I slept off thinking the game was over.
Pim I won't talk until this series ends....
Make them dey jonse..

Roland17:
Lord help me, I don die for where I dey.

Please, respond to your emails.

donlittle25:
This man green has 4 points.

Las las e go cancel dat yeye podcast.
On to game 2 biko

2 pages of blocked posts. Wetin happen

A40 I know sey u go get hand inside


I kid bro, i kid

birdman:
2 pages of blocked posts. Wetin happen

A40 I know sey u go get hand inside


I kid bro, i kid

Lol my days of violence are over

Small little factoid I stumbled upon. The Warriors are 1-8 their last 9 Finals games without Kevin Durant

0-6 in home games

I saw the 4th quarter again and I have to say. Jaylen Brown mehn. Jayson Tatum gets all the love most times but Jaylen Brown. There's a Sadio Mane-Mo Salah dynamic going on there. Where the other guy is just as good but for some reason never quite gets the accolades and adulation. We talk about Jayson Tatum as a superstar and a guy like Jaylen barely gets All star mention.

In that game again one of those one man 8-0 runs I always talk about that happen inside 1:20secs that turn potential blowouts to comebacks

A40:
Small little factoid I stumbled upon. The Warriors are 1-8 their last 9 Finals games without Kevin Durant

0-6 in home games

I saw the 4th quarter again and I have to say. Jaylen Brown mehn. Jayson Tatum gets all the love most times but Jaylen Brown. There's a Sadio Mane-Mo Salah dynamic going on there. Where the other guy is just as good but for some reason never quite gets the accolades and adulation. We talk about Jayson Tatum as a superstar and a guy like Jaylen barely gets All star mention.

In that game again one of those one man 8-0 runs I always talk about that happen inside 1:20secs that turn potential blowouts to comebacks

Durant is that you lol

Jaylen and Tatum have matured. They used to fall in love with that jumpshot and shoot themselves out of games. They are more patient now, they read the game and pace themselves. Tatum had a horrible shooting game, but he racked up assists. Jaylen picked his shots. Their defense was decent, but it can get better - they kept Green and Looney from getting easy buckets, but some of those Curry 3s in Q1 could have been avoided.

Looking forward to game 2! Maybe they will free bjelica, sharp shooter of life!

A40:

Same way Raptors won 4-2. For each Warriors injury I would show you more significant ones on the other team.

The Warriors had no advantage over the Raptors. Klay being there only meant at best they won Game 6 but the game was still in the balance anyway. Klay played 32 mins in that game 6. He was present for 3 losses. Not 2

You are intentionally missing the point. Yes GSW lost 4-2 nobody is arguing that. We are telling you that GSW did not lose 4 games with Klay playing. The games Klay played GSW won 2 and lost 2 against Toronto. Klay missed game 3 and when he was playing game 6 GSW had not lost. So you don't have data to show that with Klay playing with Steph etc, GSW would have lost that series. Not saying whether it is true or not, you just don't have data for it.

A40:
Yeah you would have missed Bogut's 3 points and 3 rebounds in that series

The Rockets were the 8th seed ffs have some shame. Vs Portland KD played 2 of the 4 games. I don't know why you're bragging about beating inferior teams.

KD-Klay and Draymond can't beat Lamarcus Aldridge, Rudy Gay and Ginobili who was like 42??

Stop this without Klay nonsense vs the Raptors. He played in 5 of a possible 6 games.

Cavs beat up inferior teams when Love was hurt but when facing a team of equal quality they were shorthanded while the Warriors were complete. Those are the facts on ground for the 15 season

What does what happened the previous season have to do with the beatdown San Antonio were serving in the Oracle? The Warriors were down by 27 before Zaza took Kawhi out. You want to use the Raptors with Klay missing 1 quarter as an excuse but I can't use Kawhi missing the series?

Rockets were up 3-2 and lost their second or arguably their best player. Can't talk about Klay when CP3 lost 2 full games

No team has caught more breaks than the Warriors against evenly matched competition

I can nitpick the same way but the larger point will be missed.

Case in point is the 2018-19 WC SFs against the Rockets with their CP3 and everybody in tact when it is 2-2. This is a replay of 2017-18 only this time KD gets hurt. Warriors then go on to beat Rockets 4-2. That is the best example of a Klay, Steph and Draymond led team still winning a team everyone claimed would have beat them without KD.

A40:
Una go beg Kevin Durant again las las.

Omo. This Celtics na squad mehn. Any other team would have packed it in after that 3rd quarter. The way they methodically cut into the lead those first 2 minutes of the 4th before going into that run

We saw him against the same Celtics. We don't miss him.

