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Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by aljpimp(m): 11:24am On Feb 06, 2022
SILVERLINES:
all wine contain alcoholic. Check your dictionary for the word wine

Goat
No bro.. go Shoprite you’ll see plenty non alcoholic red wine.. an example is chamdor
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by Peterosky(m): 11:25am On Feb 06, 2022
jesusjnr2020:
Kindly state just one of facts he stated that proved that the wine Jesus turned water into was alcoholic.

If you are able to do so, it means he didn't state any facts that back that idea, but just facts that are irrelevant in this case

Moreover, what has the natural production of alcoholic back then got to do with the wine Jesus produced?

Did Jesus produce the wine through the same means used then?

The reason it sounds rhetorical to you is because you can't comprehend the sense in what I'm saying.

Jesus produced wine in a means that no one has ever done it before, so whatever kind of wine produced then is no basis to determine that which Jesus did. If you go back and look closely at the instance, you'd see that the reaction meant, it was a different kind of wine to what they were used to then, so shouldn't that alone suggest to you that it wasn't alcoholic as that which they often did?

If you have no qualms about taking alcohol, that doesn't mean you should drag Jesus into it.
.Brotherly, there is nothing like non-alcoholic wine.non alcoholic wine is just a name for fruit juice in a wine bottle. You may wish to check your dictionary to get the proper meaning of wine.
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by miketayo(m): 11:26am On Feb 06, 2022
jesusjnr2020:
Kindly state just one of facts he stated that proved that the wine Jesus turned water into was alcoholic.

If you are able to do so, it means he didn't state any facts that back that idea, but just facts that are irrelevant in this case

Moreover, what has the natural production of alcoholic back then got to do with the wine Jesus produced?

Did Jesus produce the wine through the same means used then?

The reason it sounds rhetorical to you is because you can't comprehend the sense in what I'm saying.

Jesus produced wine in a means that no one has ever done it before, so whatever kind of wine produced then is no basis to determine that which Jesus did. If you go back and look closely at the instance, you'd see that the reaction meant, it was a different kind of wine to what they were used to then, so shouldn't that alone suggest to you that it wasn't alcoholic as that which they often did?

If you have no qualms about taking alcohol, that doesn't mean you should drag Jesus into it.

nothing like non alcoholic wine in Jesus time like we have today

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Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by obailala(m): 11:31am On Feb 06, 2022
jesusjnr2020:
All wines are alcoholic right?

Sheer ignorance.
Lol... Ignorance is accusing another of being ignorant.

Wine = A fermented drink = Alcoholic
Wine never had a different definition; if it hasnt got alcohol, it cannot be 'wine'.

Tagging a drink as non-alcoholic wine is just as ridiculous a saying 'alcoholic drink without alcohol'.

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Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by safarigirl(f): 11:35am On Feb 06, 2022
adonis89:
u no add kidney and liver problem. Mine is kidney problem, though the doctor said it isn't a serious one that requires operation. But he warned me to reduce my alcohol intake to barest minimum. I've switched to red wine but na once a week

You clearly took it in excess, hence your kidney problems. Clearly, more than your body could process

It's akin to when someone eats too much food and then they become obese. This is a health issue that can come from consumption of either food or alcohol, in your case. Some people will eat a lot and may never have to deal with obesity, same way some will drink a lot and may never have to deal with kidney issues.

It's down to stuff like genetics and moderation.
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by safarigirl(f): 11:40am On Feb 06, 2022
zakkxx:
No be Catholic Church? That is we’re the Anti Christ will come from!!! I am not surprise

Lol

According to the gospel of Helen Ukpabio abi?

Una go just open mouth dey talk like who no suck breast when dem small.

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Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by obailala(m): 11:40am On Feb 06, 2022
AntiChristian:


Of cos. Non-alcoholic wine is produced with sophisticated technology not available back then. What Jesus gave them was a high quality of what they are used to.
There is no such thing as non-alcoholic wine. If it's called wine, then it has some alcohol in it. The simple definition of wine is 'a fermented drink'. Any fermented drink must have alcohol in it, and if it doesnt, then it is not a 'fermented drink' and therefore cannot be called 'wine'.

The statement 'non-alcoholic WINE' is just an ignorant paradox.

cc: jesusjnr2020

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Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by obailala(m): 11:43am On Feb 06, 2022
headSmasher:
Why would it be medicinal when your lord the god of Igbo Catholics, the pope claimed that gays and lesbians are children of God, that God loves them., Catholics and heretic adjuration
God created everyone, and loves everyone. Whether sinner or saint, gay or lesbian or w.hatever.
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by Dawn91(m): 11:45am On Feb 06, 2022
safarigirl:


Lol

According to the gospel of Helen Ukpabio abi?

