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budaatum:
This is very True. Its like I take off my clothing and walk about naked so that that which is unseen is seem. The pity is, not many have the patience to look so they may see.

You, however, delight me. You say you use your eyes to look so you may see, so please do not hesitate to inform those who see not so they too may look at what you see and consider.

Don't worry, budaatum, our paths didn't start crossing today. I know you haven't forgotten. Your occultic teachings are glaring for all to see. The genuine seekers of the Truth will always point out your serpentine ways.

Thing is, why do you bother with the Scriptures? You don't believe them, you don't regard them, you don't know the Owner, you have no regard for the Owner and I am sure you are not a pastopreneur. So, really, budaatum, why do you bother? You just want to pervert them, right? Aren't there enough occultic books that you could you use for your mission?

We are here to expose your wickedness, budaatum.

budaatum:
buda always minds. Lets see if, Amen.

May the Lord thy God Almighty continue to strengthen you to expose the mote in the eyes of buda if that is what the Lord thy God requires of thee. In the mighty Name of Jesus Christ the Messiah doth buda pray.

May YHVH Almighty continue to use me, Elated177, to expose the wickedness and perversion of budaatum on this forum. May my Father in heaven continue to fill me, his saint, servant and messenger, Elated177, with the strength to expose the wickedness and perversion of budaatum and his ilks on this forum. May budaatum be exposed every single time he tries to use the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth, to spread his occultism. May Budaatum always be rebuked for every Scripture he twists and manipulates. He is a very, very wicked individual and he has refused to refrain from his blatant attempts at perverting the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

elated177:
Don't worry, budaatum, our paths didn't start crossing today. I know you haven't forgotten. Your occultic teachings are glaring for all to see. The genuine seekers of the Truth will always point out your serpentine ways.

You notice the effort I put in to ensure what I teach is glaring! Thank you for the compliment, elated. Most don't see what you refer to as "serpentine ways", so it will be a pleasure to have you point them out to the Genuine Seekers of the Truth.

elated177:
Thing is, why do you bother with the Scriptures? You don't believe them, you don't regard them, you don't know the Owner, you have no regard for the Owner and I am sure you are not a pastopreneur. So, really, budaatum, why do you bother? You just want to pervert them, right? We are here to expose your wickedness, budaatum.

Isn't a pastopreneur a person who receives payment from pastoring? Elated, do you seriously believe anyone will pay buda for what what you refer to as "serpentine ways"?

I bother with Scripture, that being the Bible and the Quran as far as Nigeria is concerned, for the following reasons:

1. To read what those around me read. If I don't, I will be ignorant of what they speak of.

2. To learn for myself. If I don't read the books myself ignorant people will be telling what is written in it.

3. For my development. It is after a book that helps one grow and evolve and become if understood.

And I definitely do not believe! James, you see, a more complex writer than many who preceded him wrote that the devil's believing makes them tremble, so why should I choose to emulate demons?

Pervert, you say. buda is guilty as charged. When a person reads, "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die", and then claims they died when they clearly didn't, their beliefs must of necessity be perverted from what they are for they are obviously not using their eyes not to talk of their God given minds, so please expose buda's so called wickedness. The Lord God will give you immense strength.

elated177:
May YHVH Almighty continue to use me, Elated177, to expose the wickedness and perversion of budaatum on this forum. May my Father in heaven continue to fill me, his saint, servant and messenger, Elated177, with the strength to expose the wickedness and perversion of budaatum and his ilks on this forum. May budaatum be exposed every single time he tries to use the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth, to spread his occultism. May Budaatum always be rebuked for every Scripture he twists and manipulates. He is a very, very wicked individual and he has refused to refrain from his blatant attempts at perverting the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

In Jesus Christ the Messiah's Mighty Name, Amen.

