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budaatum:
I wish that were true but I'm delighted it definitely is true now.

Perhaps men will go as far as allowing themselves to be taught about the origin of life too instead of them ignorantly believing the woman is their rib.

in what ways has men had it good before now?

In this case i completely agree with Prof. Jordan Peterson.

we humans are eager to forget that even though we have built rockets and built space ships, we are not "God". we are still animals operating under the influence of hormones and chemical complexes.

At first i used to thought women not wanting to date broke guys was out of greed. I admit, i was ill informed, after all i was living on the prejudice of society.

Thanks to Jordan Peterson too. i believe and know that the ides he formulated with regards to hierachy in society are nothing but purely ingenious. After watching some of his lectures, then everything suddenly started to make sense.

Men, successful or not marry mostly down the hierachy.

Women, successful or not marry across and upwards the hierachy..

If you're broke don't expect Tacha to be simping for you. its not realistic.

A friend of mine lost his girlfriend to their regional pastor. (deeper life goers). there's more to it though. The promises the pastor made and pressure from jer parents made her choose a man almost twice her age.
Many women are being forced by culture(other victimized women included) to choose higher classes of men. very unfortunate.

A man marrying a much wealthier woman would feel insecure; on one hand there's his biology, on the other there's culture. One can shape the other too, so its a complex thing, very complex.

The more wealthier you become, the higher your shoulders. its in the biology. A lion with a pride holds his head very high, as opposed to one without.(speaking metaphorically).

This is why rich people were considered to be full of pride by the poor folks. Maybe, could be also why poor people are "humble" and very obedient ? i haven't looked that up- just speculating.

As for myself, i really don't know. As i grow older day by day-
I'm starting to feel the urge for less older females. ladies my age range are less "attractive" no matter how attractive they are..
I do my best to not allow Biology dictate my behavior.

Premiumwriter:
in what ways has men had it good before now?

If you don't already know then I'm delighted that you don't and wouldn't educate you so you know since it's a good thing that you don't know.

Magnoliaa:
Thank youuuuuuuu.

Ehennn. I go agree with you here!

I go agree with you for the sake of this argument. I am currently wearing my strap-on and speaking on behalf of redpillers...

Redpillers will always claim women are hypergamous. So abeg, OP, or anywan wey dey available fit help me reconcile that fact to the point of the OP that 'successful' women or women do not go for what they want??

How you fit claim, as a redpiller, say women are hypergamous and control the dating scene by their acceptance or refusal, yet believe women are rocks that do absolutely nothing to pursue a man of their desires?

Even when they do, they go about it subtly.

Magnoliaa:
Now, my bias and subjective opinion is more successful women, with all the accompanying attributes they possess, shoot their shots at guys. In different ways.

You mean the same ways all women shoot their shots?Giving subliminal green light and waiting for the guy to make the first move. hahahahahahahah..

Premiumwriter:
actually he's point blends perfectly with my write up and contradicts the earlier mention you gave me.

Anyways, it's expected from a WOMAN

You dey crazeeee. Walaiii. You're MAD, o de ri eyan so fun e. See someone I was even being civil to and staying on the topic for, you're now coming here to be condescending and saying it expected of a woman.

Ori e ti gbale. Idiot.

Why you not fit address my point with all of your logic without the need for the condescension??

E pass you abi? You no know how to address what I'm saying anymore, and you had to resort to ''it's expected of a woman.''

Na so. Na our point you dey prove so. If we say men are intimidated now, you go begin bleat, creating threads such as this to be saying nonsense.

You asked for this. Turn it around again and keep claiming it's because I'm a woman when you literally fired the first bullet.

Ode.

Insecure t.w.a.t.

If you were man enough, why you no fit keep all snide remarks aside without the subtle hint of your timidity showing? Ekwensu.

odinson1:
The don't chase after the men they want because they believe they are the prize to be won. Afterall,they have a Goldmine within their legs so They'd think that way.

Until a strong man wins her (the prize) and turns the table where he becomes the prize

Magnoliaa:
You dey crazeeee. Walaiii. You're MAD, o de ri eyan so fun e. See someone I was even being civil to and staying on the topic for, you're now coming here to be condescending and saying it expected of a woman.

Ori e ti gbale. Idiot.

Why you not fit address my point with all of your logic without the need for the condescension??

E pass you abi? You no know how to address what I'm saying anymore, and you had to resort to ''it's expected of a woman.''