Una go just open mouth dey talk like who no suck breast when dem small.

smiley
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by Busineessguru4: 11:45am On Feb 06, 2022
jesusjnr2020:
Yeah. Baseless logical assumptions right?

If you knew or were of the Truth, you wouldn't even argue this, so I guess we agree on one thing that this is it would be a waste of time to continue with this convo, so best we move on...
Just do well to check up the meaning of Wine in your dictionary. The term non alcoholic wine was used by people that saw that some fruit drinks looks like wine, so they just decided to term it none alcoholic wine. There was nothing like that before. Just consult your dictionary

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Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by maxist2020(m): 11:47am On Feb 06, 2022
Alcohol is Biblical and here are some verse in the Bible that backs it up, it all boils down to the way you take your own.

Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by aljpimp(m): 11:48am On Feb 06, 2022
NwokoloOwa:


My good friend there is nothing like non alcoholic wine. All wines must have alcohol. What we erroneously refer to as 'non alcoholic wines' are better referred to as alcohol free drinks or simply fruit juices not withstanding they are corked. They are processed through a vinification process and other processes to have their alcohol removed.

Again, all other fruit-based products marketed as 'nonalcoholic wine' are simply juice. And you can never see WINE written on then. Whether Eva, Carpel, Don Morris, etc

Thank you
Lols.. guess you’re not much in to red wines.. check chamdor
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by safarigirl(f): 11:50am On Feb 06, 2022
Dawn91:


smiley

How may I assist you Dawn?
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by Dawn91(m): 11:51am On Feb 06, 2022
safarigirl:


How may I assist you Dawn?

Nothing .. I enjoy reading your comments

smiley
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by lacidi: 11:53am On Feb 06, 2022
aljpimp:

No bro.. go Shoprite you’ll see plenty non alcoholic red wine.. an example is chamdor
Chamdor is not wine. Go to shoprite and pick up a bottle of Chamdor and read what is written on it. It’s written clearly on the bottle ‘Sparkling Grape’ and further written ‘Alcohol free sparkling grape juice’. There is no where wine is written on a Chamdor bottle.

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Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by lacidi: 11:56am On Feb 06, 2022
lacidi:

Chamdor is not wine. Go to shoprite and pick up a bottle of Chamdor and read what is written on it. It’s written clearly on the bottle ‘Sparkling Grape’ and further written ‘Alcohol free sparkling grape juice’. There is no where wine is written on a Chamdor bottle.
https://mawellastore.co.tz/media/2020/06/chamdor-750ml.jpg
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by okwusdaddy: 12:01pm On Feb 06, 2022
efficiencie:


What about marijuana, crystalmeth, fentnyl, cocaine, sensimilla, tobacco, opium etc GOD created all these ones too na in the same sense as GOD created alcohol and you can take them in moderation too. Mumu reverend father teaching the very nonsense that has brought us to where we are today. GOD created fruits, man fermented it and produced alcohol. GOD did not produce alcohol, it is man's perversion of GOD's creation towards worshiping himself and his lusts. We teach abstinence from alcohol because it is addictive and could lead to young men.women squandering their lives, money and time on fruitless endeavors. We call ourselves Christians yet we strive so hard to bend, twist, caress, handle, massage and damage the scriptures to justify our stupidity yet we want atheists to see the sense in the shit we do. Is this the load of crap Jesus died for? What a shame!
Oga abeg no vex, allow us to drink our alcohol in peace now. its not compulsory that you drink alcohol you can continue drinking your medicinal coke and fanta.Noring do you.
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by Obapemi: 12:05pm On Feb 06, 2022
AntiChristian:


Can you prove non-alcoholic wine exists back then?

Nowadays it's made by distillation, ultra filtration and a host of other scientific processes.

Alcoholic wine has been in your Bible since the time of Noah!

It is can be made by fermenting fruits in water in the presence of catalyst. This was common back then.

Oga wake up!!!

New Living Translation
20 Wine produces mockers; alcohol leads to brawls.
Those led astray by drink cannot be wise.

READ THE BIBLE BY YOURSELF WITH HELP OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by MrSly(m): 12:07pm On Feb 06, 2022
uglyafonja:
Alcohol may not be a sin.....But where the problem lies is the after effects....

Alcohol will always make you to think about fornication...
Alcohol will always make you to think to commit mastabation
Alcohol breed anger and hyperactiveness

The sad event is just enormous, if it is possible to avoid it, kindly avoid it.....