MaxInDHouse:
And what's your total income annually?
Guy, don't even go there because i live and do my business in the center of excellence and to the glory of God i'm doing fine.
Common sense doesn't have anything to do with riches because it depends on times and unforseen occurrences! Ecclesiastes 9:11

What we are discussing here has to do with how people think and the result when they come together. So if you're here always arguing about Jesus who has millions of disciples WORKING for him by preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all our neighbourhood globally, the same Jesus that is having billions of fans throughout the earth.
But you are arguing that he never existed how do you think someone like you who only have a mushroom kindergarten center in Edo state really exist?

It will all soon come to an end. The people who created the character will reveal the truth to you.. maybe then your eyes will be open. Till then just enjoy the ride...or scam.

No derailing of the post..

Which of the properties of the Messiah in Judaism or as contained in the old testament did Jesus fulfil ?

If none, who the hell is Jesus and who is Mathew, Mark Luke, John and Paul get the idea from ?

Clearly they are not telling us an eye witness account. They did not tell us how they got the story and 9f they believe or not and what their belief did for them?

So many holes in the story.

budaatum:
You notice the effort I put in to ensure what I teach is glaring! Thank you for the compliment, elated. Most don't see what you refer to as "serpentine ways", so it will be a pleasure to have you point them out to the Genuine Seekers of the Truth.
Isn't a pastopreneur a person who receives payment from pastoring? Elated, do you seriously believe anyone will pay buda for what what you refer to as "serpentine ways.

Ehehehehe! Even a zonked person's speech and movement are glaring for all to see.
Should we look at what started all these?

Some have been and are being paid for worse.
Some have sold and are selling worse.

budaatum:
I bother with Scripture, that being the Bible and the Quran as far as Nigeria is concerned, for the following reasons:

budaatum:
1. To read what those around me read. If I don't, I will be ignorant of what they speak of.
2. To learn for myself. If I don't read the books myself ignorant people will be telling what is written in it.3. For my development. It is after a book that helps one grow and evolve and become if understood.

budaatum:
And I definitely do not believe! James, you see, a more complex writer than many who preceded him wrote that the devil's believing makes them tremble, so why should I choose to emulate demons?

Believe is the first step, Budaatum. I know you are learning.

John 9: 35 Yahushua heard that they had thrown him out, and when he found him, he said, “Do you believe in the Son of Man?”
36 “Who is he, sir?” the man asked. “Tell me so that I may believe in him.” 37 Yahushua said, “You have now seen him; in fact, he is the one speaking with you.” 38 Then the man said, “Lord, I believe,” and he worshiped him.

budaatum:
Pervert, you say. buda is guilty as charged. When a person reads, "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die", and then claims they died when they clearly didn't, their beliefs must of necessity be perverted from what they are for they are obviously not using their eyes not to talk of their God given minds, so please expose buda's so called wickedness. The Lord God will give you immense strength.

You do not believe that you are perverting the Scriptures? Can we go to the genesis of this current discourse? Let us look at what precipitated all these.

budaatum:
In Jesus Christ the Messiah's Mighty Name, Amen.

"In the Mighty name of Yahushua the Messiah. El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH." Would have been the best.

The apostles should be twelve of the most famous people in history. We're told they were hand picked by Jesus to witness his wondrous deeds, learn his sublime teachings, and take the good news of his kingdom to the ends of the earth.

Which makes it all the more surprising that we know next to nothing about them. We can't even be sure of their names: the gospels list a collection of more than twenty names for the so-called twelve disciples – with Bartholomew sometimes showing up as Nathanael, Matthew as Levi and Jude as Thaddeus, Lebbaeus, or Daddaeus!

It should be apparent that if the twelve were actual historical figures, with such an important role in the foundation and growth of the Church, it would be impossible to have such wild confusion over the basic question of who they really were.

But what do we know about any of them?

"Twelve Good Men and True"?

The fact is that for seven of the twelve, our only early source, the Gospels, say nothing about them at all. They are just names on a list.

Isn't it a tad odd that such worthies, infused with the Holy Spirit and given powers to heal the sick and cast out demons, wrote nothing, or had nothing written for them or about them? Isn't it odd that men chosen to be eye-witnesses to the mighty deeds of Jesus, wrote no eye-witness statements, left no sermons, no memoirs, no letters, no teachings, no pithy words of encouragement?

