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Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by Emilokoiyawon: 2:54am On Apr 29, 2022
lexy2014:


Same thing we are saying:

You can't educate others when u haven't educated yourself. Kindly answer the following:

How is Tinubu right man for d job and why should Nigerians vote for him?

I have already educated you. STOP repeating the same question over and over again.

Meanwhile: On Tinubu's mandate we stand. BAT is the ONLY man for the job. Vote BAT for President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria 2023.
Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by lexy2014: 3:01am On Apr 29, 2022
Siwel25:


Becos he is a proven Performer. He's a man whose legacy has outlived governments. RRS and LIRS are been copied everywhere cos he's an innovative thinker.

He multiplied the IGR of Lagos and his template is still multiplying it till today.

We can point to things he did unlike other imaginary performers being hyped online..

In summary, Competence, Experience and a transformative spirit sets Jagaban aside. His records do not even require Google to be picked out.

Cheers!

A proven performer how? What legacy have outlived govts? Was there no LIRS before Tinubu became governor? What has Tinubu got to do with RRS? Innovative thinker in what way? Has Lagos state never experienced any innovative thinker as governor in its history?

If he multiplied the IGR of Lagos, kindly give us a brief on the multiplication & how has it impacted in the lives of the citizens of the state? Do Lagos state workers collect higher salaries than their counterparts in other states? Kindly give us a brief on alpha beta.

According to u: "We can point to things he did unlike other imaginary performers being hyped online.."

Aren't u hyping Tinubu online as an imaginary performer because I can see what u are pointing at that he did. Kindly point to the things he did.

Then kindly explain how Tinubu is Competence, Experience and transformative spirit sets Jagaban aside.

If u say "His records do not even require Google to be picked out", then u should have no problems producing such records in this discussion. Records in what areas?
Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by lexy2014: 3:01am On Apr 29, 2022
Emilokoiyawon:


I have already educated you. STOP repeating the same question over and over again.

Meanwhile: On Tinubu's mandate we stand. BAT is the ONLY man for the job. Vote BAT for President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria 2023.

You can't educate others when u haven't educated yourself. Kindly answer the following:

How is Tinubu right man for d job and why should Nigerians vote for him?

If Tinubu is going to set nigeria on the path of greatness, Can he fight corruption and nepotism? Can he allow the will and interest of the people when his interest and that of his cronies is threatened?

What foundation did Tinubu lay for Lagos? What makes Lagos the 5th biggest economy in Africa? Can u breakdown the criteria used to arrive at that?

How is Tinubu the right man for the job?
Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by Deadlytruth(m): 5:11am On Apr 29, 2022
AntonVince:


False.
Were Abiola and Buhari Pagans when millions of Christians voted them?
Even when a fellow Christian (Jonathan) was on the ballot in 2015 and 2019, didn't million of Christians vote a Muslim Buhari against him out of genuine commitment towards seeing a better Nigeria?

Nigerians simply don't want an octogenarian, Parkinson disease and incontinence-suffering age-cheating thief as president.
Stop whipping up religious sentiment.
Didn't Nigerians also vote for Buhari who was accused of all in the bolded?

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Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by Deadlytruth(m): 5:12am On Apr 29, 2022
Indispensable85:



Adamawa has no Apc governor. Make una dey try read na.
You should understand that the average Nigerian has little flair for logical reasoning.

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Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by Deadlytruth(m): 6:02am On Apr 29, 2022
lexy2014:


What will tinubu do for nigeria if he becomes president? Can he fight corruption and nepotism? Can he allow the will and interest of the people when his interest and that of his cronies is threatened?

Per the bolded; there is this concept which most Nigerians seem not to understand and this is it:

Contrary to the simplistic view of the average Nigerian corruption and nepotism are in themselves not the problem of Nigeria, rather, they are mere symptoms of a more fundamental problem which is the faulty structure we operate presently that concentrates resources at the center and too much powers on the executive arm of government. Let me start with nepotism: using appointment of say INEC chairman as example, the present constitution gives that power to the president and his personal choice. Pray tell me how there will be no nepotism on the part of the president in choosing INEC chairman and how such chairman can actually conduct a free and fair election without being influenced by the president to whom he owes allegiance of gratitude? This is where the white man is better than us because in their own case most powers are vested in institutions and not in persons.
Where institutions make appointments, nepotism easily gives way to meritocracy. So rather than fight nepotism which is not even practiceable, you strengthen institutions and change the laws to transfer powers of appointments to such institutions.

