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D4donnn:
You don talk am master , you know say most sellers love using the "selling as it is " to avoid liability . But since he's stated a likely solution for the issue and I believe the buyer most definitely relied on that suggestiog to complete the purchase then oga jamesilver you go find a way to work out a resolution no be to they call buyer names and ignore his messages .

You said it well. Apt. I relied on his words because only him could have described the state of the laptop until I assess and I confirm it to be true or otherwise. Now his claims are not true, the responsibility should be on Jamesilvar but man is trying to run away from the fact.

Toma2:
Telling other clients that the battery doesn't hold still doesn't change the issue on ground..
The buyer said the battery is not the issue as you stated.

Jamesilvar

Gbolahan111:
Nowhere on the chat did the seller mention “sold as it is”. It is clear he knew the problem from the onset. Hence, the reason why he keeps defending himself.

Can I see the ad abimboloaded

Was it stated in the ad that item is sold as it is ?

Every sold as it is that I've bought or paid for has always been clearly stated on the ad .

@Jamesilver work with @abimloaded and close this case.
This is a clear issue to be going forth and back..
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Jamesilvar:
Goodevening everyone.

I will try to keep this response brief.
Abimloaded contacted me for an Asus Rog Zephyrus laptop I posted. First contact was in April 25, I sent him pics he said someone will contact me. I dunno if the person did or not cos many persons contacted me for the same deal but everyone backed out once I told them the Laptop’s condition. Fast forward to may 23, he contacted me again asking about the laptops I posted, I replied him. He asked about the availability of the Asus again I told him it’s available. He messaged me if the there are any issues with the laptop. At first I was thinking he was talking about one of the MSI laptops I posted as well. When he pointed out he is talking about the Asus I told him the battery doesn’t hold charge that I believe I told him before. He was disappointed and said I never mentioned it to him. I told him sorry I thought I had told him before because I have always told everyone who contacted me for the deal the reason they all backed out. Many of them will be viewing this topic. We discussed further I told him battery replacement should fix the issue. we also spoke on the phone and I told him that’s how the laptop landed and as I am not in lagos I haven’t pursued the Laptop’s issue and cos of that, I am selling as it is, though I believe battery replacement should fix the issue. He made payment and laptop was delivered to his contact. He received it and tested it everything was working as described.
He told me it was taken to CV, tested the first battery it wasn’t working, tested the second it also wasn’t working, they got a third one it will charge and stop.
When he couldn’t sort out the battery issue, he contacted me again that he wants to return the laptop because he thinks it’s not a battery issue. I reminded him that our deal was done on that monday and we didn’t have any agreement to such. He kept insisting he will return the laptop that the problem is not what I said it’s the problem. I quickly reminded him the problem as I stated is that LAPTOP BATTERY DOESN’T HOLD CHARGE. Whether laptop replacement fixed the issue or not is not my concern because he should have thought of the risk before making the purchase.

I then asked him assuming he had fixed the laptop and sold it well, would he have remitted some of his profits to me in view of the fact that I sold to him at a huge loss? Business is a pool of risks and you don’t chest more than you can bear.
He said I insulted him this morning, yes I told him he was stupid. That was because he messaged me and was threatening me about how he will deal with me and my business, that I will hear from him on NL, WhatsApp and other Social Media. Where does he know me from?
My business with him is done, I don’t really care what he does with the laptop, as far as I am concerned if he can’t fix it or he can eat it.

Boss
This is a straightforward case….. reach out to the buyer, and work out an amicable solution with him. You are at this mercy on this! If he wants 100% refund, you have to do it…. You clearly stated battery replacement should fix issue, and as it didn’t, that man is well on his right to get his money back. Reach out to him and get this sorted. Nowhere on the conversation with this did you stated “as is”.

omotolsy:
Abimloaded!

This is an experience.

Like i told you in the group, i was interested in same laptop. I know James so i asked him whats wrong because i know the price was quite low and he told me whats wrong with the Laptop(not good because if i had not asked it would have been my cup of tea).

