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Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by Papparassi: 10:30am On Jun 10, 2022
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Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by Spherical17: 10:30am On Jun 10, 2022
PeterObi4LP:
The forth coming election will shock people. The revolution that will hit Nigerians to come out enmass to Peter Obi will make even APC and PDP surprise. Obi is not sharing money or using money to campaign yet he's making wave. Once he pick his running mate from the North, we'll hit the ground running.
can you bet your money Obi won't come third in the general election?

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Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by Amumaigwe: 10:30am On Jun 10, 2022
seunmsg:
I agree completely with the OP. This choice is now before us especially southerners. We either endure power returns to the south through Tinubu or it remains in the north with Atiku.

Stop mentioning southerners. Call it what it is. It is only the SW that has a stake in the coming APC presidential election and not the South.

This afterthought and self-serving lump of the whole south and one entity after SW has refused to cooperate with other southerners to balance opportunities will NEVER fly.

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Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by Lanre1st(m): 10:30am On Jun 10, 2022
Shedrack777:
the only people supporting muslim-muslim leadership are the useless muslims who have evil intents in mind

You're the most senseless evil in human skin
Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by Idowuay123: 10:30am On Jun 10, 2022
That is an hypocritical statement. There are many Christians in the North that can be paired with Tinubu.

You Guys would never allow a Christians to handover to another Christian not to talk of Christian / Christian ticket. I will vote Peter Obi.

PassingShot:


I don't know any northern Christian who can sincerely get him enough votes in the north, especially the core north. Politics is about playing your best card to win.

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Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by mach7(m): 10:30am On Jun 10, 2022
I like your brutal analysis as it shows an astute political mindset. Political parties are in the business of winning elections and your summation regarding a Muslim Muslim ticket will certainly deliver victory. I'm just speaking from the sentimental side considering how polarized we are along religious lines and also a fear of the bashing from the SE which will be too much as they are quite loud in this regard (although irrespective of who he chooses, they won't vote for him). Let's see how Tinubu navigates this. Nice one!
TheFacelessMan:


Sorry to be so blunt.

1. Northern Christians are despised in their region and have very little influence. In fact, Dogara has control of just 3 LGAs in Bauchi State - as strong as he's touted. Tinubu will definitely lose if he tries it. If you notice, El Rufai said he would do Muslim / Muslim ticket in Kaduna, and he won. Didnt you also notice that Tinubu didn't waste time during campaign with delegates in certain regions?

2. Now, one secret that Southern people don't know, Atiku is really hated in the North. He has a reputation of a snake. He's widely abused as a homo and not a true Muslim. He's said to have been cursed to never be President by a popular Islamic Cleric. To be honest, I still don't understand the hate.

3. Tinubu will pick someone very strong from the North and he will be a Muslim. Northerners even see it as a revenge because OBJ foisted an unhealthy Yaradua that didn't really rule actively. They feel BAT might die in power or the VP does most of the heavy lifting.

By the time Tinubu calls meetings of traditional religious leaders and the big Pastors of Yorubaland e.g. Adeboye, Kumuyi and Oyedepo.... you will be shocked how the potential 60% SW votes turns to 80 or even 90! Oh I even forgot his wife is a Pastor in RCCG and not in the Senate (free to campaign). Remi will go to mega churches - Yorubas undisputably have the biggest.... and preach every Sunday.

Bloc votes from SW and a North 50/50 or even 40% from North will win it for BAT.

Politicians do their calculations well... no matter Atiku's vice, he's very unlikely to win. That's just the reality.

Tinubu is a strong politician but I doubt anyone was sure he would soundly thrash President + Vice President + Senate President + Party Chairman. Did we really expect such a wide margin?

Politicians are like sharks, they easily smell blood in the water I.e. they quickly jump to the side of a potential winner. The APC primaries was an eye-opener for many. SS will smartly fall in line, BAT might not win there but he will do better than projected. SE will be stubborn as usual and unfortunately shout marginalization later. Unfair it might seem but true.

The main election campaigns might be physically tasking for him, but he will very likely trounce Atiku. The other candidates don't matter at all; not worth mentioning.

Tinubu can only lose if he chooses Ganduje (bad reputation) or a Northern Christian. Or Yoruba/Yoruba ticket .... grin grin


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Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by PassingShot(m): 10:31am On Jun 10, 2022
TheFacelessMan:


Sorry to be so blunt.

