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Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 12:43pm On Apr 08, 2022
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It seems the word"god" is a confusion for you.
I am not confused, you just have not explained yourself. You say Jesus is God but not the one true God.


Was Jesus lying when he said the Father is the one true GOD?
Did they also read that Jesus has a God and a Father?
John 20:17

Jesus said the Father is the one true god....first witness
John believed and wrote it down...... second witness
Paul emphasized on it I Corinthians 8:5&6, Ephesians 4:6.....third witness

God Himself said he's the one GOD Deuteronomy 6:4..... fourth witnesss
No one disagrees here, the question is in John 1.1 is Jesus Christ God or not? Is he a false God or a true God?



Well that's their dogma. The truth is clear in the Bible.
Jesus and God are distinct beings.
We never argued that but you are yet to reconcile John 1.1 to the rest of the scriptures.

You can't even differentiate between Catholics beliefs and unitarians beliefs.
Both have the same poison though.
Explain yourself better.


Whatever you meant by that ain't my problem.


What's your religion? Do you believe in God? If I don't believe in God, we would not be having this discussion. Why do you ask? Have I in any way blasphemed against God?
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by cornelboy(op):
achorladey:
Read, reread, reread read reread. I see someone got served the way you serve others. grin grin grin
Make I laugh in Naira land grin grin grin grin
Your comrade no smart baba.
Have you started peddling reread now? cheesy cheesy

Just save face for your friend. He should come answer the questions first. Make I use am do fun.
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 12:46pm On Apr 08, 2022
[quote author=cornelboy post=111759369][/quote]You need to answer If Jesus is a god or Not. Because if he is, then explain why there is only one true God. I don't think Jesus Christ is a False God.
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Janosky: 12:46pm On Apr 08, 2022
tctrills:
Can I ask you a direct question where we do not beat around the bush?
Is Jesus Christ a God?
Jesus Christ is a god, godlike, divine,("resembling God." The Screenshots are explanatory).
In the Greek interlinear bible his own God & Father is ho Theos ("the God"wink.
Greek John 14:1, John 4:24.Acts 3:13.
1 Corinthians 11:3,Ho Theos is the Head of all gods, his sons.

Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by cornelboy(op): 12:47pm On Apr 08, 2022
tctrills:
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It seems the word"god" is a confusion for you.
I am not confused, you just have not explained yourself. You say Jesus is God but not the one true God.


Was Jesus lying when he said the Father is the one true GOD?
Did they also read that Jesus has a God and a Father?
John 20:17

Jesus said the Father is the one true god....first witness
John believed and wrote it down...... second witness
Paul emphasized on it I Corinthians 8:5&6, Ephesians 4:6.....third witness

God Himself said he's the one GOD Deuteronomy 6:4..... fourth witnesss
No one disagrees here, the question is in John 1.1 is Jesus Christ God or not? Is he a false God or a true God?



Well that's their dogma. The truth is clear in the Bible.
Jesus and God are distinct beings.
We never argued that but you are yet to reconcile John 1.1 to the rest of the scriptures.

You can't even differentiate between Catholics beliefs and unitarians beliefs.
Both have the same poison though.
Explain yourself better.


Whatever you meant by that ain't my problem.


What's your religion? Do you believe in God? If I don't believe in God, we would not be having this discussion. Why do you ask? Have I in any way blasphemed against God?
What's your religion? Are you a Mormon?

Don't you know the difference between Unitarians and Trinitarians?

Just go and figure everything out and believe what you want to believe.

I stand for the TRUTH.
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by cornelboy(op): 12:55pm On Apr 08, 2022
tctrills:
You need to answer If Jesus is a god or Not. Because if he is, then explain why there is only one true God. I don't think Jesus Christ is a False God.
Just like the men Jehovah GOD called gods are not false gods.

1 Corinthians 8:5
[5]There may be so-called gods both in heaven and on earth, and some people actually worship many gods and many lords.