Most times as a buyer do your due diligence, when buying a defective item ask questions.

The moment you proceed to purchase, the seller can exempt him/herself from further closures.

I could sell a laptop i feel its just about replacing battery and not know otherwise, i dont need to say selling as is. It already implies it's a sell as is sales.

Seller sells in assumption and buyer buys in assumption.

Next time ask a seller selling defective item for what the closure would be if otherwise.

I am sorry this happened to you, it's not a pleasant experience due to the huge money involved.

James my friend see if you can work with Abim.

Stay blessed.

Boss, I am surprised this came from you. This issue is as clear as day and night. Not an iota of fault is the buyer’s in my opinion. He did due diligence, and even carried seller along all the way. To apportion any blame on buyer in this case is not it at all! Let’s always look as the facts always!

omotolsy:
Abimloaded!

This is an experience.

Like i told you in the group, i was interested in same laptop. I know James so i asked him whats wrong because i know the price was quite low and he told me whats wrong with the Laptop(not good because if i had not asked it would have been my cup of tea).

Most times as a buyer do your due diligence, when buying a defective item ask questions.

The moment you proceed to purchase, the seller can exempt him/herself from further closures.

I could sell a laptop i feel its just about replacing battery and not know otherwise, i dont need to say selling as is. It already implies it's a sell as is sales.

Seller sells in assumption and buyer buys in assumption.

Next time ask a seller selling defective item for what the closure would be if otherwise.

I am sorry this happened to you, it's not a pleasant experience due to the huge money involved.

James my friend see if you can work with Abim.

Stay blessed.

I RESPECT YOU NO MORE. WHY BACK AN EVIL DOER

Na here we dey see people Wey get criminal mindset. Pretty sure I know two people I'd never recommend buying a laptop from ever forever in my life.

You just know they'd do the same to you when it's their turn. God forbid sha. We both will die with that money. I'm not a bigger person for money. 280k Wey eye dey red for this useless economy? God abeg.

Check their page you go see screenshots of testimony to good service. All has to be fake. Nothing you go tell me.

Jamesilvar:
Goodevening everyone.

I will try to keep this response brief.
Abimloaded contacted me for an Asus Rog Zephyrus laptop I posted. First contact was in April 25, I sent him pics he said someone will contact me. I dunno if the person did or not cos many persons contacted me for the same deal but everyone backed out once I told them the Laptop’s condition. Fast forward to may 23, he contacted me again asking about the laptops I posted, I replied him. He asked about the availability of the Asus again I told him it’s available. He messaged me if the there are any issues with the laptop. At first I was thinking he was talking about one of the MSI laptops I posted as well. When he pointed out he is talking about the Asus I told him the battery doesn’t hold charge that I believe I told him before. He was disappointed and said I never mentioned it to him. I told him sorry I thought I had told him before because I have always told everyone who contacted me for the deal the reason they all backed out. Many of them will be viewing this topic. We discussed further I told him battery replacement should fix the issue. we also spoke on the phone and I told him that’s how the laptop landed and as I am not in lagos I haven’t pursued the Laptop’s issue and cos of that, I am selling as it is, though I believe battery replacement should fix the issue. He made payment and laptop was delivered to his contact. He received it and tested it everything was working as described.
He told me it was taken to CV, tested the first battery it wasn’t working, tested the second it also wasn’t working, they got a third one it will charge and stop.
When he couldn’t sort out the battery issue, he contacted me again that he wants to return the laptop because he thinks it’s not a battery issue. I reminded him that our deal was done on that monday and we didn’t have any agreement to such. He kept insisting he will return the laptop that the problem is not what I said it’s the problem. I quickly reminded him the problem as I stated is that LAPTOP BATTERY DOESN’T HOLD CHARGE. Whether laptop replacement fixed the issue or not is not my concern because he should have thought of the risk before making the purchase.