All that we have about "the twelve" are conflicting legends and fantastic stories from a much later date, tall stories about where they went, what they did and most especially how they died. Their deaths, it seems, have been recorded in loving and lurid detail. And it is the graphic deaths of the disciples that solves the riddle. We've all heard the apologetic claim: "Would they have died for a lie? Therefore the story of Jesus must be true."

"Would the disciples have suffered and died for a fabricated saviour?"

One of the reeds of straw holding up the shabby edifice of Christendom is the alleged suffering and cruel fate of his original apostles, the twelve disciples chosen by the Lord himself. By their heroic, cheek-turning sacrifice, these worthies earned their martyr's crown and joined their Lord in Heaven. In so-doing, they inspired generations of noble Christians, who ultimately taught the blood-thirsty Romans the Christian values of compassion and brotherly love. Well, that's the myth.

But we all know how useful to a cause is a dead martyr, even if he's a fiction. In the case of Jesus, the twelve are a fiction, a necessary entourage for a sun god, passing through the twelve constellations of the zodiac. Just like other saviour gods, Jesus had to have his retinue.

The truth is, the twelve disciples are a grubby and sordid invention.

Where DID they get their ideas from?

Joshua also chose Twelve

"The LORD spoke to Joshua, saying: 'Take for yourselves twelve men from the people, one man from every tribe' ... Then Joshua called the twelve men whom he had appointed from the children of Israel, one man from every tribe." – Joshua 4.1-4.

The names 'Jesus' and 'Joshua' both derive from the Hebrew Yehoshua – an heroic name ('Yahweh saves') given to the supposed leader of the Israelites in their conquest of Canaan.

The parallels don't end there. Matthew's Jesus promises his groupies that they will "sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel." – Matthew 19.28.

sonmvayina:
It will all soon come to an end. The people who created the character will reveal the truth to you.. maybe then your eyes will be open. Till then just enjoy the ride...or scam.

Do you think i care about whatever anyone say about Jesus again?

The Bible has now become like the theory to me while what people say sounds like objectives. But the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of Jesus can be clearly seen in the gathering of Jehovah's Witnesses!
Whoever wants to prove Jesus is fake only need to explain to me how a global family of peace loving worshipers like JWs emerged and perfected everything Jesus predicted!

elated177:
Believe is the first step, Budaatum. I know you are learning.

Paul would say, "When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child", and I would add, and believed liked a child. Then he became an adult and put childish things behind him.

Yes, Elated, budaatum is learning. Christ taught me to ask and knock and seek with everything that is me which is what learning is, as opposed to believing what you 'know' and think is all there is to know. All we think we know it is only a part and not all, but when you ask and knock and seek with all your heart and soul and being, you learn, and completeness comes, and what is in part disappears.

Believing might be the first step Elated, but those who will be elated do not stay in kindergarten forever.

elated177:
You do not believe that you are perverting the Scriptures? Can we go to the genesis of this current discourse? Let us look at what precipitated all these.

Yes. Consider starting a new thread for it please.

budaatum:
Paul would say, "When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child", and I would add, and believed liked a child. Then he became an adult and put childish things behind him.

Obi cannot be a boy for ever, Budaatum. Obi will eventually grow out of boyhood and into manhood.

Budaatum, do you believe in Yahushua the Messiah, the Word and Salvation of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth?

budaatum:
Yes, Elated, budaatum is learning. Christ taught me to ask and knock and seek with everything that is me which is what learning is, as opposed to believing what you 'know' and think is all there is to know. All we think we know it is only a part and not all, but when you ask and knock and seek with all your heart and soul and being, you learn, and completeness comes, and what is in part disappears.

Believing might be the first step Elated, but those who will be elated do not stay in kindergarten forever.

Isaiah 8: 20 Consult God’s instruction and the testimony of warning. If anyone does not speak according to this word, they have no light of dawn.

