GeneralDae:
Well everyone is free to travel and of course abroad is good but the thing is: You would always be seen there as a foreigner. The unspoken thought of many citizens in this white countries is: Why can't these blacks stay in their country and make it work?

In some countries they just tolerate the blacks or pretend to be nice. No matter how you hate or denigrate your country, you would never be seen as an American or European. Even African Americans are still struggling to be recognized in America despite their 400 years root.

I am not against travelling, infact I did my masters in Germany and that's one of the best decision I made ever. But this hatred for one's own country is what baffles me.

And the ignorance is on them. And you. Migration is part of the human story. What are these national boundary lines anyway? You have Irish and German descendants in the US whose ancestors migrated here for a better life multiple generations ago. Nigerian descendants down the line would be thankful their great great grandparents came over to the west. And I’ll take the racism in the west over the petty tribalism in Africa every day of the week. Anyhow, I don’t let anyones narrow minded view of human nature affect me. Love my country my big foot. The world is mine

tensazangetsu20:


What is so funny is that the so-called comfortable ones are just one instance away from Nigeria happening to them and them being on the streets. Nigeria has zero social contract so once anything happens, you are back to the trenches.

You are an IT guy, what is your plan? Do you intend just working for the white man and having the good life for you and your family until you are 70? Or would you eventually build a software that solves a need in Nigeria even if you control things from abroad or travel around?
Whatever you do you would not be wrong because it's your choice.

Me, I am no IT guy but I'm already in touch with a friend who is into IT and we may solve a need in Delta state (I would take care of marketing and some other stuff), even if we decide not to be based permanently in the country. That's my point.

GeneralDae:

You are an IT guy, what is your plan? Do you intend just working for the white man and having the good life for you and your family until you are 70? Or would you eventually build a software that solves a need in Nigeria even if you control things from abroad or travel around?
Whatever you do you would not be wrong because it's your choice.

Me, I am no IT guy but I'm already in touch with a friend who is into IT and we may solve a need in Delta state (I would take care of marketing and some other stuff), even if we decide not to be based permanently in the country. That's my point.

Who gives a Bleep about this shithole . The same white people taught me everything I know so long them can reap the fruits of the knowledge

tensazangetsu20:


Who gives a Bleep about this shithole . The same white people taught me everything I know so long them can reap the fruits of the knowledge

But the country gave many cheap education at Bachelor's level comparatively. This is why we have many with a Masters degree in the U.S and U.K today.

GeneralDae:

But the country gave many cheap education at Bachelor's level comparatively. This is why we have many with a Masters degree in the U.S and U.K today.

My degree wasn't from a Nigerian university fortunately so that doesn't apply to me.

helovesnyash:


And the ignorance is on them. And you. Migration is part of the human story. What are these national boundary lines anyway? You have Irish and German descendants in the US who migrated here for a better life multiple generations ago. Nigerian descendants down the line would be thankful their great great grandparents came over to the west. And I’ll take the racism in the west over the petty tribalism in Africa every day of the week. Anyhow, I don’t let anyones narrow minded view of human nature affect me. Love my country my big foot. The world is mine

Unfortunately the oyinbos who enslaved our ancestors, whom we are running to now, do not see it that way. They quarrel, but they come together when it benefits their country or when it benefits whites over black. It's thesame way they came together in Berlin in the 19th century to divide Africa among themselves. Frances, Britain, Portugal, etc know when to come together. Everything they did those days to the detriment of your ancestors was to the benefit of their race, countries, descendants, etc and they knew it.

tensazangetsu20:


My degree wasn't from a Nigerian university fortunately so that doesn't apply to me.

I'm not talking about just you.