I then asked him assuming he had fixed the laptop and sold it well, would he have remitted some of his profits to me in view of the fact that I sold to him at a huge loss? Business is a pool of risks and you don’t chest more than you can bear.
He said I insulted him this morning, yes I told him he was stupid. That was because he messaged me and was threatening me about how he will deal with me and my business, that I will hear from him on NL, WhatsApp and other Social Media. Where does he know me from?
My business with him is done, I don’t really care what he does with the laptop, as far as I am concerned if he can’t fix it or he can eat it.

@jamesilvar do the needful.
You should have been explicit in describing the laptop condition.

I feel the buyer has not done any wrong in patronizing your product.

You guys should come into a compromise. If it is for you to fix the problem, kindly do, to avoid destroying the reputation you have already built in the past.

Thank you

The caveat "selling as is" would have saved all these back and forth, this wouldn't have been a case if seller used it.
I remember contacting an OG here for a network locked phone.
I asked if he knew what network it was locked to, oga said "selling as is"
I remember asking another question but got same reply, I backed out from the deal 2sec.

As in this case, James pls reach out to your buyer and settle this matter, dont allow it drag longer than it is presently.
Na bad thing to have even allowed it get online in the first place.

for your own good, i will keep this swift as possible with Just a simple illustration of the case presented against you!.

you can't tell me you have a car for sell and it's just engine "BOLDLY" STATED that needs replacement. after to and fro finding money to get a good engine we know how costly it is, then later I found out it's just not the engine that has issues, the brakes, the axles and even the fuel injector not working....how do you think it be?

I was supposed to tackle only the engine, I just realised you sold me crap.
Jamesilvar that's the same case here, the laptop you sold to the buyer was crap, not just the "BATTERY" as you clearly stated in the screenshot below for 280k..come on manh.

Those are kind of things you sell to Ayon kwadem! not to potential buyers like the op.

.


look at the lame defenses your coming with, saying you've already sold it to him, hence he doesn't need to keep you updated shows that you knew that laptop is crap from the on go... and a very sound criminal mindset you got there.


Jamesilvar you better refund the op money and take back your scrap laptop and locate those Ayon kwadems. some are in cv they might need the parts.

no 2 ways about this.

Be like Omotolsy buy market for this one

Jamesilvar just do the needful, everyone here can't be wrong. Take the laptop back and refund the buyer completely.

D4donnn:
Can I see the ad abimboloaded

Was it stated in the ad that item is sold as it is ?

Every sold as it is that I've bought or paid for has always been clearly stated on the ad .

Here is the Ad he posted. The second on the list...

No where did he ever mentioned that selling as it is. He also never stated that it needed a battery replacement. He only said it after I asked, and I believed that was all.

It's all clear, I never knew Jamesilvar could try to deny all these and even in face of proofs.

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omotolsy:
Abimloaded!

This is an experience.

Like i told you in the group, i was interested in same laptop. I know James so i asked him whats wrong because i know the price was quite low and he told me whats wrong with the Laptop(not good because if i had not asked it would have been my cup of tea).

Most times as a buyer do your due diligence, when buying a defective item ask questions.

The moment you proceed to purchase, the seller can exempt him/herself from further closures.

I could sell a laptop i feel its just about replacing battery and not know otherwise, i dont need to say selling as is. It already implies it's a sell as is sales.

Seller sells in assumption and buyer buys in assumption.

Next time ask a seller selling defective item for what the closure would be if otherwise.

I am sorry this happened to you, it's not a pleasant experience due to the huge money involved.

James my friend see if you can work with Abim.

Stay blessed.

I always knew you to be an underground criminal.
henceforth I urge those dealing with you to do it with their two eyes open because when you finally strike the stress of coming here to narrate on dispute group will be on them.

but anyways I be here, and I just need one case file report against you..I know that day will soon come.
have dealed with several criminals like yourself no matter how hard they try to hide themselves, they always show their true colours.

EFCCgbenga:
for your own good, i will keep this swift as possible with Just a simple illustration of the case presented against you!.

you can't tell me you have a car for sell and it's just engine "BOLDLY" STATED that needs replacement. after to and fro finding money to get a good engine we know how costly it is, then later I found out it's just not the engine that has issues, the brakes, the axles and even the fuel injector not working....how do you think it be?