Did you see that there are gods in heaven which Jesus is among, do you think they are false?
Does their being gods mean they are the same as God Himself?

God the Father is the source of all life and Jesus is not an exception!

Your not a baby na.
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Janosky: 12:56pm On Apr 08, 2022
tctrills:
So he is a God, not a false god. the argument has never been if he is mighty or not. he is clearly a true God. So why have you been arguing ever since even when you know Jesus is god.
Jesus Christ is a true god, (emphasis on indefinite article "a"wink.
Man/Jesus is a true god, John 10:35-36.

This is the luminous difference:
His own God & Father is ho Theos the God, the only one true God, John 17:3 & John 20:17.
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Emphasis on definite article "the" ('Greek ho').
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Janosky: 12:59pm On Apr 08, 2022
cornelboy:
Just like the men Jehovah GOD called gods are not false gods.

1 Corinthians 8:5
[5]There may be so-called gods both in heaven and on earth, and some people actually worship many gods and many lords.

Did you see that there are gods in heaven which Jesus is among, do you think they are false?
Does their being gods mean they are the same as God Himself?

God the Father is the source of all life and Jesus is not an exception!

Your not a baby na.
Excellent!
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by cornelboy(op): 1:04pm On Apr 08, 2022
achorladey:
Indeed you got a response and you decided to merry go round and keep asking his response





Reality tells me you got the response and trying to play the victim card you kept asking the question above. grin grin grin and added he talks without reasoning. The format you and your likes used on others is being applied and it does not sit well with you. Your response below brought about his response.



You went further



He has given you response to your question, you keep repeating the question. He asked you read and reread if you are not clear. grin grin




It is your callgrin grin



The reason you are chasing the unsmart one for response to your question for over 48 hours. grin grin



I know enough to know that he has just served you well the same way you and your likes serve others and you don't like or want to accept it. Don't forget you have said on this platform repeatedly your religious organisation are the ones practicing the purest form of worship grin grin grin. The others are foregone conclusion grin grin
Clowns full Naira land bajẹ.

"By their fruits you shall know them"
I'm only seeing these good fruits among the JWs.
Baba face reality and stop the idea and jubilation that you have taken vengeance by serving us what we served you.

Who are the groups doing God's will today?
Who are the doers of the word today?
Who are the people strictly following Christ teachings today?

Oga face reality!
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by cornelboy(op): 1:05pm On Apr 08, 2022
Janosky:
Excellent!
Thanks brother!
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 1:06pm On Apr 08, 2022
Janosky:
Jesus Christ is a true god, (emphasis on indefinite article "a"wink.
Man/Jesus is a true god, John 10:35-36.

This is the luminous difference:
His own God & Father is ho Theos the God, the only one true God, John 17:3 & John 20:17.
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Emphasis on definite article "the" ('Greek ho').
If there is one true God, there cannot be another only true God. definite article does not work here. The only true god simply means that other Gods are false. You cannot call one God a true God and another God the only true God
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Janosky: 1:06pm On Apr 08, 2022
tctrills:
you said he made him like God, You did not say he made him God. 'Like' is a simile. I look like will smith does not mean that I am will smith

Jesus Christ/man is in the image of God.
Jesus Christ/man is like God,( resembling God by copying qualities of his Father, John 5:19).
A god (godlike) is like God.
This is the long and short of 1 Corinthians 11:3 & John 1:1

grin cheesy
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 1:10pm On Apr 08, 2022
Just like the men Jehovah GOD called gods are not false gods.
You seem to be digging up more contradictions by yourself. So are you calling the men true Gods or not?
1 Corinthians 8:5
There may be so-called [b]gods both in heaven and on earth, and some people actually worship many gods and many lords.[/b] When you use the phrase so-called god, you simply mean a false god. So is Jesus Christ a so-called god?

