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Religion is a big scam invented by man to destroy the world.

joyandfaith:
Misinformation. Accepting financial help from any individual or organisation is personal responsibility. It is not part of JW doctrine.
We don't have the details and social media sensation may not provide accurate picture.

So you're one of those cultists
Oya nija police food don land

Skymason20:
You guys should be sure of stories !! Before making headlines

I use to tell them:
"Go to Israel and ask about Jesus"
What most of them will hear there in that place will shock them to the point of turning their backs on the same Jesus.
So most people are easily carried away with rumours!

Etuagievin:
Wrong news spread . And many don't care to verify facts. She's at liberty to either choose or reject such donation. Jehovah's witnesses do not hold such doctrine. Therefore, Its wrong to ascribe her death to jws doctrine.

Why in the first place should it be in your doctrine to be at liberty to accept or not a donation?Am sure there are strings attached to that so called liberty , perhaps she stands to lose something if she had accepted the donation

Kobojunkie:
Just as Jesus Christ said. His Truth no longer holds value for you since you have been pretty much weaned on the lies of your GBs instead.

only you knws what your Gbs means,go away.

caracas:
Why in the first place should it be in your doctrine to be at liberty to accept or not a donation?Am sure there are strings attached to that so called liberty , perhaps she stands to lose something if she had accepted the donation

People like you grows in controversies. He just told you there is nothing like that in Jehovah's witness doctrines, and you're arguing. As human we are at liberty to make a choice, it has nothing to do with religion.

joyandfaith:
Misinformation. Accepting financial help from any individual or organisation is personal responsibility. It is not part of JW doctrine.
We don't have the details and social media sensation may not provide accurate picture.

Abi o.. The level of misinformation in our society is alarming.

btw JW rules nd Taliban rules, i no knw whc one craze pass......Now we no knw if na JW or the mumu Oge kill her self.

caracas:
Why in the first place should it be in your doctrine to be at liberty to accept or not a donation? Am sure there are strings attached to that so called liberty , perhaps she stands to lose something if she had accepted the donation

It's a way for these cults to regulate even the personal freedoms of their members.

I pity jehoval witness members ooos,in the end their pastors the snick the go hospitals for medical check up and treatment.Althoug,we most die.But most of the dead from jehoval witness,God no the noam.Toh.

KNOWLEDGE is accumulation of useful information. Even a dog has knowledge.

But


WISDOM is the practical application of accumulated information which results in lasting benefits. Only intelligent beings have this.

So how do you acquire knowledge?
By taking in information from various sources.
But how do you prove to be WISE?
By thoroughly meditating on the information passed to you before dispensing it to others.


What is the name of the congregation this girl associate with?

Help2020:
People like grows in controversies. He just told you there is nothing like that in Jehovah's witness doctrines, and you're arguing. As human we are at liberty to make a choice, it has nothing to do with religion.

Can you then tell us why she rejected a donation to save her life?

caracas:
Can you then tell us why she rejected a donation to save her life?

You have no first hand information cos you were not there. You relying on information you got online which of course you're not sure if it's true.. The Jehovah's witness here have told to you there is no such doctrine,still you're arguing. Dead man tells no tales we have no ideal why she rejected such offer. It could be for personal reason which we don't know.. So pls remove religion from it.

I am a Jehovah's witness. Am here to set the record straight. Medical care is a personal matter. Any individual is free to decide what ever he or she want for his or her health. Receiving donation to care for once health is also personal.
Did she personally tells you her reason for rejecting the donation.
My brother always get your fact right, before defaming anyone or organization.
Reach me on eromonsam@gmail.com.
If you sincerely want to know more.

Tersue:
I pity jehoval witness members ooos,in the end their pastors the snick the go hospitals for medical check up and treatment.Althoug,we most die.But most of the dead from jehoval witness,God no the noam.Toh.

Then tell u say Jehovah witness non dey go hospital?

Help2020:
You have no first hand information cos you were not there. You relying on information you got online which of course you're not sure if it's true.. The Jehovah's witness here have told to you there is no such doctrine,still you're arguing. Dead man tells no tales we have no ideal why she rejected such offer. It could be for personal reason which we don't know.. So pls remove religion from it.

Tell this crap to the birds
This is not the first time a jw member would die for similar reasons

caracas:
Tell this crap to the birds
This is not the first time a jw member would die for similar reasons

I guess you have an agenda. Kindly refer Me to the any link of such. I'm waiting pls.

This story is laughable, very laughable.
No Jehovah witness will seek for financial help whatever from outsiders in their times of need. Among Jehovah's witnesses are captains of industries Professional Engineers, Medical Doctors, just name it.,etc, They have the poor among themselves who are not left out in their times of need and distress.
There are no beggars, even remotely among Jehovah's witnesses.
They are trained to take up menial jobs to care for themselves.

Janosky:
Which OP?
Bros, read the screenshot & believe the GIBBERISH you desire to believe.

So how do these screenshots prove that she got help from her JW family which made her believe that it is sinful to accept help from non-JW sources?

highoctane:
This story is laughable, very laughable.
No Jehovah witness will seek for financial help
whatever from outsiders in their times of need. Among Jehovah's witnesses are captains of industries Professional Engineers, Medical Doctors, just name it.,etc, They have the poor among themselves who are not left out in their times of need and distress.
There are no beggars, even remotely among Jehovah's witnesses.
They are trained to take up menial jobs to care for themselves.

Wow! So there every needs are met either by self or the organization?