I was supposed to tackle only the engine, I just realised you sold me crap.
Jamesilvar that's the same case here, the laptop you sold to the buyer was crap, not just the "BATTERY" as you clearly stated in the screenshot below for 280k..come on manh.

Those are kind of things you sell to Ayon kwadem! not to potential buyers like the op.

.


look at the lame defenses your coming with, saying you've already sold it to him, hence he doesn't need to keep you updated shows that you knew that laptop is crap from the on go... and a very sound criminal mindset you got there.


Jamesilvar you better refund the op money and take back your scrap laptop and locate those Ayon kwadems.

no 2 ways about this.

Very straightforward thing. Clear and direct. Jamesilvar knows.

Teejay13:
@jamesilvar do the needful.
You should have been explicit in describing the laptop condition.

I feel the buyer has not done any wrong in patronizing your product.

You guys should come into a compromise. If it is for you to fix the problem, kindly do, to avoid destroying the reputation you have already built in the past.

Thank you

Jamesilvar has chosen to go tough and hurled insults on me instead.

On a straightforward matter. If I ever agreed to buy as it is, why then would I be carrying him along , let alone talk of returning the item. I knew I didn't agree to anything and I have my chats to back my claims up. So I wonder why he's been acting like I had an agreement with him to buy as it is.

omotolsy:
Abimloaded!

This is an experience.

Like i told you in the group, i was interested in same laptop. I know James so i asked him whats wrong because i know the price was quite low and he told me whats wrong with the Laptop(not good because if i had not asked it would have been my cup of tea).

Most times as a buyer do your due diligence, when buying a defective item ask questions.

The moment you proceed to purchase, the seller can exempt him/herself from further closures.

I could sell a laptop i feel its just about replacing battery and not know otherwise, i dont need to say selling as is. It already implies it's a sell as is sales.

Seller sells in assumption and buyer buys in assumption.

Next time ask a seller selling defective item for what the closure would be if otherwise.

I am sorry this happened to you, it's not a pleasant experience due to the huge money involved.

James my friend see if you can work with Abim.

Stay blessed.

Didn't expect this from you

Happy weekend guys....Just passing by

omotolsy:
Abimloaded!

This is an experience.

Like i told you in the group, i was interested in same laptop. I know James so i asked him whats wrong because i know the price was quite low and he told me whats wrong with the Laptop(not good because if i had not asked it would have been my cup of tea).

Most times as a buyer do your due diligence, when buying a defective item ask questions.

The moment you proceed to purchase, the seller can exempt him/herself from further closures.

I could sell a laptop i feel its just about replacing battery and not know otherwise, i dont need to say selling as is. It already implies it's a sell as is sales.

Seller sells in assumption and buyer buys in assumption.

Next time ask a seller selling defective item for what the closure would be if otherwise.

I am sorry this happened to you, it's not a pleasant experience due to the huge money involved.

James my friend see if you can work with Abim.

Stay blessed.

Your bias interpretation on this issue is so glaring. You can do better

Omo!

The day we all realize guys like omo-tolsy and krea-mie are the reason why we don’t get solution here the better for everyone.

Krea-mie on his part, ones he see the issues as anything to do with someone he knows or a close ally, na so he go keep mute, Omo-tolsy go come type rubbish claiming one rubb*sh sentimental judge even with glaring evidence

But if na person wey dem get issues with previously or them no too dey rapport like that na so you go see them fronting with big big grammar giving stu*pid verdicts.

Y’all should just know this thread as lived passed it’s glory days, na person know person them take dey run am here.

Omo-tolsy, you saw someone sold a faulty laptop, something he had first hand knowledge of not just battery being the issue, yet you still come type this rubbish, very disgraceful.

Something he has tried repairing but didn’t work, yet still sold it to unsuspecting customer, is not possible only battery would be the issue and he wouldn’t have tried replacing it, he shouldn’t use laptop is in Lagos and he’s in ph as an excuse, he has tried repairing it to no avail, he know the laptop is faulty and not just the battery was the issue, he should refund, not that none sense you type there.