I watched this same team game 1 against the Nets and concluded they have what it takes to win it all.

But I don't get down over one loss in the same way I won't get high over one win. Steve Kerr will tell you he prefers Tatum to score 40 pts than for Horford, Smart and White to hit 15/23 3s or score 70 points.

The series reminds me of GSW vs OKC in 2016. I hope it favors GSW still.

birdman:


Durant is that you lol

Jaylen and Tatum have matured. They used to fall in love with that jumpshot and shoot themselves out of games. They are more patient now, they read the game and pace themselves. Tatum had a horrible shooting game, but he racked up assists. Jaylen picked his shots. Their defense was decent, but it can get better - they kept Green and Looney from getting easy buckets, but some of those Curry 3s in Q1 could have been avoided.

Looking forward to game 2! Maybe they will free bjelica, sharp shooter of life!

Hahaha. The thing just dey rub me dey wrong way ni. And I like the Warriors. Ordinarily I would never say any negative comments about them. However seeing Warriors and Curry fans joining in the KD slander is just out of pocket for me.

This is a man that came to join your team and helped you win two Championships essentially sacrificing any claim to a top 10 conversation while he did, this man put his longevity on the line rushing from a serious injury to help the Warriors win a 3peat cos they knew good and well they couldn't win without him. Took insults from haters and even teammates and this is the thanks he gets? O wrong nauu

Even if Bronsexuals dey slander KD Steph and Warriors fan no suppose join inside. They better beat Boston sha. Cos if they don't this will be their 3rd straight Finals loss.
And the ones that are trying to be clever by half talmbout KD got swept and well they got to the Finals. Duhhh. KD couldn't do it that's why he came. You're the ones that swear you could do it without KD. So do it

Why Draymond Green is taking 12 shots in an NBA Finals game in year 2022 is beyond me

Jordan Poole also looked quite shook. As it is on any night he's not giving you 15-25 points he's pretty much a liability on the floor as he can't guard nobody

Android22:
You are intentionally missing the point. Yes GSW lost 4-2 nobody is arguing that. We are telling you that GSW did not lose 4 games with Klay playing. The games Klay played GSW won 2 and lost 2 against Toronto. Klay missed game 3 and when he was playing game 6 GSW had not lost. So you don't have data to show that with Klay playing with Steph etc, GSW would have lost that series. Not saying whether it is true or not, you just don't have data for it.

They lost 3 games with Klay playing not 2. He played 32 minutes of Game 6. Had they won you would not discard that data. I don't know why you're discarding it cos they lost.

The final outcome of the game is immaterial. He played 32 minutes. It would be no different if he was in foul trouble and had his minutes limited would you say he didn't play? Game 6 Bulls vs Jazz. Scottie Pippen played 25 minutes. Would you say he didn't play?

There is no law that says a player must play all 48 minutes before we argue whether they played or not

Klay Thompson was present in 3 losses. Same way if the Warriors won we would also say Klay Thompson was present in 3 wins

Android22:
I can nitpick the same way but the larger point will be missed.

Case in point is the 2018-19 WC SFs against the Rockets with their CP3 and everybody in tact when it is 2-2. This is a replay of 2017-18 only this time KD gets hurt. Warriors then go on to beat Rockets 4-2. That is the best example of a Klay, Steph and Draymond led team still winning a team everyone claimed would have beat them without KD.

You guys are so funny. Like the 18/19 Rockets are even similar to the 17/18 iteration that had the best record in the league vs a 4th seed

The Warriors were down 3-2 to the 17/18 team before CP3 got hurt end of Game 5. I have some snake oil to sell you if you believe that is the same team at the same level as they were the previous year

A40:
Hahaha. The thing just dey rub me dey wrong way ni. And I like the Warriors. Ordinarily I would never say any negative comments about them. However seeing Warriors and Curry fans joining in the KD slander is just out of pocket for me.

This is a man that came to join your team and helped you win two Championships essentially sacrificing any claim to a top 10 conversation while he did, this man put his longevity on the line rushing from a serious injury to help the Warriors win a 3peat cos they knew good and well they couldn't win without him. Took insults from haters and even teammates and this is the thanks he gets? O wrong nauu

Even if Bronsexuals dey slander KD Steph and Warriors fan no suppose join inside. They better beat Boston sha. Cos if they don't this will be their 3rd straight Finals loss.
And the ones that are trying to be clever by half talmbout KD got swept and well they got to the Finals. Duhhh. KD couldn't do it that's why he came. You're the ones that swear you could do it without KD. So do it

Why Draymond Green is taking 12 shots in an NBA Finals game in year 2022 is beyond me

Jordan Poole also looked quite shook. As it is on any night he's not giving you 15-25 points he's pretty much a liability on the floor as he can't guard nobody

Fans forget, thats the name of the game. They brought in Durant to counter Lebron's united nations team, and it worked. But like they told Durant then, it wont help your legacy long term. He said he didnt mind, he just wanted the rings. It is what it is

Android22:
We saw him against the same Celtics. We don't miss him.

