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Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by sonmvayina(m): 5:00pm On Feb 24, 2022
Watch, it I just 3 minutes...


https://fb.watch/bnp9HjjagM/
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by sonmvayina(m): 5:01pm On Feb 24, 2022
I think this human experience thingy would have been meaningless..
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by immortalcrown(m): 5:02pm On Feb 24, 2022
Because humans have roles in determining how the world should be for humans. If God gives us a perfect world, our potential will be purposeless.

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Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:07pm On Feb 24, 2022
Men people are so unjust and evil.

Clearly, God created a perfect world then by the doing the will of Satan, man ruined it.

But now seeing this ruin, this evil is now speaking upside down.
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:12pm On Feb 24, 2022
immortalcrown:
Because humans have roles in determining how the world should be for humans...

Correction!

Humans determined whether God should make the world perfect once again.

BUT THEY FAILED!

AND NOW, THEY IT IS OVER. THEY HAVE GUARANTEED THAT IT SHOULD BE DESTROYED.
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by Franzinni: 6:23pm On Feb 24, 2022
You can only see imperfection because you have an imagination of what perfection should be ... but even when you reach it the post shifts ... the most perfect thing in life is the fact that all living things must.....

Die.
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:42pm On Feb 24, 2022
According to Genesis 1:31 it was a PERFECT world! smiley
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by johnydon22(m): 8:24pm On Feb 24, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
Men people are so unjust and evil.

Clearly, God created a perfect world then by the doing the will of Satan, man ruined it.

But now seeing this ruin, this evil is now speaking upside down.

If the world had a potentiality to be ruined, that in itself is an imperfection of state. Hence, God couldn't have possibly created a perfect world. If God created a perfect world, such a world would have no potentiality to be ruined. It remains unchangingly perfect.

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Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by johnydon22(m): 8:24pm On Feb 24, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
According to Genesis 1:31 it was a PERFECT world! smiley
Is the world imperfect now?
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by Jokerman(m): 8:55pm On Feb 24, 2022
God did not create an imperfect world.

Man lost the perfect world at the Garden of Eden. Satan and the fallen angels along with Nephilim corrupted Man, and the sin as limped of ever since.... however the perfect earth is coming back soon through the Lord Jesus Christ. Those who are dead are lying in wait, preparing for the arrival of the master at the last Trump to inherit the new world, along with those whom would he raptured after defeating the antics of the antichrist.
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:27pm On Feb 24, 2022
johnydon22:


If the world had a potentiality to be ruined, that in itself is an imperfection of state.

This is most untrue and you know it A beautiful cake is first perfect before Susan Myer fell on it. Rose flower was perfect before Okupe's cutlass destroyed it. Sister Nkechi was perfect before Pastor Ade ruined her. Mr Okon's marriage was perfect before Mrs Okon ruined it with her cheating. The Ocean was perfect before pollution destroyed it.

So, in this world, we have things that were perfect just before they got ruined.

And thus, you are only exhibitng that you do not know the difference between perfection and rigidity.
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by Myer(m): 9:39pm On Feb 24, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:
Men people are so unjust and evil.

Clearly, God created a perfect world then by the doing the will of Satan, man ruined it.

But now seeing this ruin, this evil is now speaking upside down.

This is biblically untrue.

Even before man was created in the beginning, the earth was void and without void.
That means the earth was already imperfect before man.
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by budaatum: 9:42pm On Feb 24, 2022
Can someone please tell these people no God made any world except biblically because the ignorance is becoming very painful!

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Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by Kobojunkie: 10:07pm On Feb 24, 2022
immortalcrown:
Because humans have roles in determining how the world should be for humans. If God gives us a perfect world, our potential will be purposeless.
What exactly is your definition of the word "perfect" here? undecided

According to Scripture, God did create a perfect world.... it was Good by His standard. So, where does your ruling that God instead created an imperfect world come from? undecided
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:07pm On Feb 24, 2022
Myer:


This is biblically untrue.

Even before man was created in the beginning, the earth was void and without void.
That means the earth was already imperfect before man.

