Klass99:
The people you talked to are not lying, more and more Nigerians are starting to open up about life in the diaspora and being truthful about their experiences.

A neighbour who works with Mobil and has relocated his family of 4 (wife & 3 kids) to Canada told me life is not as rosy as we think and it's really tough overseas. But our people like to lie and pretend about these things.

Does it make sense to leave a good paying job for a menial one like some of your friends are doing? I don't care how much it pays, you don't need a soul sucking job that pays XYZ amount before you can live a good life. You get the money and end up with other issues like depression, health hazards etc

I have heard of a 50 something year old Nigerian man who works in a factory over there, he suffers from back pain and all, but he can't quit. He has to keep grinding because they took out a mortgage on their house, him and wifey are still working to pay off. I can't recall the exact age I was told but it was something close to our retirement age in Naija. If they were here, chances are, he would have built his house and been able to retire from active duty by now.

Before you japa watch a YouTube video of Wode Maya & Juliet (search for it on Youtube) to help you make an informed decision. Take your time to read the comments that follow as well, it is African diasporans sharing their truth and experiences.

who go collect mortgage on factory work There are easier jobs like uber, food delivery. Remote customer care, security, admin staff etc. why factory work with back pain. I dont believe this o

ednut1:
If you cannot get a work visa or permanent residency to Canada or Australia. Dead the idea of quitting your job to go do study visa in uk with a wife and 4 kids . He go hard and rough. If your wife still young try Canada. To get financial advisor work for a start no go hard you. While you plot career advancement.

This is good advice for him.

ednut1:
who go collect mortgage on factory work There are easier jobs like uber, food delivery. Remote customer, security, admin staff etc. why factory work with back pain. I dont believe this o

I don’t believe it either, especially since most of the factory work in Canada and the US is automated, making it much easier. Even guys in the automobile plants don’t work very hard anymore plus Canada has so many options for work.

1stGenAmerican:


If your friend really works for Mobil in Canada then the tough life he tells you about must be due to the weather otherwise, he is telling lies.
I often laugh because those in the diaspora never start sharing ‘truth and experiences’ until things go sour for them or they feel threatened by too many Nigerians wishing to move abroad and have a comfortable lifestyle like theirs.

Honestly I think the poster made that up or the person who told him/her is exaggerating.

I still sold a PlayStation console to a SHELL Worker who’s family is in Canada at one apartment beside Eko Hotel few weeks ago and guess what, He told me not to relent in making moves and leaving for greener pastures.

He bursted my brain when he said one of the things that made him come home was because he son needed some things for his upcoming birthday so he had to come home and gather one or two things, he can confidently afford a comfortable lifestyle.

Also, One thing I’ve learned in life includes studying people.

If anyone dissuades you from doing something to better your life and or self, please be wary of them.

If everyone didn’t do, then no one will succeed & If it was easy everyone would do it and it will therefore have no meaningful value.


Quick one:

I have a friend who travelled to the USA few years back.

He was my customer before we became friends and I noticed he has this passion for making sure he’d convince customers unless you never wanted to buy in the first place.

He first told me when he went to UK and came back he said he regretted coming back as we lived on the Lagos island Proper, I mean Agarawu, Isale Eko, Idumota, Balogun, Oke Arin etc.

The day he first came back from UK he said he had about 400£ On him as he did some business there before coming back.

The day he came back there was no light and owing to where we lived back then, there is no space in between buildings and generators are poorly placed in such a way that if your neighbors dies of carbon monoxide poisoning e no concern you.

He said the noise of the Gen almost made him lose it.

The major thing that drive him so so hard was the fact that his dad’s elder bro is a UK citizen who when he calls for help tells him it’s not easy, when he asked that the man pull him overseas, man said it’s not easy.

Same man said he wouldn’t wish his worst enemy to go through what they through in the abroad, came home and took his son to come experience it.(see the plot twist)

He told me this with tears, and he wasn’t even angry cos he said fair and square the man has given him money on few occasions when he needs assistance and the man owes him nothing, just that he wished his father was alive too.

He went back to visit UK again the second time and I was still there looking like a JJC cos I didn’t have much funds like him.

Upon his arrival he gathered money and faced USA, he first said he wanted to come back but I was the ine telling him not to even try it cos his children unborn will curse him for making such decision.