Jeremiah 6: 16 This is what YHVH says:
“Stand at the crossroads and look; ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it, and you will find rest for your souls.
But you said, ‘We will not walk in it.’

It depends on what you are seeking, where you are knocking and for what you are asking, Budaatum. What have you been instructed with all your heart and soul and being, Budaatum?

Yeah! Blessed are the "elated ones" for they see, hear, know, perceive and understand. Only the Spirit of the Mighty One of Jacob, my Mighty One, can do so for us.

budaatum:
Yes. Consider starting a new thread for it please.

I think this thread perfect for such. The owner of this thread supported your assertion.

elated177:
Budaatum, do you believe ......

buda does not believe, period. Elated, if you were not telling porkies about you watching buda you would know this by now!

Believe is the cooking up of crap in ones head and claiming it is the truth. Look around you. See the believers, in their pastors or the little of the book they have read. They believe, so they seek not.

Its why Christ said, "become as a child". He meant, abandon your preconceived beliefs and look with fresh eyes. But I guess some are afraid to use their own senses, perhaps because they believe that on the day that they do seek they shall surely die - despite it clearly written that ignorance is what kills.

The lazy believe, Elated. That's why they tremble when the winds blow and the storms come and washes away their foundation of sand while some set their cross on the solid firm rocky ground that leads to understanding and beyond, if such places exist.

elated177:
Budaatum. What have you been instructed with all your heart and soul and being, Budaatum?

Instructed? buda is not instructed.

buda has learnt, amongst many other things however, to love ones fellow human being above all, even above the Gods.

Elated. I love you.

budaatum:
buda does not believe, period. Elated, if you were not telling porkies about you watching buda you would know this by now!

Budaatum, there is a difference between "believe" and "believe in".

John 9: 35 Yahushua heard that they had thrown him out, and when he found him, he said, “Do you believe in the Son of Man?” 36 “Who is he, sir?” the man asked. “Tell me so that I may believe in him.” 37 Yahushua said, “You have now seen him; in fact, he is the one speaking with you.”

budaatum:
Believe is the cooking up of crap in ones head and claiming it is the truth. Look around you. See the believers, in their pastors or the little of the book they have read. They believe, so they seek not.

It is not easy for anyone to cook up crap in his/her head. The head has been wired to comprehend and decipher truth. You see, it is the mind that can be influenced to cook up crap. Hope you understand?

budaatum:
Its why Christ said, "become as a child". He meant, abandon your preconceived beliefs and look with fresh eyes. But I guess some are afraid to use their own senses, perhaps because they believe that on the day that they do seek they shall surely die - despite it clearly written that ignorance is what kills.

Genesis 3: 10 11 And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?”

Isaiah 30: 21 Whether you turn to the right or to the left, your ears will hear a voice behind you, saying, “This is the way; walk in it.”

budaatum:
The lazy believe, Elated. That's why they tremble when the winds blow and the storms come and washes away their foundation of sand while some set their cross on the solid firm rocky ground that leads to understanding and beyond, if such places exist.



Instructed? buda is not instructed.

buda has learnt, amongst many other things however, to love ones fellow human being above all, even above the Gods.

Elated. I love you.

elated177:
Genesis 3: 10 11 And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?”

So, they were ignorant of their unclothedness until their sense of seeing was activated?

Why command they remain blind, Elated? Which kind of God profits from the blind ignorance of its labourers?

elated177:
Budaatum, there is a difference between "believe" and "believe in".

Jesus is Lord!

I can somewhat accept this difference Elated, though, I would rather understand than "believe" and or "believe in".

Anything I "believe" has insufficiently been subjected to the process of ask and seek and knock with all that is buda so buda may actually understand, and then know, and utilise.

For instance. One can believe that Elated will love buda but one would not really know if Elated will love buda until one tests if Elated loves buda or not. After testing if Elated loves buda or not - the ask knock seek part - one would not merely believe Elated loves buda because one would know if Elated loves buda or not.

