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Kobojunkie:
God hates all sin ,yet God forgives all forgivable sin including the sin of divorce.

She and the husband should just agree to be FWB, it won't be a sin then.

But if she get married as a divorcee, she is sinning continuously, until the husband dies


Because, I don't want to sin, is because she hasn't seen the opportunity to sin, she is starved already, and at this point, she is vulnerable in the sense that she might even allow anyhow guy to peruse her, on the long run, she becomes a sugar mummy

Kobojunkie:
All you have said here has no bearing to any of what I have made clear.

Again, according to Matthew 5 vs 27 -28, Jesus Christ, God's Law and Gospel in the Kingdom of God, made it clear that sexual lust, not urges, is what is sin against God..

If you want to argue against what Jesus Christ said there, I cannot help you.

So are you concluding that the OP is engaging in lust? That's the bone of contention.

Kobojunkie:
Sexual lust - lust in one's heart after another one is not married to - is what Jesus Christ deemed to be adultery - Matthew 5 vs 27 - 28

But the OP never mentioned sexual lust.

Rather, she mentioned sexual urge, which is not the same as sexual lust.

Sexual urge is an itch to have sex. Sexual lust means sexually desiring somebody.

You want sex, but have not committed fornication/adultery in your heart. We are after all humans with weaknesses.

But sexual lust is a sin, if the person you desire is not your spouse.

HelipsTech:
She and the husband should just agree to be FWB, it won't be a sin then.
But if she get married as a divorcee, she is sinning continuously, until the husband dies
Because, I don't want to sin, is because she hasn't seen the opportunity to sin, she is starved already, and at this point, she is vulnerable in the sense that she might even allow anyhow guy to peruse her, on the long run, she becomes a sugar mummy

There is no such thing as continuous sin... stop lying in God's Name.

Stop projecting your personal delusions on others abeg!

Lari03r:
So are you concluding that the OP is engaging in lust? That's the bone of contention.

LOL... I suggest you go back to reread the text of mine where you pretend this all started and find out for yourself the answer to your question here.

Kobojunkie:
There is no such thing as continuous sin... stop lying in God's Name.

Stop projecting your personal delusions on others abeg!

Bible said if a woman or man must divorce, they should remain unmarried, anyone who marries them commits adultery likewise her too.

So that is a continuous sin, because you are .married to a divorcee until you separate or the death of any partner, he or she is commiting adultery

BluntTheApostle:
1. But the OP never mentioned sexual lust.Rather, she mentioned sexual urge, which is not the same as sexual lust.

2. Sexual urge is an itch to have sex. Sexual lust means sexually desiring somebody. You want sex, but have not committed fornication/adultery in your heart. We are after all humans with weaknesses.

But sexual lust is a sin, if the person you desire is not your spouse.

1. OP mentioned she chose abstinence in order to please God, and I took the opportunity to explain to her that Sexual lust, not sex, is what God instead deemed sin. And so her choice of abstinence means nothing to God if she instead indulged in sexual lust.

2. And what I've instead focused on was making it clear that contrary to what is popular, sexual lust in one's heart- not fornication , or homosexuality, or masturbation etc., - is what is condemned as sin by Jesus Christ and this in Matthew 5 vs 27 - 28.

What this means also is it does not matter whether one is a virgin as a believer. The moment one commits this sin of sexual lust one is guilty of adultery, regardless of whether one lives a life of abstinence or not.

Acidosis:
You've never thought of making new friends around here?

Not really or maybe still not yet.

Emmanuel30a:
Not just disobedience to GOD... All unrighteousness is sin. Sin is knowing what is good and not doing it. I am not here to debate on what is sin please...

Sin is as defined by God's Law, and in God's New Covenant, Jesus Christ, there are about 100 laws that define for us what sin is. So anyone who breaks any of the almost 100 laws of the New Covenant is said to sin against God. Anything outside of the about 100 laws is not considered sin against God.

HelipsTech:
1. Bible said if a woman or man must divorce, they should remain unmarried, anyone who marries them commits adultery likewise her too.

2. So that is a continuous sin, because you are .married to a divorcee until you separate or the death of any partner, he or she is commiting adultery

1. Jesus Christ told you that God forgives all sins(except for the one) so are you trying to pick and choose here as far as the teachings of Jesus Christ?

2. There is no such thing as continuous sin as that suggests God remembers our sin, and it is nowhere suggested by Jesus Christ that death of a partner is only way to end a sin.

Please be careful as you are here adding that own ideas to that which is stated by God's very own Law , Jesus Christ.

Kobojunkie:
1. I did exactly that.

2. According to you, Jesus Christ did not come to change or abolish the Old Law, so how could He then suggests commandments to be added to the same Old Law which He did not come to change ?