Na so. Na our point you dey prove so. If we say men are intimidated now, you go begin bleat, creating threads such as this to be saying nonsense.

You asked for this. Turn it around again and keep claiming it's because I'm a woman when you literally fired the first bullet.

Ode.

Insecure t.w.a.t.

If you were man enough, why you no fit keep all snide remarks aside without the subtle hint of your timidity showing? Ekwensu.

just one sentence

What if I write a paragraph on why women can't reason logically? You'd probably look for me and shoot me

Baitullah:
Until a strong man wins her (the prize) and turns the table where he becomes the prize

stop saying trash.

If women are the prize why seek equality with men?

kkins25:
You mean the same ways all women shoot their shots?Giving subliminal green light and waiting for the guy to make the first move. hahahahahahahah..

you get time dey read her post?.

budaatum:
If you don't already know then I'm delighted that you don't and wouldn't educate you so you know since it's a good thing that you don't know.

educated me? The efrontry though

kkins25:
You mean the same ways all women shoot their shots?Giving subliminal green light and waiting for the guy to make the first move. hahahahahahahah..

*One* of the many ways, as opposed to the *only* way. I beg you with the name of God, no swerve go another bend. And we're talking about a subset of women. The successful, sophisticated, educated, enlightened and perhaps liberal type. Ehen.

Thank you.

Baitullah:
Even when they do, they go about it subtly.

As I said, you don't have to be aggressive or harassing or ''hunt'' to show you like someone. Who says women have to be tactless and brash and offensive the way most men are? Secondly, subtly =/= lack of confidence. I don't know in what world or dictionary that is in.

Yes, subtlety MIGHT hint at a lack of confidence but it doesn't expressly and always mean that.

Finally, subtlety is one of the ways. I have been hammering this. And we're not talking about the general female population, take note.

Absolutely being tongue-tied and dying in silence like a mannequin is not the same thing as making subtle moves, if at all such women do that.

Thank you, too.

Premiumwriter:
you get time dey read her post?.

mang-- i mean magno, magno is what i meant.. pheww!!!- is always a good read. One of the few brains on the forum. i was being comical.

Premiumwriter:
stop saying trash.

If women are the prize why seek equality with men?

Understand me before you jerk my shirt egbon.

Not all men realize they are the prize, hence the need to unplug

Magnoliaa:
*One* of the many ways, as opposed to the *only* way. I beg you with the name of God, no swerve go another bend. And we're talking about a subset of women. The successful, sophisticated, educated, enlightened and perhaps liberal type. Ehen.

Thank you.



As I said, you don't have to be aggressive or harassing or ''hunt'' to show you like someone. Who says women have to be tactless and brash and offensive the way most men are? Secondly, subtly =/= lack of confidence. I don't know in what world or dictionary that is in.

Yes, subtlety MIGHT hint at a lack of confidence but it doesn't expressly and always mean that.

Finally, subtlety is one of the ways. I have been hammering this. And we're not talking about the general female population, take note.

Absolutely being tongue-tied and dying in silence like a mannequin is not the same thing as making subtle moves, if at all such women do that.

Thank you, too.

To you and your gender its one of the ways, to us, its like you're scared or something.. lol. nothing more glorious than getting subliminal messages from a woman..
Back in SSS a lady would offer to help you write notes or excahnge books..but her pen would be those scenty ones.. i miss the good old days.. like why do i have to escort you to the principals office? na me dem send? hahahahahahah... sorry i couldn't resist going down memory lane. Ladies are creative sha...i give u guys that. but you see no be that kind language we men understand. infact, we don't notice it until later when reflecting on life.. it den wed be like ehhhhhhhh, so rashida like me all does while... i F up...... hahaha

kkins25:
To you and your gender its one of the ways, to us, its like you're scared or something.. lol.

And to you and your gender, you're scared of the lady that is not scared.

nothing more glorious than getting subliminal messages from a woman..

Getting subliminal messages from women you consider scared is glorious? I seee.

Back in SSS a lady would offer to help you write notes or excahnge books..but her pen would be those scenty ones.. i miss the good old days.. like why do i have to escort you to the principals office? na me dem send? hahahahahahah... sorry i couldn't resist going down memory lane. Ladies are creative sha...i give u guys that. but you see no be that kind language we men understand. infact, we don't notice it until later when reflecting on life.. it den wed be like ehhhhhhhh, so rashida like me all does while... i F up...... hahaha

Duhh. What do you expect when we're literally socialised differently? So a lady should be brash and outspoken, chyking men she wants when the members of your biological group are lining up like monkeys on a tree to call her 'ashawo?' I have been called ashawo by numerous guys on here for flirting and being loud/sharing my opinions.

