Nebulax:
And how many votes did Buhari receive in Rivers state in both 2015 and 2019 election. Abi sacrifice don get new meaning ni?

Abeg don't mind the OP. He is one of the most sentimental and emotional Nairalander existing.

Amaechi, in the grand scheme of things, did very little for Buhari's win for those who understand Nigerian politics and what it takes for a Party to emerge victorious at the centre.

It is ironic those who argue that Presidency should not be a reward system, to deny Tinubu, can infer that Amaechi 'deserves' to succeed Buhari because of his 'sacrifice for APC. Completely hypocritical garbage.

Upworkwriter007:
Thank you. The guy is just making funny arguments.

If you are as sophisticated as you sound so we assume that Amechi did everything only for Buhari and not the party, Buhari is the head of the party as the president, okay, Buhari feels like Amechi did something for him, if you think winning is more important than losing, try losing for once, meanwhile I'm talking about sacrifices not winning, others may have won more for APC and Buhari but Amechi sacrificed more, please go check up the meaning of sacrifice in the dictionary come back and tell me the differences you spotted

candidtalk:


Abeg don't mind the OP. He is one of the most sentimental and emotional Nairalander existing.

Amaechi, in the grand scheme of things, did very little for Buhari's win for those who understand Nigerian politics and what it takes for a Party to emerge victorious at the centre.

It is ironic those who argue that Presidency should not be a reward system, to deny Tinubu, can infer that Amaechi 'deserves' to succeed Buhari because of his 'sacrifice for APC. Completely hypocritical garbage.

Abi, Amaechi's sacrifice could have resorted to Apc winning Rivers state but reverse is the case. If others lose their states like Amaechi, Buahri wouldn't have won in 2015 and 2019. That's logical

Upworkwriter007:
lol....so Buhari was rewarded with presidency? After all, buhari needed them, they didn't need buhari...they could have remained in ACN and still been senators.

You can as well say that Buhari was rewarded with the APC ticket which is what it was

Nebulax:


Abi, Amaechi's sacrifice could have resorted to Apc winning Rivers state but reverse is the case. If others lose their states like Amaechi, Buahri wouldn't have won in 2015 and 2019. That's logical

You don't make sacrifices when you win, it us you lose, get the logic

AlexBells:

Buhari ministerial appointment is his personal business, I'm saying let there be official compensation for Amechi, you keep repeating that he has no party structure, well he had until he gave it all up for Buhari and APC,

So if the party wants to compensate sacrifice; they will place Amechi over Tiunbu.

AlexBells:

You can as well say that Buhari was rewarded with the APC ticket which is what it was

Great, then Amaechi has been rewarded for being minister of transport for 8 years.

muykem:
So if the party wants to compensate sacrifice; they will place Amechi over Tiunbu.

Yes, because Tinubu is one of the very many people that won for the party but Amechi is one of the very few exceptional individuals that sacrificed for the party, you can't say that Lagos won more for APC than Kano

Upworkwriter007:
Great, then Amaechi has been rewarded for being minister of transport for 8 years.

Buhari offered Amechi an appoint, APC should reward him officially

AlexBells:

You don't make sacrifices when you win, it us you lose, get the logic

This your comments is just illogical. How can you win/lose an election without sacrificing or compromising

AlexBells:

Buhari offered Amechi an appoint, APC should reward him officially

And have Apc rewarded other loyalists who worked for the party? If yes name one

Nebulax:


I don't know why your analysis are always flopped. If I haven't attacked candidates from other party, why should I attack candidates from Apc.

You made your assertion by saying your candidate ready to fight dirty, and for youto name that candidate is now an Herculean task to you.

Stop arguing blindly for sanity's sake

Maybe you should go and attack the sdp candidate, being in the same party doesn't mean same interest politics is about interet

Nebulax:


And have Apc rewarded other loyalists who worked for the party? If yes name one

You don't reward a winner that way, because the rewards is in winning, most other candidates won for both themselves and APC, Amechi made sacrifices then lost, he deserve more rewards

AlexBells:

You don't reward a winner that way, because the rewards is in winning, most other candidates won for both themselves and APC, Amechi made sacrifices then lost, he deserve more rewards

And what about Ngige? Didn't he also sacrifice for Apc and lost his relevancy in his home state?

Shouldn't he be rewarded specially as well?

Nebulax:


And what about Ngige? Didn't he also sacrifice for Apc and lost his relevancy in his home state?

Shouldn't he be rewarded specially as well?

By my political calculations, Ngige from the South East won't go far in the APC election besides Ngige was no longer a governors in the lead up to 2015,

AlexBells:

By my political calculations, Ngige from the South East won't go far in the APC election besides Ngige was no longer a governors in the lead up to 2015,

Like Amaechi, Like Ngige cos they both don't have political base in their respective states. You don't expect any of them to go far.

Politics is always local

Nebulax:


Like Amaechi, Like Ngige cos they both don't have political base in their respective states. You don't expect any of them to go far.

