Magnoliaa:


- The most of the people I quoted are traditional guys. Or they say they are.

- Hardly did one of them set me right about any mix-ups on my part concerning them.

- Even if I quoted someone who wasn't traditional to highlight a reason or point, it doesn't negate the fact that other self-identified traditional men are disagreeing with the OP. They are on this thread.

Imma set you right sweetie. So respond to your DM

Don't waste time I need your number like yesterday

THERE IS NO INSULT HERE..YOU HAVE A POINT..JUST THAT IF LOVE TRULY EXIST BETWEEN COUPLE T HEN YA POINT WILL BE USELESS. BUT IF THERE IS NO TRUST OR SINCERE AFFECTION THEN EVERY ONE BEGINS TO INVOKE THERE RIGHTS..
AM SURE THERE IS NO SINGLE LOVE IN YOUR HEART

Floppy:
I totally agree.

SIMPliton

Gospel2Day:
She raised valid points.
Please, let's stop this hostility we mete out to our females.
I know they have their faults and excesses, but we males are not without our own faults and foibles too.
My question is If you employ a maid, visit prostitutes and employ extra lessons teacher for your kids, calculate how much you will be spending monthly as their salaries.
Do those three jobs that people engage in to make ends meet deserve remuneration?
If you pay your wife the same amount you pay your maid and the lesson teacher and the oloshos you sin with every month, will you still accuse your wife of bringing NOTHING to the table?
You want a woman to do the duties of a maid, a lesson teacher and a mistress who helps you quench your urge to merge with the opposite sex and who carries your babies, often with the risks of dying during childbirth FOR FREE, non gratis, simply because she is a wife.
But you will gladly pay for such services as long as those who render such services are not legally married to you.
What every woman needs to bring to the table is her readiness to keep and manage your home businesses, to cook, clean, carry your babies, care for your babies and copulate with you and be your companion.
She can then secure a job or you help her to set up a small business that frees her to perform her homely duties well.
Pressuring your wife to work from 7 am to 7 pm like you do will expose your home front and your children to serious societal ills and social dysfunctions.
I know a lady that used to be abandoned by parents and granny. A lesbian neighbour began to have lesbian sex with her EVERYDAY from age 5 till when she turned 15, when they moved away from the place.
So, let's STOP harrasing our females. They're our grannies, mothers, wives, sisters, cousins, nieces and daughters.
We should rather love, care for them and protect them. But we should not spoil them by always granting their entitlement mentality.
The simple solution is: LEAVE WOMEN ALONE UNTIL YOU HAVE ENOUGH TO CATER FOR THEM AND THEIR CHILDREN.
No man who cannot control himself, who always needs to fornicate with women to quench his urge for sex should complain when the women demand that he provides for their financial needs.
Shalom.

May you live long sir. I have always wondered at what point does a man ask what are you bringing to the table? Those roles you mentioned up there are inherent in every responsible woman and it is left for a man to quietly observe his woman to know if she is up to the task. You don't need to ask such a foolish question, you are supposed to know. But they won't sit down and observe the necessary qualities they want in a wife, some are even confused anyway as they don't know what they want. At the end of the day they start whining and blaming women for their failures. A woman who loves you will lay all she has when the chips are down even before then sef. When you bring 3, she will bring one. It is an inherent quality that loves brings out in a woman. But what do you expect from men whose main fantasies are size of women's behind and sex styles?

Gospel2Day:
For how long will the bride price you paid to marry her last before it expires, if you are paying her 100k every month to serve you as your maid, sex worker and extra lesson teacher?

Okay... I'm not sure I get what you're saying...

Banter1:
Mr defender be calming down now. Abi na your babe? You sound like a guy

Oh. It's not more a woman thing to be argumentative and attention-seeking and being everywhere all the time?

Are you saying men have a penchant for this - behaving exactly how I'm 'behaving'?

If you are not willing to be a help mate, choose single Mom lifestyle and see how it goes That's the trend nowadays by the way. Don't be too wise. Mutualism is the key

Magnoliaa:


Okay... I'm not sure I get what you're saying...



Oh. It's not more a woman thing to be argumentative and attention-seeking and being everywhere all the time?

Are you saying men have a penchant for this - behaving exactly how I'm 'behaving'?

Hey sweetness
Waiting for the reply

If you continue with this mindset, you will still be shouting "I RECEIVE" in prayer houses when your sensible mates are already settled in life. This is not an Insult but fact. Choose wisely now

You are 100percent on point Op

Princess80:
Most times I see men asking the question of what ladies bring to the table.