I'm not being a whiny, unaware and entitled cry-baby with delusions saying for a fact that most people (do) avoid interacting with me (off-line and online).

Candidlady:
°°°°°trying to caution myself°°°°°



Lemme just sit back with my mari and camp and enjoy the comments





Men are not attracted to intelligent women unless they are good looking, a study has found.

New research has confirmed the commonly held notion that the smarter a woman is, the less likely it is a man will fancy her.

Men are actively turned-off by cleverness, and the only exception to this is if the woman is highly attractive, a study by the Warsaw School of Economics found.

Most "intelligent women" are not attractive tho, we've seen this in tech. Go to science class. Of course there are exceptions.
Most beautiful are in Art class. Almost Always. Not so surprising.
It's almost as if the more academically astute a girl is, the more ugly she tend to be and vice versa.

Of course Men want beauty. I mean the dumb one can be taught but the ugly can hardly helped.
And women have their 300 laundry list of things they want in men. That's nature tho.


Bonus: [Women mostly brag about their conversational skills and intelligence when they are in the danger zone (late 20s) or no man's land (mid 30s and beyond), never when they're 18 - 25 ]

When you make enough money, speak very well, dress very well etc you don't notice these people. I mean you have a lot girls in your view already.
Why bother with trouble.

BTW, feminism was given (of course by SIMPs and crony capitalists), never fought for - I mean like real war..

Magnoliaa:
And to you and your gender, you're scared of the lady that is not scared.


Getting subliminal messages from women you consider scared is glorious? I seee.


Duhh. What do you expect when we're literally socialised differently? So a lady should be brash and outspoken, chyking men she wants when the members of your biological group are lining up like monkeys on a tree to call her 'ashawo?' I have been called ashawo by numerous guys on here for flirting and being loud/sharing my opinions.
I'm not being a whiny, unaware and entitled cry-baby with delusions when I say for a fact most people (do) avoid interacting with me (off-line and online).

Women are naturally and biologicaly (for emphasis sake) not aggressive. you just don't have the testestorones to be.

So it would mean you guys would express your aggression in different ways except not walking up to a guy and saying "hey, i like you and want you to be mine". no.

if a lady does dat self it would be a turn off..rather, a woman would communicate by maybe behaving somehow (I'm scared to use the word seductive - before LGBT feminist come for my job or worse my head. lol.. ).

i also don't believe women are socialized differently although there are influences from culture that affects the varying levels of expression in both genders.
for example, loving only one woman was found in some cultures (could one say advanced??) and not in others.

If not why do the girls choose to engage in drama, literature, fine art nd the likes over jet club, science club nd so on during after school events..

kkins25:
In this case i completely agree with Prof. Jordan Peterson.

we humans are eager to forget that even though we have built rockets and built space ships, we are not "God". we are still animals operating under the influence of hormones and chemical complexes.

Kindly speak for yourself Sir! "Hormones and chemical complexes" do not put food on the table last time I checked, which is why most of us humans (as opposed to the mindless animals some are), operate under the influence of our learning, and our intellect, and the proper understanding of things!

As for Jordan. Show me your friends!

If I hear!

Anyway it is not an issue of being scared. It is a matter of knowing yourself.

There are men who love assertive women. They don't see it an insult when their wife challenge their decision. Rather they will challenge back by bringing up a superior argument.

While there are also men who love women who are submissive. And I have notice that women are naturally submissive when a man is highly responsible or studiously do his duty as a man.

In other words a broke man shouldn't be looking for a submissive woman

budaatum:
Kindly speak for yourself Sir! "Hormones and chemical complexes" do not put food on the table last time I checked, which is why most of us humans (as opposed to the mindless animals some are), operate under the influence of our learning, and our intellect, and the proper understanding of things!

As for Jordan. Show me your friends!

If hormones don't influence who we are then LGBT is a scam!pumping testosterone into one's body wouldn't do shiit to change gender. hence again, SCAM!!!

if hormones don't influence who we are then women would commit crimes just as much as men.

if hormones don't influence who we are, they would never be addicts in the first place.

if hormones don't influence who we are then i wouldn't have transformed from a lovingbchild to a rebelious son when i turnes 13.

