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Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by boyfrank: 1:14pm On Mar 03, 2022
Ykc2:
why you guys dey waste una time dey reply one abokki or muric member that changed his or her name to michelle? undecided

Men, replying those olodos ca make I loose brain cells.
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by InHeaven(m): 1:14pm On Mar 03, 2022
Because money was not made to your thinking, it shouldn't have been done?
I'm surprised.

Theunbothered:


Please tell me how much money has Nigeria made from the train and how much is our debt to built it?

While you're you're doing that also remind me what happened to Nigeria Air, Buhari's refineries and the Siemens power project.
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by TalkingBird: 1:15pm On Mar 03, 2022
It will only get worse.

Same mistake will be made again.
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by VULCAN(m): 1:16pm On Mar 03, 2022
This post below is one of the best examples I have seen in a while of missing the point, deflecting and answering a question you were not asked all rolled into one.

Bravo.


Michelle70:
Jonathan in time of plenty was wasteful.

As a business man, I know that the time of plenty is the time to plan for the future.

Nigeria case is lack of progressive leaders and tribalistic youths.
Lagos is what it is because of leaders that plan for the future.
look at China, when they were busy producing China phones, we make mockery of them that there products doesn't last, but today I am typing this with China phone and u are probably reading with Chinese phone.

2moro, ur children will still blame govt while ur voursemates could be millionaires

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Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by Basudua28405: 1:17pm On Mar 03, 2022
Roger3D:
The value of N140 in 2012 is not the same as the N140 in 2022. Taking into consideration inflation ad other economic factors, Jonathan was most likely asking us to pay an equivalent of N350 per liter in today's money so the protest back then was justified

U talk as if inflation is a natural phenomenon, what was the inflation rate then and now. Bro u should know that leaders and their policies cause inflation.
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by mkoabiola: 1:18pm On Mar 03, 2022
No sane mind should argue with Buhari supporter


Buhari is d worst leader in history of Nigeria.
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by DeepSight(m): 1:19pm On Mar 03, 2022
wirinet:


Gbam. Jonathan was wasteful, Buhari is directionless.

I was shocked shocked when he lied that Jonathan increased the foreign reserves. I asked which foreign reserves? Maybe their personal foreign reserves, but Jonathan depleted the foreign reserves left by Yaradua and was borrowing to pay salaries.

But the borrowing of this gwament no get part 2 oh. Future gwaments go suffer am.
And secondly it was the APC and Buhari who cried and wept the most over subsidy. What has become of subsidy under them?

Buhari is a ghost president. Nigeria is being ruled by the presidency.

Gbam.
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by Nobody: 1:19pm On Mar 03, 2022
flokii:


You people should continue destroying the economy of Nigeria with monopoly given to people like Dangote with ban placed on Importation.

Dangote on cement competes with Lafarge, BUA and Ibeto

Dangote refinery is up against 5 other private refineries, BUA is also building a refinery that refines everything but PMS, and there are 20 other refineries licensed.

Monopoly ke.?


What stops the govt. owned refineries from working while private business owners too like Dangote run theirs? by so doing the demand won't exceed supply so price won't go unreasonably high that'll in turn put pressure on the naira and weaken our currency in the foreign exchange market.

(I am not a government drone, so I hate saying what I have to say next)

1) NNPC is fixing two of its refineries. (Right, drone job over, back to reality)


2.We have bad government refineries because government forced them to sell fuel at a loss, and paid a subsidy that did not cover the losses adequately. Refinery operates at a loss, it cannot be maintained and upgraded. Result...bad refinery (Corruption and sabotage finish off the job)

3.Subsidy money comes from the crude oil revenue. The more we spend it on subsidy, the less forex we have to buffer the naira, so value of naira falls.

Incase you don't know the ills of what those in govt. are doing, the poverty rate in Nigeria will rapidly increase and prices of foodstuffs in the market will go up beyond normal and even graduates who earn next to nothing will turn beggars on the streets. Continue blowing grammar till reality will hit you in the face.

Whereas, if we keep subsidy, we keep on running deficit budgets, and this too affects the poor badly as well. Right now, we have to find 3 trillion naira from somewhere, anywhere, to pay this year's subsidy costs, with a chance that we would have to pay more before the year runs out due to high crude prices.


Welcome to business. people need to make money to pay for their businesses to run well. And yes, it means prices go up. I don't like it, but there it effing is.
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by Strategical2022(m): 1:19pm On Mar 03, 2022
We now realise the truth from the past administration to this current one.
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by kenex4ever(m): 1:20pm On Mar 03, 2022
Michelle70:
Jonathan in time of plenty was wasteful.