Did you see that there are gods in heaven which Jesus is among, do you think they are false? I think Jesus Christ is a true God. I don't yet know the other Gods so let's not judge.
Does their being gods mean they are the same as God Himself? every God could be different. What point are you trying to make here?



Your not a baby na. I don't know what you mean by this
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 1:14pm On Apr 08, 2022

I stand for the TRUTH.
everyone claims to stand by the truth even when they cant explain their position. If your 10 years kid asks you if Jesus is a true God, what would be your response to this very simple question? Answer like I am your 10 years kid.
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 1:16pm On Apr 08, 2022
Janosky:

Jesus Christ/man is in the image of God.
Jesus Christ/man is like God,( resembling God by copying qualities of his Father, John 5:19).
A god (godlike) is like God.
This is the long and short of 1 Corinthians 11:3 & John 1:1

grin cheesy
Are you saying Jesus Christ is like God but not a God? I thought you said he was a true God earlier. Man is also in the image of God just like you said so what's your point here?
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Janosky: 1:19pm On Apr 08, 2022
tctrills:
If there is one true God, there cannot be another only true God. definite article does not work here.
Oga, your claim is not true.
Moreso, your claim is faulted by the Greek mono Screenshots & John 17:3 Bill Mounce Greek Interlinear screenshot.
Greek mono meaning "one true God/only true God" .
Go to Biblehub & view all the Bible translations of John 17:3.
Did you see definite article ("the"wink precedes "only/one true God"?

cheesy grin grin cheesy grin

Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by yahwehpickin(m): 1:22pm On Apr 08, 2022
cornelboy:
Most Christians (church goers) today from protestants churches and all other Christian denominations believe that Jesus is GOD and he's equal and the same as the Father.
If they are really right as they think they are, why do they find it hard to believe virgin Mary as the mother of GOD?

The fact is, if indeed Jesus is God and he's the Father, there's no blasphemy in saying Mary is the mother of GOD.

The Roman Catholic church is the originator of trinity and "Mary the mother of GOD" doctrines. So why should we believe in one and reject the other?
Please give us 3 scriptural proof of Mary being the mother of God?
The scripture says in the mouth of 2 or more witnesses a matter is established....

I'm waiting for your proof.
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 1:25pm On Apr 08, 2022
Janosky:
Oga, your claim is not true.
Moreso, your claim is faulted by the Greek mono Screenshots & John 17:3 Bill Mounce Greek Interlinear screenshot.
Greek mono meaning "one true God/only true God" .
Go to Biblehub & view all the Bible translations of John 17:3.
Did you see definite article ("the"wink precedes "only/one true God"?

cheesy grin grin cheesy grin
I have made no claim, I have only asked you questions .. let me ask in a simpler way.
If your 10 years old kid asks you if Jesus Christ is a true God, what would be your response?
I think you should calm down a get your thoughts in order. you need to ask yourself, How many true Gods do we have? If The bible says there is only one true God, does that make Jesus Christ true or False?
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 1:35pm On Apr 08, 2022
cornelboy:
What's your religion? Are you a Mormon?

Don't you know the difference between Unitarians and Trinitarians?

Just go and figure everything out and believe what you want to believe.

I stand for the TRUTH.
I don't know if you go about asking everyone their religion on Nairaland and I don't know why you do it. could you explain your intentions?
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Janosky: 1:38pm On Apr 08, 2022
tctrills:
Are you saying Jesus Christ is like God but not a God?
Like God ,a god,a God, godlike, divine,or "Resembling God".
Your dictionary proven it's the same meaning.

Oga, does your son resemble you & possess your qualities/attributes?
John 5:19,copying qualities of God his Father.
Oga, Jesus said so nau. grin
tctrills:
I thought you said he was a true God earlier.
Emphasis on indefinite article "a".
Oga, did you see that?
tctrills:
Man is also in the image of God just like you said so what's your point here?
Colossians 1:15, Jesus is a Creature in the spiritual realm.
Genesis 49:3, just as Reuben is a Creature in the earthly realm.