Of course, by our fruits.

elated177:
It is not easy for anyone to cook up crap in his/her head. The head has been wired to comprehend and decipher truth. You see, it is the mind that can be influenced to cook up crap. Hope you understand?

The head, the mind, what's the difference, though I stand corrected. It is however very easy for people to cook up crap inside their own minds and believe it. You yourself must have met lots of people on here who reason incorrectly because of what they believe with their minds, or haven't you? In fact, is it not your allegation that buda is cooking crap up in other people's minds?

The head may have been "wired to comprehend and decipher truth", but without a 'Christ' mind, one you get by much asking and knocking and seeking with all that you are, Scripture has it written in it that one would reason incorrectly.

budaatum:
Instructed? buda is not instructed.

buda has learnt, amongst many other things however, to love ones fellow human being above all, even above the Gods.

Elated. I love you.

I know one God, the Creator of heaven and earth, he who rules over all the natural phenomena, YHVH Almighty.

Budaatum, listen:

Deut 7: Know therefore that YHVH your God is God; he is the faithful God, keeping his covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love him and keep his commandments. 10 But those who hate him he will repay to their face by destruction;
he will not be slow to repay to their face those who hate him.

Psalm 18: 25  To the faithful you show yourself faithful, to the blameless you show yourself blameless, 26 to the pure you show yourself pure, but to the devious you show yourself shrewd.

elated177:
I know one God, the Creator of heaven and earth, he who rules over all the natural phenomena, YHVH Almighty.

Budaatum, listen:

Deut 7: Know therefore that YHVH your God is God; he is the faithful God, keeping his covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love him and keep his commandments. 10 But those who hate him he will repay to their face by destruction;
he will not be slow to repay to their face those who hate him.

May the will of the God be done.

elated177:
Psalm 18: 25  To the faithful you show yourself faithful, to the blameless you show yourself blameless, 26 to the pure you show yourself pure, but to the devious you show yourself shrewd.

When you walk with someone, you have the opportunity to share in the life-experiences of that person. You are there when things happen, and are immediately impacted by the results of the circumstances that you both encounter. God does not merely want us to read about what He did yesterday (or a long time ago, in our cases); He wants to us personally be involved with Him in what He is doing today and what He is planning to do tomorrow.

Jesus called us to follow Him. The Greek word for follow is akoloutheo. It means to walk alongside someone, shoulder to shoulder, if you will, almost as if you were in lock-step with them.
https://christalliance.org/2017/03/06/god-reveals-himself-psalm-1825-27/

budaatum:
So, they were ignorant of their unclothedness until their sense of seeing was activated?

Why command they remain blind, Elated? Which kind of God profits from the blind ignorance of its labourers?

Again:

Jeremiah 6: 16 This is what YHVH says:
“Stand at the crossroads and look;
    ask for the ancient paths,
ask where the good way is, and walk in it,
    and you will find rest for your souls.
    But you said, ‘We will not walk in it.’

Isaiah 8: 20 Consult God’s instruction and the testimony of warning. If anyone does not speak according to this word, they have no light of dawn.

Also consider:

Revelation 2: 24 Now I say to the rest of you in Thyatira, to you who do not hold to her teaching and have not learned Satan’s so-called deep secrets, ‘I will not impose any other burden on you, 25 except to hold on to what you have until I come.

You will find my direct response from the above Scriptures.

budaatum:
Jesus is Lord!

I can somewhat accept this difference Elated, though, I would rather understand than "believe" and or "believe in".

Anything I "believe" has insufficiently been subjected to the process of ask and seek and knock with all that is buda so buda may actually understand, and then know, and utilise.

You believe in what you have come to understand. The Master, Yahushua the Messiah, never instructed his followers to live in ignorance. In fact:

Job 28: 28 And he said to the human race,
    “The fear of YHVH—that is wisdom,
    and to shun evil is understanding.”

You would have felt, seen, tasted and tested before you "believe in".