As a business man, I know that the time of plenty is the time to plan for the future.

Nigeria case is lack of progressive leaders and tribalistic youths.
Lagos is what it is because of leaders that plan for the future.
look at China, when they were busy producing China phones, we make mockery of them that there products doesn't last, but today I am typing this with China phone and u are probably reading with Chinese phone.

2moro, ur children will still blame govt while ur voursemates could be millionaires
Which lagos leaders??

Are they not the people in Federal power now? Fashola, Aregbeshola, Osibanjo etc. What have they planned to help Nigeria other than to sink it??
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by mywells: 1:22pm On Mar 03, 2022
Hell rufai dare not open his mouth and some other cowards that would die screaming dare not open that anus call mouth.
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by DeepSight(m): 1:24pm On Mar 03, 2022
backbencher:


Dangote on cement competes with Lafarge, BUA and Ibeto

Dangote refinery is up against 5 other private refineries, BUA is also building a refinery that refines everything but PMS, and there are 20 other refineries licensed.

Monopoly ke.?

(I am not a government drone, so I hate saying what I have to say next)

1) NNPC is fixing two of its refineries. (Right, drone job over, back to reality)

2.We have bad government refineries because government forced them to sell fuel at a loss, and paid a subsidy that did not cover the losses adequately. Refinery operates at a loss, it cannot be maintained and upgraded. Result...bad refinery (Corruption and sabotage finish off the job)

Whereas, if we keep subsidy, we keep on running deficit budgets, and this too affects the poor badly

Welcome to business. people need to make money to pay for their businesses to run well. And yes, it means prices go up. I don't like it, but there it effing is.

I like the humour with which you interlace even your difficult points. Thats a rare and graceful skill and virtue. Having said that, even if Dangote is not a "monopoly" in many of the sectors it does business in, one cannot escape the feeling that Dangote is the face of, and trustee of, the Nigerian establishment.

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Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by jeffoe(m): 1:28pm On Mar 03, 2022
It is table manners I guess. You don't talk while you eat
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by kolaaderin: 1:33pm On Mar 03, 2022
Chimezirim121:

You mean Buhari's time is not a time of plenty?
its never a time of plenty. Buhari was just unfortunate with the recession. He was handed an economy nose diving into recession, oil price drops heavily and then just at the point of recovery, the world shot down on corona virus again. Against all odd, economic diversification is ongoing and of course people were seriously hit with the Crisis. Not until few weeks ago that the oil price is returning to normal and its so because of the Russian war, this will also comes with many other negative consequences on other economic counters as the increase in oil price is not a natural one but induced due to the war ongoing.
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by Nobody: 1:36pm On Mar 03, 2022
DeepSight:


I like the humour with which you interlace even your difficult points. Thats a rare and graceful skill and virtue. Having said that, even if Dangote is not a "monopoly" in many of the sectors it does business in, one cannot escape the feeling that Dangote is the face of, and trustee of, the Nigerian establishment.

1.Thank you, but I am not always successful keeping my cool.I try though.

2.Dangote does get some 'preferential treatment', but on the cement thing, he got a license under the same conditions as Ibeto and Lafarge, so his success cannot be because someone gave him special treatment, and as for the refinery, he took a lot of loans from the banks who gave him the loans because (I suspect)they know they can take over his other lucrative assets to pay themselves should he default.
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by slickgirl: 1:38pm On Mar 03, 2022
Hatred and tribalism those are the major problems of this country.
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by MrPaul2: 1:39pm On Mar 03, 2022
Michelle70:


PDP didn't do anything back then to secure the future of Nigeria.
No road, electricity was epileptic, corruption was ceiling level, nothing was working in Nigeria, u were brainwashed to think things were working cos there is money to throw around
Are they working now? So we have 24hours light supplies and the megawatts are in multiples now abi. Cost of living is now very reduce and fuel pump price is now N65. Our foreign reserves has increased geometrically and forest trade is now wow. How about the minimum wage? It can get you 9 bags of rice. They are all happening because bubu is the president and he has the likes of your kind to support him. No more bribery in any sector in Nigeria.

Can you see, you are part of our problem?

Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by mmsen: 1:40pm On Mar 03, 2022
Michelle70:
Jonathan in time of plenty was wasteful.

As a business man, I know that the time of plenty is the time to plan for the future.

Nigeria case is lack of progressive leaders and tribalistic youths.
Lagos is what it is because of leaders that plan for the future.
look at China, when they were busy producing China phones, we make mockery of them that there products doesn't last, but today I am typing this with China phone and u are probably reading with Chinese phone.

