NNTR:
You are on point.

Yeah. No one can, no one, not even Abraham, not even Jephthah, has "successfully" offered a human being as a burning sacrifice to God who absolutely rejected all associations with such things

God explicitly gave Abraham a command to sacrifice Isaac to Him, but God instead gave to Jephthah, and all of Israel, a commandment instructing them never to offer to Him any human sacrifice. It is meaningless to compare the two cases here.

So the question again is How can any one in Israel "successfully" offer a human being as a burning sacrifice to God who absolutely forbade them from doing any such in His name?

Kobojunkie:
God explicitly gave Abraham a command to sacrifice Isaac to Him,

Yes of course, God explicitly gave Abraham a command to sacrifice Isaac to Him

Kobojunkie:
but God instead gave to Jephthah, and all of Israel, a commandment instructing them never to offer to Him any human sacrifice.

Yes of course, God instead gave to Jephthah, and all of Israel, a commandment instructing them never to offer to Him any human sacrifice

Kobojunkie:
It is meaningless to compare the two cases here.

Of course, no one is comparing the two cases here

Kobojunkie:
So the question again is How can any one in Israel "successfully" offer a human being as a burning sacrifice to God who absolutely forbade them from doing any such in His name?

So again, I reinstate that, yeah, no one can, no one has, not even Abraham, not even Jephthah, not even any of the children of Israel turning their backs on God have carried out human sacrificing done for God nor carry out human being burning offerings to God

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

MaxInDHouse:
Following!

MaxInDHouse :

I'm simply an observer in the thread!

MaxInDHouse :

i'm just an observer on this!

MaxInDHouse :
Following!

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:

job 15:12 Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at


^^ troll false jw mad max, u simply an observer yet you often jump in to disrupt, u people cannot ever stop blatantly lying, can you:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


unstable mad max u is clearly at these forums to disrupt christians and christian threads
and u this insaneo is a supposed jehovah's wittness, yep, that's what u people r like




and u so confused too, of course vv

MaxInDHouse:

I am waiting patiently for Jesus to come and destroy all those ruining the earth but i must continue preaching zealously and industriously teaching people in all my neighbourhood for them to be warned that this is the time for us all to embrace PEACE before the great day of God's anger! Zephaniah 2:2-3

So you can continue waiting for your own Messiah mine has come and established pure worship!

1 cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

OLAADEGBU:
Did Jephthah actually sacrifice his daughter to the Lord? If God hates human/child sacrifice, why would He then allow Jephthah to sacrifice his only daughter?

I believe she was "offered" same way Hannah offered Samuel, not necessarily burning her up on alter and dispersing her flesh.....

johnw47:

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:
job 15:12 Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at
^^ troll false jw mad max, u simply an observer yet you often jump in to disrupt, u people cannot ever stop blatantly lying, can you:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
unstable mad max u is clearly at these forums to disrupt christians and christian threads
and u this insaneo is a supposed jehovah's wittness, yep, that's what u people r like
and u so confused too, of course vv
1 cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Wèrè!
Contribute to the topic, i'm not the topic of discussion, i know your madness won't have anything worthwhile to say regarding the topic of discussion but if everyone wants to talk about MaxInDHouse you will write an epistle.
So mad man, talk wetin you know for the matter no be me then dey talk for here!

maticar:

I believe she was "offered" same way Hannah offered Samuel, not necessarily burning her up on alter and dispersing her flesh.....

The woman was offered as a sacrifice in much the same way animals were offered up for sacrifice.... the story is at least that clear. Make una no dey rewrite scripture anyhow abeg!

MaxInDHouse:


Wèrè!
Contribute to the topic, i'm not the topic of discussion, i know your madness won't have anything worthwhile to say regarding the topic of discussion but if everyone wants to talk about MaxInDHouse you will write an epistle.
So mad man, talk wetin you know for the matter no be me then dey talk for here!

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:



false jw mad max

there you go again, evading what is said

i showed u r a disrupter to christians
i showed u r confused:

1 cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

but keep running away from the truths people say to you, and keep change the subject, oh fearful false jw:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

MaxInDHouse:


They never got anything wrong like Kumuyi do!

Pastor Kumuyi can only take a horse to the brook but he cannot force it to drink. Can the Watchtower give you eternal life?

NNTR:


Romans 12:1
'I appeal to you therefore, brothers and sisters, by the mercies of God,
to present your bodies as a living sacrifice,
holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.'

Pardon the complement and liberty
Yes, indeed Jephthah sacrificed his daughter by giving her up to God's service. It's just like we present ourselves as living sacrifice to God but more separate.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Way to go, brother!

Kobojunkie:
You would need to ask the one who authored the letter to the Hebrews about that.

Jephthah was a judge in Israel at the time of the incident so he was rightly included among other judges over the land in the book of Judges.

An hero of faith would not have committed the abominable sin of performing human sacrifice. If you get that you get understanding.

MaxInDHouse:
Keep lying to yourself!
After saying:

Now because i refused to TEACH you guys you are saying:


I will not TEACH you people.
I can see all of you dancing round without using the scriptures to back up your answers, but if i solve the riddle for you people using the full strength of the scriptures you won't say "Thank you"
So keep answering yourselves i'm just an observer on this!

I eventually asked you to give us what your organisation brainwashed you with since you could not or would not think for yourself.

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid I don't follow your logic in this!

God Himself specially vowed the Levites for service as well, but this He in no way cpmpared to the offering of sacrifices and burnt offerings which He also stipulated.

Choosing to become a Eunuch for the sake of the Kingdom of God is a choice one makes - no one is forced - in order to be better able to focus on God or the things of God. If a one who once chose to live a life as a Eunuch later decided to no longer live as such, there are no penalties against that, again since Jesus Christ stated that this was a choice permitted by God but ultimately to be made by the individual.