Anyone abroad discouraging people from coming should be ignored. And yes many Nigerians in the past did cleaning, mortuary and other menial jobs. Some still do. In those days alot of them travelled with visiting visa and overstayed. They wont qualify for office jobs till they get stay by marrying someone. But today due to labour shortage and openess of companies some even hire people direct from Nigeria, hire people with right papers or international students who just graduated. No think say you will go to uk or usa on visiting Visa and microsoft or google go hire you

Suspects:
reported. noise!

stop being frustrated. I will japa soon.i have more than enof in my account.just researching for a good country.fustrated peeps are always hating.post ur account make I send you small thing to calm your fustration

tensazangetsu20:


Chinese are homogenous. Nigerians arent. What do Yorubas, hausas. Fulanis and Igbos have in common? Nigeria can never work.

True once there is a clash of different cultures or religions a nation falls due to the gravity of love for tribe.

Aaaaarghmed:
stop being frustrated. I will japa soon.i have more than enof in my account.just researching for a good country.fustrated peeps are always hating.post ur account make I send you small thing to calm your fustration

wonder! Noise!

tensazangetsu20:
The previous thread as usual probably from a Nigerian abroad who loves to lie was talking about high gas prices and how expensive living abroad really is. This is a new statistic that was just released that shows that even with high gas prices, the average American or Canadian spends just one percent of their income filling their gas tanks while a Nigerian spends 20 percent of his monthly income doing so.

If you want to Japa, never be discouraged. Nigerians abroad are the most satanic individuals. That's how we were lied to as kids that all the guys abroad were mortuary attendants and cleaners and you can never get an office job. With social media, we have seen a lot of Nigerians working office jobs heck I in Nigeria work an office job for a foreign company likewise thousands of others. Never be deceived by these wicked demons.

Are you serious about your claims? That some anonymous person is the one discouraging you from traveling. You don't know anything about me but will accept a post if I give you reasons not to travel. I think you're spending more time on nairaland than on your travel plans.

I'll tell you this most people on this platform cannot travel out of Nigeria legally or illegally to western countries. They only obsess about western countries daily and wish their dreams come true. Unfortunately, they'll spend most of their productive years on their wishful thinking instead of making their lives productive in Nigeria and forging ahead.

If it was easy for you to jet out you would have done so before now, but you realize it's no easy task. While I salute your determination and focus in migration, you'll eventually realize that your view of the western world is skewed. I have received more ambitious individuals than yourself and after 3 years they start complaining about their new country.

Learn from what others post, filter out what you don't want. Don't be discourage by such posts. Not everything will always make sense to you now but some will later. Some are exaggerations, some are true and some are false likewise posts about Nigeria.
Sometime ago you were against DSA but today you know the importance, tomorrow you'll learn something even more important.

I've assisted a few to move abroad from Nigeria and I've also encourage a few to move back to Nigeria. You know the reason. The essence of life is far above where you live. Discover the meaning of life, you'll be happy.

In all that you do, remain focus, pray for success and divine favor.

God ordinarily suppose to punish everybody wey dey born for Nigeria despite all happening in the useless country.
Very useless shitty country with majorly useless people and their useless existence.

tensazangetsu20:


What is so funny is that the so-called comfortable ones are just one instance away from Nigeria happening to them and them being on the streets. Nigeria has zero social contract so once anything happens, you are back to the trenches.

Good evening sir, from what you've seen , how much should a remote junior frontend dev be expected to earn on average (tried googling but i want some realistic answers)

swagenity:



Good evening sir, from what you've seen , how much should a remote junior frontend dev be expected to earn on average (tried googling but i want some realistic answers)

If it's an American company, you can't get lower than 2000 USD. I have even seen 5000 to 7000 for juniors. Outside America, 500 to 1500 USD is common.

tensazangetsu20:

If it's an American company, you can't get lower than 2000 USD. I have even seen 5000 to 7000 for juniors. Outside America, 500 to 1500 USD is common.

Thanks so much for your timely response, is the UK and some European countries among those who pay 1500? And like you've been saying, knowing DSA increases chances of higher pay, I'm currently grinding it, if i grind till like July, i should be looking in the range of at least 3k right?

swagenity:

Thanks so much for your timely response, is the UK and some European countries among those who pay 1500? And like you've been saying, knowing DSA increases chances of higher pay, I'm currently grinding it, if i grind till like July, i should be looking in the range of at least 3k right?