Where’s kreamie’s verdicts, abi he dey mediate for background? Clowns.

Abimloaded:
I'm surprised that came from omotolsy. I told Jamesilvar that if I had used an escrow for this thing, it wouldn't have turned out this way, he as usual, switched to saying nothing will happen if I had used escrow for this same matter. He has the money with him and pushed a defective item to me and now he is trying to forcefully hold on down to it not minding whatever dent this could bring.

Everything is clear, the issue was never battery replacement, Jamesilvar.
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Surprised? Most of us are not……

Rexraph18:
The caveat "selling as is" would have saved all these back and forth, this wouldn't have been a case if seller used it.
I remember contacting an OG here for a network locked phone.
I asked if he knew what network it was locked to, oga said "selling as is"
I remember asking another question but got same reply, I backed out from the deal 2sec.

As in this case, James pls reach out to your buyer and settle this matter, dont allow it drag longer than it is presently.
Na bad thing to have even allowed it get online in the first place.

I'm the OG. Even if I'm not, I do this...

If I have an asterisk on a device, I clearly state the problem. If you ask how much to fix this, unlock this, if it can be fixed; I only give two answers: Selling AS IS or No idea.
I'm just a seller, not a fixer. You don't convince your client on an asterisk

But the moment you say otherwise and try your best to convince him, you're taking a blame if anything happens.

Jamesilvar, the best is to refund your client, then put up a disclaimer on your ad.

Salud...

YeyeBoyfriend:
The day we all realize guys like omo-tolsy and krea-mie are the reason why we don’t get solution here the better for everyone.

Krea-mie on his part, ones he see the issues as anything to do with someone he knows or a close ally, na so he go keep mute, Omo-tolsy go come type rubbish claiming one rubb*sh sentimental judge even with glaring evidence

But if na person wey dem get issues with previously or them no too dey rapport like that na so you go see them fronting with big big grammar giving stu*pid verdicts.

Y’all should just know this thread as lived passed it’s glory days, na person know person them take dey run am here.

Omo-tolsy, you saw someone sold a faulty laptop, something he had first hand knowledge of not just battery was the issue, yet you still come type this rubbish, very disgraceful.

Something he has tried repairing but didn’t work, yet still sold it to unsuspecting customer, is not possible only battery would be the issue and he wouldn’t have tried replacing it, he shouldn’t use laptop is in Lagos and he’s in ph as an excuse, he has tried repairing it to no avail, he know the laptop is faulty and not just the battery was the issue, he should refund, not that none sense you type there.

Where’s kreamie’s verdicts, abi he dey mediate for background? Clowns.

Ahan why Kreamie dey catch bullets for this matter nah? Hehehehe

YeyeBoyfriend:
The day we all realize guys like omo-tolsy and krea-mie are the reason why we don’t get solution here the better for everyone.

Krea-mie on his part, ones he see the issues as anything to do with someone he knows or a close ally, na so he go keep mute, Omo-tolsy go come type rubbish claiming one rubb*sh sentimental judge even with glaring evidence

But if na person wey dem get issues with previously or them no too dey rapport like that na so you go see them fronting with big big grammar giving stu*pid verdicts.

Y’all should just know this thread as lived passed it’s glory days, na person know person them take dey run am here.

Omo-tolsy, you saw someone sold a faulty laptop, something he had first hand knowledge of not just battery was the issue, yet you still come type this rubbish, very disgraceful.

Something he has tried repairing but didn’t work, yet still sold it to unsuspecting customer, is not possible only battery would be the issue and he wouldn’t have tried replacing it, he shouldn’t use laptop is in Lagos and he’s in ph as an excuse, he has tried repairing it to no avail, he know the laptop is faulty and not just the battery was the issue, he should refund, not that none sense you type there.

Where’s kreamie’s verdicts, abi he dey mediate for background? Clowns.

Comrade mi,fire de go

Anopheles:
I'm the OG. Even if I'm not, I do this...