If you want to survive in the wild, you would need to have enough testosterone to Fight and flee.

Whilst leftist continue to push absorb theories like "there are no differences between men and women" and every thing is culture, then tell me, why are women the submissive ones in most cultures?

Even the Christian fathers knew this. thats why it is written the "flesh is weak but the spirit strong"

If hormones dont shape us, compulsive behaviours wouldn't exist.

if hormones and chemicals don't influence us, a murderer could not "plead insanity" as we see in courts today.

still think chemicals don't influence you, take a full glass of hennesy no ice. lets see how you fare?

I would be waiting.

you'd have found by now, that whennyou read provocative text, you sweat, heart pulse increases, you uneasiness.
whats causing all this things? the influx of andrenalin in the body.

On Jordan Peterson, let ye without sin cast the first stone.

budaatum:
Kindly speak for yourself Sir! "Hormones and chemical complexes" do not put food on the table last time I checked, which is why most of us humans (as opposed to the mindless animals some are), operate under the influence of our learning, and our intellect, and the proper understanding of things!

As for Jordan. Show me your friends!

oh just saw the link, ooops, blue light filter. id have to watch the show myseld md deduxe for myself.
As for western media, i take it with a grain of salt.. Not since after what they did to MJ. Fvck No!!
and oh yeah, Trevor Noah, a comedian has been labeled racist many times, Bill burr, samw, ehm this guy, whats his name, oh yeah, david Chapelle.. so it wasn't joe nd Peterson are not wrong in that aspect. Didn't the LGBT campaign for the dave chapelle show to ne canceled? the same media criticing joe now??
American media never ceases to amaze me just as much as they piss me off.. fvck em..
Thats what we get when millennial cry babies are giving too much social media influence..
Instead of fighting for equal rights dey are fighting for right to modify their teeths to vampires, tattoo their eyes and switch gender as they feel like.. fvck em again!!
No be the same media dey promote transracial people, fvck em times two..

Premiumwriter:
There's this skewed and lopsided narrative that men are scared of successful women by feminists mostly because they feel that:

1. Successful women takes away a man's previledge

2. Men have lower esteem and so are easily intimidated by ambitious women

3. Men will no longer be able to maltreat such women.

First of all, men are never scared of successful women (though some may be as there's always an EXCEPTION IN EVERY SOCIAL STATISTICS).

But most men are not. Rather it's a failure to understand simple basic principles of the dating process that made most women cling to this idea of men being intimated by successful women.

When a man is fit for marriage i.e the man has made all the money he wants (successful) and feels it is the right time for him to settle down, he goes on a hunt, he looks for the kind of woman he wants, one that fits his description of a good wife and marries her.

It doesn't matter if she is poor or rich, if she is submissive or not. He made his choice, chases that woman up and down until she agrees to his terms of marriage which sometimes can mean the woman becoming a house wife.

Now when a woman is successful and WITH US ALL BEING EQUAL, she never does what a man will do, instead she still want a man to chase her, marry her and then HE SHOULD AGREE TO HER TERMS.

This takes away all the power from the man and still expect him to carry out his responsibility.

A man by nature is a provider and as such will always try to gather his resources before looking for a woman that will agree to his terms of building a home.

If a woman will rather be the provider or the man in the relationship, then she must be prepared to wear that trouser all the way. She has the resources, it's up to her to go out there, pick a man, toast him and pay his groom price and then, the man is for the woman and not the woman for the man.

Most women today are not ambitious and do not seek to be ambitious and that makes the dating pool of submissive women large for men with resources to choose from.

This in turn diminishes the available men for women who are ambitious. For one, a man will rather be the man in his relationship than take the role of a woman.

It's not low self esteem, it's being what he is, a man. If a woman would rather take that role from him, then it's up to her to convince the man to stay in the relationship just as men convince women to remain in relationships.

So to sum it up, when a man is successful he goes with confidence to toast the kind of woman he wants. It's not low self esteem if he finds a submissive woman more tasty.

But a successful woman with all her resources still want a man with nothing to choose her, forgetting that in the dating pool and practically everywhere else, beggars are never choosers.

So, stop with the lopsided arguments.

@bolded: the skewed fallacy that has misled a lot of unprepared men into marriage.

A man isn't ready for marriage when or because he has money and wants to keep a woman. He is only ready for marriage when he has worked on his mind, changed his demanding and impossible ways of thinking, is ready to respect and be respected, and has decided not to be overbearing, to understand what leadership is about without misunderstanding control and true leadership, and is ready to sacrifice unconditionally for the well-being of his family and take on the role of a servant leader. Any man who looks for a way out of such things and is looking for marriage is a failure at it already.