On corruption, the only workable solution is a return to resource control because in true federalism marked with resource control, the FG gets about 30% remittance from the states as we had it in the first republic. With that 30%, after paying the salaries of the armed Forces and staff of other federal agencies, there will be virtually nothing left to pay jumbo allowances to National Assembly members or for the ministers to loot. This will make politics no longer attractive to political investors hence political office will only be sought by those who genuinely want to serve. These we all know will be accomplished veterans of different disciplines who will bring their professional experiences to beat on legislative business. Moreover, there will no longer be federal allocation hence every state's inddegenes will work hard to generate their own revenues which if embezzled they will feel concerned hence will start voting based on issues of who can effectively manage resources as against zoning which kills merit. This will engender accountability on the part of elected persons to office and corruption will thereby reduce both at the states and center.
As far as we know, Tinubu is one of the foremost crusaders for restructuring required to set the structure to this very type that kills nepotism, encourages hardwork, and discourages federal allocation which causess the entitlement mentality that fuels corruption.

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Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by Deadlytruth(m): 6:13am On Apr 29, 2022
Agbegbaorogboye:


Stop with the lies. Tinubu never pleaded with anyone for Ambode. You guys always turn history on its head to suit your flawed narratives. Go back to 2018. After Ambode did that press conference where he accused Sanwo-Olu of being a junkie in Gbagada, Tinubu released a statement to openly back Sanwo-Olu against Ambode. You can fish on the internet for that if you have lost the memory.

Tinubu is a dictator in Lagos. He never allowed Fashola to have a say on who his successor would be. So it's not with Ambode he started that. And i'll like to hear from you that Ambode was not a popular governor in Lagos.

Secondly, in Lagos, no one gets anything, and I mean anything without the tacit or open support of Tinubu not even the kingships.

So why are you claiming Buhari should have no say on who his successor will be? Ain't that duplicitous

If you think Fashola should have a say in who succeeds him, when ideally, it is a thing to be decided by the entire party members and then the voters, how are you different from the Tinubu you accuse of being a dictator? Fashola's alleged wish to have a say makes him as dictatorial as Tinubu. So why are you having sympathy for one dictator over another?

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Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by Deadlytruth(m): 6:18am On Apr 29, 2022
Agbegbaorogboye:


I'm pointing out to you that it is very disingenuous of you and a betrayal of Abiola's memory whom you Tinubu followers always claim to venerate to say Babangida never betrayed him but cancelled the election for self-survival sake. Apart from how infantile and silly such submission is, it renders the whole NADECO and SW efforts for the reclamation of Abiola's mandate a joke.
You should be ashamed to be found doing that except you're just a hired hand who has no sense of SW's political journey
What renders the whole NADECO and SW's Abiola's mandate actualization effort a joke more than the later decision of your likes to later in 1999 vote for Obasanjo to become the ultimate beneficiary of that struggle despite having been the foremost enemy of June 12 who was mocking Abiola while the struggle for his mandate lasted?

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Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by Agbegbaorogboye: 6:29am On Apr 29, 2022
Deadlytruth:


If you think Fashola should have a say in who succeeds him, when ideally, it is a thing to be decided by the entire party members and then the voters, how are you different from the Tinubu you accuse of being a dictator? Fashola's alleged wish to have a say makes him as dictatorial as Tinubu. So why are you having sympathy for one dictator over another?
Very weak and pointless argument. Fashola is not the subject of discussion so, so exhibiting cognitive dissonance.
Secondly, I said "have a say". In Nigeria's political culture, the incumbent ALWAYS have their say on who the successor will be, especially at party level. It was only fashola who didn't get that privilege by virtue of a certain Tinubu.
Now you want to turn back and accuse fashola of what he hasn't become just to defend someone who is already at the tip of that role.
Maybe Ambode was also dictatorial. Let me hear you defend that one.
Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by Agbegbaorogboye: 6:34am On Apr 29, 2022
Deadlytruth:

What renders the whole NADECO and SW's Abiola's mandate actualization effort a joke more than the later decision of your likes to later in 1999 vote for Obasanjo to become the ultimate beneficiary of that struggle despite having been the foremost enemy of June 12 who was mocking Abiola while the struggle for his mandate lasted?
Can you explain how OBJ was the foremost enemy of June 12 and how he mocked Abiola?
OBJ spent four years in Jos prison for mocking Abiola?
You see, that's the problem with Tinubu's urchins. You'll praise Tinubu who was in UK after failing to get a seat at the military govt as a major sponsor of NADECO and June 12 loyalist while you demonize OBJ who actually stayed four years in prison on suspicion of working against the govt of the day to return the country back to democracy.
Same set of people still voted for Buhari who was a major player in the abacha administration, that jailed both Abiola and OBJ while sending Diya to the gallows. You all voted for him and call him a reformed democrat. You all however denounced the likes of Lateef Jakande for working with that same administration
Who is deceiving who?
Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by Great2017: 6:40am On Apr 29, 2022
ArewaNorth:

Have u ever heard the opinion of Northerners about it? Politics isn't abt satisfying ethno-religious desires but interest and permutations to win election!
You just lied because Buhari won on the platorm of ethno-religious desire.
Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by Great2017: 6:48am On Apr 29, 2022
Deadlytruth:


If you think Fashola should have a say in who succeeds him, when ideally, it is a thing to be decided by the entire party members and then the voters, how are you different from the Tinubu you accuse of being a dictator? Fashola's alleged wish to have a say makes him as dictatorial as Tinubu. So why are you having sympathy for one dictator over another?
You have turned few people deciding who becomes ACN gubernatorial candidate to all party members. Why do you love lying glaringly to yourself?
Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by orisa37: 6:52am On Apr 29, 2022
Dishon. Abdulrazak Namdas is a BOKOHARAM.
Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by lexy2014: 7:20am On Apr 29, 2022
Deadlytruth:


Per the bolded; there is this concept which most Nigerians seem not to understand and this is it:

Contrary to the simplistic view of the average Nigerian corruption and nepotism are in themselves not the problem of Nigeria, rather, they are mere symptoms of a more fundamental problem which is the faulty structure we operate presently that concentrates resources at the center and too much powers on the executive arm of government. Let me start with nepotism: using appointment of say INEC chairman as example, the present constitution gives that power to the president and his personal choice. Pray tell me how there will be no nepotism on the part of the president in choosing INEC chairman and how such chairman can actually conduct a free and fair election without being influenced by the president to whom he owes allegiance of gratitude? This is where the white man is better than us because in their own case most powers are vested in institutions and not in persons.
Where institutions make appointments, nepotism easily gives way to meritocracy. So rather than fight nepotism which is not even practiceable, you strengthen institutions and change the laws to transfer powers of appointments to such institutions.

On corruption, the only workable solution is a return to resource control because in true federalism marked with resource control, the FG gets about 30% remittance from the states as we had it in the first republic. With that 30%, after paying the salaries of the armed Forces and staff of other federal agencies, there will be virtually nothing left to pay jumbo allowances to National Assembly members or for the ministers to loot. This will make politics no longer attractive to political investors hence political office will only be sought by those who genuinely want to serve. These we all know will be accomplished veterans of different disciplines who will bring their professional experiences to beat on legislative business. Moreover, there will no longer be federal allocation hence every state's inddegenes will work hard to generate their own revenues which if embezzled they will feel concerned hence will start voting based on issues of who can effectively manage resources as against zoning which kills merit. This will engender accountability on the part of elected persons to office and corruption will thereby reduce both at the states and center.
As far as we know, Tinubu is one of the foremost crusaders for restructuring required to set the structure to this very type that kills nepotism, encourages hardwork, and discourages federal allocation which causess the entitlement mentality that fuels corruption.

You haven't answered my questions. The questions I asked are very simple & doesnt require this plenty grammar.