If you grind DSA you will get good salaries in Europe but without it you are limited to companies that cant pay much so less than 2k USD

tensazangetsu20:


If you grind DSA you will get good salaries in Europe but without it you are limited to companies that cant pay much so less than 2k USD

Thanks sir, you've helped clarified somethings,
Leetcode is my home now . Don't know if you remember but i reached out to you a while back, i said I'll reach out again after my internship, my internship starts in April,i definitely reach out again when I'm through

tensazangetsu20:


If you grind DSA you will get good salaries in Europe but without it you are limited to companies that cant pay much so less than 2k USD

Incase you don't have the funds enough for leetcode.
Is hackerank ok for dsa grinding?

Biggerbros234:

Incase you don't have the funds enough for leetcode.
Is hackerank ok for dsa grinding?

You can also use leetcode for free but some solutions are locked and you cant filter questions by companies. Hackerrank questions are easier than the ones on leetcode sha.

GeneralDae:
Well everyone is free to travel and of course abroad is good but the thing is: You would always be seen there as a foreigner. The unspoken thought of many citizens in this white countries is: Why can't these blacks stay in their country and make it work?

In some countries they just tolerate the blacks or pretend to be nice. No matter how you hate or denigrate your country, you would never be seen as an American or European. Even African Americans are still struggling to be recognized in America despite their 400 years root.

I am not against travelling, infact I did my masters in Germany and that's one of the best decision I made ever. But this hatred for one's own country is what baffles me.

Shut up

GeneralDae:

I added to the comment you quoted. Travelling is good, I recommend it. But the responsibility is on us to make our Nation work. Constant complaints about our Nation to foreigners would only make them laugh at us, it does nothing. The hatred for the nation takes us nowhere. No foreigner would fix it for us.

The Chinese once had everyone fleeing. The difference is that they copied everything they saw in the West and replicated in their country the Chinese way. They didn't sit there just complaining or laying out all their problems in Public to foreigners, the way many of our Youths do on Social media these days.

Ur sick.

tensazangetsu20:


What is so funny is that the so-called comfortable ones are just one instance away from Nigeria happening to them and them being on the streets. Nigeria has zero social contract so once anything happens, you are back to the trenches.

True. This is why we should all insist that we break up Nigeria to save lives. I don't like the idea of living in other people's country forever because the truth of the matter is, they have the right to ask you to leave at anytime. Even if they have managed to give you their citizenship, they can come up with a new immigration and nationality bill or policy that will say, if you don't have ancestral ties to this land, in other words, if you are not an indigenous son or daughter of the soil, you have to leave. Then what do you do then? You will have to leave.

And don't underestimate racism and racial hate. White Nationalists are not smiling. Their numbers are increasing daily all around Europe and in other white nations and many of them don't want Black people in their spaces or faces. They want a racially homogeneous all white nation and I guess that is their right.

Your physical presence can trigger them and they won't mind killing you too because they see you as a lesser human being anyway. They won't care that you are an IT professional and that you have come to make money. In their minds, they are thinking, why can't your Black behind make money back in Africa? Why are you coming to their homelands?

Lastly, never you underestimate other racial groups. Just because the white man gave you a job does not mean they or the society the white man comes from likes you. Don't get it twisted. But some of you white-worshiping Nigerian coons will have to end up learning things the hard way.

dasparrow:


True. This is why we should all insist that we break up Nigeria to save lives. I don't like the idea of living in other people's country forever because the truth of the matter is, they have the right to ask you to leave at anytime. Even if they have managed to give you their citizenship, they can come up with a new immigration and nationality bill or policy that will say, if you don't have ancestral ties to this land, in other words, if you are not an indigenous son or daughter of the soil, you have to leave. Then what do you do then? You will have to leave.

And don't underestimate racism and racial hate. White Nationalists are not smiling. Their numbers are increasing daily all around Europe and in other white nations and many of them don't want Black people in their spaces or faces. They want a racially homogeneous all white nation and I guess that is their right.