Oga, in your Bible is there any firstborn without a Father?

Romans 11:35-36, what came through the Almighty Father?
Oga, did you come through your Father?
grin grin
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Janosky: 1:57pm On Apr 08, 2022
tctrills:
I have made no claim, I have only asked you questions .. let me ask in a simpler way.
If your 10 years old kid asks you if Jesus Christ is a true God, what would be your response?
Oga, you want to rigmarole.
This point has been addressed on this thread.

John 17:3, John 14:1, John 1:1 the only true/one true God is ho Theos, his Father.
Jesus Christ is a god..

If you prefer to call Jesus a true God, na your own cup of tea.
Emphasis on indefinite article "a", that is game changer. grin cheesy grin
tctrills:
I think you should calm down a get your thoughts in order. you need to ask yourself, [b]How many true Gods do we have? If The bible says there is only one true God, does that make Jesus Christ true or False?
Oga, how many true God did Jesus Christ show you @ John 17:3?

John 17:3, Jesus Christ spoke, John wrote.
Oga, argue with them.
I jump & pass.
grin grin cheesy grin
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 2:04pm On Apr 08, 2022
Like God ,a god,a God, godlike, divine,or "Resembling God".
Your dictionary proven it's the same meaning.
The bible says Jesus Christ is God in John 1.1 not like God

Oga, does your son resemble you & possess your qualities/attributes?
John 5:19,copying qualities of God his Father.
Oga, Jesus said so nau. grin
If I am a human being, I expect my son to be a human being. the son of a god should be a God.

Emphasis on indefinite article "a".
Oga, did you see that?
Lets study the dictionary meaning of the article A.
used when referring to someone or something for the first time in a text or conversation.
"a man came out of the room"
used to indicate membership of a class of people or things.
"he is a lawyer"
When you say a car, it means a true car. We cannot argue if it's a car or not. If the bible says Jesus Christ is a God, then who are you or I to say he is not or he is not a true God?



Oga, in your Bible is there any firstborn without a Father? I don't get your point. we never said Jesus Christ does not have a father. The argument was if he is a true God or not.

Romans 11:35-36, what came through the Almighty Father?
Oga, did you come through your Father?
I don't get your point we all came from God. Acts 17.29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

Jeremiah 1.5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee, and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 2:07pm On Apr 08, 2022
Janosky:
Oga, you want to rigmarole.
This point has been addressed on this thread.

John 17:3, John 14:1, John 1:1 the only true/one true God is ho Theos, his Father.
Jesus Christ is a god..

If you prefer to call Jesus a true God, na your own cup of tea.
Emphasis on indefinite article "a", that is game changer. grin cheesy grin

[b]Oga, how many true God did Jesus Christ show you @ John 17:3?

John 17:3, Jesus Christ spoke, John wrote.
Oga, argue with them.
I jump & pass.
grin grin cheesy grin
You seem to be on the rigmarole. You don't seem to know who Christ or who God is. at one time you call Jesus Christ God, at another time you say he looks like God. The bible called Jesus Christ God on many Occasions so what is the problem. In fact, what is your stand?
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by Janosky: 2:49pm On Apr 08, 2022
tctrills:
You seem to be on the rigmarole. You don't seem to know who Christ or who God is.
I have a question for you:
Did you see John , John 14:1, John 17:3 & John 20:17 in my response to your claim?
Oga, continue LYING to yourself grin cheesy.

tctrills:
at one time you call Jesus Christ God,
Oga, continue LYING, this is a public forum oo!.
grin grin cheesy grin
tctrills:
at another time you say he looks like God.
Oga, do you look like your own Father?
Case closed.
tctrills:
The bible called Jesus Christ God on many Occasions so what is the problem. In fact, what is your stand?
This Polytheist is very much in love with 3 deities he is worshipping.
Whereas, John 20:17, JEHOVAH'S servants did not.

