2 complete teams from Man Utd Chelsea and City

DDG
Dalot Telles Maguire Lindelof
Mctominay Fred Bruno
Sancho Ronaldo Greenwood

Henderson
Bissaka Bailly Varane Shaw
Matic Pogba VdB
Martial Cavani Rashford

extras Mata Lingaard
===============================================
Ederson
Walker Dias Laporte Mendy
Rodri KDB Gundogan
Mahrez Palmer Grealish

- Steffen
Cancelo Stones Ake Zinchenko
Fernadinho Bernado Foden
Sterling Jesus Ferran

====================

Mendy
Reece Silva Christensen Chilwell
---Kovacic--RLC- Barkley
Ziyech--Harvetz--Werner

Kepa
Azpi Rudiger--Chalobah--Alonso
--Kante--Jorginho--Mount
-Pulisic--Lukaku--CHO

Leyqute
Who are we missing from both Man Utd and Man City squad to determine the squad depth that Man Utd is lacking

Leyqute:


You don’t seem to understand me.

Being thin doesn’t mean just having bodies there. It’s about how many quality players they have there.

If you pick a first XI in the league, how many of those players will get into that squad?

How many of them will get into team B?

The only top midfielder Chelsea has is Kante. And he’s being plagued with injuries.

They are thin in midfield.

The first choice wingbacks are okayish- James and Chilwell. The rest have huge defensive frailties.

And thank God they have a coach that uses a system which masks those weaknesses.

We all know consistency is quality. I wouldn't want Gabriel Jesus as a top nine in my team, neither will you(I'm sure). That a team is consistent is what made them quality and that's on the coach
You say kante is the only midfielder in Chelsea team and that's because he is the only one dropping consistent displays, but if you delve deeply, kovacic was also giving that in the team, jorginho even tho he's like a weak link is still bringing ok displays. So that's on the coach. If you agree that tuchel is playing to his players strength and minimizing their weakness, same as Pep why then don't you think they deserve credit for making big their squad and also making them quality.

If tomorrow you people start consistently using Vdb, matic, bailey, lingard and all alongside your first 11, you'll find out that you have quality and depth as that of man city. Na so e be. I remember when zichenko and delph(midfielders) are playing full back position all the way to carrying league. People still call them quality depth. Today, nobody dey send delph for Everton

Na consistency be quality baba

Android17:
I did. Let your knowledge of venn diagrams or set theory come into play.

Leyqute:


After having KdB, Mahrez and Sterling, your guy bought Graelish for 100m.

Tell me who else has done that in the league and you’ll win a sponsored trip to Dubai.

Omo Baba olowo, send me 2 tickets na

Me and wifey

Jodera:
We all know consistency is quality. I wouldn't want Gabriel Jesus as a top nine in my team, neither will you(I'm sure). That a team is consistent is what made them quality and that's on the coach
You say kante is the only midfielder in Chelsea team and that's because he is the only one dropping consistent displays, but if you delve deeply, kovacic was also giving that in the team, jorginho even tho he's like a weak link is still bringing ok displays. So that's on the coach. If you agree that tuchel is playing to his players strength and minimizing their weakness, same as Pep why then don't you think they deserve credit for making big their squad and also making them quality.

If tomorrow you people start consistently using Vdb, matic, bailey, lingard and all alongside your first 11, you'll find out that you have quality and depth as that of man city. Na so e be. I remember when zichenko and delph(midfielders) are playing full back position all the way to carrying league. People still call them quality depth. Today, nobody dey send delph for Everton

Na consistency be quality baba

LooL. Jodera please be serious.

If it was about consistently playing players, Lingard would still be in United’s starting XI. So would Pereira. And Sterling would be undroppable if he was fit.

As a player, You earn an unshakeable starting position because of your quality. If a player always needs 10 games to find their rhythm, especially with a team that plays to their strength, their quality is questionable.

If United start using Lingard, Bailly and Matic consistently, na tears go end am.

Skimpledawg:

Omo Baba olowo, send me 2 tickets na

Me and wifey

LoooL.

Maduman

Trevor012:

Your opinions on Guardiola are very well documented. You called him a fraud and a chequebook manager . You even said he was failure despite all the trophies he has won at City. So why are you always triggered when United fans say the same thing?

He has failed the sheikhs because he has still not won the Champions League for them. This doesn't make him a failure and I believe it will be hard for anybody to replicate his achievements when he leaves City. Don't you think it's funny that a club fans of a club that has not even won ordinary Carabao in years should say anybody can do what he's doing? His team has scored 500 goals under him.