2moro, ur children will still blame govt while ur voursemates could be millionaires

Nigeria has never had 'plenty' because the population doubles every 25 years in a country with serious infrastructure deficits across the board.

Nigeria bragging about savings is like a man with ten children boasting about how he as 100k USD in his account, meanwhile he has no house, no clothes, his wife is naked and seven of his children have never seen a school classroom.
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by Nobody: 1:40pm On Mar 03, 2022
kolaaderin:
its never a time of plenty. Buhari was just unfortunate with the recession. He was handed an economy nose diving into recession, oil price drops heavily and then just at the point of recovery, the world shot down on corona virus again. Against all odd, economic diversification is ongoing and of course people were seriously hit with the Crisis. Not until few weeks ago that the oil price is returning to normal and its so because of the Russian war, this will also comes with many other negative consequences on other economic counters as the increase in oil price is not a natural one but induced due to the war ongoing.

Yes, we know Buhari was unfortunate with the recession, but there were tools he could have used to mitigate the problem, like removing subsides on petrol and power, and dealing with corruption as he promised.

And we ain't divesifying properly (and no, rice is not a good example.
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by flokii: 1:44pm On Mar 03, 2022
backbencher:


Dangote on cement competes with Lafarge, BUA and Ibeto

Dangote refinery is up against 5 other private refineries, BUA is also building a refinery that refines everything but PMS, and there are 20 other refineries licensed.

Monopoly ke.?




(I am not a government drone, so I hate saying what I have to say next)

1) NNPC is fixing two of its refineries. (Right, drone job over, back to reality)


2.We have bad government refineries because government forced them to sell fuel at a loss, and paid a subsidy that did not cover the losses adequately. Refinery operates at a loss, it cannot be maintained and upgraded. Result...bad refinery (Corruption and sabotage finish off the job)

3.Subsidy money comes from the crude oil revenue. The more we spend it on subsidy, the less forex we have to buffer the naira, so value of naira falls.



Whereas, if we keep subsidy, we keep on running deficit budgets, and this too affects the poor badly as well. Right now, we have to find 3 trillion naira from somewhere, anywhere, to pay this year's subsidy costs, with a chance that we would have to pay more before the year runs out due to high crude prices.


Welcome to business. people need to make money to pay for their businesses to run well. And yes, it means prices go up. I don't like it, but there it effing is.

Our problem in this country is that we don't weigh things well before embarking on them.. if after everything, Dangote gets to buy sweet Nigerian crude oil at naira rate instead of dollar rate like most investors do and still want to benchmark his refinery output sales at dollar rate... then something is seriously wrong.

If PMS sells at #1200 per litre in Nigeria for example and sells for less than #200 per litre in Benin republic, Ghana or Togo, what impression are you giving the world about Nigeria?

I don't think you know how hard things are biting with the current price of fuel, not to talk of post Dangote refinery era. It's those that are birthing kids like rabbits that I kuku pity.. serious crisis looming in this country if care is not taken.
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by DeepSight(m): 1:45pm On Mar 03, 2022
backbencher:


1.Thank you, but I am not always successful keeping my cool.I try though.

2.Dangote does get some 'preferential treatment', but on the cement thing, he got a license under the same conditions as Ibeto and Lafarge, so his success cannot be because someone gave him special treatment, and as for the refinery, he took a lot of loans from the banks who gave him the loans because (I suspect)they know they can take over his other lucrative assets to pay themselves should he default.

One also has the feeling that there has been a conspiracy of deliberate neglect on the government refineries for the purpose of driving filthy lucre in alternative arrangements. It is insufficient to say NNPC is doing anything about them considering the abominable and unpardonable length of time they have been quite useless - in spite of huge allocations for alleged TAM.
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by COMPAQ(m): 1:46pm On Mar 03, 2022
boyfrank:


What exactly is ur point. During GEJ era crude was not even upto $100 per barrel and u claimed his era was time of plenty. Abeg I don't do well with anything supporting Buhari so park

GEJ actually had the best crude prices of any President in Nigeria's history

Jonathan was President from 2010-2015 and from the chart crude averaged about $90 during his tenor, peaking at $114

Average under Buhari has been about $55.

Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by Nobody: 1:47pm On Mar 03, 2022
flokii:


Our problem in this country is that we don't weigh things well before embarking on them.. if after everything, Dangote gets to buy sweet Nigerian crude oil at naira rate instead of dollar rate like most investors do and still want to benchmark his refinery output sales at dollar rate... then something is seriously wrong.

