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Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by GreyLaw(m): 10:48am On Apr 14, 2022 |
Nigerianfactor: Thank you. Someone said God never allows divorce and I wanted to point out that God permits divorce on certain issues. In Mattew 19: 19 the word fornication in the original Greek rendering as used by Jesus is "porneia" and it means harlotry, incest, adultery. So on these three grounds divorce is permitted. But then again, Jesus was speaking to Jews. He wasn't referring to gentile Christians. Everything Jesus preached before he died was, according to him, to "the lost sheep of Israel". That's why he refused to heal the daughter of the canaanite woman whom he called a dog. And he strictly told his disciples not to preach anywhere except for in Judea. He didn't even permit them to speak to the Samaritans. Paul the apostle (the apostle to the gentiles) in Romans 7: 1 talked about marriage, divorce and remarriage and specifically said it was for those who knew the law. That is, those under the law. You and I were never under the law, we never had the law, we never knew the law. We were saved and engrafted into the common wealth of Israel when the real Israel refused Jesus. In Acts 15:1-35, when the Jews wanted gentile believers to obey the dos and don'ts of the law, the Jerusalem Council came together headed by Peter and James and came to four conclusions: The gentile/non-jewish believers (that's me and you) 1. They should abstain from fornication 2. Abstain from idolatry 3. Abstain from strangled meat 4. Abstain from blood. And that such Christians should not be burdened with other issues. But people love to put yokes on themselves. Divorce can be granted in some instances. For example, the Bible says a man shall leave his father and mother and shall cleave to his wife. How about when boys of 9 years are forced to marry a woman who may even be older? He was forced I to marriage as a boy and not a man. So his decision was not considered. He was forced. If he grows to manhood and rejects that marriage will you fault him? You see why I said there are issues to this thing. Finally when Jesus was speaking in Matthew 19:10, his disciples said that if the marriage laws had to be that tough "then it's not good for a man to marry." Jesus told them that, that saying is not for everybody. I don't want to debate on this matter, but I respectfully ask that you check the scriptures I gave and make your own conclusions. |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by JOemmy(m): 10:52am On Apr 14, 2022 |
The Bible clearly stated that there can be a divorce in certain circumstances so why are all these churches now against divorce where did they get their own doctrine from? |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by AllahEatsShit: 10:54am On Apr 14, 2022 |
Where is the confusion? Does the Catholic Church own the Irish Republic simply because most Irish people are Catholics? Princess Diana was an Anglican and her marriage was celebrated in the Anglican Church, so what does that have to do with the Catholic Church? These followers of the illiterate "prophet" Sex Award Winner (SAW) don't know how to mind their business. They ignore the filth surrounding them and they concentrate on their imaginary grievances with other more civilized and more advanced religions. hakeem4: |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by JOemmy(m): 11:01am On Apr 14, 2022 |
okpanachil: Does the white people who brought christainity to africa still observes all these laws? Everyone knows that they divorce at the slightest opportunity. |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by nobilie: 11:03am On Apr 14, 2022 |
blazingblender:In separation, the doors to come back is left open and you are still married. If anything happens to the man morrow, the woman still has rights as she is still his wife. Divorce is we are no longer married. For nolification; a marriage founded on wrong infor or lies can be nolified (meaning, there was no marriage at first). Eg, if the man/woman was married before and did not relate it to the new partner and before mariage, it is nolified. If the woman has no womb and she is aware but refused to inform the man before marriage or the man is impotent, knowing but did not inform the partner, that marriage will be nolified if one partner informs the church. Marriage wahala plenty. Some young people sef no go like marry. Lots of men suffer in marriage this days hustling to make family fit as women will always mount presuure, "when you know you cant take care of wife and children, why did you marry?" |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by okpanachil: 11:08am On Apr 14, 2022 |
JOemmy: Forget social media,it is even more difficult to divorce in the west because of spousal support, only few people take that route. That is why many young people of western orientation do not want to get married anymore and if they do they must sign a prenup. Also note that most people in the west are no longer very keen on religion. 1 Like |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by sorepco(m): 11:45am On Apr 14, 2022 |
I think there is a big difference.... null/nullify...having no legal or binding force : INVALID Divorce: the action or an instance of legally dissolving . I think that if you divorce your wife or she divorces she has a right to a monthly stipend or percentage of your salary. But i think if your marriage is nullify then before the law it never existed and you owe you spouse nothing! Lets say your spouse discovers after marriage that you are impotent and did not tell her she can nullify the marriage. Or that the woman has no womb and did not tell the man...he can nullify! . backnbeta: |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by hakeem4(m): 12:41pm On Apr 14, 2022 |
Sonn:first, I am not a Muslim, I had a Christian upbringing; I just have the name cause my dad is a Muslim 1) it seems you do not know the meaning of a cult that is why you are showing your ignorance. 2) You cannot just make any claim without any evidence to back it up; it is synonymous to just say I am the richest man in the whole Africa without any evidence. 3) well I have no response to that. 4) well, why should a doctrine be different from that of the government? do you still stone adulterers? 5) okay i would if all religious people give us peace and allow people live their lives without any interference. |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by HRMK: 12:53pm On Apr 14, 2022 |
seperation of bed but still in same room?one of them wuld get killed one day!that isnt the appropriate way out!! |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by johnlegend01: 12:57pm On Apr 14, 2022 |