Trevor012:
See premium tears . Let it be known immediately after Pep left a coachless Barca achieved this. Tactical ingenuity in the mud . If you need tissue ask for one

Regardless of the side you are on, any brother who needs tissue can get in touch with brother Roland17. Thank you

raumdeuter:
2 complete teams from Man Utd Chelsea and City

DDG
Dalot Telles Maguire Lindelof
Mctominay Fred Bruno
Sancho Ronaldo Greenwood

Henderson
Bissaka Bailly Varane Shaw
Matic Pogba VdB
Martial Cavani Rashford

extras Mata Lingaard
===============================================
Ederson
Walker Dias Laporte Mendy
Rodri KDB Gundogan
Mahrez Foden Grealish

- Steffen
Cancelo Stones Ake Zinchenko
Fernadinho Bernado Foden
Sterling Jesus Ferran

====================

Mendy
Reece Silva Christensen Chilwell
---Kovacic--RLC- Barkley
Ziyech--Harvetz--Werner

Kepa
Azpi Rudiger--Chalobah--Alonso
--Kante--Jorginho--Mount
-Pulisic--Lukaku--CHO

Leyqute
Who are we missing from both Man Utd and Man City squad to determine the squad depth that Man Utd is lacking

I am also waiting for what he has to say

popizaino and raumdeuter once they see Pep slander....

Leyqute:
All these talks are unnecessary.

Your starting XI doesn’t determine if you’ll win the league or not, your squad depth does.

And City has that boku boku.

Last season VVD got injured and Liverpool started fighting for top 4.

If Salah gets injured now, e don be for them again.

You cannot say the same for City.

KDB has been injured all season but it hasn’t affected Pep. Now that he’s back, it’s almost certain that they’ll win the league again.

Cancelo missed the last game through suspension and Zinchenko easily slotted in.

No matter how you look at it, squad depth is the koko.

The best way forward is to compare quality OPTIONS for both managers. When you do this your your eyes shall be opened.

Pep guardiola is good no doubt, but it will be naive to put his success down to his supposed brilliance and ignore the array of talented players he has at his disposal.

That sums it up, if four regular players of city is injured they have more than enough alternative players that can fit into the team, that can't be said of other teams in the league, Pep is good but Klopp is better, but some Pep's stooge will not agree to dat . Pep can not and can never survive or achieve anything meaningful with low budget team like klopp has done over time and he's always lucky to coach the best team or the richest team in the league
Spain: Barca (as @ that time )
Germany: Bayern
England: Man City (money, Ego, Kudi) that's why people are taunting him that his next destination is PSG.

popizaino:



What squad depth was SAF having in his later years when he won the league? Stop nitpicking, Firmino might get injured today and Djota would slot in perfectly whilst pep does not have the luxury of doing so. There has been couple of games were salah missed and they won comfortably so stop blowing this salah thing out of proportion. Your club has been winning in the absence of a world class midfielder like pogba but you've never said you have squad depth for this same reason. Pep is an excellent coach and his winning has got nothing to do with any array of talents at his disposal but his tactical genius. Array of talent na him make Barcelona go chop 7-0 against Bayern Munich in 2013 just immediately pep guardiola left them.

wonderful

Joezinho:
These uncircumcised shekpites spend all day spewing trash on this thread.

But just one comment from a man utd fan on their thread and they go all ballistic and foaming from their mouths like epileptic fvcktards.

The likes of duncejazet that calls united fans 'trolls' because they comment on their miserable thread won't see his fellow shekpites here acting like dunderheads.

Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and consciencious stupidity...

MorataFC:
That sums it up, if four regular players of city is injured they have more than enough alternative players that can fit into the team, that can't be said of other teams in the league, Pep is good but Klopp is better, but some Pep's stooge will not agree to dat . Pep can not and can never survive or achieve anything meaningful with low budget team like klopp has done over time and he's always lucky to coach the best team or the richest team in the league
Spain: Barca (as @ that time )
Germany: Bayern
England: Man City (money, Ego, Kudi) that's why people are taunting him that his next destination is PSG.

completely unrelated to the argument but if Xavi wins the league with Barcelona this season will it be an achievement?

Android17:
I was trying to be patient with you but I guess you are offended because I have exposed your argument for its lack of merit and your only response is to throw tantrums? I just gave you the stats for said players just before they left to the present clubs and now that is not pre enough? Lol

Using goals to access DMs, how clever of you...

Mahrez achieved more with Leicester than Salah before joining Liverpool and Mahrez was a key player in that Leicester team...I don't understand what you mean when you imply Salah had a higher ceiling...

To win argument, una go turn logic on its head...

patrickmuf:
Using goals to access DMs, how clever of you...

Mahrez achieved more with Leicester than Salah before joining Liverpool and Mahrez was a key player in that Leicester team...I don't understand what you mean when you imply Salah had a higher ceiling...

To win argument, una go turn logic on its head...