1. Northern Christians are despised in their region and have very little influence. In fact, Dogara has control of just 3 LGAs in Bauchi State - as strong as he's touted. Tinubu will definitely lose if he tries it. If you notice, El Rufai said he would do Muslim / Muslim ticket in Kaduna, and he won. Didnt you also notice that Tinubu didn't waste time during campaign with delegates in certain regions?

2. Now, one secret that Southern people don't know, Atiku is really hated in the North. He has a reputation of a snake. He's widely abused as a homo and not a true Muslim. He's said to have been cursed to never be President by a popular Islamic Cleric. To be honest, I still don't understand the hate.

3. Tinubu will pick someone very strong from the North and he will be a Muslim. Northerners even see it as a revenge because OBJ foisted an unhealthy Yaradua that didn't really rule actively. They feel BAT might die in power or the VP does most of the heavy lifting.

By the time Tinubu calls meetings of traditional religious leaders and the big Pastors of Yorubaland e.g. Adeboye, Kumuyi and Oyedepo.... you will be shocked how the potential 60% SW votes turns to 80 or even 90! Oh I even forgot his wife is a Pastor in RCCG and not in the Senate (free to campaign). Remi will go to mega churches - Yorubas undisputably have the biggest.... and preach every Sunday.

Bloc votes from SW and a North 50/50 or even 40% from North will win it for BAT.

Politicians do their calculations well... no matter Atiku's vice, he's very unlikely to win. That's just the reality.

Tinubu is a strong politician but I doubt anyone was sure he would soundly thrash President + Vice President + Senate President + Party Chairman. Did we really expect such a wide margin?

Politicians are like sharks, they easily smell blood in the water I.e. they quickly jump to the side of a potential winner. The APC primaries was an eye-opener for many. SS will smartly fall in line, BAT might not win there but he will do better than projected. SE will be stubborn as usual and unfortunately shout marginalization later. Unfair it might seem but true.

The main election campaigns might be physically tasking for him, but he will very likely trounce Atiku. The other candidates don't matter at all; not worth mentioning.

Tinubu can only lose if he chooses Ganduje (bad reputation) or a Northern Christian. Or Yoruba/Yoruba ticket .... grin grin


I don't usually say this to people I haven't engaged for a reasonable period, you are politically savvy and intelligent.

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Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by Buharifan: 10:31am On Jun 10, 2022
Lawlab254:
The only party getting it right for now is Labour Party.
peter obi will win by landslide on social media.
Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by Okwyjesus(m): 10:31am On Jun 10, 2022
Lawlab254:
The only party getting it right for now is Labour Party.
Power should please return north while Obi build his political empire.

He can't have all those certificates and not have top notch political strategy.
Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by telleyway: 10:32am On Jun 10, 2022
PassingShot:
I have read a lot of people saying "no to Muslim-Muslim ticket" even before Asiwaju emerged. Now that he has emerged as the standard bearer of APC with Atiku as the major challenge to him, I wonder why a Muslim-Muslim ticket of Tinubu presidency is not better than a return of the presidency to north possibly for another eight years after 8 years of PMB.

Like or loathe APC, it has demonstrated being a truly progressive party by standing with a return of the presidency to the South even after Atiku had emerged as PDP's candidate. PDP damned everything common sense by making Atiku emerge with possibility of keeping the presidency in the north and a lot of people seem not to care because PDP is doing what they need to do to win the election without considering fairness and equity.

I am strongly convinced that when the time comes, majority of voters will side with an APC' Muslim-Muslim ticket which returns presidency to the south and reject a Muslim-Christian ticket which keeps the presidency to the north for another eight years to make it 16 straight years of Northern dominance.

And who told you there's no northern Christian to be his deputy?
Like it or leave it, this country is divided along tribal and religious lines with the later having the lion share.
Neglect it and see the consequences
Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by mach7(m): 10:32am On Jun 10, 2022
SS are aligning more into mainstream politics than the SE
SecretReporter:
40% of Which SS, most of you don't even know that we SS are more closer to SE and even NC than the SW

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Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by Trente: 10:32am On Jun 10, 2022
seunmsg:
I agree completely with the OP. This choice is now before us especially southerners. We either endure power returns to the south through Tinubu or it remains in the north with Atiku.
The contest is not only between Tinubu and Atiku. They are other Southern Christians in the race.
Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by snowball11(m): 10:32am On Jun 10, 2022
haffaze777:



Every senseless thing remain Noble to mkpurumiri addict because of hatred for Omoluabigrin


Now, I'm neither Igbo nor from your extraction. But don't you as an omoluabi have same hatred for the igbos? undecided


All you so-called three major tribes of Nigeria are the problems bedeviling the country.
Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by wildernessVoice: 10:33am On Jun 10, 2022
PassingShot:
I have read a lot of people saying "no to Muslim-Muslim ticket" even before Asiwaju emerged. Now that he has emerged as the standard bearer of APC with Atiku as the major challenge to him, I wonder why a Muslim-Muslim ticket of Tinubu presidency is not better than a return of the presidency to north possibly for another eight years after 8 years of PMB.

Like or loathe APC, it has demonstrated being a truly progressive party by standing with a return of the presidency to the South even after Atiku had emerged as PDP's candidate. PDP damned everything common sense by making Atiku emerge with possibility of keeping the presidency in the north and a lot of people seem not to care because PDP is doing what they need to do to win the election without considering fairness and equity.

I am strongly convinced that when the time comes, majority of voters will side with an APC' Muslim-Muslim ticket which returns presidency to the south and reject a Muslim-Christian ticket which keeps the presidency to the north for another eight years to make it 16 straight years of Northern dominance.

Take it from me.
Even with Muslim/Muslim ticket BAT will NOT Smell Aso Villa.
History shall be repeated:
Awolowo 1963
Abiola 1993 &
BAT 2023.
In as much as the south remain divided by selfish ambition, the north shall continue to rule(God Forbid)
Have you checked the recent Northern decampees from APC to PDP in the last two weeks....?
Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by LongBig(m): 10:34am On Jun 10, 2022
PDP broke ethnicity barrier and there was no issue, same way, there won’t been an issue when APC break the religion barrier!! To be candid, the Southwest are very liberal and most of us don’t have issues with Muslim-Muslim ticket! The major point is bring power to the south and to do that we must do away with religion barrier!!
Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by VERDA: 10:34am On Jun 10, 2022
PassingShot:

I don't know any northern Christian who can sincerely get him enough votes in the north, especially the core north. Politics is about playing your best card to win.

Sometimes you guys forget you need to have a country first before winning elections, the same silly mistakes that was made as a country that has led to so much religious and ethnic mistrust and it's attendant consequences is the same mistake some of you are pushing for in the name of winning elections ...

You do not decide to marginalize a whole group of people claiming to be more enlightened than everybody and wonder why we have agitations everywhere...

When people talk, some people bring up funny arguments like the US, as if the US is as diverse as Nigeria, the overwhelming majority are whites, the overwhelming majority also subscribe to the Judeo-Christian believes.

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Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by Originality007: 10:34am On Jun 10, 2022
robinso01:
As if there is no christian northerners


the question I keep asking.

is Dogara not a Christian?
Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by Gamezi(m): 10:35am On Jun 10, 2022
Thank you…. I’m a muslim tho but i dont have problems with anyone to become president i just dont want another north to be president… peter obi asiwaju or who ever become but not another north
Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by Zion243(m): 10:35am On Jun 10, 2022
Nothing is wrong with Muslim Muslim ticket.
Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by PassingShot(m): 10:35am On Jun 10, 2022
Amumaigwe:


You are just an evil man. You lament that PDP didn't show equity and fairness in choosing a Northerner as their standard bearer, but choose to ignore the same lack of equity and fairness for SW to insist on contesting for the APC ticket instead of supporting SE. You see why I called you evil?
Only power shift to SE not South is what we should be discussing if you are really advocating equity and fairness. We can tolerate a Southern Christian of any tribe to balance the religious scale and not another Muslim after Buhari. If not, we do not mind the power going back to another Northern muslim. After all they are both Muslims but is one is healthier and less greedy than the other.
You are unnecessarily emotional and agitated. Politics doesn't work that way.