Your physical presence can trigger them and they won't mind killing you too because they see you as a lesser human being anyway. They won't care that you are an IT professional and that you have come to make money. In their minds, they are thinking, why can't your Black behind make money back in Africa? Why are you coming to their homelands?

Lastly, never you underestimate other racial groups. Just because the white man gave you a job does not mean they or the society the white man comes from likes you. Don't get it twisted. But some of you white-worshiping Nigerian coons will have to end up learning things the hard way.

The white man can do no wrong in my eyes . First job after school whites. New skills, whites. First tech job. Who gave me a chance when I knew absolutely nothing a white man. Oh I have gained more from the whites than I have gained from my own family

dasparrow:


True. This is why we should all insist that we break up Nigeria to save lives. I don't like the idea of living in other people's country forever because the truth of the matter is, they have the right to ask you to leave at anytime. Even if they have managed to give you their citizenship, they can come up with a new immigration and nationality bill or policy that will say, if you don't have ancestral ties to this land, in other words, if you are not an indigenous son or daughter of the soil, you have to leave. Then what do you do then? You will have to leave.

And don't underestimate racism and racial hate. White Nationalists are not smiling. Their numbers are increasing daily all around Europe and in other white nations and many of them don't want Black people in their spaces or faces. They want a racially homogeneous all white nation and I guess that is their right.

Your physical presence can trigger them and they won't mind killing you too because they see you as a lesser human being anyway. They won't care that you are an IT professional and that you have come to make money. In their minds, they are thinking, why can't your Black behind make money back in Africa? Why are you coming to their homelands?

Lastly, never you underestimate other racial groups. Just because the white man gave you a job does not mean they or the society the white man comes from likes you. Don't get it twisted. But some of you white-worshiping Nigerian coons will have to end up learning things the hard way.

The problem with our people is that they travel to many of these countries and are not current on the political climates in some of these countries.
Some Nigerians here in the name of Japa, would likely go to a country like South Africa, whereas many South African citizens see the Nigerians coming into their country as majorly criminals. Yet our people don't care, they'll still flock there. You go to the U.S, you have people there with sentiments like: Why couldn't you build your country back home and why did you flee? You are benefiting from the foundation our forefathers laid. There are many Americans today (white and black) who may likely vote for a Republican in 2024 because they are tired of immigrants coming into their country especially black immigrants. Because black immigrants as a group are not respected no matter how great they are individually simply because of the state of their countries.
So in summary, I encourage people to travel in order to build skills, but in all these, know that you are in a foreign land. The whites are nice of course and racism is way lower than what it was 50 years ago, but considering the state of our nation, are we respected?

dasparrow:


True. This is why we should all insist that we break up Nigeria to save lives. I don't like the idea of living in other people's country forever because the truth of the matter is, they have the right to ask you to leave at anytime. Even if they have managed to give you their citizenship, they can come up with a new immigration and nationality bill or policy that will say, if you don't have ancestral ties to this land, in other words, if you are not an indigenous son or daughter of the soil, you have to leave. Then what do you do then? You will have to leave.

And don't underestimate racism and racial hate. White Nationalists are not smiling. Their numbers are increasing daily all around Europe and in other white nations and many of them don't want Black people in their spaces or faces. They want a racially homogeneous all white nation and I guess that is their right.

Your physical presence can trigger them and they won't mind killing you too because they see you as a lesser human being anyway. They won't care that you are an IT professional and that you have come to make money. In their minds, they are thinking, why can't your Black behind make money back in Africa? Why are you coming to their homelands?

Lastly, never you underestimate other racial groups. Just because the white man gave you a job does not mean they or the society the white man comes from likes you. Don't get it twisted. But some of you white-worshiping Nigerian coons will have to end up learning things the hard way.

Two things I easily spotted out here:

A. Your post is a coping mechanism.

B. You're among the <20% of the total population that has things going well for him/her because the pastures are greener and the places both cozy and rosy. At least, you can conveniently pay your bills with little to no stress.