I watched this same team game 1 against the Nets and concluded they have what it takes to win it all.

But I don't get down over one loss in the same way I won't get high over one win. Steve Kerr will tell you he prefers Tatum to score 40 pts than for Horford, Smart and White to hit 15/23 3s or score 70 points.

The series reminds me of GSW vs OKC in 2016. I hope it favors GSW still.

I'm just hoping that should the Warriors lose there would be no excuses. I have no dog in this fight but the KD slander is getting out of control

We already know KD's limitations. He had to join the Warriors to win. The Warriors however now have to beat a fully healthy team in the Finals without KD. This is their 3rd attempt

We await.

Android22:
We saw him against the same Celtics. We don't miss him.

I watched this same team game 1 against the Nets and concluded they have what it takes to win it all.

But I don't get down over one loss in the same way I won't get high over one win. Steve Kerr will tell you he prefers Tatum to score 40 pts than for Horford, Smart and White to hit 15/23 3s or score 70 points.

The series reminds me of GSW vs OKC in 2016. I hope it favors GSW still.

If you were talking about the early season celtics, yes, you prefer Tatum to go off and keep the rest of the team cold. But these guys have gelled, and they are comfortable with Tatum getting his while they play other roles. Notice Jaylen's 4Q takeover. Previously, he and Smart would have been trying to force the issue in Q2, Q3.

Warriors will have to get really technical to win this series. As in matchups, substitutions, foul trouble. Curry was hot for 1Q, but they still lost. Curry cant be hot then 4 games in a row. The one thing Warriors have over Celtics is ball movement. Celtics really didnt solve that in game 1.

birdman:


Fans forget, thats the name of the game. They brought in Durant to counter Lebron's united nations team, and it worked. But like they told Durant then, it wont help your legacy long term. He said he didnt mind, he just wanted the rings. It is what it is

Durant is the architect of his problem in the end. He's stood ten toes in the sand for the wrong people or and at the wrong times.

He's in a way a victim of his own hubris. Falsely believing that just skills and ability to score is the only thing he's going to need to win

A40:
They lost 3 games with Klay playing not 2. He played 32 minutes of Game 6. Had they won you would not discard that data. I don't know why you're discarding it cos they lost.

The final outcome of the game is immaterial. He played 32 minutes. It would be no different if he was in foul trouble and had his minutes limited would you say he didn't play? Game 6 Bulls vs Jazz. Scottie Pippen played 25 minutes. Would you say he didn't play?

There is no law that says a player must play all 48 minutes before we argue whether they played or not

Klay Thompson was present in 3 losses. Same way if the Warriors won we would also say Klay Thompson was present in 3 wins

I wish you can see you are making my argument for me.

If you claim Klay Thompson was there for that game 6 loss then you cannot in the same breath claim injury when a player is absent from his team's loss against GSW. That is why you can either be categorical with your argument or contextual you cannot be both at the same time.

Kawhi was there when his team led GSW by 22 points or so and then lost by 20+ without KD in that same season. Kyrie and Love played in the regular season of 2014 and GSW beat them.

If you change the context to regular season vs playoffs, I can as well show you another situation where your argument will fail. For e.g, Klay hit the winning shot against Memphis this season, and Raptors used 2 FTs to end that 114 v 110 game 6 after Steph and Iggy missed 3 PT attempts back to back before fouling the rebounder. What is to say Klay who was hot in that game does not hit it, GSW lead by 1 and Raptors lose the game? They had just lost game 5 the same way.

If you cannot say, then you cannot be categorical about Klay playing game 6 when the team lost. After all, his team was up with 1 Q to go in that same game and he was not available to impact the game when it was lost which is your argument for Kawhi, Kyrie etc. which is not the same technically if he had fouled out.

A40:
You guys are so funny. Like the 18/19 Rockets are even similar to the 17/18 iteration that had the best record in the league vs a 4th seed

The Warriors were down 3-2 to the 17/18 team before CP3 got hurt end of Game 5. I have some snake oil to sell you if you believe that is the same team at the same level as they were the previous year

Your argument style is vacillating between 2 poles- you contextualize and then categorize at the same time.