He’s in the US working and making his money legit with no regrets.

I can’t say much on here.

To cut my long story short he’s now a USA Citizen.

If you want to suffer please choose your suffering wisely.





See his two passports below, now he can choose which kind suffer he wan suffer...




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1stGenAmerican:


I don’t believe it either, especially since most of the factory work in Canada and the US is automated, making it much easier. Even guys in the automobile plants don’t work very hard anymore plus Canada has so many options for work.

Would wish to go to Canada some day.

I applied 2015 but had no stRong support or POF.

But not giving up is the motto.

People should quit speaking ill about ‘nominal jobs’ outside of Nigeria like it’s a dirty subject. I don’t do manual labor however I fail to understand how people feel that they’re above honest work.
Garbage men in New York averaged $150,000-$175,000 during the pandemic and $75,000-$90,000 in ordinary years and garbage collection is definitely a ‘nominal job’.

One definite thing about nominal jobs in the US, Canada, and Europe: you will get paid on time every payday like clockwork or else your employer will face legal trouble. Can the same be said about their jobs back in Nigeria? Is there a guarantee that you’ll be paid on time?

modskiller:


Would wish to go to Canada some day.

I applied 2015 but had no stRong support or POF.

But not giving up is the motto.

The most important thing is doing it the right way, no shortcuts.
My advice to you is to study the immigration policies and paths while building yourself up to speed. Turn over every stone and learn about all avenues. Be persistent and you’ll succeed. Nothing is impossible, believe me.

1stGenAmerican:


The most important thing is doing it the right way, no shortcuts.
My advice to you is to study the immigration policies and paths while building yourself up to speed. Turn over every stone and learn about all avenues. Be persistent and you’ll succeed. Nothing is impossible, believe me.

Lol, I’m a bit over the study thing now as book no fit enter my head again lol.

But will definitely try in all my might to make sure I visit some day, not for my sake but my generation unborn.

1stGenAmerican:


I don’t believe it either, especially since most of the factory work in Canada and the US is automated, making it much easier. Even guys in the automobile plants don’t work very hard anymore plus Canada has so many options for work.

amazon in Canada and many plants are still manual. Someone with back pains would have gone for something easier unless the person no get papers and has no choice .

1stGenAmerican:


I believe you but ! Let me guess: he had gotten used to those things not happening to him but was slapped back into reality quickly (no pun intended, sir)? You’re really right about not wanting to pay their own due.
Tell me please, do you feel he took your suggestions not to return to heart or was he dead set on going back, refusing to listen to voices of reason?

Honestly I’m this kind of person that if I tell you something, once is more than enough.

If I love you so so much I’d tell you twice or more but once you do otherwise and the consequence(s) comes knocking(learned this the hardest ways & I don’t wish go through such circumstances anymore)
I swear down i will ignore you and cut you off, it’s a way of life that will give me peace of mind.

And once you threaten my peace, you got to go ASAP.

He had his ear checked few days back even though he has had ear issues way back but he had to bribe his way at the hospital to even get an appointment.

I totally zeroed my mind when @Sanchez01 made a thread about moving to UTAH and said they’ve not taken light for two weeks, I cried.

pansophist:
If you finally decide to travel, then remove the UK, and to some extent, Canada from that list (or make it your last option). The rest are good, but the suffering you will face before you reach the promised land in places like Canada and UK, you might have been old then.

I don't really know about life in Australia but saying Canada should be last on a list that includes Germany & New Zealand is funny. If you have the right skill sets, you can easily hit the ground running in Canada. @OP, I'd suggest you stay back in Nigeria with your earnings but is life only about money? It's left to you to answer. I live in Canada.

Peace!

Some persons are not passionate about what they want. They easily get discouraged by mere fraction experiences of others.

They are like push and start vehicle. They don't trust themselves and don't have any game plan. Don't be like them.

Everyone destiny is different in this life. Just trust your guts, have a clear plan and follow your heart.

justwise:


You have a good salary, wife and kids, don't leave all that only to travel to start afresh again. It will take you average 15-20yrs to get the level you are right now. You can go for holiday in any of those countries to see things for yourself.