Why is this a day of shit filled people?

Before a beautiful cake was made, it was a messy mix of eggs, milk and flour. (Raw materials). Same for Ferrari, Lamborghini, even food and soups.

So, how can you people be so unjust and evil to not appreciate the value of raw materials before they are made into beautiful perfect creations?

Ah! Lord please Come!
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by Kobojunkie: 10:09pm On Feb 24, 2022
sonmvayina:
I think this human experience thingy would have been meaningless..
Which God created the imperfect world you speak of? This since the God of the Bible is written to have created a perfect World- by His standard, He gave it a rating of Good.... His highest rating , mind you. undecided
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by Kobojunkie: 10:10pm On Feb 24, 2022
johnydon22:
Is the world imperfect now?
It may not be perfect now but it was created perfect this as judged by God Himself. However, since man, whom God created and made caretakers of this once perfect world became cursed by God, so also the world man was to care for eventually became unholy as a result of man's presence and influence. undecided
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by Hier(m): 10:46pm On Feb 24, 2022
Everything God created was good, until man disobeyed God's instructions, became a slave of another master which he chose to obey then the devil made the world an imperfect one, cause he cometh to steal, kill and destroy
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by RepoMan007: 11:48pm On Feb 24, 2022
When you consider the reality of restitution, reconciliation, judgement day and more, you realize the world is a perfect one.
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by Nobody: 12:42am On Feb 25, 2022
sonmvayina:
Watch, it I just 3 minutes...
https://fb.watch/bnp9HjjagM/

Nice one. GOD has given the secret of this world to true Jewish Rabbis. The New Testament is a SCAM but GOD brought good out of it to give us access to the Old Testament where we can find HIM and for us to make the Old Testament perfect.

Here is the Full Transcript on youtube:

Transcript 00:00 i need you to hear this 00:01 because we could do an entire lecture on 00:03 just this idea but we'll condense it you 00:06 know that there are people who believe 00:08 to this day and who believed in ancient 00:10 times that practicing medicine was a sin 00:15 why christian science 00:17 god made you sick because god does 00:19 everything god is responsible for 00:20 everything if you're sick it must be 00:21 because god wants you to be sick so who 00:23 are you to make somebody well 00:26 you're going against god's will 00:28 you understand that with that logic you 00:30 could negate all of science all of 00:32 progress 00:34 wright brothers who were you who met the 00:36 plane if god would have wanted you to 00:37 fly he would have been in your wings 00:39 right you don't have wings you shouldn't 00:40 fly 00:42 whatever is and hence the will of god 00:46 and hence who are you to tamper with it 00:48 and what does the jews say 00:50 whatever is isn't 00:53 the ideal because god leaves a role for 00:56 us to play as partners with god in the 00:59 divine drama 01:02 of bringing about 01:03 perfection of the world which is called 01:06 tikkun olam 01:08 perfecting the universe there is a 01:10 remarkable 01:12 series of stories in the midrash about 01:15 events that essentially took place 01:16 between turnus rufus and roman governor 01:19 and rabbi akiva and the roman governor 01:22 in one instance says to rabbi akiva how 01:25 dare you give charity to the poor god 01:27 obviously wanted them to be poor if they 01:29 are poor 01:30 how dare you 01:32 change what god intended and in another 01:35 version of the story 01:37 he says to him how dare you practice 01:39 medicine 01:40 if god didn't want to be sick you 01:41 wouldn't be sick and in the third 01:43 version of the story which is the most 01:45 fascinating he says to him you people 01:47 are a very stupid people who are 01:49 rebellious against god because the very 01:51 first thing you do when god presents you 01:53 with a male child is 01:55 to snip off a little peace 01:57 how dare you alter 01:59 what god has given you and the response 02:01 to that is well god 02:03 told us 02:04 he didn't finish 02:06 creating human beings 02:08 we are meant 02:10 to complete ourselves 02:12 and therefore god 02:14 left a task for us as a symbol of the 02:17 fact 02:18 that the world is unfinished on what day 02:22 is britt mila 02:24 and why is that because in seven days 02:28 god created the world 02:30 and on the eighth day god says now 02:34 you take over and now you continue the 02:36 task of creation 02:40 ani 02:43 i'm mispronouncing it purposely 02:46 i am the god shall omar die who said 02:48 enough at a certain point i didn't 02:50 finish the job because i leave the rest 02:52 for you to complete 02:57 so being a doctor is a mitzvah but how 02:58 could you heal the sick 03:00 because that's what god wants us to do 03:02 to become partners with him in the act 03:05 of creation that is a quote from the 03:07 talmud you will show me the jerusalem 03:09 talmud amazing 03:11 so jews are doctors 03:14 and jews 03:17 said when they looked at the world 03:21 this is the way it is 03:23 but not the way it should be 03:25 and the reason it isn't the way it 03:27 should be yet is because god said no 03:30 i went as far as i wanted to go 03:34 let's see what you can do and let's see 03:35 how you can become a partner with me in 03:37 bringing about perfection 03:40 the roar jewish learning institute has 03:42 the largest collection of Jewish media 03:44 online hit subscribe for more


