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Maynman:
So god is knowing in a specific area?

We are a specific area!

Dtruthspeaker:
We are a specific area!

So your god knows only us, not other things? He is not smart in technology or biology?

Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him, standing firm in the faith, because you know that the family of believers throughout the world is undergoing the same kind of sufferings. And the God of all grace, who called you to his eternal glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast.
1 Peter 5:8-10 NIV

---suffering is part of the Christian faith---

Maynman:
So your god knows only us, not other things?

Who cares about other things as long as it is well with me?

None of us would be bothered if Saturn has not eaten or if the moon is sad!

We don't care.

Dtruthspeaker:
Who cares about other things as long as it is well with me?

None of us would be bothered if Saturn has not eaten or if the moon is sad!

We don't care.

So your god is all knowing only in men affairs. He doesn’t know how the weather forms, how the thunder strikes, or how earth and heaven was created, his knowledge is only specific to one area?

Dtruthspeaker:
You said "bent" now you changed it to "part".
And all in all, it has become a religion for you people to suffer!

Oga be calming down!
go back and read...carefully this time around.

arejibadz:
this one the main reasons religion never sits right with me like why all this happening , i haven't seen any one who has answered this question WHY IS SUFFERING PART OF RELIGION

You sent "bent" not part!

Maynman:
So your god is all knowing only in men affairs. ...

You are only interested in yourself being a man and because you have seen what happens to one man also happens to you, that is why you even happen to care about men!

Which is even why you are speaking to me.

Else, you would not even care.

So, No Road!

arejibadz:
y cant he stop all the evil that's happening then

Why should He stop that which men continue to choose for themselves?

Are you suggesting God should impose His Will on men?

Dtruthspeaker:
You are only interested in yourself being a man and because you have seen what happens to one man also happens to you, that is why you even happen to care about men!

Which is even why you are speaking to me.

Else, you would not even care.

So, No Road!

But I don’t know all about men. I don’t know what the other man is thinking. I don’t know what will happen 20 years from now or what exactly happened 20 years ago. They said your god knows all these…
Are you saying he doesn’t?

Maynman:
Yet still went ahead to create man not to reject him ,And he created hell to put those who rejected him after knowing that man will reject him.
He created man to suffer.

God created men, and men chose suffering and Death (be returned to dust from which He created them) over obeying God's Will. What makes God the sadist in this?

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Hell is beyond the purview of this here discussion since Hell is only for those who claim to believe in Jesus Christ.

Kobojunkie:
[/b]God created men, and men choose to suffer and die (be returned to dust from which He created them) instead of obeying God's Will.[b]

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Hell is beyond the purview of this here discussion since Hell is only for those who claim to believe in Jesus Christ.

Before he created man didn’t he know that man will reject him? Did he create man before he realized the mistake?

Yes and we can talk about the one you know, is it from William tyndale?

Maynman:
Before he created man didn’t he know that man will reject him? Did he create man before he realized the mistake?

He knew and rather than impose on men, He gave to them exactly what they wanted... so why is God is the sadistic one here?

What about Tynsdale?

Kobojunkie:
He knew and rather than impose on men, He gave to them exactly what they wanted... so why is God is the sadistic one here?

He knew yet still created man that way? Before he gave to man didn’t he know which man will exactly which?
Are you sure this god is all knowing?
He created man to suffer since he knew man will suffer before he even created man.

Maynman:
But I don’t know all about men....

And neither do you need to know all men nor do you care to know all men nor is it your business to know all men.

No Road!

Maynman:
He knew yet still created man that way? Before he gave to man didn’t he know which man will exactly want?
Are you sure this god is all knowing?
He created man to suffer since he knew man will suffer before he even created man.

Again....He knew and rather than impose on men, He gave to them exactly what they wanted... so why is God is the sadistic one here?

What about Tynsdale?

Dtruthspeaker:
And neither do you need to know all men nor do you care to know all men nor is it your business to know all men.

So is this the definition you are giving to your god, when he said he is “all knowing” he is the one that called himself that..

Kobojunkie:
Again....He knew and rather than impose on men, He gave to them exactly what they wanted... so why is God is the sadistic one here?

What about Tynsdale?

Again, he knew yet still created man that way? Before he gave to man didn’t he know which man will exactly want?

Are you sure this god is all knowing?
He created man to suffer since he knew man will suffer before he even created man.

I asked a question

Maynman:
So is this the definition you are giving to your god, when he said he is “all knowing” he is the one that called himself that..

I gave no definition only showed how it operates.

No Road!

Dtruthspeaker:
I gave no definition only showed how it operates.

No Road!

Your god has knowledge in a specific area, got it.
You are very wise.

Maynman:
Again, he knew yet still created man that way? Before he gave to man didn’t he know which man will exactly want?

Are you sure this god is all knowing?
He created man to suffer since he knew man will suffer before he even created man.

I asked a question

Again... God knew man would reject Him, but He went ahead and created men anyways, than impose on men. He gave to them exactly what they wanted.

What about Tynsdale?

Maynman:
Your god has knowledge in a specific area, got it.
You are very wise.

God knows what He Knows and what He should know.

No Road!

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Kobojunkie:
Again... God knew man would reject Him, but He went ahead and created men anyways, than impose on men. He gave to them exactly what they wanted.[b]

What about Tynsdale?

He created man to suffer then, does that look like a loving person, I thought he created the world with love?
That’s a nonchalant god, indifferent and sadistic.
Before each man was born, god has already given him what he will do as you said.

I only asked about it.

Dtruthspeaker:
God knows what He Knows and what He should know.

No Road!

Yes and he doesn’t know what he shouldn’t know.
Got it.

Maynman:
Yes and he doesn’t know what he shouldn’t know.
Got it.

As is His Right and Law.

Dtruthspeaker:
As is His Right and Law.

You are very wise.

Maynman:
[/b]He created man to suffer then, does that look like a loving person, I thought he created the world with love?
Before each man was born, god has already given him what he will do as you said.

I only asked about it.

Men chose to suffer and die, this instead of obeying God.

Created the world with love? I am not sure what you mean by that at all.

God gave [b]each man what he will do? Where do you get your tale from?

Kobojunkie:
[/b] Men chose to suffer and die, this instead of obeying God.

Created the world with love? I am not sure what you mean by that at all. [b]

God gave each man what he will do? Where do you get your tale from?

[b][/b]

But you said before man was created, he already saw that man will chose to suffer and die? It was a premeditated action.
How is god the beginning and end? What do you mean when he is all mighty?
He is not all knowing, he doesn’t know our destiny.
Which god are you talking in particular? The Jehovah one or the Yahweh?
Where did you get the tale that he created the world and man without love, can a bad person create this beautiful world?

Maynman:
But you said before man was created, he already saw that man will chose to suffer and die? It was a premeditated action.

He is not all knowing, he doesn’t know our destiny.
Which god are you talking in particular? The Jehovah one or the Yahweh?

What was premeditated here? God's creation of man or man's actions against God?

Kobojunkie:
What was premeditated here? God's creation of man or man's will and choice to disobey God?

Everything or he is not all knowing?
Since God created man, and knew what will happen to man even before man was created to even start doing good and evil, how is that not premeditated?

Maynman:
Everything or he is not all knowing?
Since God created man, and knew what will happen to man even before man was created to even start doing good and evil, how is that not premeditated?

So God is to blame everything a man chooses to do evil?

Kobojunkie:
So God is to blame everything a man chooses to do evil?

Before man even knew what evil was and chose it , didn’t your god know that it is evil that man will choose?
He created man right and he knows all things?