Tersue:
I pity jehoval witness members ooos,in the end their pastors the snick the go hospitals for medical check up and treatment.Althoug,we most die.But most of the dead from jehoval witness,God no the noam.Toh.

Although you must die, and your death will be 'normal' because you own your life and decide what will happen to you the next minute including how you will die. Very hilarious!!!!!!

So I ask you, which death can be termed normal death?

Death via sickness, accident, murder, old age etc. Beside, some people with all their money, best medical treatment still died.

For you this young lady's death is not normal because the alleged stories surrounding her death real or fabricated does suit your prejudiced mindset.

Kobojunkie:
Wow! So there every needs are met either by self or the organization?

Take that statement to the bank. All the same the highly discourage laziness.
They offer help to those who want to work but there are no work, but will decline to help any who don't want to work when there are jobs even menial ones.
For the record, the financial contribution made in local kingdom halls of Jehovah's witnesses are called contribution purse ( such contribution are not solicited, No Tithes, no passing of plate.) is promptly used to care for the poor, widows, sick ones among them who fall in dire need, until such one can find their feet.
Where a particular Congregation as them are organized is not capable of meeting the needs of such ones, they will reach out to the next congregation to help out.

highoctane:
Take that statement to the bank. All the same the highly discourage laziness.
They offer help to those who want to work but there are no work, but will decline to help any who don't want to work when there are jobs even menial ones. ...

So, you are saying here that a sick person who is totally unable to work or fend for self is on his own?

caracas:
Can you then tell us why she rejected a donation to save her life?

She is not one of us!
It's a fabrication from Satan to blackmail God's people!
Jehovah's Witnesses have thousands of congregations throughout the world and the names of every member is in record.
So ask for the name of her congregation!

Na aids be that?

Kobojunkie:
So, you are saying here that a sick person who is totally unable to work or fend for self is on his own?

May be you don't don't understand my statement structure, a sick person will not be assumed to be lazy. They discourage highly laziness. They don't eat bread of laziness
He or she who don't want to work, let him or she not eat

MVLOX:
Hmmmm... One of the biggest problem we have as Nigerians is that we are just too reactionary.... They are like the police. They shoot first before investigating. Nigerian are too quick to judge based on one side of the story. In Nigeria who speaks first and uses social media very well has won already.

It's sadly really....

Wake her up to give us the other side of the story

AK481:
Wake her up to give us the other side of the story

That will not be necessary but at least let them tell us where it happened and the name of her congregation.
Anyone can fabricate a story to deceive the gullible but intelligent people will ask questions to ascertain facts.
What is the name of her congregation that's enough for us to know the elders in charge and what exactly happened.
Imagine how South Africans maltreated Nigerians due to heresay. How would you feel if you're a victim of such attack?
All due to stories wrapped up against the name "NIGERIANS" our judgment against others is the same that God will allow to come our way. If we always judge based on one side of the story, we shouldn't be surprised when the same happened to us! Matthew 7:1-4

I wouldn't say they are cultics but I wil call them Ignorant and brainwashed bunchs

highoctane:
May be you don't don't understand my statement structure, a sick person will not be assumed to be lazy. They discourage highly laziness. They don't eat bread of laziness
He or she who don't want to work, let him or she not eat

This story here has to do with a sick individual not laziness. You come in stating that all members had their needs taken care of either by self or the organization.

According to the OP'S Account, this lady had been sick for an extended period of time and had need for large funds to help offset cost of medical procedures she needed. This was where the catholic charity had come in. But you are here saying that the JW organization was obligated to cover her expenses instead as she is a member?

McMentor:
The website JW.org has a provision for donations. Mark you it does not filter or select donations. You can try it yourself.

Besides, it is not a doctrine of JWs to refuse help. Even the Jew in Jesus parable was helped by a Samaritan.

However, my gut feeling tells me that the donation may have been attached to some unscriptural conditions which our sister rejected; something that may bother on interfaith.

So, why don't you share the correspondence between the two that validates the allegation. Let us be careful not to spread half-truths and misinformation.

Then why did she refuse the donations from a catholic church but wanted it from a personal account... it's either she doesn't understand her doctrine and has been foolishly living by doctrines she doesn't understand or she stands to be punishedif she accepts such donations.. it means many of your followers don't understand your doctrines..maybe because they don't have direct contact with the original owners of the denomination to explain these doctrines properly.. from Pennsylvania to Nigeria to igeduma to local congregations... the doctrine has really passed through a lot of filters so when it finally lands in the local congregation..it will be like dem say dem say talk... most of you JWs are now saying it's her choice to accept donations.. where as she vehemently stated she didn't want help from a church..who can only give people such standards to live by if not another denomination feeling like they are in competition with every other denomination in the world... I don't see the choice she has here... why would someone choose death over life because of a doctrine..this only happens when they are promised better and greater things to achieve like these religious terrorist groups

AK481:
Wake her up to give us the other side of the story

Shut your mouth if you don't have something reasonable to say. Must you come out in public to showcase your low IQ?

Did you even read the report very well. Let me help you.

From The Information Gathered By , Ogechukwu Ochiaga had been ill for a while and her story was shared online last year as people begged for donations to help sponsor her medical treatment.

She wasn't even the one who shared the story. What if she wasn't even the one who asked these people to solicit funds for her? What if it wasn't lack of funds that caused her death? Journalism in Nigeria has been left to every Dick and Harry. Instead of the reporter to do his investigation he just copied and pasted someone's reaction and everybody is falling head over heels to say all sort of things.

Nigerian are so gullible. More reason politrickians will continue to make a fool and mockery of us......