What will tinubu do for nigeria if he becomes president? Can he fight corruption and nepotism? Can he allow the will and interest of the people when his interest and that of his cronies is threatened?
Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by bennybuhari: 7:25am On Apr 29, 2022
This Namdas is one of the liars. He wants to become Adamawa governor in 2023 and he needs Tinubu’s financial support

PrinceOfLagos:
He said "Don't mind those politicians that lie".

So he meant that some politicians been lieing to Tinubu because of the money they want to get from him ?

I pity Tinubu, by the time this northerners are done with him and his ill gotten money, he go wish ground open swallow am
Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by PrinceOfLagos: 7:27am On Apr 29, 2022
bennybuhari:
This Namdas is one of the liars. He wants to become Adamawa governor in 2023 and he needs Tinubu’s financial support

No lies
Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by wirinet(m): 7:35am On Apr 29, 2022
Dsalvo:
When we tell ethnocentric and bigoted Nigerians that Tinubu is iconically popular amongst his peers, the kingmakers who decide Party representatives before the public cast a single vote, they resort to insults.

You lot can see confirmation from the horses mouth ba? Democracy is about respecting the will of the majority including those involved in the internal democratic votings of our major political Parties.

False thats not democracy, its rather a quasi monarchy or at worst diarchy, whereby the political leaders are chosen by one man.


Bola TINUBU is the best, he is my choice. Tinubu will make a fantastic President. I have known him well for over 20years. More than 40% of the members of the National Assembly today, are there because of this man. He is our mentor, he is my leader. He has a talent for building leaders.

We should kukuma hand over Nigeria to Tinubu and rename the country Tinubuland or Tinubarea.
Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by Deadlytruth(m): 8:40am On Apr 29, 2022
lexy2014:


You haven't answered my questions. The questions I asked are very simple & doesnt require this plenty grammar.

What will tinubu do for nigeria if he becomes president? Can he fight corruption and nepotism? Can he allow the will and interest of the people when his interest and that of his cronies is threatened?

If you claim can't understand how he has shown capacity to fight nepotism and corruption, and how the people's will will always triumph in the analysis, then it is obvious you are only trying to be politically correct hence need no further response.

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Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by Deadlytruth(m): 8:49am On Apr 29, 2022
Great2017:

You have turned few people deciding who becomes ACN gubernatorial candidate to all party members. Why do you love lying glaringly to yourself?

We are talking of ideal situation which you yourself mentioned. And by the way remember that Tinubu wished that Fashola didn't get a second term but didn't succeed in removing him because both the general members of the party and the voters threatened to vote for him all the same should he defect to PDP to seek his second term. Therefore all these talk of one man deciding who becomes governor in Lagos doesn't hold water. What matters is that you impress voters who have the ultimate say even over the party and no one can remove you. Whoever is removed by the party or whoever in Lagos must have failed the voters in one way or the other. Ambode was easy to remove because his misdeed touched on religion which is a very sensitive issue to most Nigerians. He was in support of his wife who harassed a priest and insisted on having her particular seat in the Lagos State Government House Parish which that priest stood against. Ambode intervened by sacking the priest and that was sacrilegious in the eyes of Lagos voters who reasoned that a man who could harass a religious authority, despite he himself being a Christian, would be a danger if given a second term.
Remember how Ihedia Ohakim of PDP lost reelection to Rochas Okorocha of APGA in Imo State because he physically assaulted a Catholic priest. Right now, Hope Uzodinma's chances of a second term are almost zero because of the manner in which his security forces arrested Nwosu right inside an Anglican Church Parish shooting live bullets which got members of the congregation scampering for safety thus disrupting the solemn service going on. Nigerians don't joke with religion.

