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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 6:17am On Dec 21, 2021
Thehilah4jesus:


Please boss kindly respond to my email as am trying to message you.thanks


Kindly ask your questions here or mention me on a dead thread
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 6:21am On Dec 21, 2021
Thehilah4jesus:
Please help me,how do l complete the sukuk application form.l can't edit it.do l print it out and fill then scan it back to the email address. Biko l need urgent answer.thank you in anticipation


Print it out and fill it.

Send the proof and payment and filled form to Stanbic IBTC Capital the main issuing house to the deal.


I will delete this conversation in the next 4 hours, kindly get all the necessary information you require.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 6:24am On Dec 21, 2021
Thehilah4jesus:
Please what is the E-allotment details on the sukuk form(Applicant S4/Custodian A/C. I am pretty new to these things but l just registered my Cscs


You should include your CSCS number in the space

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 7:41am On Dec 21, 2021
Thehilah4jesus:
Please help me,how do l complete the sukuk application form.l can't edit it.do l print it out and fill then scan it back to the email address. Biko l need urgent answer.thank you in anticipation


If you want to complete the form without printing It out to fill. You can use Adobe Acrobat application to open on either your phone or computer (If your computer has touch/calibrating screen because you may need to use your finger or stylus to sign it) After opening it with the application, select the fill and sign option, tap each field you want to fill and start filling.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 7:49am On Dec 21, 2021
Thehilah4jesus:
Please what is the E-allotment details on the sukuk form(Applicant S4/Custodian A/C. I am pretty new to these things but l just registered my Cscs


Tick CSCS and input your CSCS number in the space provided under. Then Tick CSCS under again.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Livestrong: 8:38am On Dec 21, 2021
freeman67:



Tick CSCS and input your CSCS number in the space provided under. Then Tick CSCS under again.

Please I need some steer. Can someone fill the Sukuk form without d cscs, and then have it inputed in his cscs account later.
I used to operate with cashcraft which is now default, don't know if I can use their cscs, so I'm in process of opening a new stockbroking acct.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jedisco(m): 9:01am On Dec 21, 2021
skydiver01:
Kindly find below todays NTB auction results.

Rates are finally beginning to make sense. What surprises me is that the 364 day TB rate which had 3.8 B on offer was oversubscribed to the tune of 63 B- a whooping 16x

This with Emefiele's recent pronouncements on excess liquidity stuck in the banks confirms my previous thesis that even if current TB rates are halved, they'd likely still be oversubscribed. Relatively low TB rates are good for the economy

It's a shame that our banks and CBN have all along been unable to provide an adequate vehicle to channel these funds back into the real economy. Kudos to Emefiele who has finally began to make some good decisions.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jedisco(m): 9:14am On Dec 21, 2021
This brings me to the DMO and longer-term bond offerings... The DMO should work hand in hand with the CBN to harmonize rates

One thing is clear- the Nigerian economy or FGs revenue from such projects is not growing at such a pace to support the interest payments on bonds from income generated. This simply means that whatever interest is paid on local debt is from new money being minted.

Trickle down economics has not worked in any society. The first recipients of new money into an economy would always benefit the most simply because they bank and use their profits before inflation renders whatever gets to those lower down useless.

Following from what emefiele said and what we've seen with TBs, even if bond rates are halved, they'd still be oversubscribed. The question now is, why has the DMO continued to keep rates well above 10% which simply means that inflation will struggle to get below 10%? There should be more ingenious ways of injecting fresh fiat into the economy than rewarding portfolio investors at the expense of the poor masses

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 10:34am On Dec 21, 2021
Livestrong:


Please I need some steer. Can someone fill the Sukuk form without d cscs, and then have it inputed in his cscs account later.
I used to operate with cashcraft which is now default, don't know if I can use their cscs, so I'm in process of opening a new stockbroking acct.


Your CSCS account from Cashcraft should suffice. The broker or agent is just a vehicle. At the end, It is supposed to be warehoused somewhere for subsequent transaction when required. The CSCS or FMDQ is that warehouse.