Oga, enjoy your DELUSION.
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Shalom.
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by cornelboy(op): 2:57pm On Apr 08, 2022
tctrills:
I don't know if you go about asking everyone their religion on Nairaland and I don't know why you do it. could you explain your intentions?
Thanks for your time!
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by cornelboy(op): 3:02pm On Apr 08, 2022
yahwehpickin:
Please give us 3 scriptural proof of Mary being the mother of God?
The scripture says in the mouth of 2 or more witnesses a matter is established....

I'm waiting for your proof.
The trinity and Mary is the mother of God are Roman Catholics dogmas. They are both unscriptural.

What I'm asking is why Pentecostals/protestants don't believe in the Mary is the mother of God doctrine but believe that Jesus is God (Trinity).
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 3:05pm On Apr 08, 2022
cornelboy:
Thanks for your time!
You can always count on it bro
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by cornelboy(op): 3:07pm On Apr 08, 2022
tctrills:
You can always count on it bro
But wait why do you feel upset whenever I asked about your religion?

Is your religion not worth defending?
Why do you hide it?

I don't count on what is useless to me though tbh.
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 3:14pm On Apr 08, 2022
I have a question for you:
Did you see John , John 14:1, John 17:3 & John 20:17 in my response to your claim? I read them all none addressed the questions.

Oga, continue LYING to yourself I was waiting for the insult, you boys never change.


Oga, continue LYING, this is a public forum oo!. Nna what lie did I tell, can a question be a lie. I have become a lier to you for asking you questions that make you rigmarole without answers. Not one of the scriptures you quoted addressed the issue in John 1.1.


Oga, do you look like your own Father? Jesus Christ looks like his father. We were never arguing about who Jesus looks like. We were talking about John 1 which says Jesus is God. That verse did not say he looks like God.


[b]This Polytheist is very much in love with 3 deities he is worshipping.
Whereas, John 20:17, JEHOVAH'S servants did not.
This has nothing to do with John 1.1

Oga, enjoy your DELUSION Rudeboy. Even if we don't agree, you still can show that you come from a good home. It's true this is the internet, I cant come to your house and beat you but still show some respect. If you were making so much sense, the smartest men on earth would have all joined your church.
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 3:16pm On Apr 08, 2022
cornelboy:
But wait why do you feel upset whenever I asked about your religion?

Is your religion not worth defending?
Why do you hide it?

I don't count on what is useless to me though tbh.
I am not upset bro, I just choose not to answer. I never defend religion. God does not need men to fight for him. Again, I asked you, how many people on nairaland have you asked their religion?
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 3:23pm On Apr 08, 2022
cornelboy:
But wait why do you feel upset whenever I asked about your religion?

Is your religion not worth defending?
Why do you hide it?

I don't count on what is useless to me though tbh.
You started this thread with the sole purpose of discrediting Catholics. I am not sure many Catholics care so much because no matter what you or I do, they would continue to be the biggest church for a very long time. I personally don't think that's how to go about it. Every religion has some good in it.
Let's learn and at the same time have fun. Let's disagree but without being rude. I must commend you though, you are one of the few cultured ones from your group on Nairaland.
It's not nice when we make the space toxic for those who disagree with us.
Re: Catholic Are 100% Right By Saying Mary Is The Mother Of GOD! by tctrills: 3:26pm On Apr 08, 2022
Janosky:
I have a question for you:
Did you see John , John 14:1, John 17:3 & John 20:17 in my response to your claim?
Oga, continue LYING to yourself grin cheesy.


Oga, continue LYING, this is a public forum oo!.
grin grin cheesy grin

Oga, do you look like your own Father?
Case closed.

This Polytheist is very much in love with 3 deities he is worshipping.
Whereas, John 20:17, JEHOVAH'S servants did not.

Oga, enjoy your DELUSION.
.

Shalom.
I guess everyone that disagrees with your position, you brand as delusional. May God help your case.
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