That fallacy about success and money is why so many empty men who cannot sustain a relationship and have no endearing qualities fall back on having a lot of money end up destroying marriage, because money is a cover for so many lacking things and a marriage that will fail woefully.

Money will not guarantee the success of any family or relationship. Neither will looking for a woman to control while he is uncontrollable and evil himself.

kkins25:
As for western media, i take it with a grain of salt.. Not since after what they did to MJ. Fvck No!!

So, you are telling me you now use your mind. And I need not say how much that does delights me.

kkins25:
Instead of fighting for equal rights dey are fighting for right to modify their teeths to vampires, tattoo their eyes and switch gender as they feel like.. fvck em again!!
No be the same media dey promote transracial people, fvck em times two..

They are fighting for equal rights, kk. They started with equality of religions when they ran away from Europe. Then they fought for equality of human beings in their Civil War. Basically, baring crime, my rights are equal to your own rights regardless. And I think that's deserving of a nation that's been to the moon.

Had to look up Transracial (identity). "Having a racial identity or racial expression that differs from one's race of birth".

What's the problem, especially in a country where race is so mixed you could find a Chinese Japanese Native America Irish Italian African?

O! I so love their media. Think how they evolved from In the Beginning and you'd learn a thing or two too.

kkins25:
if hormones don't influence who we are then women would commit crimes just as much as men.

Are you suggesting that the fact I bake you in my oven and stick my tit in your mouth and wipe your bum and tears till the day that I die is not sufficient for me not to commit crimes?

I guess you don't know women. And all those others you claim hormones influence show you know nought about hormones too.

kkins25:
Whilst leftist continue to push absorb theories like "there are no differences between men and women" and every thing is culture, then tell me, why are women the submissive ones in most cultures?

Straw, kk! You make a woman of it to attack.

When your so called leftist say "there are no differences between men and women", they mean, 'treat men and women equally the same way without prejudice to gender'.

kkins25:
Even the Christian fathers knew this. thats why it is written the "flesh is weak but the spirit strong"

That was then. Read it. Understand it and evolve, please.

kkins25:
you'd have found by now, that whennyou read provocative text, you sweat, heart pulse increases, you uneasiness.
whats causing all this things? the influx of andrenalin in the body.

Are you two? Must you assume I who walks through the valley of the shadow of death without fear will tremble like two year old you "when you read provocative text"?

kkins25:
On Jordan Peterson, let ye without sin cast the first stone.

Don't be silly. You cast many stones yourself in this thread!

luvmijeje:
If I hear!

Anyway it is not an issue of being scared. It is a matter of knowing yourself.

There are men who love assertive women. They don't see it an insult when their wife challenge their decision. Rather they will challenge back by bringing up a superior argument.

While there are also men who love women who are submissive. And I have notice that women are naturally submissive when a man is highly responsible or studiously do his duty as a man.

In other words a broke man shouldn't be looking for a submissive woman

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I had to check your profile
So this is what your Bible teahes you?
Lmao
Ok

BRATISLAVA:
@bolded: the skewed fallacy that has misled a lot of unprepared men into marriage.

A man isn't ready for marriage when or because he has money and wants to keep a woman. He is only ready for marriage when he has worked on his mind, changed his demanding and impossible ways of thinking, is ready to respect and be respected, and has decided not to be overbearing, to understand what leadership is about without misunderstanding control and true leadership, and is ready to sacrifice unconditionally for the well-being of his family and take on the role of a servant leader. Any man who looks for a way out of such things and is looking for marriage is a failure at it already.

That fallacy about success and money is why so many empty men who cannot sustain a relationship and have no endearing qualities fall back on having a lot of money end up destroying marriage, because money is a cover for so many lacking things and a marriage that will fail woefully.

Money will not guarantee the success of any family or relationship. Neither will looking for a woman to control while he is uncontrollable and evil himself.

you are talking out of context bro.

No one says money is the all for marriage but in this particular we are referring to money

Premiumwriter:
you are talking out of context bro.

No one says money is the all for marriage but in this particular we are referring to money

No one said it, but you said it (money).

It may be out of context to you, but it is a fact that too many men see money as the reason to get married. They are looking for who to spend money on, not who to spend a lifetime with.