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQthe2ZJTYs

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Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by Cordenify(m): 1:31am On Feb 25, 2022
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:31am On Feb 25, 2022
johnydon22:
Is the world imperfect now?
Perfect as ever! smiley
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by killyaselfie: 6:14am On Feb 25, 2022
MindHacker9000:


Nice one. GOD has given the secret of this world to true Jewish Rabbis. The New Testament is a SCAM but GOD brought good out of it to give us access to the Old Testament where we can find HIM and for us to make the Old Testament perfect.


With this veneration of Jews and their Old Testament where you can find “Him”, you are implying that they are better than you and that you’re secondary to these “chosen people”.

You post the video called Caesar’s Messiah, which contain some inaccuracies but overall does a good job talking about Roman history in Palestine.

The mother of the Roman emperor is said to have chosen the site of the empty tomb of Jesus and the “true cross” 300+ years after the alleged fact. The Romans did not invent the wheel of deception but merely adorned with more bells and whistles. What makes you confident that the “true Jewish rabbis” aren’t part of the same tradition of lies and deceptions?

If the Romans had a hand in creating Jesus, what makes you think the Jews didn’t create “Him” who declared them the “chosen people”?
What makes Jews so special that their mythology, fairies tales, and legends are reality?!!!

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Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by killyaselfie: 6:17am On Feb 25, 2022
sonmvayina:
Watch, it I just 3 minutes...


https://fb.watch/bnp9HjjagM/

We have to confer with Omenani and perform Ifa divinations before we can verify the claims of the chosen Jew in the video.
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:25am On Feb 25, 2022
Kobojunkie:
It may not be perfect now but it was created perfect this as judged by God Himself. However, since man, whom God created and made caretakers of this once perfect world became cursed by God, so also the world man was to care for eventually became unholy as a result of man's presence and influence. undecided
If humans are wiped out of this planet you will know that it has been perfect all along, it's the humans that's making life unbearable for all other creatures on this planet.
Everything is working PERFECTLY the way God planned right from the beginning but since God didn't PROGRAM humans like other creatures our rebelliousness has caused all the troubles on this planet!
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by Nobody: 9:54am On Feb 25, 2022
killyaselfie:
With this veneration of Jews and their Old Testament where you can find “Him”, you are implying that they are better than you and that you’re secondary to these “chosen people”.

You post the video called Caesar’s Messiah, which contain some inaccuracies but overall does a good job talking about Roman history in Palestine.

The mother of the Roman emperor is said to have chosen the site of the empty tomb of Jesus and the “true cross” 300+ years after the alleged fact. The Romans did not invent the wheel of deception but merely adorned with more bells and whistles. What makes you confident that the “true Jewish rabbis” aren’t part of the same tradition of lies and deceptions?

If the Romans had a hand in creating Jesus, what makes you think the Jews didn’t create “Him” who declared them the “chosen people”?
What makes Jews so special that their mythology, fairies tales, and legends are reality?!!!