Hope you see the contradiction in your claim there. Jesus Christ came to give men a New Law and Covenant, separate and different from God's Old Covenant Law of Moses which was instead meant only for those who were born of the blood of Jacob and live in the land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20

Not only is God's New Covenant, Jesus Christ, a separate Covenant from the Old Covenant, it is a standard that is so much higher than the Old Covenant and only applicable to the who inhabit the Kingdom of God aka those who are born again - John 3 vs 5 - 8.

3. The letter written to the Hebrews does not quote Jesus Christ or His Law directly. God's New Covenant Law is written instead in the Gospels- Matthew, Mark, Luke and John - and was ratified on the cross where Jesus Christ's blood was shed and He declared, "It is finished".

Please read 2Tim. 3:16,17
[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: [17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

You picked a verse in Math 5 and misinterpret it to suit your lustful desires. Have you read up the whole Math chapter 5?

It's unfortunate how people like you euphemise immorality to suit your lustful desires. Please stop seeking out teachers, messages and doctrines that condone your lifestyle (2Tim 4:3). Even traditionalist knows what sexual sin means. I have shown you verses of the scriptures that condemned sexual sins. Show us verses that uphold them.

SyndyB:
1. You picked a verse in Math 5 and misinterpret it to suit your lustful desires. Have you read up the whole Math chapter 5?

2.It's unfortunate how people like you euphemise immorality to suit your lustful desires. Please stop seeking out teachers, messages and doctrines that condone your lifestyle (2Tim 4:3). Even traditionalist knows what sexual sin means. I have shown you verses of the scriptures that condemned sexual sins. Show us verses that uphold them.

Quit rambling and make your point, assuming you have one..

1. What part of what is written in Matthew 5 vs 27 - 28 has been misquoted by me? Make your claims clearly known.

2. Again. Stop with the meaningless ramblings and proceed to make your case valid or stop with the attention whoring!

Kobojunkie:
Quit rambling and make your point, assuming you have one..

1. What part of what is written in Matthew 5 vs 27 - 28 has been misquoted by me? Make your claims clearly known.

2. Again. Stop with the meaningless ramblings and proceed to make your case valid or stop with the attention whoring!

And which part of Math 5:27-28 said fornication is not a sin?

SyndyB:
And which part of Math 5:27-28 said fornication is not a sin?

This requires at least basics language comprehension skill alone.

You are told in Matthew 5 vs 27- 28, that without even touching anyone, you are already guilty of sin from the moment you consider engaging in sex with another person in your heart. Do you really think then that it matters whether you engage in the physical act or not afterwards?

Kobojunkie:
1. Admonition? None of that I simply explained that her acts, though worthy of honor according to standard of men, holds no water where God's standard and Law, Jesus Christ, is concerned.

2. There is no prayer and fasting stipulated by God as far living a life in obedience of His teachings and commandments. Try to learn to separate the doctrines and traditions of your Pastors and their churches from the Truth of God.

OK she is to overcome lust by her will power not the grace of God right?

SugarGirl44:
African man..na them...lolz.
We know your type, you preach against stuff in public but engage in worse crimes secretly.
I don't know how you guys imagine God to be.
I know my own God isn't wicked neither is he an author of confusion, would created sex as a natural occurrence, (married or not you have the urge), then go ahead to throw you in hell for engaging in the same act, knowing fully well that everyone can't be married at every single time for different genuine reasons.

I understand you are worshipping a god of your own fancy not the God of the bible who reduced Sodom to ashes for sexual sins.

Kobojunkie:
1. You are no longer married to him so it would be sin.
2. What is sin is the lust in your heart that usually comes before or during the acts themselves.

3. There is nothing natural about those desires or you would be born lusting from your very birth. You develop these desires over time and as such can also chose to control them rather than allow them control you.

I think we all know what is meant by sexual lust and that is what Jesus Christ said is sin.

Thought divorce is a sin

godliman:
OK she is to overcome lust by her will power not the grace of God right?

God never said anything about you or anyone overcoming sin by His Grace...that bullsheet idea was sold to you by your Pastors and Mogs, not Jesus Christ who never once said it is by some grace that you overcome sin.

Jesus Christ never told the woman caught in the act of adultery to go and sin no more only by grace, neither did He teach that it is because of grace that they can live above sin.

Kobojunkie:
This requires at least basics language comprehension skill alone.

You are told in Matthew 5 vs 27- 28, that without even touching anyone, you are already guilty of sin from the moment you consider engaging in sex with another person in your heart. Do you really think then that it matters whether you engage in the physical act or not afterwards?

Sexual lust as you quoted above is a sin quite alright. But where you got it wrong is when you said in your initial comment on the woman's case, that Fornication itself, adultery and homosexuality is not a sin. If they are not a sin are they holy communion?

