Tetehjewels:


Redirect your words at the right person who attacked my kid unprovoked. Show some righteousness

Blakjewelry:

Your anology is lame, it should be the Christian in fact I prefer the word a religious person that is standing at the other side of the door an can't find the handle. Most of us was once religious before we decided to seek for greater truth so we are the future and you guys living in the past, we have tasted both world, whereas you guys are scared to leave confort zone.

Tetehjewels:


Well to be honest with you, I could say that if someone's imagination could create the avengers or the Lord of the rings and make sequels out of them enough to entertain a cross section of the earth it can also be argued that an even bigger imaginative force could imagine the universe and bring it into existence to the service of the entire universe.

Your example could actually be a microcosm of a much larger template of imagination

1Sharon:


Wait, so you believe them ?

Tetehjewels:


Had my kid read through your comment twice and he looked at me with a smile after reading it the second time and asked me to really explain to him what an atheist is (what is an atheist) those were his words after I had told him an atheist typed that. So had to take a few minutes to explain the who and what of atheism.

He paused and then said "okay".

He now asked a question connected to your comment about feelings. He actually asked me the question but I will direct it to you instead.

He said,"Um Daddy when grandma left us did you feel sad?"

I said we all felt sad you know this.

He said did Uncle Dennis know Grandma before she left us? I said no he didn't (because Dennis is a new friend I just made from his PTA meeting for the new class and my grandma died 2yrs ago so he never knew me or her then.

He said if Uncle Dennis is told now that we all felt sad when grandma left us would he be upset at us?

I said I don't think so

He now said "why would someone get upset and argue my own feelings with me which I feel toward someone or something that makes me happy even if that person or thing does not exist?" He paused then continued

"I mean is it actually the non existence of that which makes me happy they are unhappy with or arguing about or they are arguing over my own feelings which are mine to have?"

"If I am happy over the thoughts about Grandma why should this be of any concern to anyone since to them they never met or knew or experienced Grandma right?"

Now it was my turn to smile. This kid has a way with his thoughts and words and the way he pauses, looks down and talks as if he is reading it from somewhere it was written on the floor baffles me.

So that's his Question to you. He asks questions a lot so expect more of that if you reply this..afterall he is just 8

Eifour:


Lol,well.The story of a baby raised by a wild animal,i haven't read that,though laughable,but i think you should write atleast the name of the researcher,i think that's a very good place to start.

The idea that man is born naturally a theist is not just an idea.....it's a fact.The same way we are born with sense of judgment as regards being right or wrong.The counter argument to this by atheists is that such intuitions are merely products of evolution,and this will lead to another contradiction.

If a child is raised in a moon the idea of God will always filter out. If one is raised in a moon and pushed down roughly in a moon by someone,such person will always consider the action wrong and hurtful

Tetehjewels:


Yet you branded it a lie. How truthful of you

Blakjewelry:

Why would I when history speak otherwise. The Jews of old have a lot religious documents. Majority of them didn't make it to the bible. You have the book of Adam and Eve, the book of Enoch, the apocryphal of Moses, the apocryphal of Abraham, just to mention a few infact they are thousands of them, and I love to read them whenever I get my hand on some.
And you can do well to apologize to the young man if you did insult his son, not cool

Blakjewelry:

find them and read you will it is not a myth.

1Sharon:


You said this:



"My son!" "my son!" Is his son made of gold?

OP is an arrogant twаt

Tetehjewels:


Had my kid read through your comment twice and he looked at me with a smile after reading it the second time and asked me to really explain to him what an atheist is (what is an atheist) those were his words after I had told him an atheist typed that. So had to take a few minutes to explain the who and what of atheism.

He paused and then said "okay".

He now asked a question connected to your comment about feelings. He actually asked me the question but I will direct it to you instead.

He said,"Um Daddy when grandma left us did you feel sad?"

I said we all felt sad you know this.

He said did Uncle Dennis know Grandma before she left us? I said no he didn't (because Dennis is a new friend I just made from his PTA meeting for the new class and my grandma died 2yrs ago so he never knew me or her then.

He said if Uncle Dennis is told now that we all felt sad when grandma left us would he be upset at us?

I said I don't think so

He now said "why would someone get upset and argue my own feelings with me which I feel toward someone or something that makes me happy even if that person or thing does not exist?" He paused then continued

"I mean is it actually the non existence of that which makes me happy they are unhappy with or arguing about or they are arguing over my own feelings which are mine to have?"

"If I am happy over the thoughts about Grandma why should this be of any concern to anyone since to them they never met or knew or experienced Grandma right?"

Now it was my turn to smile. This kid has a way with his thoughts and words and the way he pauses, looks down and talks as if he is reading it from somewhere it was written on the floor baffles me.

So that's his Question to you. He asks questions a lot so expect more of that if you reply this..afterall he is just 8

leofab:
what if grandma died in an attempt to kill him and he doesn’t know? Won’t Uncle Dennis feel bad if he is privy to the information of grandma’ intentions?

Blakjewelry:

Wanted to say it's all myth. He is enjoying his parenthood, at least give him that. I don't usually argue on this atheist and religious folks clash because it will lead to nowhere. I was once a Christian, back I am not you are going to say anything that will crack that shell. But right now I am perfectly fine were I am. History and and science informed my present state, right now I no longer afraid of anything not juju, not one big trumpet sounding to end the world. In fact I feel very peaceful, my girl who I love Walk out recently because of this religion matter, I know it's the one sacrifice she wanted from me but she knows I can live a lie, so I had to let her go wishh her well.

Tetehjewels:


Personal experiences cannot be consistent because it's not a science.

