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Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by hotseat: 7:38am On Apr 11, 2022
The declaration that Nigeria is a secular state is a facade meant to hoodwink the international community.



The practical reality is that Nigeria is a deeply religious country.



The active involvement of local, state and federal governments in religious matters is there for all to see.



Religion ought to be strictly a personal affair.



The active involvement of states like Kano and others in the North puts a lie to the claim that Nigeria is a secular state.


Imagine a broad daylight bribetaker who notoriously goes with the sobriquet of "GANDOLLAR" being eager and willing to sign the death warrant of the ordinary folks.





H Y P O C R I T E!

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Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by HardMirror(m): 7:43am On Apr 11, 2022
Zico5:
Fighting for an Atheist when he supposed to be fighting for the sustainable of this country. You are one of the advocates of this maladministration but u went mute for seven years despite seeing the rot in the polity. But u can find Ur voice to fight for one dejected guy over there. U have lost all the respect being given to u. Deranged man indeed.
fighting for the right of a human being. Being an atheist is not an offense. Stop the stupidity
Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by GloriousGbola: 7:44am On Apr 11, 2022
Zico5:
Fighting for an Atheist when he supposed to be fighting for the sustainable of this country. You are one of the advocates of this maladministration but u went mute for seven years despite seeing the rot in the polity. But u can find Ur voice to fight for one dejected guy over there. U have lost all the respect being given to u. Deranged man indeed.

wole soyinka is a traditionalist. he was raised christian. if he had been up north maybe he too would have been imprisoned today

this country is a democracy. the root of boko haram is this exact issue - the conviction that because your reigion is teh right one - you have the divine right to impose it on others.

this is the same thing happening here albeit illegally even if pushed by the Kano government.
Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by LOVEGINO(m): 7:47am On Apr 11, 2022
Zico5:
Fighting for an Atheist when he supposed to be fighting for the sustainable of this country. You are one of the advocates of this maladministration but u went mute for seven years despite seeing the rot in the polity. But u can find Ur voice to fight for one dejected guy over there. U have lost all the respect being given to u. Deranged man indeed.
na who do u dis
Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by ChoCho54(f): 7:52am On Apr 11, 2022
kingthreat:
The thing is that if Kano state government does not jail Bala Mubarak, the Kano people will kill him. I hope Bala even survives jail as he could be killed there. Just saying
If he ever gets out of this, then watch as foreign NGOs wade in and make him a hero.
Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by foreshore(m): 7:52am On Apr 11, 2022
Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by ChoCho54(f): 7:53am On Apr 11, 2022
LOVEGINO:
na who do u dis
I gave him a wide berth after reading him. He was very angry grin

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Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by olisaEze(m): 7:55am On Apr 11, 2022
Nigeria is a country at war, and war is old men talking and young men dying. What many haven’t come to terms with is that it is the political class that is at war with the proletariat! Bandits/Boko Haram, ISIS, UGM, Religious extremism, hunger, inflation, are just some of the tools employed by the political class to keep the masses under control! If Donald Trump was a president in Nigeria, the invasion of the Capitol Hill would have been dismissed as a plot by the opposition to embarrass him with a fake video. Much as the video of Ganduje stuffing dollars down his pocket was dismissed by our 'darling daddy' who spoke like the DSS hadn’t given him their report on the crime. undecided
Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by ArewaTech1(m): 8:00am On Apr 11, 2022
BigRocky:

Most of northerners are illiterate,you are only saying this because you were opportuned to be in school.what of thousands of your religious brother on the street,they only care about Allah and never dare criticize leadership.

I agree a large portion of northerners lack English literacy.

Again I want to repeat this. it's not about religion, I am a very religious person. I believe it's more of a poor understanding of religion. Because why aren't the rest of us doing it? Why aren't the majority of us going out blowing ourselves or killing people or all the other crazy stuff.