Heroicvic:
Thought divorce is a sin

First of al, not all divorce is sin, and secondly, like most all sin, even the sin of divorce, God forgives.

SyndyB:
Sexual lust as you quoted above is a sin quite alright. But where you got it wrong is when you said in your initial comment on the woman's case, that Fornication itself, adultery and homosexuality is not a sin. If they are not a sin are they holy communion?

Again, like I said, this requires some thinking along with basic language comprehension skills.

Jesus Christ never declared fornication & homosexuality as sins in God's New Covenant Law - a different and separate Covenant from God's Old Law of Moses - they are not sins. As for adultery, He gave various definitions, one of them being sexual lust, and the others He associated with divorce.

Rather than jump to respond, I suggest you instead take time to ruminate on what has been said so far so you comprehend the significance of what is told you by Jesus Christ.

Kobojunkie:
Again, like I said, this requires some thinking along with basic language comprehension skills.

Jesus Christ never declared fornication & homosexuality as sins in God's New Covenant Law - a different and separate Covenant from God's Old Law of Moses - they are not sins. As for adultery, He gave various definitions, one of them being sexual lust, and the others He associated with divorce.

Rather than jump to respond, I suggest you instead take time to ruminate on what has been said so far so you comprehend the significance of what is told you by Jesus Christ.

Weldone! Jesus never declare Fornication and homosexuality as sin, he uphold them as part of New Covenant rituals. Probably you will tell us that he also engaged in them to keep body and soul together, weldone my brother!

Kobojunkie:
1. OP mentioned she chose abstinence in order to please God, and I took the opportunity to explain to her that Sexual lust, not sex, is what God instead deemed sin. And so her choice of abstinence means nothing to God if she instead indulged in sexual lust.

2. And what I've instead focused on was making it clear that contrary to what is popular, sexual lust in one's heart- not fornication , or homosexuality, or masturbation etc., - is what is condemned as sin by Jesus Christ and this in Matthew 5 vs 27 - 28.

What this means also is it does not matter whether one is a virgin as a believer. The moment one commits this sin of sexual lust one is guilty of adultery, regardless of whether one lives a life of abstinence or not.

You and this your smirk emoji

SyndyB:
Weldone! Jesus never declare Fornication and homosexuality as sin, he uphold them as part of New Covenant rituals. Probably you will tell us that he also engaged in them to keep body and soul together, weldone my brother!

Jesus Christ did not need to uphold the Old Laws in any way or form, and rightly so. For one because the one law He gave you in Matthew 5 vs 27 - 28 more than covers it all as far as sexual sin is concerned

Spend time contemplating what Jesus Christ said.

Kobojunkie:
Look whose reacting!

Keep your views yo secular things you know about and stop quoting scriptures I say unto you again.

timefarm:

Keep your views yo secular things you know about and stop quoting scriptures I say unto you again.

Stop rambling abeg!

Kobojunkie:
Stop rambling abeg!

You are free to say what you want to me, but keep quiet when spiritual deep things are discussed.

You must not comment on everything just because you have no other job.

Kobojunkie:
Not really or maybe still not yet.

Oh okay. Thanks for your time.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ did not need to uphold the Old Laws in any way or form, and rightly so. For one because the one law He gave you in Matthew 5 vs 27 - 28 more than covers it all as far as sexual sin is concerned

Spend time contemplating what Jesus Christ said.

What Jesus said in Mathew 5:27,28 is not an opposition to fornication and adultery, stop interpreting the scriptures wrongly. Read the Bible with understanding.

SyndyB:
What Jesus said in Mathew 5:27,28 is not an opposition to fornication and adultery, stop interpreting the scriptures wrongly. Read the Bible with understanding.

Again, be slow to responding. Consider the meaning in the information you are given before you respond. That will help in your understanding and eventually your responding.

Kobojunkie:
First of al, not all divorce is sin, and secondly, like most all sin, even the sin of divorce, God forgives.

You people are our problem in this continent....
You won't allow someone breathes with the way you twist your
scriptural verses to suit your irrelevant claims.

Can we as humans wish for something and go for it without all these claims of Hellfire and rapture?
Our problem right now is bad leadership and someone will not have sexual urges in peace in this heat period?
If you want to help us as a country kindly admonish our leaders who are on looting spree leaving millions of people in penury


Modified: anyone that quote to troll me here will face serious consequences that they've never faced as an individual on this platform (in Putin's voice) I dey vex
Meanwhile I want to travel out on student visa, any help?

Kobojunkie:
Again, be slow to responding. Consider the meaning in the information you are given before you respond. That will help in your understanding and eventually your responding.

You don't interpret the Scriptures like your textbooks. I Will advice you to seek Holy Spirit to help you understand Biblical lines.