If I have an asterisk on a device, I clearly state the problem. If you ask how much to fix this, unlock this, if it can be fixed; I only give two answers: Selling AS IS or No idea.
I'm just a seller, not a fixer. You don't convince your client on an asterisk

But the moment you say otherwise and try your best to convince him, you're taking a blame if anything happens.

Jamesilvar, the best is to refund your client, then put up a disclaimer on your ad.

Salud...

Just as it should be, Anopheles.
Transparency is vital. For many sellers I know around here, they clearly state the issue with the laptop when posting an ad. It was not the case with Jamesilvar, he said he has been telling everyone, he didn't tell me till I asked.
I'm not everyone. He knows what's up, he knows the right thing to do. He is seeing everything here and people setting him straight. His reasons for being defiant and unyielding is only going to make matter worse and go to extents that it shouldn't get to.

I've tried discussing and reaching a meaningful resolution with him via WhatsApp and phone calls but he avoided everything. Jamesilvar still has the chance to redeem his name and image and not let little thing dent his reputation.

Otherwise, well...

omotolsy:
Abimloaded!

This is an experience.

Like i told you in the group, i was interested in same laptop. I know James so i asked him whats wrong because i know the price was quite low and he told me whats wrong with the Laptop(not good because if i had not asked it would have been my cup of tea).

Most times as a buyer do your due diligence, when buying a defective item ask questions.

The moment you proceed to purchase, the seller can exempt him/herself from further closures.

I could sell a laptop i feel its just about replacing battery and not know otherwise, i dont need to say selling as is. It already implies it's a sell as is sales.

Seller sells in assumption and buyer buys in assumption.

Next time ask a seller selling defective item for what the closure would be if otherwise.

I am sorry this happened to you, it's not a pleasant experience due to the huge money involved.

James my friend see if you can work with Abim.

Stay blessed.

person go just Open mouth waaaaahhh

Do I know you sir?


I suggest you don’t run your mouth regarding things you don’t know. The majority have spoken. Do I have to speak for this to be resolved? If you have issues with me, come at me directly, don’t go through the corners. To think I don’t have a life besides moderating this thread is shocking.

FYI, find attached the screenshot of when I reached out to him minute I saw this dispute telling him to tell his side of the of the story before the matter gets out of hand. He ignored me and posted on the thread instead. Till now, he’s not responded to me and I decided not to say a in response but here you are throwing words around; displaying your foolery to the whole world.

YeyeBoyfriend:
The day we all realize guys like omo-tolsy and krea-mie are the reason why we don’t get solution here the better for everyone.

Krea-mie on his part, ones he see the issues as anything to do with someone he knows or a close ally, na so he go keep mute, Omo-tolsy go come type rubbish claiming one rubb*sh sentimental judge even with glaring evidence

But if na person wey dem get issues with previously or them no too dey rapport like that na so you go see them fronting with big big grammar giving stu*pid verdicts.

Y’all should just know this thread as lived passed it’s glory days, na person know person them take dey run am here.

Omo-tolsy, you saw someone sold a faulty laptop, something he had first hand knowledge of not just battery being the issue, yet you still come type this rubbish, very disgraceful.

Something he has tried repairing but didn’t work, yet still sold it to unsuspecting customer, is not possible only battery would be the issue and he wouldn’t have tried replacing it, he shouldn’t use laptop is in Lagos and he’s in ph as an excuse, he has tried repairing it to no avail, he know the laptop is faulty and not just the battery was the issue, he should refund, not that none sense you type there.

Where’s kreamie’s verdicts, abi he dey mediate for background? Clowns.

Brother, I shock o. I don’t even know Jamesilvar from Adam. He and I have never transacted neither do we have any sort of rapport. Na wa o. Nigerians sha

Jung:
Ahan why Kreamie dey catch bullets for this matter nah? Hehehehe

Kreamie:
Brother, I shock o. I don’t even know Jamesilvar from Adam. He and I have never transacted neither do we have any sort of rapport. Na wa o. Nigerians sha

Omo niggas mean you shege lol.