Did Fabinho have less of the other valuable stats or will you change to say he played more games or that Monaco was more attacking than ATM when his other stats make him better? Let me also guess Mahrez achieved more because that supports the point you already were predisposed to accept as true?

Android17:
Did Fabinho have less of the other valuable stats or will you change to say he played more games or that Monaco was more attacking than ATM when his other stats make him better? Let me also guess Mahrez achieved more because that supports the point you already were predisposed to accept as true?

Fabinho started out as an attacking RWB at Monaco so, it's expected that his output will be greater...I don't even want to talk about the kind of football Atletico play.

Mahrez was one of the star player in that Leicester team that won the EPL. FYI, Leicester and Roma can't be played in the same bracket yet Mahrez won the EPL with Leicester, what did Salah win with Roma?

raumdeuter:
2 complete teams from Man Utd Chelsea and City

DDG
Dalot Telles Maguire Lindelof
Mctominay Fred Bruno
Sancho Ronaldo Greenwood

Henderson
Bissaka Bailly Varane Shaw
Matic Pogba VdB
Martial Cavani Rashford

extras Mata Lingaard
===============================================
Ederson
Walker Dias Laporte Mendy
Rodri KDB Gundogan
Mahrez Foden Grealish

- Steffen
Cancelo Stones Ake Zinchenko
Fernadinho Bernado Foden
Sterling Jesus Ferran

====================

Mendy
Reece Silva Christensen Chilwell
---Kovacic--RLC- Barkley
Ziyech--Harvetz--Werner

Kepa
Azpi Rudiger--Chalobah--Alonso
--Kante--Jorginho--Mount
-Pulisic--Lukaku--CHO

Leyqute
Who are we missing from both Man Utd and Man City squad to determine the squad depth that Man Utd is lacking

Shey you’ll collect Mata and Lingard and Martial and Matic and give us Sane and Muller?

That way you’ll have 2 extras and we won’t have any extra.

Raumdeuter

Pep should give us Bernardo Silva and Foden and collect McTomminay and Matic. We’ll also add Mata as cherry on top.

That way we’ll both have one extra.

Ojoro cancel ojoro.

patrickmuf:
Fabinho started out as an attacking RWB at Monaco so, it's expected that his output will be greater...I don't even want to talk about the kind of football Atletico play.

Mahrez was one of the star player in that Leicester team that won the EPL. FYI, Leicester and Roma can't be played in the same bracket yet Mahrez won the EPL with Leicester, what did Salah win with Roma?

He scored 1 goal in the 26 appearances he made as a defender - center back/wingback role he had at Monaco. He scored 22 in 102 playing as a DM that is why he is a DM today. It seems you are replying without reading me. Mahrez played 2 more seasons after his team won the EPL. It was those same 2 seasons Salah had for Roma. Riyad had 18 goals in 72 games while Salah had 29 in 65 games. Do you now see why I asked the man you are trying to help out when we should start recognizing the Pre Club version of the player? Otherwise I am allowed to select Salah in Basel (doing big things even in the UCL) while Riyadh was languishing in Le Havre II.

Fraudiola for a reason.

A40:

I won't deny I was pro-Pep when he came in fact I recall the grueling arguments I had here with Nitlad where we argued extensively and he warned me. I was unhappy with the way we sidelined Don Jupp, but we were getting Pep it would be worth it we all thought

However I started seeing cracks when he brought that 4-1-4-1 nonsense. After seeing us in the knockout stages of the CL no well meaning Bayern fan was comfortable with our style of play! I had issues with Pep from the very first season because I always saw us losing the same damn way. Mauling small fry like Porto, Donetsk, losing badly to Barça, Madrid and looking outclassed while at it. You can argue with my choice of words and tag it like hyperbole but this is the normal response to Fraudiola apostles who think the sun shines from his behind.

A40:


Your Pep Fraudiola took us from defending Champions to disgrace. Which we haven't fully recovered from.

He will end up in China in a few years. O ti sure ju

raumdeuter:


Pep played 11 vs 11 and lost 4-0 at home

Carlo played 10 vs 11 and lost 1-2 at home

Spot the difference

Leyqute:



Shey you’ll collect Mata and Lingard and Martial and Matic and give us Sane and Muller?

That way you’ll have 2 extras and we won’t have any extra.

Sane and Muller are 2 starters why will anyone swap them with bench option

The list I showed you shows the 3 teams have enough players for depth unlike what you are trying to claim like only Cty has depth

Leyqute:
Raumdeuter

Pep should give us Bernardo Silva and Foden and collect McTomminay and Matic. We’ll also add Mata as cherry on top.

That way we’ll both have one extra.

Ojoro cancel ojoro.