This is why it is Personal. This is why we have different time zones. This is why we live in different places. This is why we have different experiences. This is why we love different types of food. This is why you are where you are typing this and I am where I am.

There is no general laboratory for every experience.

I hope you understand why I had to itemize each experience above

TemmyT002:
Whatever kids learn, they learn from their parents.
Don't forget, anyone who says there is no God is a fool. No be abuse. Na fact.
The evidences are around you.
From the lakes to the oceans to the sun to the moon to your entire body to your brain to the different fruits and foods and vegetables and plants and animals and photosynthesis and sex and DNA. All these didn't create themselves.
DON'T BE A FOOL

Tetehjewels:


I don't know what you are on about. Atheists are generally against the existence of any God or spiritual essence so it's got nothing to do with my God.

Their anti-belief has birthed in them the desire to always look down rather than looking "up"

1MILLIONLiGHTS:


I always feel tired arguing with Atheists. A special Rehab should be organized for them... I PITY THEM.

am4truth:


Plenty cane await you from the Devil if you failed to give your life to Christ.

Sapiosexuality:
Religion is useful but a critical and philosophical look at the characters that make them up betray them.

I still don't understand how a loving father will throw you into hell fire to burn forever and ever for a crime (if it's even worthy to be called such) we committed in a very short span.

If your son is really as super smart as you say he is, he'd get to this point and experience crisis but that crisis will give him better vision.

Whether God exists or not is not really my problem. My problem is with the morality of God. Is this God good? Is she/he worthy to be God? Is /she/he upright?

Worksunlimited:


Blessed is he that hasn't seen but yet believes. John 20:29..

I believe in God, Jesus and the Holy spirit.

God don save me countless of times, I have seen death, survived and left people wondering how I did...

Nothing wey you fit tell me, The trinity exists..

Corea4king:
Please, when will human beings transform to another species, according to science?

LordReed:
Why do you think the only processes the universe has going on must repeat? And even if it does repeat your lifetime may be too small to witness a repeat.

You are asking for a magic trick. Not anything I have said or alluded to.

We don't know what kind of creatures will have evolved in 20 million years

LordReed:
unfortunately we won't be around to see it.

LordReed:
That is the nature of the universe.

LordReed:


How do you know an oyster desires?

Like I pointed out a brain is required for a mind, I didn't say a brain is needed for life. I think you are conflating the 2. Not all living things have brains and to imagine that because they live and respond to their environment that therefore have minds is stretching of what a mind means.

A mind is how we describe the totality of the higher cognitive functions. These cognitive functions we have evidence are taking place in the brain. Any living thing without a brain cannot have these higher cognitive functions and therefore cannot have a mind.

LordReed:


If a god exists and is revealing himself to individuals then either something is wrong with that method or with the individuals since they cannot agree on what they are experiencing.

Tetehjewels:


Prepared for what? An argument?

Not in the least interested. Every situation is an opportunity to learn and grow. It's the turn of my kid now.

Blakjewelry:

Your anology is lame, it should be the Christian in fact I prefer the word a religious person that is standing at the other side of the door an can't find the handle. Most of us was once religious before we decided to seek for greater truth so we are the future and you guys living in the past, we have tasted both world, whereas you guys are scared to leave confort zone.

leofab:
so who created the god ? I guess you are foolish enough not provide an answer?

Blakjewelry:

Always results to insult when you know you have nothing to offer. That is the tactics of small minds, using attack as means of defense. The knowledge I have is enough to crash your little brain. Why not come out with a valid point to counter what I have to say. I have read over a hundred non conical Jews text and historical decument and counting, when I was a Christian I have the bible from cover to cover, not even the pastor you run to for advice posseses half the knowledge I have so you don't shut your mouth only but your stupidity also.

Blakjewelry:

The Adam and Eve story predate the Jewish era. There is even a Jewish version that eve was not first wife of Adam but Lilith. The Jewish religion has dozen of text written over a long period of time, find them and read you will it is not a myth. So laugh at idiots professing their religion like it so special but it no difference every other myth out there like Zeus and odin

1Sharon:


Lol alot of people have lost their belief on this forum, myself included.
The atheists comment here really do make alot of theists think, just look at the ratio of likes on atheist Vs theists comments. 10 yes ago it wasnt like this.

But then to actually prove god exists or doesn't exist? Is a different matter entirely

hupernikao:


[s]Sis, don't celebrate this. It's still day. Most of those likes are from those I call untrained psychologist who camouflage as atheist. Those are people we have here. They are neither here or there. Move with the weather. Living a loud mouthed life but no conviction. Time is the test of such. Time breaks them, and instead for them to face it and brace up they find the next level, the next in-vogue.

We have seen them come (with their likes/share) and go in this same forum. Only that their unannounced going is usually to change account or become special guest viewers.

So, lots didn't loose their belief as you posit, they only get confused under life pressures and needed a cover to voice the confusion. NL is the cover, atheism is the slogan. [/s]

Tetehjewels:


You seem angry at a lot of things but certainly my Son or his little argument cannot be one of the things that has you all blowing hot.

First of all where in my OP did I remotely hint at my son winning the argument. I rather left it as anticlimactic.

I do know you are an atheist but then trying to indirectly bully my son through your comments with your choice of language is laughable and I am sure he would also laugh at this by the time I show him once he comes back from school.

I will type his response to you as he tells me because I want him to be the one to respond to you intellectually. That is how I got him to become smarter than those ahead of him and you certainly wouldn't be any different

Good luck with arguing with an 8yr old who knows how to hold his own any day of the week.