I'm not arguing the case against racism, it is true. However, it's way different as the media wants us to view it. The major factor which I think is more detrimental to blacks which is tantamount to racism is 'black in black crimes'. Many blacks in diaspora are doing well and living peacefully with their foreign neighbors; same way many blacks out of dumbness and myopic inclinations are causing serious damages both home and abroad. Hardly any serious crime in the world, that a black man won't be involved regardless of the location it happened. It might not be pure black/African, but at least, there must be a trace of black which is not far-fetched. Black is Blacks problem because of their black minds. Various restrictions and sanctions has been placed on Africans/Nigerians because of black crimes. An ordinary innocent Nigerian can't work smoothly or get international jobs because their foreign counterparts are scared. Only with efficiency and great competency with enough credibility do few blacks scale pass the hurdles.

Can anything good come out of Nigeria? No! Except by a divine intervention. Or, an asteroid helps filter out all the useless leaders from the head to the tail. The high level of deliberation and consciousness (political) leaders of the nation perfect their rapaciousness and various crimes in broad daylight is a telling signal that the country is heading to the dusts.

There's no need trying to claim father's land blah blah blah. Wherever you find peace and have rest of mind is truly your father's land. And if living in diaspora can fulfill that hope, it is a great joy and a welcome development. Better to live in a foreigner's land and achieve your dream than in a third world nation you claim citizenship by birth but have nothing to boast of.

More grease to your elbow as you search for more hands to join you repair this damaged nation. As for me and the op, "we don wash our hands comot from Nigeria matter...na make we see legit opportunity to take Japa na we dey look for so".

Thanks.

tensazangetsu20:


Chinese are homogenous. Nigerians arent. What do Yorubas, hausas. Fulanis and Igbos have in common? Nigeria can never work.

Chinese are NOT homogenous , yes the Han Chinese form an overwhelming majority but there's 14m Uighurs,there's Tibetans,some Korean Chinese,Yao people's etc...infact China has 55 recognized ethnic groups.

Bifwoli:
Chinese are NOT homogenous , yes the Han Chinese form an overwhelming majority but there's 14m Uighurs,there's Tibetans,some Korean Chinese,Yao people's etc...infact China has 55 recognized ethnic groups.

Yes, this is true, however, the onus in development is when the dominant ethnic group is pragmatic, enterprising and meritocratic. If Fulani elites were like the Han Chinese, Nigerians would have been better off. This is because the dominant group would want to ensure things go their way, thus, a functional society.

CaveAdullam:


Two things I easily spotted out here:

A. Your post is a coping mechanism.

B. You're among the <20% of the total population that has things going well for him/her because the pastures are greener and the places both cozy and rosy. At least, you can conveniently pay your bills with little to no stress.


Thanks.

The person you quoted has a morbid hatred for Nigerians. She relocated to Abuja from either the US or Europe and after witnessing what it means to live in a brutish environment, she fled to a no-name country in Central America. She should not be taken seriously o emigration issues as she is an online witch whose main aim is to dissuade young and ambitious Nigerians from fleeing doom.

tensazangetsu20:


The white man can do no wrong in my eyes . First job after school whites. New skills, whites. First tech job. Who gave me a chance when I knew absolutely nothing a white man. Oh I have gained more from the whites than I have gained from my own family

leave that guy. Despite them be racist,they have impacted and change people lives for the better compare to your own black race.
Look at south Africa for example, the black south Africans always flex their muscles with the black foreigner whom are even in the same racial group. When they see the white,they give them chance. The funny thing is that the white are the ones even manipulating and using them indirectly but they are blind to it. They always go for other black nationality.

tensazangetsu20:

Chinese are homogenous. Nigerians arent. What do Yorubas, hausas. Fulanis and Igbos have in common? Nigeria can never work.

.

tensazangetsu20:

And how is Ecowas functioning? Isn't it a failed organization?

I wonder.

tensazangetsu20:

Who gives a Bleep about this shithole . The same white people taught me everything I know so long them can reap the fruits of the knowledge

No cap