Regarding you last statement, I know about 5 scholars here in the north who were assassinated because they keep telling the government and the elites the truth. A recent example is Sheikh Khaled, the Abuja Imam who was sacked because he criticized them.[if what he said was even criticism]

another example, begging is warned against. Islam absolutely forbids begging... Except if one is in dire need. But you will see all those beggars on the street, some will say Islam allows begging whereas it is forbidden.

and all those terrorists shouting Allahu Akbar up and down... Wallahi, I swear to you they can't read even the smallest chapters of the quran properly.
I can go on and on....
Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by Nobody: 8:07am On Apr 11, 2022
Zico5:
Fighting for an Atheist when he supposed to be fighting for the sustainable of this country. You are one of the advocates of this maladministration but u went mute for seven years despite seeing the rot in the polity. But u can find Ur voice to fight for one dejected guy over there. U have lost all the respect being given to u. Deranged man indeed.
At least he talked.

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Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by Johel(m): 8:09am On Apr 11, 2022
Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by onlyson16(m): 8:10am On Apr 11, 2022
Zico5:
Fighting for an Atheist when he supposed to be fighting for the sustainable of this country. You are one of the advocates of this maladministration but u went mute for seven years despite seeing the rot in the polity. But u can find Ur voice to fight for one dejected guy over there. U have lost all the respect being given to u. Deranged man indeed.
is like u ar going mad with ur mohamed

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Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by Lionnation: 8:17am On Apr 11, 2022
Zenzu01:
All the fundamental human rights in the constitution are only there so that they can teach it to primary school kids. Not that we really have those rights.

As my friend will always say "Na mumu dey know him right"

Why he made that statement was when we thought we were on our rights not to be scared of patrolling policemen since we're not criminals. To cut the story short. They sha collected up to 20k from us for being innocent citizens.

I wish this country will work but for now, get money and get out of this country. Then you can start expressing your rights in diaspora cheesy cheesy
what an irridimable entity, and some urchins will be here campaigning for one Nigeria
Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by ArewaTech1(m): 8:28am On Apr 11, 2022
ETHICALLYrlght:


Monotheism, in itself, is blasphemous.

Every monotheistic religion calls those who worship any deity apart from theirs idol worshipers. Today hundreds of Pakistanis will call their Hindu neighbours idol worshipers and even some the 200 Million Indian Muslims will their fellow country men idolaters. Public figures in both countries are not left out of this practice of shame. That is how monotheism is designed.

If a Christian said that Prophet Mohammed is not a prophet but an evangelist it would pass as blasphemy right? I've heard Muslims say in public places here in Nigeria that Jesus was a prophet and not the son of God.

That is what Islam teaches and the essence of the very doctrine is blasphemous because a Muslim would be giving Jesus, whom Christians Revere, a description Christians think is unworthy of their God's son grin

1. I don't agree that all monetheistic religions are blasphemous. as far as I know, in Islam, those that don't believe in the same God as us, we call them 'kafir' or 'kafiroon[plural]' which kinda means someone that doesn’t believe. So, I don't know from which authentic source you got that. About India n Pakistan... I believe it's their culture & not Islam.

2. No, it wouldn't pass as blasphemy. any learned Muslim would ask you to back what you said with evidence from the Bible or any religious scripture. Believe me, there's no educated Muslim that will take offence when a Christian comes to them and say that he/she doesn't believe that Prophet Muhammad [peace be upon him] is a Prophet. It's always those people with skewed understanding of Islam.

3. Yes. We Muslims say according to Islam Prophet Jesus [peace be upon him] is not the son of God. I don't see anything wrong with that, the same way I don't see anything wrong with Christian saying according to their Bible they don't believe in Prophet Muhammad [SAW].
Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by BigRocky: 8:50am On Apr 11, 2022
ArewaTech1:


I agree a large portion of northerners lack English literacy.

Again I want to repeat this. it's not about religion, I am a very religious person. I believe it's more of a poor understanding of religion. Because why aren't the rest of us doing it? Why aren't the majority of us going out blowing ourselves or killing people or all the other crazy stuff.

Regarding you last statement, I know about 5 scholars here in the north who were assassinated because they keep telling the government and the elites the truth. A recent example is Sheikh Khaled, the Abuja Imam who was sacked because he criticized them.[if what he said was even criticism]

another example, begging is warned against. Islam absolutely forbids begging... Except if one is in dire need. But you will see all those beggars on the street, some will say Islam allows begging whereas it is forbidden.

and all those terrorists shouting Allahu Akbar up and down... Wallahi, I swear to you they can't read even the smallest chapters of the quran properly.
I can go on and on....

Hmmm
Nigeria will still break.sooner or later cus we aren't one and we can never be.