I just pointed out that PDP didn't do justice or fairness but they did what they thought would return them back to power.
Similarly, APC can pick a Muslim running mate in doing the needful to curtaile Atiku/PDP having given their ticket to the South.
Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by chizidgreat(m): 10:35am On Jun 10, 2022
We care less about all these blabbings since Labour Party is winning with a wide margin

God bless H.E, Peter Obi, the incoming President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria
Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by emilo2bad: 10:35am On Jun 10, 2022
[quote author=Zonefree post=113656498]South East or the North continues. [/quote
yes so my brother if North continue till 2031 when it is coming back to South,South East Will still not get it grin[quote author=Zonefree post=113656498]South East or the North continues. [/quote
yes so my brother if North continue till 2031 when it is coming back to South,South East Will still not get it
Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by MartinsD12(m): 10:36am On Jun 10, 2022
PassingShot:
I have read a lot of people saying "no to Muslim-Muslim ticket" even before Asiwaju emerged. Now that he has emerged as the standard bearer of APC with Atiku as the major challenge to him, I wonder why a Muslim-Muslim ticket of Tinubu presidency is not better than a return of the presidency to north possibly for another eight years after 8 years of PMB.

Like or loathe APC, it has demonstrated being a truly progressive party by standing with a return of the presidency to the South even after Atiku had emerged as PDP's candidate. PDP damned everything common sense by making Atiku emerge with possibility of keeping the presidency in the north and a lot of people seem not to care because PDP is doing what they need to do to win the election without considering fairness and equity.

I am strongly convinced that when the time comes, majority of voters will side with an APC' Muslim-Muslim ticket which returns presidency to the south and reject a Muslim-Christian ticket which keeps the presidency to the north for another eight years to make it 16 straight years of Northern dominance.
Total rubbish and garbage waste bin write up , go and form that Muslim to Muslim ticket of yours in Kano caliphate alone not in Nigeria it will happen, the last person that tried it where is he today he never became president
Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by emilo2bad: 10:36am On Jun 10, 2022
[quote author=Zonefree post=113656498]South East or the North continues. [/quote
yes so my brother if North continue till 2031 when it is coming back to South,South East Will still not get it grin[quote author=Zonefree post=113656498]South East or the North continues. [/quote

yes so my brother if North continue till 2031 when it is coming back to South,South East Will still not get it
Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by PassingShot(m): 10:36am On Jun 10, 2022
wildernessVoice:


Take it from me.
Even with Muslim/Muslim ticket BAT will NOT Smell Aso Villa.
History shall be repeated:
Awolowo 1963
Abiola 1993 &
BAT 2023.
In as much as the south remain divided by selfish ambition, the north shall continue to rule(God Forbid)
Have you checked the recent Northern decampees from APC to PDP in the two weeks....?
The man who knows tomorrow grin
Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by Bizibi(m): 10:37am On Jun 10, 2022
Permutation season on nairaland.
Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by AnanseK(m): 10:38am On Jun 10, 2022
Mjshexy:
Majority of youths want Peter Obi, please let's rescue Nigeria. The office of the citizen should wake up to this call

Peter Obi is not acceptable in the North. All igbos hate northerners. Peter Obi has demonstrated that when he was the Anambra governor. He has nothing to tell the northern youths.
Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by Mrfixitt(m): 10:38am On Jun 10, 2022
PassingShot:

I don't know any northern Christian who can sincerely get him enough votes in the north, especially the core north. Politics is about playing your best card to win.
Is Dogara not a Christian ? What about Boss Mustafa ? Look let me tell you this, Christians in Nigeria especially north central and south are so bruised already. Muslim- Muslim ticket coupled with the fact that Tinubu is frail and corrupt will eventually swing Majority of Christians to vote in peter Obi or Atiku. We dey watch
Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by Nobody: 10:38am On Jun 10, 2022
SEXONLY:
which youth dey support coward

How is Peter Obi a coward?
Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by manontree: 10:38am On Jun 10, 2022
So are you saying Tinubu cannot win with a Muslin Christian Ticket? Basically you are suggesting that if he doesn't use a Muslim VP he would lose to Atiku?
Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by jaxxy(m): 10:39am On Jun 10, 2022
Zenanted:
The problem of Nigeria is Tribalism, Religion and Ethnicity... Despite the sufferings, a yoruba would rather choose his country man over credible candidates, and Hausa would like power to remain there, and Igbo would wish they test power as its their right... In all these we still fall back into the hands of our oppressors. Can't we just do the right thing once?


Iike ur analysis. So what is the right thing?

as for igbos they are correct cos they have been unfairly denied bt thatscnot enough the candidate must be competent and widely accepted by every region and tribe which should apply for any candidate.
Re: Between A Muslim-Muslim Ticket and A Return Of Presidency to North by Freebills12: 10:39am On Jun 10, 2022
They testing the mic with Muslim /Muslim ticket, next will be North /North ticket

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