hakeem4: Sorry, but you sounded like a Muslim!!! The Catholic Church is not a cult. The fact that some people in the past have used the positions in the Church to perpetrate evil does not make the Church a cult. What could you probably be privy to that gives you that feeling you are not the ignorant one? I buttress that the Catholic Church is the most organised. You're allowed to disagree though. The Church was founded by Jesus himself and he chose His first leader. Please disagree. One random man did not just wake up one morning, starting the Church. |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by hakeem4(m): 1:06pm On Apr 14, 2022 |
johnlegend01:A cult is a system of religious veneration and devotion directed towards a particular figure or object. So it falls under the category of a cult. But it does not mean it is a secret cult which is what you are thinking i am talking about |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by johnlegend01: 1:23pm On Apr 14, 2022 |
hakeem4: It is wrong to use the word "cult" for the Church. The Church is the body of Christ and you have to rever it. If you were brought up in Christianity like you said, you will know that. Yes, it is unfortunate that every now and then, wrong people are in the position to guide others in matters of faith, causing disunity, chaos, turning the teachings, and so on. The Church however will remain what it is. When Jesus comes back, he will come with his sieve. |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by liasmiram2567: 1:35pm On Apr 14, 2022 |
DrLazCommenting: Where did God tell a Muslim to marry ten wives? The maximum allowed is Four. |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by obotematics: 1:36pm On Apr 14, 2022 |
Oga ,please don't push the polity. Don't encourage divorce.i know children whose lives ended when thier parents divorced these were blessed children.my mother endured. That's why and reason I'm who I am. Sorry |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by Gospel2Day: 1:54pm On Apr 14, 2022 |
DrLazCommenting: Did you say that alcohol is godly for Christians? You're confused. And for your information, Muslims don't serve the same God that we Christians worship. Their god loves beheading, bloodshed and suicide bombing and having intercourse with a 9 years old little girl. Their god is hedonistic, promising 72 virgins and pool of wine for faithful Muslims in the afterlife. The God of heavens and holiness and honesty and hope is the God Christians believe in and serve. Shalom. |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by Vulcan24(m): 2:06pm On Apr 14, 2022 |
You can run away from a bad marriage or union but that your character will follow you Me I have seen plenty women shouting domestic violence and leaving Today they are not better than a waste bin These ppl shouting DV are killing the flies and not minding what is attracting the flies The women of these days are destroyers of their own home and some of these men are reacting. What do you say of a woman who took all her kids to her mother's place for 4days without telling the hubby ! I know a woman who boldly said she can't clean her house because she's working True! Some women are to be divorced instead of making a nuisance in marriage My advise to the men, if your woman is acting like king Kong and making you endure shit all in the name of am a gentleman, go-to her parents, relate the shit and use tipper throw her things out Better than you making headlines for social media warriors |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by Poleski: 4:26pm On Apr 14, 2022 |
What's the difference between divorce and nullification? Religion is a huge joke! |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by NickD(m): 5:08pm On Apr 14, 2022 |
backnbeta:Yes, you get it now. If a woman is in an abusive relationship she can choose to seperate from her husband, the church will grant her that and not divorce. Lies leads to nullification of marriage if the person lied to chooses to push for it. Let me also paint a different picture (Also from the Catholic Church), a family friend of mine got married and along the line his wife ran mad and he separated from her (did diabolical things according to him) despite this he couldn't remarry, she later died after 15 years and that was when he finally got married to another lady. Dude literally paused his life for that long, good thing was the union produced 2 children. Kinda harsh but it is what it is. |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by Globad(f): 9:31pm On Apr 14, 2022 |
fastseo: No be God create Jesus? |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by fastseo: 7:43am On Apr 15, 2022 |
Globad:Have you given your life to Christ? If not please do because ur statement sound as one who hasn't gotten a close relationship with the father. The aim of every believer in christ is to make heaven at last and this very objective the devil hates. He had brought diverse religion to confuse man. Its a privilege you have to know him right now we are still alife. |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by Maynman: 7:46am On Apr 15, 2022 |
SmartPolician: So you mean the victim should go back to the tormentor after some time? |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by Maynman: 7:48am On Apr 15, 2022 |
NickD: But all these are grounds for divorce too. |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by aaking(m): 10:51am On Apr 15, 2022 |
DrLazCommenting: Where do you read it that taken alcohol is godly? Mention the particular verse(s) |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by KingDamzzy(m): 12:12pm On Apr 15, 2022 |
He spoke well until the "Catholic Church doesn't believe in divorce" statement. You are contradicting yourself Sir. |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by Globad(f): 4:43am On Apr 16, 2022 |
fastseo: You didn't answer the simple question |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by fastseo: 6:37am On Apr 16, 2022 |
Globad:John 1 to the end read it. Proverb 8 till end, the same proverb 8 vs 22 till end. Then answer who jesus is. |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by Globad(f): 7:40am On Apr 16, 2022 |
fastseo: I asked you a question and you're turning it into an assignment |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by fastseo: 8:21am On Apr 16, 2022 |
Globad: Jesus is God |
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by Globad(f): 9:51am On Apr 16, 2022 |
fastseo: And God is Jesus |
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