Lets use the Benin Kingdom as an analogy, which is a recent event in history. When the Europeans conquered Benin and took the artifacts to museums in Europe and around the world, they were amazed at the advanced art works they found in the Benin Kingdom.
Now imagine it was the Benin Juju religion they were so amazed with that they decided to take the Juju scrolls from the palace in Benin to the secret chambers of their palace in Europe and did not allow the public to see it unlike the artifacts they put on display for the public to see. Then with the help of a Benin high priest that has switched sides to the Europeans after his town was also conquered were able to write a New Testament to put on top of the Old Testament Juju scrolls which now gave them access to the God of the Old Testament and just as it is now that billions of people around the world are now serving the Old Testament God in the Juju scrolls as they all want to be part of the chosen people in the Old Testament of the Juju scrolls. Now would such an event not make you believe that the Benin people are a special people. Based on such a similar historical event with the Jews to me they are a special people to GOD and GOD has now given us access to HIM in the Old Testament to allow us to make words about HIM perfect in the Old Testament as there are some imperfections in the Old Testament.

Regarding the event 300 years later, you have mixed the video you mentioned with another video as the event that took place 300 years later is to do with Constantine and his mum and is not related to the events 300 years before relating to Caesar and the Roman occupation of Israel.

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Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by Sarcastic101: 11:22am On Feb 25, 2022
How would you say that the world God created is imperfect,have you seen a perfect world before?
Just like saying that a drawing isn't correct but you don't have a correct drawing yet

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Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:35pm On Feb 25, 2022
Sarcastic101:
How would you say that the world God created is imperfect,have you seen a perfect world before?
Just like saying that a drawing isn't correct but you don't have a correct drawing yet

Their problem is lack of understanding the word "PERFECT"
Because humans were able to make life miserable for themselves and other creatures on the planet doesn't mean it wasn't created perfectly.
The earth has everything we need to sustain life, a perfect water circle, the atmosphere that sustains the needed gases for life, gravitational force has continued without defect so what exactly is their definition of the word "PERFECT" if the earth can do all of that? smiley
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by Nobody: 12:47pm On Feb 25, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

Everything is working PERFECTLY the way God planned right from the beginning but since God didn't PROGRAM humans like other creatures our rebelliousness has caused all the troubles on this planet!

So GOD created other creatures perfect!

Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by killyaselfie: 12:50pm On Feb 25, 2022
MindHacker9000:


Lets use the Benin Kingdom as an analogy, which is a recent event in history. When the Europeans conquered Benin and took the artifacts to museums in Europe and around the world, they were amazed at the advanced art works they found in the Benin Kingdom.
Now imagine it was the Benin Juju religion they were so amazed with that they decided to take the Juju scrolls from the palace in Benin to the secret chambers of their palace in Europe and did not allow the public to see it unlike the artifacts they put on display for the public to see.

Why should anyone be impressed with god of the conquered or any god at all?
What is Benin “juju religion”?
The way you talk about your culture smacks of European bigotry.

The word juju is believed to be derived from the French “joujou” meaning plaything.

MindHacker9000:

Then with the help of a Benin high priest that has switched sides to the Europeans after his town was also conquered were able to write a New Testament to put on top of the Old Testament Juju scrolls which now gave them access to the God of the Old Testament and just as it is now that billions of people around the world are now serving the Old Testament God in the Juju scrolls as they all want to be part of the chosen people in the Old Testament of the Juju scrolls.

Again, the new testament wasn’t created with the help of one renegade priest who switched sides. Regardless, slapping one scroll on top another does not mean they have access to a supernatural entity. All it means is that the collection of scrolls got larger.

Billions of people believe in the Jewish god because it’s the symbol of conquest for the people who adopted it and found it useful in psychological warfare. That’s why you call your indigenous beliefs “juju” but the white washed jewish juju is “GOD”.
People didn’t discard their own gods because the Jew god is real.
Some people are said to have adopted Islam in order to facilitate trade with the Muslim trading caravans. Does that mean the god of the Arabs is real?