If you were younger with no wife or job i will encourage you to go but you are settled already

A good salary job that is not guaranteed. He can be sacked any time and that's the reality in Nigeria financial sector. That uncertainty on the job is what is driving such decisions to japa

Klass99:


Pls check out that video I mentioned, but most importantly read the comments, before you finally decide. It is very eye opening.

One troublesome nairalander claimed Africans in the diaspora were lying, but how can Africans from different countries, living in different locations all be lying about the same thing? Na plan?

Don't worry he may soon land here, he likes japa threads and believes Naija is a shithole . By his posts you will know him.

It's not about the amount one is earning in Nigeria at times.
People leave their well paying jobs because of Nigeria security situation.

charles009:


Appears every one is complaining about the plenty tax and bills. Seems I will hold on to my job strongly for the now until further notice. Thanks guys....

The difference between paying tax abroad and tax free Nigeria is the reason you want to leave Nigeria.
Some of the things you enjoy abroad are tax payers money

I have a story from two family brothers.
The first brother has a refugee status in France, not doing well and has nothing at home for now but advices me to travel genuinely.

The second brother travel as a student and he's doing well with a company to his name back home but complain that life in US is tough.
The good thing is that I have study both of them and made decision to better myself.
So OP, study those you can and make decision

Klass99:


There is nothing misleading about it. Someone has shared a personal experience about her life and time in the UK. It is left for people to make of it, what they want. They can use the info or her experience to help them make an informed decision on their japa plans and destinations.

You can watch it, then decide to stay back, move or reroute your destination. The choice and final decision always lies with an individual and the OP is seeking other people's views on his japa plans. I only pointed him to views of people with actual diaspora experience, how many of us commenting here have lived abroad? I haven't o, so let me direct him to those who have.

And when you say few individuals, I wonder if you read most of the comments below her video. I didn't listen to Juliet's tale alone, I read other people's views and experiences too. But make I rest, I am not here to argue on someone's thread, just passing on info and sharing knowledge.

Of course its misleading and disingenuous, you lived all your life abroad, worked and save more to invest back home then finally return home to start telling people that abroad is shit, why did they not return home after 2-3yrs of living abroad to enjoy that wonderful Africa ?

ednut1:
amazon in Canada and many plants are still manual. Someone with back pains would have gone for something easier unless the person no get papers and has no choice .

There are thousands of difference jobs within Amazon, many are automated while some requires equipment to avoid manual lifting. You can't have back pain if you follow their training

LOL the kind of dangerous, and unbelievable creatures that reside in that Australia eh!

pansophist:


AU, NZ, and GER are good options. Not sure about Germany, but the other two speak English, have an easy path to citizenship, have good weather, good income, and job opportunities, and are not crowded.

modskiller:


Honestly I’m this kind of person that if I tell you something, once is more than enough.

If I love you so so much I’d tell you twice or more but once you do otherwise and then consequence(s) comes knocking(learned this the hardest ways & I don’t wish go through such circumstances anymore)

I swear down i will ignore you and cut you off, it’s a way of life that will give me peace of mind. And once you threaten my peace, you got to go ASAP.

He had his ear checked few days back even though he has had ear issues way back but he had to bribe his way at the hospital to even get an appointment.

I totally zeroed my mind when @Sanchez01 made a thread about moving to UTAH and said they’ve not taken light for two weeks, I cried.[b][/b]

Here they have not given light for two weeks. What an opposite

Good choice, but not because of your job's earning power but because it's not easy to start all over again abroad most especially with four kids.

Klass99:
The people you talked to are not lying, more and more Nigerians are starting to open up about life in the diaspora and being truthful about their experiences.

A neighbour who works with Mobil and has relocated his family of 4 (wife & 3 kids) to Canada told me life is not as rosy as we think and it's really tough overseas. But our people like to lie and pretend about these things.

Does it make sense to leave a good paying job for a menial one like some of your friends are doing? I don't care how much it pays, you don't need a soul sucking job that pays XYZ amount before you can live a good life. You get the money and end up with other issues like depression, health hazards etc

I have heard of a 50 something year old Nigerian man who works in a factory over there, he suffers from back pain and all, but he can't quit. He has to keep grinding because they took out a mortgage on their house, him and wifey are still working to pay off. I can't recall the exact age I was told but it was something close to our retirement age in Naija. If they were here, chances are, he would have built his house and been able to retire from active duty by now.