The bottom-line is that Jephthah did not murder his daughter as a burnt sacrifice. No long story.

LordReed:


Your bible.

Chapter and verse?

LordReed:


Was she the first person to have remained a virgin to death?

Read your Bible for answers.

Kobojunkie:
It is flawed reasoning to compare Abraham's attempt at a human sacrifice to Jephthah's sacrificing of his daughter.

God Himself commanded Abraham, who was not an Israelite by the way, to sacrifice Isaac to Him, however, God declared an abomination, the sacrificing of individuals, this in His Covenant with Israel, so Jephthah's sacrifice was against God's commandments to His people.

As for intervention by God, apart from the case of Isaac, I don't believe there are records of God intervening any of the many other times the children of Israel turned their backs on him to carry out human sacrificing.

God did not have to intervene in the case of Jephthah because it did not happen.

Kobojunkie:
If deity A declared, " I do not want human sacrifices" but man A claimed he offered a human sacrifice to deity A, was the sacrifice in question really to deity A who explicitly stated He would want none of that or was it instead to man A's delusion aka an idol of his imagining?

What's your proof that Jephthah committed murder?

maticar:


I believe she was "offered" same way Hannah offered Samuel, not necessarily burning her up on alter and dispersing her flesh.....

That is, to be dedicated to the service of the Lord.

Kobojunkie:


The woman was offered as a sacrifice in much the same way animals were offered up for sacrifice.... the story is at least that clear. Make una no dey rewrite scripture anyhow abeg!

Only atheists or novices would say this.

OLAADEGBU:

Pastor Kumuyi can only take a horse to the brook but he cannot force it to drink. Can the Watchtower give you eternal life?

Jesus told the group to become the first Governing Body of the Christian congregation:

I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of the heavens, and whatever you may bind on earth will already be bound in the heavens, and whatever you may loosen on earth will already be loosened in the heavens.” Matthew 16:19

If you miss Jesus' spiritual brothers you have missed God's kingdom! Matthew 25:41-46

OLAADEGBU:

I eventually asked you to give us what your organisation brainwashed you with since you could not or would not think for yourself.

I will not TEACH you unless you beg for it!

MaxInDHouse:


I will not TEACH you unless you beg for it!

Please don't pollute us with your heretical teaching if you cannot exegeses from the holy scriptures.

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus told the group to become the first Governing Body of the Christian congregation:

I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of the heavens, and whatever you may bind on earth will already be bound in the heavens, and whatever you may loosen on earth will already be loosened in the heavens.” Matthew 16:19

If you miss Jesus' spiritual brothers you have missed God's kingdom! Matthew 25:41-46

Are you talking about those Freemason guys?

MaxInDHouse:

I am waiting patiently for Jesus to come and destroy all those ruining the earth but i must continue preaching zealously and industriously teaching people in all my neighbourhood for them to be warned that this is the time for us all to embrace PEACE before the great day of God's anger! Zephaniah 2:2-3

So you can continue waiting for your own Messiah mine has come and established pure worship!

^^ false jw mad max, you not even of the same line of thought with yourself, so crazy and dum

James 1:8
A double minded man is unstable(mad) in all his ways.

1 cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

job 15:12 Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at

OLAADEGBU:
An hero of faith would not have committed the abominable sin of performing human sacrifice. If you get that you get understanding.

Hero of what faith? Was Samson also a hero of your faith while he was about with Delilah? Or was Samsons sin not equally abominable - against God??

Your understanding seems wrapped around the acts of men and not God's Law. You erroneously judge God and the things of God by first considering the deeds of men instead of putting God's Law and Word first. God asks men to do one thing and one thing alone which is to obey His commandments, not make gods(heroes of faith) of men.

Jephthah failed when he sacrificed his daughter against God's commandment and it is recorded as such.

OLAADEGBU:
The bottom-line is that Jephthah did not murder his daughter as a burnt sacrifice. No long story.

Jephthah did kill his own daughter according to his own will, not God's and yes, it is written as such in scripture.

However, since many of you place the deeds of men above God's commandments, I can see why denial is the only way for you to think to process this.

OLAADEGBU:
God did not have to intervene in the case of Jephthah because it did not happen.

You really think God a fool now, don't you?

Are we also to conclude that since God didn't intervene the many other times it is recorded that the Israelites offered their sons and daughters as humans sacrifices means such things never took place? In fact since God Himself is written to have pronounced judgement against the people on many such occasions, God was instead guilty of telling celestial fibs against the Israelites?

OLAADEGBU:
What's your proof that Jephthah committed murder?

Proof? You mean you choose not to believe the writer of the book of judges in this?

OLAADEGBU:
Only atheists or novices would say this.

Oh, yeah, the Ad Populums... I was wondering when you would show this side of you.

OLAADEGBU:


Chapter and verse?

Yes where is the chapter and verse where the god intervened?

OLAADEGBU:


Read your Bible for answers.

LoLz.

OLAADEGBU:

Please don't pollute us with your heretical teaching if you cannot exegeses from the holy scriptures.

Good!
That's why i'm just FOLLOWING!

Kobojunkie:
The woman was offered as a sacrifice in much the same way animals were offered up for sacrifice.... the story is at least that clear.

Why would the woman be offered as a sacrifice in much the same way animals were offered up for sacrifice (i.e. burned at the stake as a burning offering)

Kobojunkie:
Make una no dey rewrite scripture anyhow abeg!

Where in the bible did you find that Jephthah made any vow about intent to sacrifice a human being as a burning offering to God?

Make una no dey carelessly fail to interpret scripture correctly abeg!

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}