Politics is always local

Well why count your chicken before they hatch

AlexBells:

Well why count your chicken before they hatch

It's a waste of time to be counting eggs for barren chicken

Just listen to yourself someone that loosing his state power strictures what kind of contribution such a person can render to his candidate? Politic is not about affection but actions with number of followers.

AlexBells:

Didn't you hear that he lost his state structure, how do you expect him to get a vote?, is sacrifices only about votes

Oh amaechi sacrificed but not betrayed...na only osinbajo betray....lol

Nebulax:


Amaechi, Saraki and co all had their issues with GEJ reason why they left the party, no that they really bring much to the table.

Yes. They had issues with GEJ. But to say they don't bring much to the table is a big fat lie. Saraki brought Kwara to APC.
Amaechi brought the might of rivers treasury plus being NGF governor at that time.

Tinubuadvocate:
Just listen to yourself someone that loosing his state power strictures what kind of contribution such a person can render to his candidate? Politic is not about affection but actions with number of followers.

Sacrifices that's the contributions

Nebulax:


It's a waste of time to be counting eggs for barren chicken

You were actually counting your eggs not mine, thank God you know the fate of your chicken

Ojuntana:

Yes. They had issues with GEJ. But to say they don't bring much to the table is a big fat lie. Saraki brought Kwara to APC.
Amaechi brought the might of rivers treasury plus being NGF governor at that time.

Pdp was already dead in Kwara state before 2015 election. If they were alive, they could have won in 2019

AlexBells:

You were actually counting your eggs not mine, thank God you know the fate of your chicken

And which of the eggs have I counted? Not that you have seen me campaigning or demarketing any candidates on this thread

Nebulax:


Pdp was already dead in Kwara state before 2015 election. If they were alive, they could have won in 2019

I guess you killed PDP in Kwara. Show us where you hid the body. Same PDP was alive in Kwara for twelve years until Saraki left yet PDP was dead in Kwara. Let me tell you. If this govs had not ported from PDP and some who remained, work against PDP from the inside, APC would not have won in 2015 and that's a fact.

Nebulax:


And which of the eggs have I counted? Not that you have seen me campaigning or demarketing any candidates on this thread

In essence I said you can't count my eggs, whatever eggs you have you declared it barren, why should you even have a candidate does baroness beget?

Ojuntana:

I guess you killed PDP in Kwara. Show us where you hid the body. Same PDP was alive in Kwara for twelve years until Saraki left yet PDP was dead in Kwara. Let me tell you. If this govs had not ported from PDP and some who remained, work against PDP from the inside, APC would not have won in 2015 and that's a fact.

But Saraki returned to this same Pdp before the 2019 election. He could have revived it but instead he lost his senatorial ambition.

AlexBells:

In essence I said you can't count my eggs, whatever eggs you have you declared it barren, why should you even have a candidate does baroness beget?

I don't need to count your eggs for you.

Even as how fertile my chicken is, would rather wait till it hatch before counting the eggs cos nothing is so assured

AlexBells:

Minister is an appointment by Mr. President, Party chairman is a general party position so APC had rewarded Oshiomole who is from Tinubu's camp, let APC reward Amechi, Minister position is an executive capacity of Mr. President, Many position was drafted to Tinubus camp yet nothing but just single ministerial position for Amechi, Fashola, Osinbajo, Oshiomole were all from Tinubus camp, Oshiomole didn't lose his party structure, he destroyed it by himself.

You arbitrarily rated Party Chairmanship above Ministerial appointment.

May I ask you, how the former is more valuable than being a Minister of a ministry that handled a multi million $ rail project? Besides, are both offices not about service to the people? If it's about service, how is being a Minister disadvantageous?

fyneguy:


You arbitrarily rated Party Chairmanship above Ministerial appointment.

May I ask you, how the former is more valuable than being a Minister of a ministry that handled a multi million $ rail project? Besides, are both offices not about service to the people? If it's about service, how is being a Minister disadvantageous?

I did not rate party Chairmanship over ministerial positions, it is not in my capacity to judge two prestigious political positions, all I'm saying is, Party position is more versatile when it comes to the fact that the president appoints ministers while party positions is a general party working, Mr. President can fire his ministers at will same cant be said of minister, APC as a party had compensated Oshiomole while Buhari as an individual had adopted Amechi

AlexBells:
When it comes to who made the biggest sacrifice to APC and Buhari's emergence, Chibuike Amechi is the man

I know Amechi deserve whatever consideration and when it comes to capacity to deliver, he is not also lacking. I hope we don't miss Amechi for APC.

At the end of the day what did we get? A planless government ladened with Chinese debt with no repayment strategy. Whatever was spent on the emergence of APC have been recouped many times over n beyond. Give true leadership all the railways constructed in Nigeria, it will be done with much less capital in such a way that the rail revenue will repay it's loan. But what now? 86% of Nigeria revenue which we know is mostly oil revenue is used to "service" railway loan. He should clap for himself & his boss