17/18 Rockets with essentially the same core is not the same as the Rockets of 18/19 because of their regular season record (context) yet you are sure that because they led 3-2 with CP3 injured, it helped the Warriors win 4-3 (category).

My response to that is, was CP3 not playing when his team lost 2 games? I hope you see it. He could have as well lost 2 games again, no?

If you say no, what proof do you have? The only other perfect situation was next season and he lost again this time without KD but you say we should ignore it because of their regular season record. lol

birdman:


If you were talking about the early season celtics, yes, you prefer Tatum to go off and keep the rest of the team cold. But these guys have gelled, and they are comfortable with Tatum getting his while they play other roles. Notice Jaylen's 4Q takeover. Previously, he and Smart would have been trying to force the issue in Q2, Q3.

Warriors will have to get really technical to win this series. As in matchups, substitutions, foul trouble. Curry was hot for 1Q, but they still lost. Curry cant be hot then 4 games in a row. The one thing Warriors have over Celtics is ball movement. Celtics really didnt solve that in game 1.

My point was that Tatum getting 40 takes the ball away from Horford, White and Smart who did the major damage in the 4th Q.

Yes, Curry was hot but then Draymond, Poole and Klay had mid to bad games and even if Tatum shot the ball poorly, Horford, Smart and White outshot their average. If Tatum goes back to his mean (say he scores 30) and the other role players do same (they don't shoot 15/23 3s), they lose that game. It is a game of fine margins.

You don't go from a 38-24 Q to a 40-16 Q based on technicalities alone. Streaky shooting from the team that won can also be factored to explain such a huge swing.

Skrrrrrrr:


This would have been arguable were they not facts. Curry got doubles 20x more than Durant.
Durant didn't do anything remarkably different, his job was just wayyyy easier because another dude was distracting the entire defense. He could have been 4x finals MVP if he had stayed put. His playing style didn't work with Westbrook because that one was focused on securing his own points.
Any high volume scorer would have won FMVP with curry because playing with curry just makes it easier to score. Put Anthony Davis in that warriors team and he'd be finals MVP too.
Abi no be highest scorer on the winning Team be finals MVP?

Did I hear someone mention Anthony Davis?

Android22:
I wish you can see you are making my argument for me.

If you claim Klay Thompson was there for that game 6 loss then you cannot in the same breath claim injury when a player is absent from his team's loss against GSW. That is why you can either be categorical with your argument or contextual you cannot be both at the same time.

Kawhi was there when his team led GSW by 22 points or so and then lost by 20+ without KD in that same season. Kyrie and Love played in the regular season of 2014 and GSW beat them.

If you change the context to regular season vs playoffs, I can as well show you another situation where your argument will fail. For e.g, Klay hit the winning shot against Memphis this season, and Raptors used 2 FTs to end that 114 v 110 game 6 after Steph and Iggy missed 3 PT attempts back to back before fouling the rebounder. What is to say Klay who was hot in that game does not hit it, GSW lead by 1 and Raptors lose the game? They had just lost game 5 the same way.

If you cannot say, then you cannot be categorical about Klay playing game 6 when the team lost. After all, his team was up with 1 Q to go in that same game and he was not available to impact the game when it was lost which is your argument for Kawhi, Kyrie etc. which is not the same technically if he had fouled out.

You're trying to pretend like Klay Thompson played 4 games from a possible 6. This is cap

Klay Thompson played Game 6 and missed a quarter. There's no guarantee he makes the shot in back to back games. By your logic Steph Curry who scored 21 points after the first quarter on Thursday should have finished with 60pts. MJ once scored 35pts in a half and made 6 3pters in the Finals. He finished with 39 pts!

I didn't read the majority of your long story but the crux of the argument is him getting hurt does not stop the Warriors from winning the same way him playing the 4th quarter doesn't stop the Warriors from losing. We just saw Jimmy Butler miss a whole half and the Heat still beat Boston.

Attempting to erase the 32 whole minutes Klay Thompson played is dubious.

Android22:
Your argument style is vacillating between 2 poles- you contextualize and then categorize at the same time.

17/18 Rockets with essentially the same core is not the same as the Rockets of 18/19 because of their regular season record (context) yet you are sure that because they led 3-2 with CP3 injured, it helped the Warriors win 4-3 (category).

My response to that is, was CP3 not playing when his team lost 2 games? I hope you see it. He could have as well lost 2 games again, no?