If PMS sells at #1200 per litre for example and sells for less than #200 per litre in Benin republic, Ghana or Togo, what impression are you giving the world about Nigeria?

I don't think you know how hard things are biting with the current price of fuel. not to talk of post Dangote refinery era. It's those that are birthing kids like rabbits that I kuku pity.. serious crisis looming in this country if care is not taken.

Removing subsidy does not mean fuel would cost 1200 naira. That's an exaggeration.

Also, keeping subsidy means continued deficit budgets and more debt and no refineries. And more issues for our economy. You want that?
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by DeepSight(m): 1:47pm On Mar 03, 2022
flokii:


I don't think you know how hard things are biting with the current price of fuel. not to talk of post Dangote refinery era. It's those that are birthing kids like rabbits that I kuku pity.. serious crisis looming in this country if care is not taken.

Nigeria needs a radical population control policy, but perish the thought of ever seeing that. Northern Muslims in particular will scream blue murder at any attempt to constrict four wives and fifty children.
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by jaytee01(m): 1:48pm On Mar 03, 2022
Michelle70:
the truth is bitter.
Ur Otueke thief couldn't even build the mbiama bridge that leads to his state, I was on that bridge back in 2015 during heavy traffic along mbiama and the bridge was shaking like hell, I was scared it could collapse.
It was Buhari that had to rebuild a bridge leading to Bayelsa.
It will never be well with whoever supports GEJ
I am not surprised because most Buhari supporters are shallow, stupid morons who have outsourced their reasoning to Lai Mohammed and his gang of propagandists.

If you were not irredeemably brainwashed, you will know that the vegetable that you worship has set this country back by 100 years.

By the way, you are advertising your naivety, fighting online while the children of these criminals who masquerade as "men of integrity" are cashing out in billions , living a life that you cannot have in your wildest dreams!

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Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by chuksPraise50(m): 1:48pm On Mar 03, 2022
Roger3D:
You're ignorant about current world economic trends that's why you blame Buhari for your present economic woes. Listen here the whole world economy is currently undergoing inflationary pressures due to the economic recession brought about by the corvid 19 pandemic and not just Nigeria alone. The USA is experiencing its highest inflation rate in 40 years long before you were even born. The price of wheat has gone up 33%, maize 50% and vegetable oil 100% worldwide (Source; UNFAO). I guess Buhari is to blame for all of that too
....Guy rest your comment is making me sick..As if you are being paid to support evil
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by Theunbothered: 1:50pm On Mar 03, 2022
InHeaven:
Because money was not made to your thinking, it shouldn't have been done?
I'm surprised.


You're saying Buhari was better than Jonathan because of infrastructure yet we can not feel the effects of the so called infrastructure in our lives.

Just pictures and insallah
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by flokii: 1:51pm On Mar 03, 2022
backbencher:


Removing subsidy does not mean fuel would cost 1200 naira. That's an exaggeration.

Also, keeping subsidy means continued deficit budgets and more debt and no refineries. And more issues for our economy. You want that?

It's not a matter of what I want but what is sustainable.. in a country with the highest rate of unemployed youths and underpaid workers, any wrong political move will mar our collective destines as a people. That is what I don't want.

We are complaining of high crime rate due to hardship, yet some of you still think it's cool for prices of basic commodities to be going up. That's not in anyway fair.
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by COMPAQ(m): 1:51pm On Mar 03, 2022
backbencher:


Removing subsidy does not mean fuel would cost 1200 naira. That's an exaggeration.

Also, keeping subsidy means continued deficit budgets and more debt and no refineries. And more issues for our economy. You want that?

If there is no subsidy petrol would be about N380-N420 at current crude prices. I know this cos in most countries I go to, petrol is just slightly cheaper than diesel.
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by tonididdy(m): 1:54pm On Mar 03, 2022
No oh, na Putin be the winch wey every tom dick and Harry want catch
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by Fastlinkpro: 1:55pm On Mar 03, 2022
That was a democratic regime what we have now is a military regime. All eyes have seen. I am happy to be alive to witness this.
Re: When Jonathan Was Called 419 Over ₦140 Fuel Price (Throwback Photos) by COMPAQ(m): 1:55pm On Mar 03, 2022
COMPAQ:


GEJ actually had the best crude prices of any President in Nigeria's history

Jonathan was President from 2010-2015 and from the chart crude averaged about $90 during his tenor, peaking at $114

Average under Buhari has been about $55.

Instrumental that Obasanjo repaid debts with crude at an average of $55. Although production in that time was much higher than now, cos bunkering was at a minimum and militancy did not exist.

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