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sonmvayina:
Jesus would have to exist first, don't you think so?

No I don't think so. Jesus works even as an imaginary figure in a book. Anyone who learnt anything from the very fictional Things Fall Apart would know this already.

sonmvayina:
God is just a fancy world for the universe .....lol.

This is marduk, with the universe as his garments...

No that is not Marduk! That is a picture of an ancient statue of Marduk, and like claiming a picture of Jesus is Jesus.

MaxInDHouse:
In Yorùbá culture there are many many as in so many gods!

Yes..they are called orishas...they represent the laws and principles of life and nature...

MaxInDHouse:
There's no ifá mythology that speaks against:
Making of images~ Exodus 20:4
Bowing to images~ Exodus 20:5
Nothing like Sabbath~ Exodus 20:8

So it has nothing to do with TORAH!

Well there are some days you don't go to markets isn't it?
The yorubas where not even doing those things. So there was no warning for them concerning that...the jews where doing that for Moloc and the so called queen of heaven....

MaxInDHouse:
But the real teachers of REINCARNATION always include Nirvana!
So you totally confused!

Well the idea might be same but the nomenclature might be different...have you ever thought of that. ?

God allows us to have different go at life before we become like him...that is the purpose anyway.

At the end, everyone will be saved
The idea of hell is absurd.

sonmvayina:
Yes..they are called orishas...they represent the laws and principles of life and nature...

And people always makes images of them and bow to them! Exodus 20:4-5

sonmvayina:
Well there are some days you don't go to markets isn't it?
The yorubas where not even doing those things. So there was no warning for them concerning that...the jews where doing that for Moloc and the so called queen of heaven....

LIES!
The Israelites never had any dealings with an idol when God brought them out of Egypt, all the laws given to them were to make them different from all other races on planet earth. That's why the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob referred to them as His people! Exodus 5:1 compare to 19:5

budaatum:
He definitely is all over the place and buda is definitely what has been referred to as occult. Or at least, off the beaten track.

I'm sure we'd have called Jesus occultic too though, if he were around today. His time people did said he was demonic, so not far off, don't you think?

I feel Jesus' response would be [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+13%3A10-16&version=NIV]"Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear"[/url], at least to those who seek to understand.

I drew his attention and yours to what you said as quoted below:

budaatum:
This is very not true. The stories we read about Jesus specifically teach “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

The bolded 'your' means your God, whichever it may be. You hinted on this understanding with "Not necessary Judaism", so it does not matter that some wait since many have not yet received a book, and some not even abc.

I am interested in the last paragraph. Are you saying that your teaching there is not occultic...not hidden...demonic?

Mmhmm!

sonmvayina:
YES ...that is what I have been singing from the top of my voice.

The Hebrew Bible was written by the jews for the jews. For their official religion called Judaism.
Thei yoruba also wrote or passed the knowledge of their own religion from generation to generation. Same as the igbos.
I wonder why you are using the Hebrew one as a yardstick for all of humanity.
They all worship the creator. There is only one God and creator of the universe.
The only difference is how people approach him and the nomenclature..

Marduk is the creator of heaven and earth according to the Babylonians. He is the lord God of the old testament..(check the enuma Elish) .

It was him who asked Nebuchadnezzar to bring everyone to Babylon to learn about him.

With all what you have filled your mind, it will not be easy for you to understand the Truth. I doubt if you haven't confused yourself completely.

Yahushua the Messiah, the Salvation of YHVH Almighty, will help you if you turn to him for deliverance.

[quote author=sonmvayina post=109258003][/quote]Sonmvayina, edit that post.

elated177:
With all what you have filled your mind, it will not be easy for you to understand the Truth. I doubt if you haven't confused yourself completely.

Yahushua the Messiah, the Salvation of YHVH Almighty, will help you if you turn to him for deliverance.

You are just a brainwashed slave holding on to absurdities....

Goodluck ..

MaxInDHouse:
LIES!
The Israelites never had any dealings with an idol when God brought them out of Egypt, all the laws given to them were to make them different from all other races on planet earth. That's why the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob referred to them as His people! Exodus 5:1 compare to 19:5

I guess you brought the propaganda hook, line and sinker...
I did not....I don't worship a God' that does not look like me..

MaxInDHouse:
And people always makes images of them and bow to them! Exodus 20:4-5

I am talking about the yorubas..

You seem lost, stay focused..

sonmvayina:
You are just a brainwashed slave holding on to absurdities....
Goodluck ..