Also, the billions you refer to view the god through the lens of the New Testament not the old.

So if the Romans had arrived in, and conquered, Benin, taken their sacred scrolls to Rome etc would that make the Benin’s sacred writings true?!

MindHacker9000:


Now would such an event not make you believe that the Benin people are a special people.


No, why would I think anyone is special? Aren’t they humans?!!!!

MindHacker9000:

Based on such a similar historical event with the Jews to me they are a special people to GOD and GOD has now given us access to HIM in the Old Testament to allow us to make words about HIM perfect in the Old Testament as there are some imperfections in the Old Testament. .

First of all, the story of the renegade priest (Josephus) creating the New Testament is not true

Secondly, the deity of the jews didn’t give access to anything and your “access to him” is thanks to the printing press and general literacy.

Thirdly, you are asserting your own inferiority by claiming that there is something special about Jews regardless of the convoluted reasons.

MindHacker9000:

Regarding the event 300 years later, you have mixed the video you mentioned with another video as the event that took place 300 years later is to do with Constantine and his mum and is not related to the events 300 years before relating to Caesar and the Roman occupation of Israel.

I didn’t mix anything up. Caesar is a title not a name. Constantine was also a Caesar and it was doing his reign that the disparate philosophies of the Christians began to be standardized. The claim regarding Vespasian , who became a Caesar, carrying the Old Testament to Rome and creating the New Testament is the part of the video that is inaccurate.

Unless you didn’t watch the video you like to post, this should be clear. The Constantine affair is even in the video subsequent to Vespasian and Titus’ actions in the years 67-70.

Also, it wasn’t the New Testament that was allegedly created by the “renegade priest” but the gospels, which is also an inaccurate claim.
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by killyaselfie: 1:05pm On Feb 25, 2022
sonmvayina:
Watch, it I just 3 minutes...


https://fb.watch/bnp9HjjagM/

Omenani and Ifa confirm that Jew boy in the video is full of it.
Re: Why Did God Create An Imperfect World? by Nobody: 1:46pm On Feb 25, 2022
killyaselfie:
Why should anyone be impressed with god of the conquered or any god at all?
What is Benin “juju religion”?
The way you talk about your culture smacks of European bigotry.

The word juju is believed to be derived from the French “joujou” meaning plaything.

I will respond to your post one by one in new posts.

Why is it a “culture smacks of European bigotry”, were they not amazed by the advanced bronze sculptures they took away to Europe. Same way the Romans were amazed at the Jewish religion based on Jewish scrolls which made up their religious messianic prophesies and not statures which were the Romans own way of their religion.
Where the Romans practicing the New Testament based on the Old Testement before they occupied Israel. The answer is NO, so how come later they are now worshipping a Jewish GOD which they have even taken around the world, why do you not see this to be [religion smacks of European bigotry]. From the historical account in the video the Jews were able to initially defeat the Romans.

The word joujou in French in no way implies that West Africans derived the name and practice from the name joujou in French.
Juju or ju-ju (French: joujou, lit. 'plaything')[1][2] is a spiritual belief system incorporating objects, such as amulets, and spells used in religious practice in West Africa[3] by the people of Ghana, Nigeria and Cameroon.[4] The term has been applied to traditional African religions.[5]
In a general sense the term "juju" can be used to refer to magical properties dealing with good luck.[6]
History

The term "juju" appeared in connection with the Priest-Kings of towns in West Africa, upon whom the prosperity of towns was believed to depend.[7] This is recorded by Sir James George Frazer in Folk-Lore (Vol. XXVI.) He prints, under the title A Priest-King in Nigeria, a communication received from Mr. P. A. Talbot, District Commissioner in S. Nigeria. The writer states that the dominant Ju-Ju of Elele, a town in the N.W. of the Degema district, is a Priest-King, elected for a term of seven years. "The whole prosperity of the town, especially the fruitfulness of farm, byre, and marriage-bed, was linked with his life. Should he fall sick, it entailed family of gana and grave disaster upon the inhabitants."[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juju

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