If you say no, what proof do you have? The only other perfect situation was next season and he lost again this time without KD but you say we should ignore it because of their regular season record. lol

Fear God oh. And stop twisting the point of the argument. Even if you're adamant that a team that won 12 fewer games than the previous season didn't regress at least have the honesty to admit that the Rockets were shorthanded when the Warriors faced them.

He could have as well lost two games but the sample size showed that the Rockets won 60% of the games CP3 played. The Warriors were yet to win back to back games to that point with CP3 on the floor. You have no evidence that they could have

Anyway you're free to believe what you want to believe. If the Warriors lose to Boston this will be their 3rd straight failure at beating a complete team without Kevin Durant. Simple and short

The Danny Ainge rebuild has started. Snyder out

8 points ke

For all the talk about the warriors scoring option, only curry came to the finals.
Klay and Poole still chilling in Dallas.

They are a great team and this is the response I expected from them. We got the split and now head to TD Garden.

On to game 3

#Greenrunsdeep
#Celticpride

Skrrrrrrr:
For all the talk about the warriors scoring option, only curry came to the finals.
Klay and Poole still chilling in Dallas.

And for all the talk about Curry not having many clutch moments, games like this are the reasons for it. The man basically sat out the rest of the 4th Q.

As for Klay, he has that 1 or 2 games out of 6 in him. Hopefully he shows up in at least one of TD Garden games so we can take an away game (at the very least) to continue our streak of always winning a game away from home.

A40:
You're trying to pretend like Klay Thompson played 4 games from a possible 6. This is cap

Klay Thompson played Game 6 and missed a quarter. There's no guarantee he makes the shot in back to back games. By your logic Steph Curry who scored 21 points after the first quarter on Thursday should have finished with 60pts. MJ once scored 35pts in a half and made 6 3pters in the Finals. He finished with 39 pts!

I didn't read the majority of your long story but the crux of the argument is him getting hurt does not stop the Warriors from winning the same way him playing the 4th quarter doesn't stop the Warriors from losing. We just saw Jimmy Butler miss a whole half and the Heat still beat Boston.

Attempting to erase the 32 whole minutes Klay Thompson played is dubious.

No, the long story was that while I said we don't know what that game 6 outcome is in his availability (hence, why I don't count it as a W or L), you insist that you do all because you have the confession you want (GSW can't win without KD) and now want to see how you can torture the data to do the confessing for you.

A40:

Fear God oh. And stop twisting the point of the argument. Even if you're adamant that a team that won 12 fewer games than the previous season didn't regress at least have the honesty to admit that the Rockets were shorthanded when the Warriors faced them.

He could have as well lost two games but the sample size showed that the Rockets won 60% of the games CP3 played. The Warriors were yet to win back to back games to that point with CP3 on the floor. You have no evidence that they could have

Anyway you're free to believe what you want to believe. If the Warriors lose to Boston this will be their 3rd straight failure at beating a complete team without Kevin Durant. Simple and short

I told you that I am rebutting your argument primarily on your inconsistency. If you would allow contexts all the time, then yes, I agree with you - they were underhanded.

But if you choose context while it is convenient for you and then ditch it right after when it is not, I have to disagree with your answer. For e.g If you want to insist on GSWs lack of FINALS winningness without KD, mention the other variables that form part of the equation. C'est fini.

Android22:
And for all the talk about Curry not having many clutch moments, games like this are the reasons for it. The man basically sat out the rest of the 4th Q.

As for Klay, he has that 1 or 2 games out of 6 in him. Hopefully he shows up in at least one of TD Garden games so we can take an away game (at the very least) to continue our streak of always winning a game away from home.

Warriors could have been up by 2 if other people showed up. You know theré is a problem if the warriors second best player is Andrew Wiggins. Klay was just bricking wide open shots like madness, as for Poole, maybe he is having stage fright, being in the finals for the first time. He woke up towards the end of the 3rd quarter after Steph already set the tone. I hope he carries it into the next game.

Skrrrrrrr:


Warriors could have been up by 2 if other people showed up. You know theré is a problem if the warriors second best player is Andrew Wiggins. Klay was just bricking wide open shots like madness, as for Poole, maybe he is having stage fright, being in the finals for the first time. He woke up towards the end of the 3rd quarter after Steph already set the tone. I hope he carries it into the next game.

If I speak on this klay issue, some parties will come for my head.

If the warriors miss out on this title. I think it's fair for steph to question why the warriors were stacking rookies when they are in win now mood.
A varying combo of kuminga, moody, Wiseman, poole or Wiggins could have landed a star player easily even if you want to keep the core 3 intact.
And you don't have to trade all of them, just a couple of them.
The hard part of course is trading for the right player but the warriors didn't even test the market.