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Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by Great2017: 9:10am On Apr 29, 2022
Deadlytruth:


We are talking of ideal situation which you yourself mentioned. And by the way remember that Tinubu wished that Fashola didn't get a second term but didn't succeed in removing him because both the general members of the party and the voters threatened to vote for him all the same should he defect to PDP to seek his second term. Therefore all these talk of one man deciding who becomes governor in Lagos doesn't hold water. What matters is that you impress voters who have the ultimate say even over the party and no one can remove you. Whoever is removed by the party or whoever in Lagos must have failed the voters in one way or the other. Ambode was easy to remove because his misdeed touched on religion which is a very sensitive issue to most Nigerians. He was in support of his wife who harassed a priest and insisted on having her particular seat in the Lagos State Government House Parish which that priest stood against. Ambode intervened by sacking the priest and that was sacrilegious in the eyes of Lagos voters who reasoned that a man who could harass a religious authority, despite he himself being a Christian, would be a danger if given a second term.
Remember how Ihedia Ohakim of PDP lost reelection to Rochas Okorocha of APGA in Imo State because he physically assaulted a Catholic priest. Right now, Hope Uzodinma's chances of a second term are almost zero because of the manner in which his security forces arrested Nwosu right inside an Anglican Church Parish shooting live bullets which got members of the congregation scampering for safety thus disrupting the solemn service going on. Nigerians don't joke with religion.
Fashola's case was an exceptional case in the ACN. So, you cannot base your submission on that singular case. What about Ambode, who showed him the way out? Who also brought in Sanwo-Olu? Few people have been deciding who gets what since time immemorial in ACN. Have you not also read recently that Tinubu's wife has chosen who would replace her at the Senate?
https://www.nairaland.com/7101355/remi-tinubu-names-wasiu-eshilokun-sanni
Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by AntonVince: 9:18am On Apr 29, 2022
Deadlytruth:

Didn't Nigerians also vote for Buhari who was accused of all in the bolded?

If you fool me once, the shame is on you; but fool me twice, then the shame is on me.
Affliction shall not rise a second time.
Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by Deadlytruth(m): 9:45am On Apr 29, 2022
AntonVince:


If you fool me once, the shame is on you; but fool me twice, then the shame is on me.
Affliction shall not rise a second time.


Shagari who had most of such attributes was voted for far before Buhari. In fact those who now accuse Ahmadu Bello of ethnoreligious bigotry chose him as their political partner right at independence. Obasanjo who was voted for massively by the same folks in 1999 was a product of the establishment which also produced Shagari. Yaradua who was equally sick, frail and terminally ill and armed with solid credentials of religious bigotry evidenced by being one of the governors to sign Sharia into law despite Nigeria's secularity spelt out clearly in the constitution was equally massively voted for by Nigerians.
So the "fooling" or "affliction" has always been our way and I don't see it going away all of a sudden because of Tinubu who even has no records of religious bigotry and whom EFCC set up by his enemies has given a clean bill of health on the corruption allegations being resurrected against him now just for political capital.

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Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by Deadlytruth(m): 9:50am On Apr 29, 2022
Great2017:

Fashola's case was an exceptional case in the ACN. So, you cannot base your submission on that singular case. What about Ambode, who showed him the way out? Who also brought in Sanwo-Olu? Few people have been deciding who gets what since time immemorial in ACN. Have you not also read recently that Tinubu's wife has chosen who would replace her at the Senate?
https://www.nairaland.com/7101355/remi-tinubu-names-wasiu-eshilokun-sanni

So because Fashola's case runs against your narrative, it was exceptional? Is it not something that makes a case exceptional? Do things just get exceptional by accident?
You have not been able to counter the religious angle of Ambode's case. Why?
As per the case of Wasiu Eshilokun Sanni; you don't cite an event yet to occur in trying to substantiate a hypothesis. It is simply illogical.

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Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by Deadlytruth(m): 10:18am On Apr 29, 2022
Agbegbaorogboye:

Can you explain how OBJ was the foremost enemy of June 12 and how he mocked Abiola?
OBJ spent four years in Jos prison for mocking Abiola?

It seems you are an expert in putting words into people's mouths. Which line in my response suggests the opinion that Obasanjo was imprisoned for mocking Abiola? Care showing me?
So you need anymore to tell you that Obasanjo publicly declared that Abiola wasn't the messiah, and that all through Obasanjo's 8 years as civilian president he deprecated all calls on him to honour Abiola by naming a national monument after him or changing democracy day from May 29 to June 12? What further facts and evidences do you need that Obasanjo was an enemy of June 12?