Again:

John 9: 35 Yahushua heard that they had thrown him out, and when he found him, he said, “Do you believe in the Son of Man?” 36 “Who is he, sir?” the man asked. “Tell me so that I may believe in him.” 37 Yahushua said, “You have now seen him; in fact, he is the one speaking with you.”

budaatum:
For instance. One can believe that Elated will love buda but one would not really know if Elated will love buda until one tests if Elated loves buda or not. After testing if Elated loves buda or not - the ask knock seek part - one would not merely believe Elated loves buda because one would know if Elated loves buda or not.

Of course, by our fruits.

John 14: 15 “If you love me, keep my commands.

John 15:  If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love.

budaatum:
The head, the mind, what's the difference, though I stand corrected. It is however very easy for people to cook up crap inside their own minds and believe it. You yourself must have met lots of people on here who reason incorrectly because of what they believe with their minds, or haven't you? In fact, is it not your allegation that buda is cooking crap up in other people's minds?

This is why I always tell people to remove their focus from mere mortals and focus on their Maker. Be conscious of your forehead and resist mind control. Look people in the eye when you are talking with them - irrespective of who or what they are. Study the Scriptures for yourself. There is no middle man between Yahushua the Messiah and his followers.

Matthew 11: 28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”

budaatum:
The head may have been "wired to comprehend and decipher truth", but without a 'Christ' mind, one you get by much asking and knocking and seeking with all that you are, Scripture has it written in it that one

The Spirit of the Creator of the head - who wired the brain - is the key.


El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

budaatum:
May the will of the God be done.

The will of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth, is supreme.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

elated177:
The will of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth, is supreme.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

When did he decide or walked that he will send his son as sacrifice for the sins of man.

Where did he will that he will impregnate another man's wife to sire a son ?

In the old testament?

elated177:
The will of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth, is supreme.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

Why do you believe he sent "his son" to come and change it ?

MaxInDHouse:
Do you think i care about whatever anyone say about Jesus again?

The Bible has now become like the theory to me while what people say sounds like objectives. But the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of Jesus can be clearly seen in the gathering of Jehovah's Witnesses!
Whoever wants to prove Jesus is fake only need to explain to me how a global family of peace loving worshipers like JWs emerged and perfected everything Jesus predicted!

I will ask you again , this time please do make a choice.

Which do you prefer,
1. To be by your self and obey the commandments of the creator of heaven and earth or,
2. Be in a peaceful group that worships an idol...



I am waiting .

sonmvayina:
Why do you believe he sent "his son" to come and change it ?

Where did the Son of YHVH Almighty change the Father's will?

sonmvayina:
When did he decide or walked that he will send his son as sacrifice for the sins of man.

Where did he will that he will impregnate another man's wife to sire a son ?

In the old testament?

Isaiah 9: 6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7 Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end.
He will reign on David’s throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of YHVH Almighty
will accomplish this.

Was this about Solomon, Rehoboam, Josiah, Jehosaphat, Hezekiah, Manasseh, etc?

Isaiah 7: 14 Therefore YHVH himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.

Who was the above Scripture referring to?

The Maker of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them is not a man. He is God Almighty. He uses his creatures for his purposes and no one can accuse him of doing wrong.

YHVH Almighty made the natural law of procreation --- man's spermatozoa fuses with a woman's ovum to form a new being. Now, is it difficult for him to deposit his "SEED" into the woman's body without coitus? Answer this question, sonmvayina.

elated177:
Isaiah 9: 6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7 Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end.
He will reign on David’s throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of YHVH Almighty
will accomplish this.

Was this about Solomon, Rehoboam, Josiah, Jehosaphat, Hezekiah, Manasseh, etc?

Isaiah 7: 14 Therefore YHVH himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.

Who was the above Scripture referring to?

The Maker of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them is not a man. He is God Almighty. He uses his creatures for his purposes and no one can accuse him of doing wrong.

YHVH Almighty made the natural law of procreation --- man's spermatozoa fuses with a woman's ovum to form a new being. Now, is it difficult for him to deposit his "SEED" into the woman's body without coitus? Answer this question, sonmvayina.