Pep upgraded those players into wat you are jealous of. If your coaches had worked on the talents you have too you wont be saying the same

You are talking about Matic yet he is way younger than Fernadinho that Pep uses sometimes

Android17:
He scored 1 goal in the 26 appearances he made as a defender - center back/wingback role he had at Monaco. He scored 22 in 102 playing as a DM that is why he is a DM today. It seems you are replying without reading me. Mahrez played 2 more seasons after his team won the EPL. It was those same 2 seasons Salah had for Roma. Riyad had 18 goals in 72 games while Salah had 29 in 65 games. Do you now see why I asked the man you are trying to help out when we should start recognizing the Pre Club version of the player? Otherwise I am allowed to select Salah in Basel (doing big things even in the UCL) while Riyadh was languishing in Le Havre II.

Roma and Leicester are not comparable in a bit, Roma are a regular top 4 team while Leicester City...

At this point, I'll leave you to your opinion...I know when someone is deliberately stubborn in a bit to win an argument, it's the exact point I quit...

raumdeuter:


Sane and Muller are 2 starters why will anyone swap them with bench option

The list I showed you shows the 3 teams have enough players for depth unlike what you are trying to claim like only Cty has depth

I’m not saying the other teams don’t have depth.

I’m saying City has the best depth.

raumdeuter:


Pep upgraded those players into wat you are jealous of. If your coaches had worked on the talents you have too you wont be saying the same

You are talking about Matic yet he is way younger than Fernadinho that Pep uses sometimes

Pep upgraded Sterling, Cancelo, Stones, Fernandinho, Bernardo Silva.

Why did they cost more than 200m altogether?

And how many of those players were from City’s academy?

Raumdeuter let’s exchange City’s team B wirh United’s team B.

No need for long thing.

We’ll also dash them Mata and Lingard as Jara and fisi

Leyqute:


Pep upgraded Sterling, Cancelo, Stones, Fernandinho, Bernardo Silva.

Why did they cost more than 200m altogether?

And how many of those players were from City’s academy?

Leyqute:
Raumdeuter let’s exchange City’s team B wirh United’s team B.

No need for long thing.

We’ll also dash them Mata and Lingard as Jara and fisi

Why not? you think anyone will reject a team of Shaw, AWB Varane Bailly Matic Pogba Rashford, DvB Martial
Do you know how much those guys cost combined

Leyqute:
I’m not saying the other teams don’t have depth.

I’m saying City has the best depth.

The best depth because the coach used them well.

Steffen Ake Zincheko, Stones, Jesus Ferran. Who are those guys. Are these guys better than Pogba Rashford Martial, VDB Varane Bailly Shaw?

patrickmuf:
Roma and Leicester are not comparable in a bit, Roma are a regular top 4 team while Leicester City...

At this point, I'll leave you to your opinion...I know when someone is deliberately stubborn in a bit to win an argument, it's the exact point I quit...

Truth be told, your logic is dizzying. So who was highly rated when Mahrez was in Le Havre and Salah was in Basel considering Salah is a year younger? Is it not because Salah was better rated that an Italian top team wanted him compared to an English minnow in Leicester? If the argument was that Ranieri knew how to use Mahrez better, was Ranieri not the manager when Riyad's form dipped and he Ranieri was fired? You simply cannot have it both ways. You cannot set a period for Riyad where you want to claim he was better and then select another random time or club for Salah. That is not how it works. It simply shows that you have made up your mind already and want to torture the data long enough that it confesses to the crime you want it to. And you are calling me stubborn and trying to win an argument. lol

Android17:
Truth be told, your logic is dizzying. So who was highly rated when Mahrez was in Le Havre and Salah was in Basel considering Salah is a year younger? Is it not because Salah was better rated that an Italian top team wanted him compared to an English minnow in Leicester? If the argument was that Ranieri knew how to use Mahrez better, was Ranieri not the manager when Riyad's form dipped and he Ranieri was fired? You simply cannot have it both ways. You cannot set a period for Riyad where you want to claim he was better and then select another random time or club for Salah. That is not how it works. It simply shows that you have made up your mind already and want to torture the data long enough that it confesses to the crime you want it to. And you are calling me stubborn and trying to win an argument. lol

You knew Mahrez when he was in Le Havre? We are talking Mahrez at Leicester you're digging into his early day in a bit to prove whatever...Sigh.

patrickmuf:
You knew Mahrez when he was in Le Havre? We are talking Mahrez at Leicester you're digging into his early day in a bit to prove whatever...Sigh.

Does it not prove that the younger player who was already known during his stint in Basel was higher rated? You have reverted to Leicester but when I shared Salah's better stats in Roma (at the same time), you said Roma and Leicester are incomparable. Is it not clear to you that you only want Leicester to matter when Riyad won the league? That is what we call forcing the data to become a coerced witness.