With that your Cashcraft CSCS account number you can still see your investment on CSCS platform any time you wish to if you subscribe to it.

Also for those that does not have a CSCS account, you can still subscribe. That's why this part : E-allotment Preference: Investors with no A/C is included in the form. Just choose where you want it either with CSCS or FMDQ. However, you may be able to transfer/sell at will before maturity without contacting the CSCS...

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jedisco(m): 10:49am On Dec 21, 2021
In summary, while we reap the fruits DMO bonds at rates which we know are detrimental to the economy given that the interest is practically new money printed out of thin air, let's not come back and blame the poorer masses who would bear the brunt of our profits when in the coming years when inflation continues to keep above 10%.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Thehilah4jesus: 11:15am On Dec 21, 2021
emmanuelewumi:



Print it out and fill it.

Send the proof and payment and filled form to Stanbic IBTC Capital the main issuing house to the deal.


I will delete this conversation in the next 4 hours, kindly get all the necessary information you require.

Thank God bless you
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Thehilah4jesus: 11:16am On Dec 21, 2021
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Tick CSCS and input your CSCS number in the space provided under. Then Tick CSCS under again.[/q
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I am grateful �
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Thehilah4jesus: 11:17am On Dec 21, 2021
Please who is meant to fill the part of the sukuk form for witness and sign? And what does it mean that applicant should not print his signature and if unable to sign the normal manner he should be treated for the purpose of this offer as an illetrate and his right thumb should be clearly

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by freeman67: 1:04pm On Dec 21, 2021
Thehilah4jesus:
Please who is meant to fill the part of the sukuk form for witness and sign? And what does it mean that applicant should not print his signature and if unable to sign the normal manner he should be treated for the purpose of this offer as an illetrate and his right thumb should be clearly


The person meant to fill the witness part is the literate person or the financial adviser filling the form for an intended investors that is not literate or would not be able to sign but thumbprint.

Your second question is self explanatory. You are to sign the form. If anything would make you not to be able to sign, then you thumbprint.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Fairview1: 2:09pm On Dec 21, 2021
freeman67:



The person meant to fill the witness part is the literate person or the financial adviser filling the form for an intended investors that is not literate or would not be able to sign but thumbprint.

Your second question is self explanatory. You are to sign the form. If anything would make you not to be able to sign, then you thumbprint.


Awesome. Thanks for this. I appreciate you greatly.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Thehilah4jesus: 2:11pm On Dec 21, 2021
freeman67:



The person meant to fill the witness part is the literate person or the financial adviser filling the form for an intended investors that is not literate or would not be able to sign but thumbprint.

Your second question is self explanatory. You are to sign the form. If anything would make you not to be able to sign, then you thumbprint.

Thank you so much.grateful heart
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ositadima1(m): 2:41pm On Dec 21, 2021
jedisco:
In summary, while we reap the fruits DMO bonds at rates which we know are detrimental to the economy given that the interest is practically new money printed out of thin air, let's not come back and blame the poorer masses who would bear the brunt of our profits when in the coming years when inflation continues to keep above 10%.




Maybe, or maybe not. If and only if the bond revenue is used for what it was mapped out to be used for. I remember seeing on the DMO website what projects the collected moneys would be used for.

For example,what the roads that will be built will return in value creation, if done well should exceede the coupon payouts.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 3:33pm On Dec 21, 2021
jedisco:
In summary, while we reap the fruits DMO bonds at rates which we know are detrimental to the economy given that the interest is practically new money printed out of thin air, let's not come back and blame the poorer masses who would bear the brunt of our profits when in the coming years when inflation continues to keep above 10%.






Successful Investors don't do blame games, don't wail , but move on and are on the lookout for the next opportunities.


