that it exists in reality?

Thinking only alludes to conceptual existence not actual.

Example: Dragons does not exist because we think about them a lot, Captain America do not exist because we think of him a lot, the avengers do not exist because they awake intense emotions (feelings) in us whenever we read about their fictitious heroic deeds in comics or movies.

Conceptually, these fictitious ideas exist, in reality, they do not.

Your son strawmaned the other kids argument, based his on a faulty premise and just talked over the other kid.

There is absolutely nothing smart about your fictitious son, bring out your arguments proudly instead of trying to heap them on an eight year old that exists only in your imaginations.


The boy is not smart at all, i even thought that the conversation will contain some stuffs about intelligence but no, just full of asinine. The son is not that bright and must have taken this from the parent that posted this.

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Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by lexy2014: 8:41pm On Dec 13, 2021
Havertz10:
the observable universe is vast, we have understood it's workings, it's why we send robots to other planets, it's length and breadth isn't even quantifiable because at the end of the day, there is no up or down, that perspective only functions on earth, like minded people are striving to understand the universe, so we can conquer it and explore its galaxies but religious people are cowards holding back civilization



If u say d observable universe is vast, how vast is it? Can u give me a dimension? If d observable universe is vast, what of d unobservable universe? How many galaxies have we?

How have u understood d workings of d vast universe? If u have understood it, how come u are yet to conquer it? How can u conquer something that u say is unquantifiable? If u have understood d universe as u claim, how come u "are striving to understand the universe"?

How can u be sending robots to explore what u say u have understood? How are religious people preventing u from getting to d ends of d universe? Did they tie your hands and your legs?
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Havertz10: 8:41pm On Dec 13, 2021
Tetehjewels:


Well that would still be his Choice to make. I do not dwell on assumptions for my Kid and you shouldn't either. That would be a whole other level of desperate for you.

Take this analogy and apply it to yours if and when you find yourself in my shoes.

Thank you smiley
I will dwell, my parents wasted the best parts of my formative years, feeding me psychological shittt and I shouldn't be desperate to save my son from such a pointless waste of human resources

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Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by 1Sharon(f): 8:41pm On Dec 13, 2021
MufasaLion:
None of my business. See how he kept screaming "My son" like he's won a jackpot.

As if the boy is made of gold grin

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Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Nobody: 8:42pm On Dec 13, 2021
Havertz10:
I will dwell, my best wasted the best parts of my formative years, feeding me psychological shittt and I shouldn't desperate to save my son from such pointless waste of human resources

Key word YOUR SON and not mine. Good luck when you get to that phase of your life. Till then, thank you for your unsolicited concern smiley
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by 2mNaira: 8:43pm On Dec 13, 2021
Bluezy13:

In a quick attempt to render invectives you ended up accusing me of writing "Atheism is belief in unbelief"; whereas I actually wrote "Atheism is a belief in unbelieve".
Your inability to decifer the difference between "belief" and "believe" subjected you to the "amazing confusion" as you rightly put it.
Perhaps you should consult your 8 years old son..., Don't you think


Mister, in that sentence your grammar is incorrect.His interpretation is correct. You cannot belief in... You can only believe in. You are using a noun like a verb. Indeed beautiful confusion.

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Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Franking: 8:45pm On Dec 13, 2021
Anyone who says God exists isn't smart.

There's no God anywhere.

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Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by BlueAngel444: 8:46pm On Dec 13, 2021
Solofresh2:
You are spoiling that boy's psychological well being. You might not know now but the future of that boy will tell.
To be honest, you both are ignorant about God existence and you are polluting that boy's knowledge because this is not the time for him to focus on this type of things.
You People think you know God but you don't know even what God truely means and you can never know because you humans we are of the flesh.So you think the little you know is the ultimate Knowledge about God which is wrong.
tetehjewels no listen to this one o

Train up a child in the right way, from kekere o, there is nothing like not the right time for proper upbringing.


Now mister Oga, what do you know about God?
Those the fact one doesn't know mean others don't?
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Sapiosexuality(m): 8:46pm On Dec 13, 2021
StJohnofChrist:
The possibility that you didn't understand the bible after reading certain portions of it.
And didn't care to seek an explanation.

That a loving father casts people into hell to burn forever.
I don't have strength. I'm done with NL arguments. I only want to milk this place now. Thank you.
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Havertz10: 8:47pm On Dec 13, 2021
Tetehjewels:


Key word YOUR SON and not mine. Good luck when you get to that phase of your life. Till then, thank you for your unsolicited concern smiley
this is your problem, thinking singularly, your son is an active member of society, while his role might be minuscule, he is here and will be part of future generations of our society, telling you to do away with trash, Isn't an unsolicited concern, it's a public good for the betterment of the society
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by BlueAngel444: 8:47pm On Dec 13, 2021
Franking:
Anyone who says God exists isn't smart.

There's no God anywhere.
And where have you been to?

Well those ones may not be smart to you, but there are definitely not foolish but wise
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Nobody: 8:48pm On Dec 13, 2021
Exodus 33:19
“I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy” means God’s freedom to demonstrate mercy is not limited by anything but His own divine choice. God does not show mercy because humans deserve it. The Lord’s favor cannot be earned by status, social class, or works of righteousness, otherwise, it would not be mercy. It doesn't mean God is partial.
In fact, God has said he'll have mercy to whoever believes in his saving grace.

In Romans 9:15 Paul quotes Exodus 33 :19
In that context, God said that He would show mercy and compassion on whomever He so chose. The right to decide who received benefits from God was a decision left to exactly one being: God Himself. Paul offers this quote to show that God retains the right choose for Himself, based only on Himself, to whom He will give His favor. God is under no obligation, whatsoever, to rely on other criteria or some "higher" standard to make such a choice.
https://www.bibleref.com/Romans/9/Romans-9-15.html

Exodus 2:8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God. Not of works, lest any man should boast
BlueAngel444:
lol bro calm down, I would not say what you claim or assume I would say.

And also, lmao, God said He would be merciful unto whosoever He chooses to be merciful to.
If you say that's partial, ooo, oo, if you say He is unfair or fair, the question is are we better.. As to judge Him? cheesy


And who says God has no requirements for those he favors... Or wait.. Is it our stand up pulpit speakers grin

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