Everyone will always appear brainwashed to you. Even your so called cohorts only agree with you to kick against Christ apart from that you will never agree on terms and conditions that's why you will continue to argue, abuse, insult, curse and also carry weapons against one another due to racism and politics! Luke 11:23

sonmvayina:
I guess you brought the propaganda hook, line and sinker...
I did not....I don't worship a God' that does not look like me..

LIES!
According to Exodus 20 1-4 God has no form so Israelites are never to imagine any form of image for God!

sonmvayina:
I am talking about the yorubas..
You seem lost, stay focused..

YES! They have nothing similar to what the God of Abraham required.
They makes and bow down to images so don't compare them to worshipers of the God who detests images in worship!

sonmvayina:
You are just a brainwashed slave holding on to absurdities....

Goodluck ..

What made me a slave, sonmvayina? Do explain.

How am I brainwashed? Kowatiate.

Mention the absurdities that I am holding on to.

Sonmvayina, I am of a royal priesthood. How can I be a slave? It is not possible.

elated177:
What made me a slave, sonmvayina? Do explain.

How am I brainwashed? Kowatiate.

Mention the absurdities that I am holding on to.

Sonmvayina, I am of a royal priesthood. How can I be a slave? It is not possible.

Explain how a woman became pregnant without a man's sperm.

MaxInDHouse:
LIES!
According to Exodus 20 1-4 God has no form so Israelites are never to imagine any form of image for God!

That's why you accepted Jezus as Messiah....

sonmvayina:
That's why you accepted Jezus as Messiah....

Because he exhibited all the attributes of the one and only true God, it's the most stupid idea to think some people can create such a mind out of nothing. That's why billions of people can't forget what they've heard and read about Jesus of Nazareth! Matthew 16:16

elated177:
I am interested in the last paragraph. Are you saying that your teaching there is not occultic...not hidden...demonic?

I am saying, please elated177, you be the judge of buda.

Do note though that if buda is "hidden", you wouldn't see buda to judge.

elated177:
With all what you have filled your mind, it will not be easy for you to understand the Truth. I doubt if you haven't confused yourself completely.

Yahushua the Messiah, the Salvation of YHVH Almighty, will help you if you turn to him for deliverance.

As easy as a camel entering through the needle's eye, Christ would tell him. He can not become as a child so does not understand the Word and how it saves.

budaatum:
I am saying, please elated177, you be the judge of buda.

Do note though that if buda is "hidden", you wouldn't see buda to judge.

It is a simple matter, budaatum.

Do you realize that "the Lord", which is a title, was used to replace the name of the Owner of the Scripture?

sonmvayina:
Explain how a woman became pregnant without a man's sperm.

Can you explain how flesh and blood came out of dust of the earth?

elated177:
It is a simple matter, budaatum.

Do you realize that "the Lord", which is a title, was used to replace the name of the Owner of the Scripture?

No, I do not realize any such "simple matter". Scripture advises, be wary of peddlers of "simple matter".

If Scripture replaces the Lord, a [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2020%3A3-5&version=ESV]fundamental commandment[/url] in said Scripture is disobeyed.

elated177:
Can you explain how flesh and blood came out of dust of the earth?

It is rude to answer a question with a question...

sonmvayina:
It is rude to answer a question with a question...

Says who?

The answer to your question is in the answer to my question.

budaatum:
No, I do not realize any such "simple matter". Scripture advises, be wary of peddlers of "simple matter".

If Scripture replaces the Lord, a [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2020%3A3-5&version=ESV]fundamental commandment[/url] in said Scripture is disobeyed.

Do you or do you not know that "the Lord" is not the name of the Owner of the Scriptures you are always quoting?

elated177:
Do you or do you not know that "the Lord" is not the name of the Owner of the Scriptures you are always quoting?

Nobody owns the Scripture, elated, and no Lord wrote it. It is about Lords though, and lots of other folks.

sonmvayina:
It is rude to answer a question with a question...

But it's not rude to insult people directly calling them "brainwashed" simply because they don't agree with you!

budaatum:
Nobody owns the Scripture, elated, and no Lord wrote it. It is about Lords though, and lots of other folks.

Very occultic.

The Scriptures are owned.

sonmvayina:
Well the idea might be same but the nomenclature might be different...have you ever thought of that. ?

God allows us to have different go at life before we become like him...that is the purpose anyway.

At the end, everyone will be saved
The idea of hell is absurd.

Falsehood.