There will be losses and gains, but generally the gains are more than the losses, so regrets are not in their dictionary.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 3:35pm On Dec 21, 2021
jedisco:
This brings me to the DMO and longer-term bond offerings... The DMO should work hand in hand with the CBN to harmonize rates

One thing is clear- the Nigerian economy or FGs revenue from such projects is not growing at such a pace to support the interest payments on bonds from income generated. This simply means that whatever interest is paid on local debt is from new money being minted.

Trickle down economics has not worked in any society. The first recipients of new money into an economy would always benefit the most simply because they bank and use their profits before inflation renders whatever gets to those lower down useless.

Following from what emefiele said and what we've seen with TBs, even if bond rates are halved, they'd still be oversubscribed. The question now is, why has the DMO continued to keep rates well above 10% which simply means that inflation will struggle to get below 10%? There should be more ingenious ways of injecting fresh fiat into the economy than rewarding portfolio investors at the expense of the poor masses


Inflation and devaluation are taken into consideration when determining the coupons for fixed income Investments

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Thehilah4jesus: 5:48pm On Dec 21, 2021
Please somebody help me,l have tried about 4 banks to transfer the funds sukuk payment to but they are saying beneficiary account no found and check the name.is someone else having this same issue
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Olaide1295: 6:11pm On Dec 21, 2021
ositadima1:


Maybe, or maybe not. If and only if the bond revenue is used for what it was mapped out to be used for. I remember seeing on the DMO website what projects the collected moneys would be used for.

For example,what the roads that will be built will return in value creation, if done well should exceede the coupon payouts.

I beg to differ.
The project costs are so high that returns on them are barely enough to meet the interest payment. The government subsidizes train usage prices to make masses happy.

An example is the Lagos-Ibadan railway which costs $1.5Billion to build and currently generates revenue of less than $4million annually. Once operating expenses are factored in, the government is making a loss. Yet interest and capital still need to be paid separately.

Talk not of Abuja-Kaduna railway and Itakpe-warri. They are worse off financially.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 7:12pm On Dec 21, 2021
Olaide1295:


I beg to differ.
The project costs are so high that returns on them are barely enough to meet the interest payment. The government subsidizes train usage prices to make masses happy.

An example is the Lagos-Ibadan railway which costs $1.5Billion to build and currently generates revenue of less than $4million annually. Once operating expenses are factored in, the government is making a loss. Yet interest and capital still need to be paid separately.

Talk not of Abuja-Kaduna railway and Itakpe-warri. They are worse off financially.


Government might not make money from infrastructure but will make money from the multiplier effects of the project and infrastructure.

Fashola practically gave almost free land for Dangote Refinery, but the thousands of people employed with pay taxes, contractors will pay taxes, local government will collect levies, value of real estate will go up, state government will make money from land use charges etc

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Thehilah4jesus: 10:49pm On Dec 21, 2021
Please can anyone help me with stanbic ibtc email to forward my fgn sukuk application form and proof of transfer. @emmanuelewumi the stanbic email you sent can you help check and confirm it please.l sent email to the one you sent butthey ask that l follow up with my intended recipient to release.thanks
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by mickky22: 2:44am On Dec 22, 2021
Thehilah4jesus:
Please can anyone help me with stanbic ibtc email to forward my fgn sukuk application form and proof of transfer. @emmanuelewumi the stanbic email you sent can you help check and confirm it please.l sent email to the one you sent butthey ask that l follow up with my intended recipient to release.thanks


Please complete your application by filling the below electronic form.



FGN SUKUK ONLINE APPLICATION FORM



Thank you

When you upload... They will send you the link to complete the form.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 4:22am On Dec 22, 2021
Thehilah4jesus:
Please can anyone help me with stanbic ibtc email to forward my fgn sukuk application form and proof of transfer. @emmanuelewumi the stanbic email you sent can you help check and confirm it please.l sent email to the one you sent butthey ask that l follow up with my intended recipient to release.thanks


Did you pay to the Stanbic IBTC Bank account number in the form
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jedisco(m): 9:51am On Dec 22, 2021
ositadima1:


Maybe, or maybe not. If and only if the bond revenue is used for what it was mapped out to be used for. I remember seeing on the DMO website what projects the collected moneys would be used for.