Agbegbaorogboye:

You see, that's the problem with Tinubu's urchins. You'll praise Tinubu who was in UK after failing to get a seat at the military govt as a major sponsor of NADECO and June 12 loyalist while you demonize OBJ who actually stayed four years in prison on suspicion of working against the govt of the day to return the country back to democracy.

Should I call you Obasanjo urchin since one automatically becomes an urchin for taking up an opinion?
For the first time I have met an Nnamdi Kanu superior as regards the uncanny ability to rewrite history. If Obasanjo was jailed on the suspicion that he was working for the actualization of June 12, then how does it make sense that IBB the annuler of June 12 would later pick him as sponsor him to power with the support of the Northern Oligarchy on whose advice IBB did the annulment? See how people wobble logically when they lie to themselves and believe those their own lies as the truth?
The story that Tinubu sought a position in the Abacha government doesn't make sense logically. It only exposes the intellectual deficiency of Kola Abiola the originator of it who was himself chasing after the daughter of IBB the annuler of his father's mandate while others were battling to recover it. Kola Abiola said "Tinubu asked Abacha to make him civilian administrator of Lagos State because he had thought that Abacha would appoint civilian administrators like IBB did in his time....." when in actual fact IBB didn't appoint any civilian administrator at any moment in his eight year military rule. So if Kola Abiola who lacked a full grasp of what was as public knowledge as the composition of IBB's administration, why should anyone take him seriously on his claims about issues which were more secrets like allegations of Tinubu privately trying to negotiate with Abacha? Colonial Nyiam, a core and founding member of NADECO has burst Kola Abiola's claim challenging him to say he wasn't chasing amorously after IBB's daughter while the struggle for June 12 actualization lasted. See it below:
https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2019/06/15/june-12-kola-abiola-is-unfair-to-asiwaju-tinubu-col-nyiam/?amp=1

He added that Abiola was the one who single handedly introduced Tinubu to him in London as a trusted solder of his mandate. I guess Kola who was occupied with wet dreams over IBB's daughter knew the character of his father's soldiers more than his father who owned the mandate in question?

Agbegbaorogboye:

Same set of people still voted for Buhari who was a major player in the abacha administration, that jailed both Abiola and OBJ while sending Diya to the gallows.

And Diya you now defend wasn't the deputy to Abacha hence the most major player in the Abacha Junta which later jailed Abiola and he himself? Do you have any use for logic at all? In any case, Buhari only held PTF chairmanship position which had nothing to do with the Gestapo arm of Abacha Junta hounding June 12 advocates unlike Diya who was right in the Supreme Military council in charge of the Gestapo. And in any case, Buhari has, as far as June 12 is concerned, vindicated those who voted for him by his changing of democracy day from Obasanjo's malicious May 29 to the actual June 12 date. So what else do you have to say?

You all voted for him and call him a reformed democrat. You all however denounced the likes of Lateef Jakande for working with that same administration
Who is deceiving who?[/quote]

And his honouring of Abiola by making June 12 democracy day while Jakande was still alive waters down your argument here.

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Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by Nobody: 10:36am On Apr 29, 2022
lexy2014:


A proven performer how? What legacy have outlived govts? Was there no LIRS before Tinubu became governor? What has Tinubu got to do with RRS? Innovative thinker in what way? Has Lagos state never experienced any innovative thinker as governor in its history?

If he multiplied the IGR of Lagos, kindly give us a brief on the multiplication & how has it impacted in the lives of the citizens of the state? Do Lagos state workers collect higher salaries than their counterparts in other states? Kindly give us a brief on alpha beta.

According to u: "We can point to things he did unlike other imaginary performers being hyped online.."

Aren't u hyping Tinubu online as an imaginary performer because I can see what u are pointing at that he did. Kindly point to the things he did.

Then kindly explain how Tinubu is Competence, Experience and transformative spirit sets Jagaban aside.

If u say "His records do not even require Google to be picked out", then u should have no problems producing such records in this discussion. Records in what areas?