Seriously, we aren't created to bring, we are to process, the man is the provider, he will bring everything for us to process.

If u give us bring sperm, we give u babies
If u give us groceries, we have to give u food
If u give a house, we give u a home
Give us frustration, and trust me, i will surely multiply it and give u hell.

In the bible, Adam had everything and had dominions over it, the woman only came to help him harvest his raw materials.

When it comes to finance, Oga it is 100% ur responsibility, I could only assist when my husband isn't making much and he had future plans or if I earn better than he does.
U can't share financial burden with me and still expect me to cater for the children, wash, cook, clean all alone and still gather enough strength for ur wahala at night.
Bringing money is the only thing a man does, why on earth will u share that very one with me? When I object, u will call me a feminist, Oga masculnist, I will not share.
Every other responsibility in a home belongs to me, while financial responsibilities must be shared abi.
Note: sharing financial burden and helping are two different things.

Oya let the insults pour 123 go.

I can call a cooking and cleaning company to do that job.... the demand is that you make your own money and use the money to support yourself and your children.....

The era of a man shouldering everything is long gone....wake up to the new reality....

kaboninc:


Really?

Yeah. I don't mean making money is easy tho, it's certainly not but if I could choose between providing money for the home and every other thing including child bearing, I'll certainly choose money.

JohnOkolo:



This reply to that bigot of a OP is so divine and epic.

Madam go and marry Adam and leave the Son of Men alone. We have chosen not to die for a cracked hole no matter what you say.

Wise words.... Men have been enslaving themselves and dying for that stuff for a long time.

Magnoliaa:


We were being sensible and civil and I was actually enjoying this...oh, well.

and i for see how you twist it to suite your tiny Ego kinda make u feel amazing or superstar

Princess80:
Most times I see men asking the question of what ladies bring to the table.

Seriously, we aren't created to bring, we are to process, the man is the provider, he will bring everything for us to process.

If u give us bring sperm, we give u babies
If u give us groceries, we have to give u food
If u give a house, we give u a home
Give us frustration, and trust me, i will surely multiply it and give u hell.

In the bible, Adam had everything and had dominions over it, the woman only came to help him harvest his raw materials.

When it comes to finance, Oga it is 100% ur responsibility, I could only assist when my husband isn't making much and he had future plans or if I earn better than he does.
U can't share financial burden with me and still expect me to cater for the children, wash, cook, clean all alone and still gather enough strength for ur wahala at night.
Bringing money is the only thing a man does, why on earth will u share that very one with me? When I object, u will call me a feminist, Oga masculnist, I will not share.
Every other responsibility in a home belongs to me, while financial responsibilities must be shared abi.
Note: sharing financial burden and helping are two different things.

Oya let the insults pour 123 go.

when you get to your menopause years lovely ,am sure your view will change.

I don't know why folks on this thread are going after you ? you just basically stated that you want to be a housewife -like in previous times- the stay at home,cook,wash, give birth and manage household wives of decades past.

But you see, the problem of not investing along with your partner is that you will become a spectator- after all he who pays the Piper dictate the tone.

And before you begin again to list the numerous qualities of the wife,know that the husband has humongous qualities also.


My best advice to you is this - Marriage isn't for everyone ,to avoid the nightly wahala (women don't enjoy sex abi ?) ,cooking, catering to kids, cleaning ,and investing your funds to help grow your family , you had better remain a spinster because your setting yourself up for a resentful marriage

elantraceey:


Yeah. I don't mean making money is easy tho, it's certainly not but if I could choose between providing money for the home and every other thing including child bearing, I'll certainly choose money.

You are just faking it. all those other stuff in the home can be outsourced to a catering and cleaning company.... females una selfish die! Those feeling entitled to a mans money are in for a rude awakening.

If you end up not having a man, wont you sort your bills? learn to start living and taking responsibility for your life. [i][/i]

emmeyen:


May you live long sir. I have always wondered at what point does a man ask what are you bringing to the table? Those roles you mentioned up there are inherent in every responsible woman and it is left for a man to quietly observe his woman to know if she is up to the task. You don't need to ask such a foolish question, you are supposed to know. But they won't sit down and observe the necessary qualities they want in a wife, some are even confused anyway as they don't know what they want. At the end of the day they start whining and blaming women for their failures. A woman who loves you will lay all she has when the chips are down even before then sef. When you bring 3, she will bring one. It is an inherent quality that loves brings out in a woman. But what do you expect from men whose main fantasies are size of women's behind and sex styles?