Once the verse majority of northerners are ready to hold their leaders accountable, Nigeria we move forward.

I mean they are evenly living in poverty while their leaders are enjoying good life.

They are most loyal to hisbah and the sharia law's,I mean their leaders kids does not even care about this things.they go around partying and even wear clothes that expose their body's.

Untill northerners wake up, nothing will work
Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by maiquel: 8:58am On Apr 11, 2022
ArewaTech1:

Well, apparently there's 24 years in the Kano state laws. **shrug

Yeah he can appeal, if he wants to. Perhaps they'd reduce the sentence by 4-10 years. But I believe he's most likely going to end up in prison.
because even in the Nigerian constitutional laws, his offence carries 2 years prison time.

as someone said here, he may not even make it out of the prison alive.

Quote the law please.
Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by Nobody: 9:15am On Apr 11, 2022
ArewaTech1:


1. I don't agree that all monetheistic religions are blasphemous. as far as I know, in Islam, those that don't believe in the same God as us, we call them 'kafir' or 'kafiroon[plural]' which kinda means someone that doesn’t believe. So, I don't know from which authentic source you got that. About India n Pakistan... I believe it's their culture & not Islam.

2. No, it wouldn't pass as blasphemy. any learned Muslim would ask you to back what you said with evidence from the Bible or any religious scripture. Believe me, there's no educated Muslim that will take offence when a Christian comes to them and say that he/she doesn't believe that Prophet Muhammad [peace be upon him] is a Prophet. It's always those people with skewed understanding of Islam.

3. Yes. We Muslims say according to Islam Prophet Jesus [peace be upon him] is not the son of God. I don't see anything wrong with that, the same way I don't see anything wrong with Christian saying according to their Bible they don't believe in Prophet Muhammad [SAW].

I'm interested in your third paragraph.
Saying that Jesus is not the son of God contradicts the tenets of Christianity and is therefore blasphemous.
Saying that Mohammed is not the prophet of God is also blasphemous and contravenes the pillars of Islam.
My conclusion is that by virtue of believing that there's only one God or by virtue of believing that one's religion is supreme faithfuls blaspheme.
Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by Fmghewzy(m): 9:17am On Apr 11, 2022
Zico5:
Fighting for an Atheist when he supposed to be fighting for the sustainable of this country. You are one of the advocates of this maladministration but u went mute for seven years despite seeing the rot in the polity. But u can find Ur voice to fight for one dejected guy over there. U have lost all the respect being given to u. Deranged man indeed.

Your hatred for the man has made you loss your senses.
Just look at the nonsense of an excuse to cancel the man, nothing he does will ever be right in your eyes.
Cause you are simply deranged and would never reason properly.Get rid of that hatred and gain back your senses.
Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by ifko: 9:22am On Apr 11, 2022
olas24u:
The most corrupt people in Nigeria are from the North of Nigeria
Not only corrupt, immediately they know u aren't from their region, they will want to rob u of your hard earn money. Useless people.
Only few of them are human being

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Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by ArewaTech1(m): 9:26am On Apr 11, 2022
maiquel:


Quote the law please.

Criminal Code Act:204

204. Insult to a religion
Any person who does an act which any class of persons consider as a public insult on their religion, with the intention that they should consider the act such an insult, and any person who does an unlawful act with the knowledge that any class of persons will consider it such an insult, is guilty of a misdemeanour and is liable to imprisonment for two years .

Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by ArewaTech1(m): 9:29am On Apr 11, 2022
ifko:

Not only corrupt, immediately they know u aren't from their region, they will want to rob u of your hard earn money. Useless people.
Only few of them are human being

I seriously disagree with you here. Everyone that deals with a common Northerner, knows we are trustworthy.

Oga, even if you hate us soo much... At least say the truth.
Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by ArewaTech1(m): 9:38am On Apr 11, 2022
BigRocky:


Hmmm
Nigeria will still break.sooner or later cus we aren't one and we can never be.

Once the verse majority of northerners are ready to hold their leaders accountable, Nigeria we move forward.

I mean they are evenly living in poverty while their leaders are enjoying good life.

They are most loyal to hisbah and the sharia law's,I mean their leaders kids does not even care about this things.they go around partying and even wear clothes that expose their body's.