Before you japa watch a YouTube video of Wode Maya & Juliet (search for it on Youtube) to help you make an informed decision. Take your time to read the comments that follow as well, it is African diasporans sharing their truth and experiences.

Is your mobil neighbor working there or just relocated his family? I know many of these big kids guys in Nigeria just relocated their family but they still kept their jobs in Nigeria and are shuttling between both countries. They didn't relocate because they have a good job.But then f8e those who don't have a good job, they might have to take their chances and relocate

damzy88:
I don't really know about life in Australia but saying Canada should be last on a list that includes Germany & New Zealand is funny. If you have the right skill sets, you can easily hit the ground running in Canada. @OP, I'd suggest you stay back in Nigeria with your earnings but is life only about money? It's left to you to answer. I live in Canada.

Peace!

Canada has the highest numbers of professionals doing menial jobs, and it's very very expensive and lonely place. In my view, I don't know any western country that is as lonely and boring as Canada. Its just crush your soul. A country that is 10x bigger than Nigeria but has less the population of Kano and Lagos, will be lonely and expensive since its sparsely populated.

I'm not saying Canada is bad, but if you compare it with places like Australia or Germany, then it should take the back seat. Oh and its too cold, like freezing cold. Who wants that? I know many people that left Canada back to Europe, but I know only few people that left Europe to Canada.

Of course if someone is coming from places like Nigeria, Canada is better, but compare to other Europeans countries, Canada is a joke. You guys are suffering there lol

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1stGenAmerican:
When friends and family abroad tell you how difficult things are, they’re basically hinting at you not to ask them for money or favors.

If it’s so bad, why didn’t they jump back on a return flight to Nigeria?

Don't mind them,you hardly hear any good news coming our of Nigeria everyday.Tell me one aspect of that society that is working well today.Nothing.Most of their graduates are unemployed, underemployed or roaming the streets desperate for survival

1stGenAmerican:
People should quit speaking ill about ‘nominal jobs’ outside of Nigeria like it’s a dirty subject. I don’t do manual labor however I fail to understand how people feel that they’re above honest work.
Garbage men in New York averaged $150,000-$175,000 during the pandemic and $75,000-$90,000 in ordinary years and garbage collection is definitely a ‘nominal job’.

One definite things about nominal jobs in the US, Canada, and Europe: you will get paid on time every payday like clockwork or else your employer will face legal trouble. Can the same be said about their jobs back in Nigeria? Is there a guarantee that you’ll be paid on time?

God bless you for this

canada2022:


A good salary job that is not guaranteed. He can be sacked any time and that's the reality in Nigeria financial sector. That uncertainty on the job is what is driving such decisions to japa

No job Is guaranteed anywhere

You are the first person i have said Dont travel to.The first reason been that you dont want to struggle.Some people including myself are ready to sweep the street,clean plate and do everything morally right and legal to be citizen of a sane country where their is reward for hardwork.
Second reason .You dont have any skill aside sales.My brother just stay for naija.Nigeria has been kind to some people and i believe you are one of them but for people like me nigeria has been tough and unkind so moving to a location that is though but has a good reward system for my labour is enough for me

pansophist:


Canada has the highest numbers of professionals doing menial jobs, and it's very very expensive and lonely place. In my view, I don't know any western country that is as lonely and boring as Canada. Its just crush your soul. A country that is 10x bigger than Nigeria but has less the population of Kano and Lagos, will be lonely and expensive since its sparsely populated.

I'm not saying Canada is bad, but if you compare it with places like Australia or Germany, then it should take the back seat. Oh and its too cold, like freezing cold. Who wants that? I know many people that left Canada back to Europe, but I know only few people that left Europe to Canada.

Of course if someone is coming from places like Nigeria, Canada is better, but compare to other Europeans countries, Canada is a joke. You guys are suffering there lol

Dude, I hardly compare countries because I believe everyone's destiny is different. If I tell you the number of people I know in Germany that wants to leave. lOOOL. What of language barrier.

See, no country is easy. Just choose your hard.

Bye.

All this JAPA JAPA, relocating to the UK cost nothing less than 5million naira, u see say no be poor pple dey JAPA... If I have 5m as I dey na business sure for my papa land o