Ure so ignorant that U did not know that he created the LIRS from the ineffective Inland board. I will leave it there for you to read more before embarrassing yourself in public.
Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by Great2017: 11:05am On Apr 29, 2022
Deadlytruth:


So because Fashola's case runs against your narrative, it was exceptional? Is it not something that makes a case exceptional? Do things just get exceptional by accident?
You have not been able to counter the religious angle of Ambode's case. Why?
As per the case of Wasiu Eshilokun Sanni; you don't cite an event yet to occur in trying to substantiate a hypothesis. It is simply illogical.
Since the birth of ACN in Lagos, there have been political offices ranging from Senate and House of Representatives to Gubernatorial and House of Assembly members, almost all these offices have been decided by a select few headed by Tinubu. You then basing your decision of everybody choosing the Representatives on Fashola's second coming which is even not up to 0.1%. That is the reason I called it an anomaly. Fashola's first coming was done by Tinubu. Do you want to argue that too? My argument still remains that the process leading the choices of these political representatives is undemocratic. Other parties are not excluded.
Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by ArewaNorth: 12:23pm On Apr 29, 2022
Great2017:

You just lied because Buhari won on the platorm of ethno-religious desire.
You are ignorant of politics. Party will never consider that but politicking along ethno-religious line as an important tool in politics.
Buhari and APC would've never been if not because of GEJ's docile leadership.
Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by Great2017: 12:55pm On Apr 29, 2022
ArewaNorth:

You are ignorant of politics. Party will never consider that but politicking along ethno-religious line as an important tool in politics.
Buhari and APC would've never been if not because of GEJ's docile leadership.
What then brought Buhari to power in 2019? Was his reign in 2015 any better than that of Jonathan?
Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by lexy2014: 1:36pm On Apr 29, 2022
Siwel25:


Ure so ignorant that U did not know that he created the LIRS from the ineffective Inland board. I will leave it there for you to read more before embarrassing yourself in public.

It's because u aren't ignorant that's why I asked u the questions but u seem to be having challenges answering the questions. Pls try again:

A proven performer how? What legacy have outlived govts? Was there no LIRS before Tinubu became governor? What has Tinubu got to do with RRS? Innovative thinker in what way? Has Lagos state never experienced any innovative thinker as governor in its history?

If he multiplied the IGR of Lagos, kindly give us a brief on the multiplication & how has it impacted in the lives of the citizens of the state? Do Lagos state workers collect higher salaries than their counterparts in other states? Kindly give us a brief on alpha beta.

According to u: "We can point to things he did unlike other imaginary performers being hyped online.."

Aren't u hyping Tinubu online as an imaginary performer because I can see what u are pointing at that he did. Kindly point to the things he did.

Then kindly explain how Tinubu is Competence, Experience and transformative spirit sets Jagaban aside.

If u say "His records do not even require Google to be picked out", then u should have no problems producing such records in this discussion. Records in what areas?
Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by lexy2014: 1:37pm On Apr 29, 2022
Deadlytruth:


If you claim can't understand how he has shown capacity to fight nepotism and corruption, and how the people's will will always triumph in the analysis, then it is obvious you are only trying to be politically correct hence need no further response.

You haven't answered the simple questions:

What will tinubu do for nigeria if he becomes president?

Can he fight corruption and nepotism?

Can he allow the will and interest of the people when his interest and that of his cronies is threatened?
Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by ArewaNorth: 1:47pm On Apr 29, 2022
Great2017:

What then brought Buhari to power in 2019? Was his reign in 2015 any better than that of Jonathan?

Insecurity challenges brought Buhari to power and nothing more. The main issue we had was Boko Haram and I'm very much sure 95% of Boko Haram activities is crippled compared to PDP regime.
Re: Abdulrazak Namdas: I Will Support Tinubu, I care Less Who The VP Is by forgiveness: 2:04pm On Apr 29, 2022
Nigerialabalaba:
Jungle don dey mature sumol sumol.
VP wey betray hin benefactor na hin wan become a moral leader?Impossicant!
Kano dey gidigba for Jagaban.
Jagaban 2023 na God's project for Nigeria . That na why Jagaban don go report all d odale ore to God in Mecca.

Did Tinubu betray AD (Alliance Democracy)? Yes or No?

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