Seems you have not been following this thread. I have elaborately explained those passages.
In Isaiah 9:6 the child has already been born when Isaiah was prophesying. It is present tense not future tense. In fact the son was 6 years old. He is referring to future king Hezekiah who was already born. The son has already been given or born . Stop taking text out of context. You will loose the gist in the story.

In 7:14 the sign was for king Ahaz . It was to assure him that his kingdom will survive the threat posed by Syria and the northern kingdom.. read verse 16. Why do people just pull out text from a story and expect to make sense...for good measure the woman is isaiahs wife and it was Isaiah that impregnated her.



You are wiser than this, except I am wrong.

elated177:
Where did the Son of YHVH Almighty change the Father's will?

Every 5hing about Jesus in the new testament runs contrary to God laws in the old testament

Are you are learner,

Which part of the new testament agrees with God laws,?

sonmvayina:
Seems you have not been following this thread. I have elaborately explained those passages.
In Isaiah 9:6 the child has already been born when Isaiah was prophesying. It is present tense not future tense. In fact the son was 6 years old. He is referring to future king Hezekiah who was already born. The son has already been given or born . Stop taking text out of context. You will loose the gist in the story.

Elaborately explained what? Inukwa grammar!
I am sure that you confuse yourself most times. "To us a son is given" does not mean that he had been born at the time of the prophecy.
Look at the attributes of such individual, do they describe a mere mortal? O dikwa egwu!

sonmvayina:
In 7:14 the sign was for king Ahaz . It was to assure him that his kingdom will survive the threat posed by Syria and the northern kingdom.. read verse 16. Why do people just pull out text from a story and expect to make sense...for good measure the woman is isaiahs wife and it was Isaiah that impregnated her.

So "a virgin will be with a child" means nothing to you, sonmvayina?

sonmvayina:
You are wiser than this, except I am wrong.

Emotional blackmail will not work.

Tackle this:
YHVH Almighty made the natural law of procreation --- man's spermatozoa fuses with a woman's ovum to form a new being. Now, is it difficult for him to deposit his "SEED" into the woman's body without coitus? Answer this question, sonmvayina.

elated177:
Elaborately explained what? Inukwa grammar!
I am sure that you confuse yourself most times. "To us a son is given" does not mean that he had been born at the time of the prophecy.
Look at the attributes of such individual, do they describe a mere mortals? O dikwa egwu!



So "a virgin will be with a child" means nothing to you, sonmvayina?




Emotional blackmail will not work.

Tackle this:
YHVH Almighty made the natural law of procreation --- man's spermatozoa fuses with a woman's ovum to form a new being. Now, is it difficult for him to deposit his "SEED" into the woman's body without coitus? Answer this question, sonmvayina.

Isaiah never said a virgin..the word used is Almah, it means a young woman. The woman in question is isaiahs wife and the pregnancy was made possible by Isaiah.
The jews don't have the idea of God mating with humans. It is a Roman/Greek mythology..

God is the law. And the law 8s a woman needs a male input before she can become pregnant. Stop all this ignorance and illiteracy...

sonmvayina:
Isaiah never said a virgin..the word used is Almah, it means a young woman. The woman in question is isaiahs wife and the pregnancy was made possible by Isaiah.
The jews don't have the idea of God mating with humans. It is a Roman/Greek mythology..

God is the law. And the law 8s a woman needs a male input before she can become pregnant. Stop all this ignorance and illiteracy...

Maintain your ignorance and illiteracy.

I really don't owe you anything, sonmvayina. You sound like you are the owner of anyone's soul. I will stick with my own views. Be free, sonmvayina, to stick with your ignorant and illiterate views.

elated177:
Maintain your ignorance and illiteracy.

I really don't owe you anything, sonmvayina. You sound like you are the owner of anyone's soul. I will stick with my own views. Be free, sonmvayina, to stick with your ignorant and illiterate views.

And you believe a woman can become pregnant without a man's sperm.

Continue, when the time comes you will move from believing to knowing the truth. But first the truth will piss you off before it sets you free...

Shalom.