Untill northerners wake up, nothing will work
I agree with some of your writings while I don't agree with some. Like saying we agree with hisba. I can confirm to you an average northerner knows hisba are very, very biased in some of their dealings.

Yes, I believe in the authentic Islamic laws, and would love to live a country governed by that. but not the current interpretation of the laws used in some northern states.

I agree we're not one and will likely never be one. Because, fundamentally, we really see life through different lenses

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Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by 9jakool: 9:42am On Apr 11, 2022
ArewaTech1:


Criminal Code Act:204

204. Insult to a religion
Any person who does an act which any class of persons consider as a public insult on their religion, with the intention that they should consider the act such an insult, and any person who does an unlawful act with the knowledge that any class of persons will consider it such an insult, is guilty of a misdemeanour and is liable to imprisonment for two years .
Lol you can be jailed for insulting a religion yet adherents of the dominant faiths insult traditional beliefs all the time. Every imam and pastor would be imprisoned by that standard. It takes a certain level of weakness to want to lock away someone that criticizes your belief.
Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by ArewaTech1(m): 9:42am On Apr 11, 2022
ETHICALLYrlght:


I'm interested in your third paragraph.
Saying that Jesus is not the son of God contradicts the tenets of Christianity and is therefore blasphemous.
Saying that Mohammed is not the prophet of God is also blasphemous and contravenes the pillars of Islam.
My conclusion is that by virtue of believing that there's only one God or by virtue of believing that one's religion is supreme faithfuls blaspheme.
Great analysis Sir.
My conclusion is, blasphemy as it stands now, is subjective.
Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by john633(m): 9:45am On Apr 11, 2022
Soyinka the cultist
Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by ArewaTech1(m): 9:49am On Apr 11, 2022
9jakool:

Lol you can be jailed for insulting a religion yet adherents of the dominant faiths insult traditional beliefs all the time. Every imam and pastor would be imprisoned by that standard. It takes a certain level of weakness to want to lock away someone that criticizes your belief.
1. Lol... It is what it is. That's what's written in the Nigeria's criminal act.

2. If people of the traditional beliefs consider what Imams & Pastors are doing as publicly insulting to their beliefs and religion, well, they are welcome to go to the court.

3. There's a difference between criticizing and insulting.

Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by maiquel: 9:51am On Apr 11, 2022
ArewaTech1:


Criminal Code Act:204

204. Insult to a religion
Any person who does an act which any class of persons consider as a public insult on their religion, with the intention that they should consider the act such an insult, and any person who does an unlawful act with the knowledge that any class of persons will consider it such an insult, is guilty of a misdemeanour and is liable to imprisonment for two years .

Quote the law that carries 24 years please
Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by ArewaTech1(m): 9:53am On Apr 11, 2022
maiquel:


Quote the law that carries 24 years please

Oga, this is what I said.
Maybe there's a miscommunication.
Read it again, please.
ArewaTech1:

Well, apparently there's 24 years in the Kano state laws. **shrug

Yeah he can appeal, if he wants to. Perhaps they'd reduce the sentence by 4-10 years. But I believe he's most likely going to end up in prison.
because even in the Nigerian constitutional laws, his offence carries 2 years prison time.

as someone said here, he may not even make it out of the prison alive.
Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by maiquel: 10:25am On Apr 11, 2022
ArewaTech1:


Oga, this is what I said.
Maybe there's a miscommunication.
Read it again, please.

I'll let you off the hook cos it appears you don't understand what you're saying.
No further questions.
Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by JOemmy(m): 10:51am On Apr 11, 2022
olas24u:
The most corrupt people in Nigeria are from the North of Nigeria


Their leaders are extremely very corrupt and hypocrites. They hide under the Islamic religion to commit all manner of actrocities and impoverish their masses so that they will never be able to challenge them.

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Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by ArewaTech1(m): 11:31am On Apr 11, 2022
maiquel:


I'll let you off the hook cos it appears you don't understand what you're saying.
No further questions.

You are the one that doesn't know what you are saying.

Read my message again... It seems you don't know the meaning of the word Apparently.
Re: Mubarak Bala: Soyinka Accuses Ganduje Of Hypocrisy Over Atheist’s Imprisonment by quigley8: 12:20pm On Apr 11, 2022
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