I have the urge to fornicate whenever I take alcohol....

You lied!!! Alcohol can only bring out what is hidden in you, your real desire. Just don't take excess of it.
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by aljpimp(m): 12:08pm On Feb 06, 2022
lacidi:

Chamdor is not wine. Go to shoprite and pick up a bottle of Chamdor and read what is written on it. It’s written clearly on the bottle ‘Sparkling Grape’ and further written ‘Alcohol free sparkling grape juice’. There is no where wine is written on a Chamdor bottle.
Baba chamdor has a brand of non alcoholic red wine .. made from grape fruit but the alcohol was removed at the last stage .. same fermentation process with the alcoholic wine .. go check yourself .. this is something I take bro.. I stopped taking alcoholic red wine due to some health issue.. majorly triggering my acid reflux symptoms so I had to switch to the non alcoholic brand
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by secpowell: 12:09pm On Feb 06, 2022
Yes all wine are Alcoholic. Got to your dictionary or Google and type Wine. You will get the meaning of Wine
jesusjnr2020:
All wines are alcoholic right?

Sheer ignorance.
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by MrSly(m): 12:11pm On Feb 06, 2022
jesusjnr2020:
All wines are alcoholic right?

Sheer ignorance.

I think the ignorant person here is you.

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Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by basork: 12:12pm On Feb 06, 2022
AntiChristian:


Non-alcoholic wine was never known back then. The context of the chapter show it was booze, a top quality wine popular among its drinkers.

It was practically impossible to brew wine without alcohol back then. If it doesn't shack them they won't claim it was better than the previous they drank!

And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.

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Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by lookingfly: 12:15pm On Feb 06, 2022
jesusjnr2020:
All wines are alcoholic right?

Sheer ignorance.
how are you sure it's non alcoholic? Do you know how wine is made?
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by seniorgozman(m): 12:17pm On Feb 06, 2022
jesusjnr2020:
All wines are alcoholic right?

Sheer ignorance.
Yes, if there is no alcohol in it, it is fruit juice.

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Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by safarigirl(f): 12:17pm On Feb 06, 2022
Dawn91:


Nothing .. I enjoy reading your comments

smiley

It is well
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by Dawn91(m): 12:18pm On Feb 06, 2022
safarigirl:


It is well

You are beautiful inside and out
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by Bahamas95(m): 12:19pm On Feb 06, 2022
I kinda like the feeling that comes with alcohol whenever I take it. I don't talk much but whenever I am high I turn into a talkative. Though I don't loose guard in my talking but I talk more than when am not high.



It should be taken with moderation.
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by IgbuduMonkey: 12:21pm On Feb 06, 2022
headSmasher:
Why would it be medicinal when your lord the god of Igbo Catholics, the pope claimed that gays and lesbians are children of God, that God loves them., Catholics and heretic adjuration
so God doesn't love gays, he only loves righteous people like you. Na wa o. Do you even know that your statement means that you are not even a Christian?
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by uncleinans(m): 12:32pm On Feb 06, 2022
Here's the definition of wine

Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by crazygod(m): 12:33pm On Feb 06, 2022
aljpimp:

No bro.. go Shoprite you’ll see plenty non alcoholic red wine.. an example is chamdor
In those days, They had no refrigeration to prevent spoilage, so fruit juice would go alcoholic or turn into vinegar unless bottled immediately and allowed to ferment, and no wine would be drunk unless it was alcoholic.
Re: Alcohol Is Medicinal - Rev Fr Oluoma by Hintona(f): 12:35pm On Feb 06, 2022
jesusjnr2020:
Kindly state just one of facts he stated that proved that the wine Jesus turned water into was alcoholic.

If you are able to do so, it means he didn't state any facts that back that idea, but just facts that are irrelevant in this case

Moreover, what has the natural production of alcoholic back then got to do with the wine Jesus produced?

Did Jesus produce the wine through the same means used then?

The reason it sounds rhetorical to you is because you can't comprehend the sense in what I'm saying.

Jesus produced wine in a means that no one has ever done it before, so whatever kind of wine produced then is no basis to determine that which Jesus did. If you go back and look closely at the instance, you'd see that the reaction meant, it was a different kind of wine to what they were used to then, so shouldn't that alone suggest to you that it wasn't alcoholic as that which they often did?

If you have no qualms about taking alcohol, that doesn't mean you should drag Jesus into it.

Non-alcoholic wine was invented in the late 1800s to early 1900s. While alcoholic wine existed 6000 years ago.

Google it.

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