For example,what the roads that will be built will return in value creation, if done well should exceede the coupon payouts.

My issue is why the government still retains such high bond rates even when it's obvious they'd still be oversubscribed at much lower rates. It doesn't just add up. Imagine lending money from your bank and also asking them to increase the lending rate because you're feeling generous.

Even if the overall value that comes from such projects well exceeds the payout, we know that would not accure to the government directly to facilitate payouts. Every country prints money- this has become more obvious with COVID. How they use such money is what differentiates sensible nations from others.

I have reattached a snapshot of 10yr bond rates of different nations. Some are in the negative (i.e folks pay to hold bonds), some well in the positive. Irrespective of whether it's a chicken or egg scenario, one thing is clear- the performance of the national currencies with the highest paying bonds tend to be abysmal... The profits may look good on the surface, but the maths will always add up.

Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jedisco(m): 10:12am On Dec 22, 2021
emmanuelewumi:


Successful Investors don't do blame games, don't wail , but move on and are on the lookout for the next opportunities.


There will be losses and gains, but generally the gains are more than the losses, so regrets are not in their dictionary.

This is not about wailing or making excuses as I didn't do any of that. It's also not about being a successful investor. I'm simply pointing out the long-term effects of a macroeconomic decision. I can well go on and purchase the bond but wouldn't turn a blind eye to obvious facts cos it suits me
I did this specifically cos on this thread, folks like to climb on a high horse and see the average Nigerian as 'lazy'. I remember when an 'investor' on this thread who owned a BDC was bloating how he made millions weekly by simply round-tripping the dollar, that same person still turned around to blame smugglers for the devaluation of the naira. I had to take out time to let him know he's worse.

Another is the high TB rates that were in play years back
Did we on this thread benefit from it? Yes
Was it of any benefit to the nation? No
Did such rates play a role in the subsequent devaluation of the naira? Yes
Did hapless Nigerians have to bear the brunt of inflation due to a poor decision by their CBN? Yes

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jedisco(m): 10:17am On Dec 22, 2021
emmanuelewumi:



Inflation and devaluation are taken into consideration when determining the coupons for fixed income Investments

I'm not looking at things from a personal pov. For an individual with free cash looking to invest, it could represent an excellent opportunity. Also, irrespective of what inflation that amounts from it, such an individual will feel it less as they'd be the first recipients of new money.

My post is about what effects such rates have on the economy not whether it's a good individual investment or not

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 10:38am On Dec 22, 2021
jedisco:


This is not about wailing or making excuses as I didn't do any of that. It's also not about being a successful investor. I'm simply pointing out the long-term effects of a macroeconomic decision. I can well go on and purchase the bond but wouldn't turn a blind eye to obvious facts cos it suits me
I did this specifically cos on this thread, folks like to climb on a high horse and see the average Nigerian as 'lazy'. I remember when an 'investor' on this thread who owned a BDC was bloating how he made millions weekly by simply round-tripping the dollar, that same person still turned around to blame smugglers for the devaluation of the naira. I had to take out time to let him know he's worse.

Another is the high TB rates that were in play years back
Did we on this thread benefit from it? Yes
Was it of any benefit to the nation? No
Did such rates play a role in the subsequent devaluation of the naira? Yes
Did hapless Nigerians have to bear the brunt of inflation due to a poor decision by their CBN? Yes


You must be the defender of the helpless and the universe.


If you can't beat them, join them provided it is legal or position yourself to harness opportunities as they emerge. That is the essence of Investment forum.

We can talk about the socio-political implications on the political threads of Nairaland

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Phyde: 11:23am On Dec 22, 2021
Thehilah4jesus:
Please can anyone help me with stanbic ibtc email to forward my fgn sukuk application form and proof of transfer. @emmanuelewumi the stanbic email you sent can you help check and confirm it please.l sent email to the one you sent butthey ask that l follow up with my intended recipient to release.thanks
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