You're right.
This generation is NOT raising responsible, and reasonable males.
It should be instilled in our male children that they are to bear the financial burden of the family they will head and lead as fathers.
Sadly, all they fill their heads with growing up is exploiting and abusing females sexually and emotionally. They date girls for years and later dump them. They impregnate females and abandon them to nurse and raise the kids by themselves.
We have a disaster of irresponsible and irrational males/men on our hands in this generation.
God help us.
Shalom.

Gospel2Day:


You sound like the 19 years here by your disrespectful and abusive response.
The Nigerian girls that did you something did they put gun to your brains to date them by force?
Your lack of self control and sensibility is the culprit here, NOT the girls you are accusing.
If you had stayed away from them and focus on becoming something in life, would any girl do you something?
You disregard the laws of God, fornicate as though there is NO God and His commandment Thou Shalt NOT Commit Sexual Sins, and you think there will be no consequences?
That's a simple way to be foolish.
Leave the girls alone. Let them be.
If that's too difficult for you to do, then blame yourself for your lack of self control..

dude, you are not wise.
God doesn't exist, don't push that your nonsense relgious narratives on me. Grow up.

If Nigeria lady tidy you, you will stop saying all these nonsense

Magnoliaa:


Some of those guys are clowns, swears.

How are you?

Happy New Year. ✨✨ I don't think I've ever wished you directly or talked to you since the year started sef.

My dear we haven't o. Good to see you and Happy New Year!

I'm doing great, by the way. What about you?

Princess80:
Most times I see men asking the question of what ladies bring to the table.

Seriously, we aren't created to bring, we are to process, the man is the provider, he will bring everything for us to process.

If u give us bring sperm, we give u babies
If u give us groceries, we have to give u food
If u give a house, we give u a home
Give us frustration, and trust me, i will surely multiply it and give u hell.

In the bible, Adam had everything and had dominions over it, the woman only came to help him harvest his raw materials.

When it comes to finance, Oga it is 100% ur responsibility, I could only assist when my husband isn't making much and he had future plans or if I earn better than he does.
U can't share financial burden with me and still expect me to cater for the children, wash, cook, clean all alone and still gather enough strength for ur wahala at night.
Bringing money is the only thing a man does, why on earth will u share that very one with me? When I object, u will call me a feminist, Oga masculnist, I will not share.
Every other responsibility in a home belongs to me, while financial responsibilities must be shared abi.
Note: sharing financial burden and helping are two different things.

Oya let the insults pour 123 go.

But this is the gospel truth na. I have always said this and it always offends all these baby men we have around now. Providing for your family is the only thing you do yet you want to share that responsibility with your wife! If she could monetize and ask you to pay for all the services she carries out for you at home, eg catering, cleaning, caregiver, health worker laundry woman and teacher to your children, (i remember, when my children were younger, they used to call me their driver and my car their schoolbus! ) your sexual and emotional companion etc, do you think you can afford to pay for all these going by the rates each of these service providers charge commercially? Yet you will not let her drink water and drop cup because you go to work and come back with money that she still has to manage or even supplement to make it last until month end! Anyone who is offended by this post should go and check himself very well.

Acidosis:
My dear we haven't o. Good to see you and Happy New Year!

I'm doing great, by the way. What about you?

Glad to hear that.
I'm fine as well.

Magnoliaa:


I could care less about what y'all do in your relationships. But clarify something to me, 'cause I'm real confused here. When did it become a feminist action to follow traditional standards?

How exactly is it feministic to say you're a traditional woman and that you expect a man to provide for you?

I don't GET why you had to put that caveat that, 'call me a feminist but...'. Duhh. Feminists generally do not subscribe to women NOT bringing something to the table.

A feminist believes in equal participation, a give and take thing, which runs contrary to your belief that women should not bring anything. So who said feminists are still the ones saying women shouldn't bring anything?

I'm not arguing your point or whatever you believe in, it just ticks me off when people use the word 'feminism' as a buzzword and catchphrase and drag feminists literally into DISCUSSIONS that are not within their scope or range or whatever. In totally unrelated things.

It's just like...a therapist talk with patients to solve problems.
A doctor carries out operations to solve problems.

And you're now saying, 'I'm not a therapist, but I don't believe in talking to patients. I believe surgery is the best way to go.' Like, of course, you're not a therapist. Of course, a therapist believes in talking. Of course, as a doctor, you believe in surgeries. So why did you have to bring in the method of the therapists?

Ko relate.

Beautiful response.

Magnoliaa:


- The most of the people I quoted are traditional guys. Or they say they are.

- Hardly did one of them set me right about any mix-ups on my part concerning them.

- Even if I quoted someone who wasn't traditional to highlight a reason or point, it doesn't negate the fact that other self-identified traditional men are disagreeing with the OP. They are on this thread.

OK, glad to see at least you understand men do have different views on things. That just because one man believes "a" doesn't mean other men will automatically believe "a".

Is alright sha have a nice day.

jikins:
OK, glad to see at least you understand men do have different views on things. That just because one man believes "a" doesn't mean other men will automatically believe "a".

Is alright sha have a nice day.

We deal with generalisations, stereotypes and black/white situations here. No nuances at all.

Do have a great day too!

Magnoliaa:

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More or less. But then everyone's an hypocrite and like to pick the part of things that favours them, so she can be traditional and whatever else all she wants.

Don't say it like it's some indictment. It's y'all wishes.

She can’t eat her cake and have it.
She wants the traditional way of life of not contributing to the family growth(financially amongst other things) but at the same time she wants the modernist way of life.
She’s gotta stick to one and not be hypocritical...
Wells whatever the hell that works for her...

Liability in disguise...
This one will stay with you when everything is sweet and good, once things just hard small, na highest bidder she go dey look for o.
Parenting nowadays no be small work

The creator,gave man "sperm" and women "ovaries",that's what is called support.
How do women define "helper".

UnusualEmissary:
People ask what a woman is bringing in terms of finance; as if finance is all that is needed to run a successful union

A woman does bring her share to the table. What she does in the home, the efforts she takes, the sacrifices she makes to ensure the well-being and happiness of the husband and the children is worth as much or maybe even more than finance.

My Lady, the future of women who think like you do is bright in The New Era. Keep it up.

This is however not to mean that a woman cannot be educated or shouldn't have to work. But it's not her primary role to provide in terms of finance. Of course, there's nothing wrong if she supports in that regard. That's the point.

If she isn’t meant to have an input financially, why then is she working? Is it better to be a full house wife at home.

Alohaa:
She can’t eat her cake and have it.
She wants the traditional way of life of not contributing to the family growth(financially amongst other things) but at the same time she wants the modernist way of life.
She’s gotta stick to one and not be hypocritical...
Wells whatever the hell that works for her...

Okay. Take it up with the Op. Or yeah, whatever works for her. How did that enter my mention?

Princess80:
a woman will be glad to change roles with a man, can we say same for a man?

In your wildest dreams

Princess80:
Most times I see men asking the question of what ladies bring to the table.

Seriously, we aren't created to bring, we are to process, the man is the provider, he will bring everything for us to process.

If u give us bring sperm, we give u babies
If u give us groceries, we have to give u food
If u give a house, we give u a home
Give us frustration, and trust me, i will surely multiply it and give u hell.

In the bible, Adam had everything and had dominions over it, the woman only came to HELP him harvest his raw materials.

When it comes to finance, Oga it is 100% ur responsibility, I could only assist when my husband isn't making much and he had future plans or if I earn better than he does.
U can't share financial burden with me and still expect me to cater for the children, wash, cook, clean all alone and still gather enough strength for ur wahala at night.
Bringing money is the only thing a man does, why on earth will u share that very one with me? When I object, u will call me a feminist, Oga masculnist, I will not share.
Every other responsibility in a home belongs to me, while financial responsibilities must be shared abi.
Note: sharing financial burden and helping are two different things.

Oya let the insults pour 123 go.

DONT BE UN4TUNATE young lady!
The WORD "HELP" alone NULLIFIES ur GIBBERISH
Don't know BIBLE, No come still UNDERSTAND ENGLISH.
Were there iphone, Brazilian hair, RR gifted to EVE?
U go jus attend half Sunday school n elope at teenager n become women of DEBT/LIABILITY n dey quote bible upside down?

Trash ! She is hellish. She is unevolved and from a backward, primitive and savage background and family - with no integrity, vision and dedication - but entitlements and terrors.Run away from such ones lk them... Dem de fall victims of ritualists and get-rich-quick men...